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Itunes considering unlimited downloads...RIAA considering suicide :)

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DriftGirlMarch 19, 2008
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Itunes considering unlimited downloads...RIAA considering suicide :)

Apple mulls unlimited music bundle

Published: March 18 2008 22:01 | Last updated: March 18 2008 22:01


Apple is in discussions with the big music companies about a radical new business model that would give customers free access to its entire iTunes music library in exchange for paying a premium for its iPod and iPhone devices.
The “all you can eat” model, a replica of Nokia’s “comes with music” deal with Universal Music last December, could provide the struggling recorded music industry with a much-needed fillip, and drive demand for a new generation of Apple’s hardware.

Apple would not comment on the plan, but executives familiar with the negotiations said they hinged on a dispute over the price the computer maker would be willing to pay for access to the labels’ libraries.
Nokia is understood to be offering almost $80 per handset to music industry partners, to be divided according to their share of the market. However, Apple has so far offered only about $20 per device, two executives said. “It’s who blinks first, and whether or not anyone does blink,” one executive said.
Detailed market research has shown strong appetite among consumers for deals bundling music in with the cost of the device, or in exchange for a monthly subscription, executives said.
One executive said the research had shown that consumers would pay a premium of up to $100 for unlimited access to music for the lifetime of the device, or a monthly fee of $7-$8 for a subscription model.
Apple, which is thought to make relatively little money from the iTunes store compared with its hardware sales, is also understood to be examining a subscription model.
Subscriptions would work only for its iPhone devices, where it has a monthly billing relationship with customers through the mobile phone operators offering the device, while the “comes with music” model would work with iPhones and with iPods.
The subscription models under discussion in the music industry include the provision for customers to keep up to 40 or 50 tracks a year, which they would retain even if they changed their device or their subscription lapses.
Other music groups are understood to be in talks with Nokia, which is keen to sign up as many of the major labels as possible before launching its first “comes with music” devices in the second half of this year.

Additional reporting by Kevin Allison in San Francisco
Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2008
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[B]Apple mulls unlimited music bundle[/B]
 
Published: March 18 2008 22:01 | Last updated: March 18 2008 22:01
 
 
[B][URL="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=us:AAPL"][SIZE=5][COLOR=#003399]Apple[/COLOR][/SIZE][/URL][/B] is in discussions with the big music companies about a radical new business model that would give customers free access to its entire iTunes music library in exchange for paying a premium for its iPod and iPhone devices.
The “all you can eat” model, a replica of [B][URL="http://markets.ft.com/tearsheets/performance.asp?s=fi:NOK1V"][COLOR=#003399]Nokia’s[/COLOR][/URL][/B] “comes with music” deal with Universal Music last December, could provide the struggling recorded music industry with a much-needed fillip, and drive demand for a new generation of Apple’s hardware. 
 
Apple would not comment on the plan, but executives familiar with the negotiations said they hinged on a dispute over the price the computer maker would be willing to pay for access to the labels’ libraries.
Nokia is understood to be offering almost $80 per handset to music industry partners, to be divided according to their share of the market. However, Apple has so far offered only about $20 per device, two executives said. “It’s who blinks first, and whether or not anyone does blink,” one executive said. 
Detailed market research has shown strong appetite among consumers for deals bundling music in with the cost of the device, or in exchange for a monthly subscription, executives said. 
One executive said the research had shown that consumers would pay a premium of up to $100 for unlimited access to music for the lifetime of the device, or a monthly fee of $7-$8 for a subscription model. 
Apple, which is thought to make relatively little money from the iTunes store compared with its hardware sales, is also understood to be examining a subscription model. 
Subscriptions would work only for its iPhone devices, where it has a monthly billing relationship with customers through the mobile phone operators offering the device, while the “comes with music” model would work with iPhones and with iPods. 
The subscription models under discussion in the music industry include the provision for customers to keep up to 40 or 50 tracks a year, which they would retain even if they changed their device or their subscription lapses. 
Other music groups are understood to be in talks with Nokia, which is keen to sign up as many of the major labels as possible before launching its first “comes with music” devices in the second half of this year. 
 
[I]Additional reporting by Kevin Allison in San Francisco[/I]
[URL="http://www.ft.com/servicestools/help/copyright"][COLOR=#003399]Copyright[/COLOR][/URL] The Financial Times Limited 2008
DriftGirlMarch 19, 2008
#139815
IN OTHER RIAA NEWS :biggthumpup:

Woman Sues RIAA For Racketeering, SpyingForum imageMarch 17, 2008
A lawsuit that accuses the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) of racketeering, fraud and illegal spying was revived Friday after a federal judge dismissed the case a month ago. An Oregon woman, Tanya Andersen, originally counter-sued the RIAA after she was served with notice of an RIAA lawsuit falsely alleging copyright infringement and demanding penalties. A judge tossed Anderson's first case, but her amended lawsuit, filed Friday in Oregon U.S. District Court, seeks to represent thousands of people in a class-action suit as attorneys claim they have been wrongly targeted for music piracy by the RIAA.

The new suit claims that the RIAA and MediaSentry - the RIAA's private investigative arm that discovers file sharing by looking into peer-to-peer users' public files - "conspired to develop a massive threat and sham litigation enterprise targeting private citizens across the United States." The lawsuit also accuses the industry and MediaSentry of spying "by unlicensed, unregistered and uncertified private investigators" who "have illegally entered the hard drives of tens of thousands of private American citizens" in violation of laws "in virtually every state in the country," according to Wired.

Andersen's suit seeks class-action status to represent "those who were sued or were threatened with suit by defendants for file-sharing, downloading or other similar activities, who have not actually engaged in actual copyright infringement."
The judge said the new, amended complaint must demonstrate that the RIAA has been initiating "sham" litigation that is unsupported by any evidence. So far, there's been no ruling on whether the case can proceed or whether it can go on as a class action suit or solely represent Andersen. However, Andersen's lawyer says that if the amended complaint passes muster, the RIAA will be forced to disclose its investigative technique.

"We are going to have discovery," said attorney Lory Lybeck, according to PC World. "That's important because [the RIAA] has spent three years actively refusing to provide any discovery of any significance in the growing number of [file sharing] cases," that it is pursuing, he said. "It is very important for them to operate in secrecy because once their methodology is revealed it will be obvious they committed a crime."
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[B][SIZE=6]IN OTHER RIAA NEWS :biggthumpup:[/SIZE][/B] 
 
Woman Sues RIAA For Racketeering, Spying[IMG]http://www.fmqb.com/images/trans.gif[/IMG][B][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]March 17, 2008
[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][SIZE=2]A lawsuit that accuses the [B]Recording Industry Association of America[/B] ([B]RIAA[/B]) of racketeering, fraud and illegal spying was revived Friday after a federal judge dismissed the case a month ago. An Oregon woman, [B]Tanya Andersen[/B], originally counter-sued the RIAA after she was served with notice of an RIAA lawsuit falsely alleging copyright infringement and demanding penalties. A judge tossed Anderson's first case, but her amended lawsuit, filed Friday in Oregon U.S. District Court, seeks to represent thousands of people in a class-action suit as attorneys claim they have been wrongly targeted for music piracy by the RIAA.

The new suit claims that the RIAA and [B]MediaSentry[/B] - the RIAA's private investigative arm that discovers file sharing by looking into peer-to-peer users' public files - "conspired to develop a massive threat and sham litigation enterprise targeting private citizens across the United States." The lawsuit also accuses the industry and MediaSentry of spying "by unlicensed, unregistered and uncertified private investigators" who "have illegally entered the hard drives of tens of thousands of private American citizens" in violation of laws "in virtually every state in the country," according to [I]Wired[/I].

Andersen's suit seeks class-action status to represent "those who were sued or were threatened with suit by defendants for file-sharing, downloading or other similar activities, who have not actually engaged in actual copyright infringement." [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]The judge said the new, amended complaint must demonstrate that the RIAA has been initiating "sham" litigation that is unsupported by any evidence. So far, there's been no ruling on whether the case can proceed or whether it can go on as a class action suit or solely represent Andersen. However, Andersen's lawyer says that if the amended complaint passes muster, the RIAA will be forced to disclose its investigative technique.

[/SIZE][SIZE=2]"We are going to have discovery," said attorney [B]Lory Lybeck[/B], according to [I]PC World[/I]. "That's important because [the RIAA] has spent three years actively refusing to provide any discovery of any significance in the growing number of [file sharing] cases," that it is pursuing, he said. "It is very important for them to operate in secrecy because once their methodology is revealed it will be obvious they committed a crime."[/SIZE]
WTFMarch 19, 2008
#139852
stick it to those riaa bstards
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stick it to those riaa bstards
SikNLowMarch 21, 2008
#140568
hahahahaha how did i just know you would pop into this thread John? hahahahaha
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hahahahaha how did i just know you would pop into this thread John? hahahahaha