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Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

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pvoJuly 6, 2006
#16228

Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

Does it do anything bad to the car in short/long term?

What kind of offsets can we run on 04 LS430 once the fenders are rolled?
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Does it do anything bad to the car in short/long term?

What kind of offsets can we run on 04 LS430 once the fenders are rolled?
chrisngoJuly 6, 2006
#16248

Re: Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

Words of advice...be very careful when rolling Lexus fenders.

Chris
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Words of advice...be very careful when rolling Lexus fenders. 

Chris
AME_VIPJuly 7, 2006
#16262

Re: Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

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After the experience I had rolling my SC, I would cut/shave instead. Most Lexus' have very thick metal on the rear quarter.
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After the experience I had rolling my SC, I would cut/shave instead. Most Lexus' have very thick metal on the rear quarter.
V8_AristoJuly 7, 2006
#16267

Re: Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

Rolling fenders is not an easy task. Too much pressure on the lip might cause the outer sheet metal to buckle or bend outwards. I cut and shaved mine for the simple fact that I am not familiar with the tool and wasn't about to make my car a guinea pig.
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Rolling fenders is not an easy task. Too much pressure on the lip might cause the outer sheet metal to buckle or bend outwards. I cut and shaved mine for the simple fact that I am not familiar with the tool and wasn't about to make my car a guinea pig. 
PagongJuly 7, 2006
#16278

Re: Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

I agree, the fenders on the LS' are thick...I can only imagine that it might be thicker on the newer cars.

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I agree, the fenders on the LS' are thick...I can only imagine that it might be thicker on the newer cars.

pvoJuly 7, 2006
#16305

Re: Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

Does cut/shave have any short/long term issues? To be honest, I don't even know what the differences are.

What kind of offsets can we normally run? I'm not looking to slam my car. I currently have TEIN CS and lowered about 2 inches.
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Does cut/shave have any short/long term issues? To be honest, I don't even know what the differences are.

What kind of offsets can we normally run? I'm not looking to slam my car. I currently have TEIN CS and lowered about 2 inches.
SoCalSC4July 7, 2006
#16332

Re: Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

Definitely cut 'em. The Lexus rear fenders have square holes punched in the lip to accommodate plastic insets that accept screws that hold the arch trim on (was that confusing?). Even if you use a professional fender rolling tool, the exterior portion of the panel will begin to distort as the lip is rollied- the square holes create a relief area that causes warping as the metal moves. Ask me how I know this...
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Definitely cut 'em. The Lexus rear fenders have square holes punched in the lip to accommodate plastic insets that accept screws that hold the arch trim on (was that confusing?). Even if you use a professional fender rolling tool, the exterior portion of the panel will begin to distort as the lip is rollied- the square holes create a relief area that causes warping as the metal moves. Ask me how I know this...
antboJuly 7, 2006
#16341

Re: Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

i 2nd on everyones reply. im a victim of it. i had them fix though. biggest mistake to roll them. PLEASE CUT THEM. the quarter panels on lexus are VERY thick and strong, so i wouldnt worry to much short term or long run.
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i 2nd on everyones reply. im a victim of it. i had them fix though. biggest mistake to roll them. PLEASE CUT THEM. the quarter panels on lexus are VERY thick and strong, so i wouldnt worry to much short term or long run.
VIPeteJuly 7, 2006
#16361

Re: Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

Some Lexus's has those damn eyelids. HAHA sucks.... CUT THEM!!
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Some Lexus's has those damn eyelids. HAHA sucks.... CUT THEM!!
pvoJuly 7, 2006
#16375

Re: Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

Does any of you happen to know a good place to do this in Mass? I have been asking around but no luck.

Thanks for your help everyone
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Does any of you happen to know a good place to do this in Mass? I have been asking around but no luck.

Thanks for your help everyone
PagongJuly 8, 2006
#16422

Re: Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

An experienced autobody guy can do it...just make sure you tell them exactly what you want done.
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An experienced autobody guy can do it...just make sure you tell them exactly what you want done.
lexkostJuly 13, 2006
#17010

Re: Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

pvo wrote:
Does any of you happen to know a good place to do this in Mass?  I have been asking around but no luck.

Thanks for your help everyone


The safest way on a LS is to cut the lip into 2" sections then roll them up , then coat them with duct sealer or undercoating.............If you were in socal I would do it for free...
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Does any of you happen to know a good place to do this in Mass?  I have been asking around but no luck.

Thanks for your help everyone
[/quote]

The safest way on a LS is to cut the lip into 2" sections then roll them up , then coat them with duct sealer or undercoating.............If you were in socal I would do it for free...
PagongJuly 13, 2006
#17017

Re: Roll Fender for Lexus LS430

lexkost wrote:
The safest way on a LS is to cut the lip into 2" sections then roll them up , then coat them with duct sealer or undercoating.............If you were in socal I would do it for free...


ofcourse >:( ;)
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The safest way on a LS is to cut the lip into 2" sections then roll them up , then coat them with duct sealer or undercoating.............If you were in socal I would do it for free...
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ofcourse >:(  ;)
DLEJuly 9, 2007
#72210
do you guys shave the front fenders also?
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do you guys shave the front fenders also?
silverbulletJuly 10, 2007
#72337
lexkost;17010 wrote:The safest way on a LS is to cut the lip into 2" sections then roll them up , then coat them with duct sealer or undercoating.............If you were in socal I would do it for free...


hey when i need that done, will you help me? i just got a 04 ls430 that i cant wait to put rims on and bag it
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[QUOTE=lexkost;17010]The safest way on a LS is to cut the lip into 2" sections then roll them up , then coat them with duct sealer or undercoating.............If you were in socal I would do it for free...[/QUOTE]

hey when i need that done, will you help me? i just got a 04 ls430 that i cant wait to put rims on and bag it
mista808July 10, 2007
#72356
shaving, long term you ask? well, if you look closely there are spot welds along the lip of the quarter panel where the inner wheel well and outer quarter panel are joined. if you shave or cut off the lip, totally cutting off the area with spot welds, you now dont have anything holding the 2 panels together anymore. sure nothing may not happen right after you cut it, maybe not a month, or 6 months, but it will buckle and separate.... then what? our cars arent made with a full frame that the body bolts to, every panel of the car helps hold the car together, why else would there he spot welds there.

if cutting the lip is what you want to do, then i would recommend after cutting you go back and weld the 2 panels back together. small welds, dress them by grinding and coat them with some anti-rust. but if you are going to be doing bodywork, you might as well roll the lip flat and bodywork the portion where the screw holes are...

before i went crazy with rolling and pulling my rears, i was f*cking around to see if i could fix that problem area where the screw holes are. after you roll the lip flat you will have a dent where the screw holes are, i placed my fender rolling tool right on that spot and forced that dent out the where there was no dent and felt perfect in comparison to the rest of the arch. then i heated the area, and the area around it, pretty hot and left it to air cool for like 30mins. came back, took the tool off and no more dent. repeat on the other dented areas. or you can heat the dented area, pull it out, and shock the metal in to that position using a cold water soaked rag.

as metal gets hot, the metal molecules expand. as it air dries, they contract to its normal state. if while its hot and the molecules are expanded and you shock it with cold water it tends to stay in that position cuz the molecules dont have time to contract....

ask me how i know....

p.s. i too would like to know whats the perfect offset for an LS430....
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shaving, long term you ask? well, if you look closely there are spot welds along the lip of the quarter panel where the inner wheel well and outer quarter panel are joined. if you shave or cut off the lip, totally cutting off the area with spot welds, you now dont have anything holding the 2 panels together anymore. sure nothing may not happen right after you cut it, maybe not a month, or 6 months, but it will buckle and separate.... then what? our cars arent made with a full frame that the body bolts to, every panel of the car helps hold the car together, why else would there he spot welds there. 

if cutting the lip  is what you want to do, then i would recommend after cutting you go back and weld the 2 panels back together. small welds, dress them by grinding and coat them with some anti-rust. but if you are going to be doing bodywork, you might as well roll the lip flat and bodywork the portion where the screw holes are...

before i went crazy with rolling and pulling my rears, i was f*cking around to see if i could fix that problem area where the screw holes are. after you roll the lip flat you will have a dent where the screw holes are, i placed my fender rolling tool right on that spot and forced that dent out the where there was no dent and felt perfect in comparison to the rest of the arch. then i heated the area, and the area around it, pretty hot and left it to air cool for like 30mins. came back, took the tool off and no more dent. repeat on the other dented areas. or you can heat the dented area, pull it out, and shock the metal in to that position using a cold water soaked rag. 

as metal gets hot, the metal molecules expand. as it air dries, they contract to its normal state. if while its hot and the molecules are expanded and you shock it with cold water it tends to stay in that position cuz the molecules dont have time to contract.... 

ask me how i know....

p.s. i too would like to know whats the perfect offset for an LS430....
SECRET SERVICE. UCF21July 11, 2007
#72578
SoCalSC4;16332 wrote:Definitely cut 'em. The Lexus rear fenders have square holes punched in the lip to accommodate plastic insets that accept screws that hold the arch trim on (was that confusing?). Even if you use a professional fender rolling tool, the exterior portion of the panel will begin to distort as the lip is rollied- the square holes create a relief area that causes warping as the metal moves. Ask me how I know this...


Happened to me.........
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[quote=SoCalSC4;16332]Definitely cut 'em. The Lexus rear fenders have square holes punched in the lip to accommodate plastic insets that accept screws that hold the arch trim on (was that confusing?). Even if you use a professional fender rolling tool, the exterior portion of the panel will begin to distort as the lip is rollied- the square holes create a relief area that causes warping as the metal moves. Ask me how I know this...[/quote]

Happened to me.........