True lip size
I always hear people mention how big their lips are and after giving the wheel specs, it doesnt make any sence. True lip is messured from the furtest point of the face of the wheel. Its considered true lip because when the wheel is spinning, you only see that much of the lip in motion. People often messure lip size between spokes. If its really a 6" lip, then you should be able to rest a 6 pack on it. :runcoold:
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I always hear people mention how big their lips are and after giving the wheel specs, it doesnt make any sence. True lip is messured from the furtest point of the face of the wheel. Its considered true lip because when the wheel is spinning, you only see that much of the lip in motion. People often messure lip size between spokes. If its really a 6" lip, then you should be able to rest a 6 pack on it. :runcoold:
Very true ... Elite Auto style has Huge ass lips on his car too ...
I have the fuller face wheel
Glad you mentioned that ... I realized my last set was cheaper lips Work Euroline s2h
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Very true ... Elite Auto style has Huge ass lips on his car too ...
I have the fuller face wheel
Glad you mentioned that ... I realized my last set was cheaper lips Work Euroline s2h
19" Work Euroline S2H
false lip
true lip of the same wheel....HUGE DIFFERANCE!
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19" Work Euroline S2H
false lip
[IMG]http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p158/racinstylez/SC300/005.jpg[/IMG]
true lip of the same wheel....HUGE DIFFERANCE!
[IMG]http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p158/racinstylez/SC300/006.jpg[/IMG]
lip is from where the face meets the... wait for it... lip! i know you want to be awesome with your hella deep "true lips", but you can't just go makin up definitions agi. =p
lip is a piece of a wheel, not a look.
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lip is from where the face meets the... wait for it... lip! i know you want to be awesome with your hella deep "true lips", but you can't just go makin up definitions agi. =p
lip is a piece of a wheel, not a look.
I actually didnt make that up LOL. There was a thread about it back in the day but im just bringing it up because some of the newbs only care about lip and I just want to educate them on what true lip size is so they can see that lip size isnt the most important thing. Some wheels with 3" true lip and a flat face look better then others with tons of fake lip.
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I actually didnt make that up LOL. There was a thread about it back in the day but im just bringing it up because some of the newbs only care about lip and I just want to educate them on what true lip size is so they can see that lip size isnt the most important thing. Some wheels with 3" true lip and a flat face look better then others with tons of fake lip.
you should post up pics of your car in the thread too agi ...
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you should post up pics of your car in the thread too agi ...
widebody_Q;185503 wrote:I actually didnt make that up LOL. There was a thread about it back in the day but im just bringing it up because some of the newbs only care about lip and I just want to educate them on what true lip size is so they can see that lip size isnt the most important thing. Some wheels with 3" true lip and a flat face look better then others with tons of fake lip.
you know i'm just messin with you homie, but i stand by what i said.
lip size means nothing. execution is everything. you guys wanna impress somebody with numbers you better swing by sesame street and holler at count von count.
hows that agi?
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[quote=widebody_Q;185503]I actually didnt make that up LOL. There was a thread about it back in the day but im just bringing it up because some of the newbs only care about lip and I just want to educate them on what true lip size is so they can see that lip size isnt the most important thing. Some wheels with 3" true lip and a flat face look better then others with tons of fake lip.[/quote]
you know i'm just messin with you homie, but i stand by what i said.
lip size means nothing. execution is everything. you guys wanna impress somebody with numbers you better swing by sesame street and holler at count von count.
[IMG]http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc188/BLACKonBLACK98/count.jpg[/IMG]
hows that agi?
havnt posted in a while but I think that def of true lip is where the face meets the lip. not where the bolts meet the lips.
DUB Style is a perfect example of facke lips. I see cars all day where it looks like they have 2.5-3 inches of lip but the face is convex and when looking at the side of wheel from a rear angle you can see the face spining close to the outer barel of the wheel.
That is more along the lines of false lip.
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havnt posted in a while but I think that def of true lip is where the face meets the lip. not where the bolts meet the lips.
DUB Style is a perfect example of facke lips. I see cars all day where it looks like they have 2.5-3 inches of lip but the face is convex and when looking at the side of wheel from a rear angle you can see the face spining close to the outer barel of the wheel.
That is more along the lines of false lip.
let's talk fact rather than opinion.
notice how the face of the front wheel extends beyond the lip of the rim? that would mean it has negative lip per agi and rich's definition. since that is physically not possible the definition is null and void.
an accepted definition of lip is "a projecting edge" and in order to measure said projection you must start from the base, e.g. mounting location of the wheel face to outer barrel.
if you want to let noobs know that lip isn't everything that's cool, but lets not make up baseless rules to justify our feelings. it will only cause confusion in the long run.
if you want to call it "perceivable lip" then that's cool too, but "true lip" is far from "true".
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let's talk fact rather than opinion.
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notice how the face of the front wheel extends beyond the lip of the rim? that would mean it has negative lip per agi and rich's definition. since that is physically not possible the definition is null and void.
an accepted definition of lip is "a projecting edge" and in order to measure said projection you must start from the base, e.g. mounting location of the wheel face to outer barrel.
if you want to let noobs know that lip isn't everything that's cool, but lets not make up baseless rules to justify our feelings. it will only cause confusion in the long run.
if you want to call it "perceivable lip" then that's cool too, but "true lip" is far from "true".
i was with agi until he ^^^^ just said that...you have a point blackonblack. couldnt have said it better..i think perceivable lip sounds more accurate.
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i was with agi until he ^^^^ just said that...you have a point blackonblack. couldnt have said it better..i think perceivable lip sounds more accurate.
First off, I agree with Agi. Second, for those who prefer not to have 70% of their lips inside of the face of the wheel, they can measure it like you do with backspacing.
https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html#wheeltrm
cardboard, laid along the face of the wheel, then measure to get an accurate measurement of how much lip there is from the face-> outter rim.
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First off, I agree with Agi. Second, for those who prefer not to have 70% of their lips inside of the face of the wheel, they can measure it like you do with backspacing.
[url]https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html#wheeltrm[/url]
cardboard, laid along the face of the wheel, then measure to get an accurate measurement of how much lip there is from the face-> outter rim.
Hahaha...life is funny!
But for real. Pseudo-lip / perceived lip / fake lip / DSL ...ok, I just threw that one in for fun..but yah, to me those are all kind of different. Reverse in spokes like RaCinStylez posted to me are not a measure of true lip..the extent of the spokes is dramatic. Sure, they're great for big brakes, but so were my VS-KF's..and they cleared my 6 piston AP's no problem..but they weren't protruding so far that the lip was only visible between the spokes. So there's actually a fine line I suppose. My VS-KF's were 10.5 -19 and gave about 6" of dish. You could see the whole dish no matter where the spokes were..so to me that was true lip. The sizing and offsets make sense as well in what the outcome of dish size would be..so that to me is more how you measure it...but there's exceptions. The Leon Vetru's I just put on my customers W211 E55 were 10 +21 which by numbers would equate to about 4" of dish...but due to the edge of the face design it only gave about 2.5" of dish. So word from the wise...if you want max dish, don't buy the Vertu's. The face covers a good 1.5" of the actual dish (you can see it in the space between the dish and face edge). My Waffe's, well, that's true dish..it's a concave full faced wheel..opposite of the crab-spoked fakies.
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Hahaha...life is funny!
But for real. Pseudo-lip / perceived lip / fake lip / DSL ...ok, I just threw that one in for fun..but yah, to me those are all kind of different. Reverse in spokes like RaCinStylez posted to me are not a measure of true lip..the extent of the spokes is dramatic. Sure, they're great for big brakes, but so were my VS-KF's..and they cleared my 6 piston AP's no problem..but they weren't protruding so far that the lip was only visible between the spokes. So there's actually a fine line I suppose. My VS-KF's were 10.5 -19 and gave about 6" of dish. You could see the whole dish no matter where the spokes were..so to me that was true lip. The sizing and offsets make sense as well in what the outcome of dish size would be..so that to me is more how you measure it...but there's exceptions. The Leon Vetru's I just put on my customers W211 E55 were 10 +21 which by numbers would equate to about 4" of dish...but due to the edge of the face design it only gave about 2.5" of dish. So word from the wise...if you want max dish, don't buy the Vertu's. The face covers a good 1.5" of the actual dish (you can see it in the space between the dish and face edge). My Waffe's, well, that's true dish..it's a concave full faced wheel..opposite of the crab-spoked fakies.
yeah its a tough one, but i can see what you mean with true lip. theres heaps of rims out here in Aus advertised as 'deep dish' but they seriously have about 1" of dish if you discount the protruding face.
i think it just comes down to newbs to wheels being aware that cheaper wheels trying to be deep dish are never going to cut it, you need to get true 2 or 3 peice wheels to acheive dish, but then again it depends on spoke and wheel design.
i think its just a fair point to consider when looking for wheels just have a think about it and consider if the wheel will actually accentuate the whole dish size it claims to have.
my old VS-XX had 5.5" dish front and 6" rear, but a little bit of it was covered by the spokes, not that much though cause they were mid front and low rear disc, but since they were gold with black bolts and the dish was super shiny it reflected on to the dish and make it look smaller!
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yeah its a tough one, but i can see what you mean with true lip. theres heaps of rims out here in Aus advertised as 'deep dish' but they seriously have about 1" of dish if you discount the protruding face.
i think it just comes down to newbs to wheels being aware that cheaper wheels trying to be deep dish are never going to cut it, you need to get true 2 or 3 peice wheels to acheive dish, but then again it depends on spoke and wheel design.
i think its just a fair point to consider when looking for wheels just have a think about it and consider if the wheel will actually accentuate the whole dish size it claims to have.
my old VS-XX had 5.5" dish front and 6" rear, but a little bit of it was covered by the spokes, not that much though cause they were mid front and low rear disc, but since they were gold with black bolts and the dish was super shiny it reflected on to the dish and make it look smaller!
I measured My Leons and the rears were around 5'' because i can put a cd in it, but since they didn't offer me custom offsets I had to go with the lowest size to fit them on my ride.. but it's standard disk which makes the face stick out more and curve out..giving me a small lip when they're rolling...
I also heard about switching out barrels if you have 3 peice wheels to have a bigger lip..??? any info on this
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I measured My Leons and the rears were around 5'' because i can put a cd in it, but since they didn't offer me custom offsets I had to go with the lowest size to fit them on my ride.. but it's standard disk which makes the face stick out more and curve out..giving me a small lip when they're rolling...
I also heard about switching out barrels if you have 3 peice wheels to have a bigger lip..??? any info on this
Bippu PxrLex;185516 wrote:you should post up pics of your car in the thread too agi ...
Nah, I didnt make this thread to ***** and besides, my lips are not that devistating anyway. The lips on my 18s are but like blackonblack98 said, its all about excecution so I went with the 19s even though the lips are smaller.
if you want to call it "perceivable lip" then that's cool too, but "true lip" is far from "true".
Call it what you want, the name isnt important. . . the message is.
For the record, I am not hating. In fact, I love the Fabulous Expands even though they give off some fake lip. Some wheel styles can pull it off.
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[quote=Bippu PxrLex;185516]you should post up pics of your car in the thread too agi ...[/quote]
Nah, I didnt make this thread to ***** and besides, my lips are not that devistating anyway. The lips on my 18s are but like blackonblack98 said, its all about excecution so I went with the 19s even though the lips are smaller.
[QUOTE]if you want to call it "perceivable lip" then that's cool too, but "true lip" is far from "true". [/QUOTE]
Call it what you want, the name isnt important. . . the message is.
For the record, I am not hating. In fact, I love the Fabulous Expands even though they give off some fake lip. Some wheel styles can pull it off.
i sense a little jealously on this thread. anyone else feel me?
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i sense a little jealously on this thread. anyone else feel me?
Lip is lip IMO, but i prefer the low disc cuz you get max barrel!
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Lip is lip IMO, but i prefer the low disc cuz you get max barrel!
step lip throws it a bit too. i think if you dont have that much dish step lip is better because it sortof breaks up the dish so your eye cant focus so much, whereas if you just had like 2" of straight lip there it wouldnt look much but with a step in it it sortof gives it a bit of 'interest' so it doesnt matter if isnt so dished .. But my point is in general it again throws off the lip size :P
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step lip throws it a bit too. i think if you dont have that much dish step lip is better because it sortof breaks up the dish so your eye cant focus so much, whereas if you just had like 2" of straight lip there it wouldnt look much but with a step in it it sortof gives it a bit of 'interest' so it doesnt matter if isnt so dished .. But my point is in general it again throws off the lip size :P
We need pics of examples.
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We need pics of examples.
I've been on both sides of the barrel. The Racing Hart J5/J8 is good example of a wheel design giving more perceived lip without lowering the offset.
On a side note its hard to clean wheels with "fake lip" Dirt, brake dust likes to build up and its hard to get in between the lip and the spokes with a wash mit.
Racing Hart J5 19x8 +45. Zero lip?? Or 2.5" lip?
AME Shallen LX 19x9 +42 Hi disc. 3" lip but you can see the face is almost flush with the flange.
AME Shallen LX 19x10 +43 Slo 4" lip
Most Weds Kranze wheels do not provide a lot of lip compared to other brands. The Rapier is an exception because of the wheel design. The face is almost flush with the rivets. 19x8.5 +28 SLo 3.5" lip!
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I've been on both sides of the barrel. The Racing Hart J5/J8 is good example of a wheel design giving more perceived lip without lowering the offset.
On a side note its hard to clean wheels with "fake lip" Dirt, brake dust likes to build up and its hard to get in between the lip and the spokes with a wash mit.
Racing Hart J5 19x8 +45. Zero lip?? Or 2.5" lip?
[img]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/UndergroundTint/141_4111.jpg[/img]
AME Shallen LX 19x9 +42 Hi disc. 3" lip but you can see the face is almost flush with the flange.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/Touring240/DSCF0356.jpg[/IMG]
AME Shallen LX 19x10 +43 Slo 4" lip
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/Touring240/19x10.jpg[/IMG]
Most Weds Kranze wheels do not provide a lot of lip compared to other brands. The Rapier is an exception because of the wheel design. The face is almost flush with the rivets. 19x8.5 +28 SLo 3.5" lip!
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/Touring240/2000%20Acura%20RL/023.jpg[/IMG]
Percieved Lip ..... Face comes out almost as far as the outer barrel Making it a higher offset wheel
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Not Percieved.....Face Is almost Flush witht the Bolts maybe about a 1/4" difference..
Rim spec 10.55 -8 SLO
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Percieved Lip ..... Face comes out almost as far as the outer barrel Making it a higher offset wheel
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Not Percieved.....Face Is almost Flush witht the Bolts maybe about a 1/4" difference..
Rim spec 10.55 -8 SLO
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vzuptnguyen;186870 wrote:i sense a little jealously on this thread. anyone else feel me?
It may look like that but its def not in my case. If the wheel is nice and it works with the car, thats cool, no one will knock you. When people brag about lip sizes and they get knocked and dont know why everyone is "hating" on them, someone can just referance this thread.
Thanks zion and AMEvip for those pics
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[quote=vzuptnguyen;186870]i sense a little jealously on this thread. anyone else feel me?[/quote]
It may look like that but its def not in my case. If the wheel is nice and it works with the car, thats cool, no one will knock you. When people brag about lip sizes and they get knocked and dont know why everyone is "hating" on them, someone can just referance this thread.
Thanks zion and AMEvip for those pics
vzuptnguyen;186870 wrote:i sense a little jealously on this thread. anyone else feel me?
nice. slick too, i don't think anybody saw what you were tryin to do there. :ugh2:
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anybody calls my lips "fake" or "cheater" i'mma hit em in the head with that mf. then they might call
me a cheater since they didn't get a fair fight, but i guarantee they won't call the lip fake. real as the big a** bump on yo head.
lol. jk.
anyways, i think we can all agree that as long as it is a quality wheel and well executed names really don't matter. i just think that calling it "fake" or "cheater" is trying to condescend when it could be just as nice or nicer than a deep disher.
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[quote=vzuptnguyen;186870]i sense a little jealously on this thread. anyone else feel me?[/quote]
nice. slick too, i don't think anybody saw what you were tryin to do there. :ugh2:
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anybody calls my lips "fake" or "cheater" i'mma hit em in the head with that mf. then they might call [I]me[/I] a cheater since they didn't get a fair fight, but i guarantee they won't call the lip fake. real as the big a** bump on yo head.
lol. jk.
anyways, i think we can all agree that as long as it is a quality wheel and well executed names really don't matter. i just think that calling it "fake" or "cheater" is trying to condescend when it could be just as nice or nicer than a deep disher.
widebody_Q;187013 wrote:It may look like that but its def not in my case. If the wheel is nice and it works with the car, thats cool, no one will knock you. When people brag about lip sizes and they get knocked and dont know why everyone is "hating" on them, someone can just referance this thread.
Thanks zion and AMEvip for those pics
and it wasnt directed at you agi. it was someone else. wink wink. i think they know who they are. wink wink. lol
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[QUOTE=widebody_Q;187013]It may look like that but its def not in my case. If the wheel is nice and it works with the car, thats cool, no one will knock you. When people brag about lip sizes and they get knocked and dont know why everyone is "hating" on them, someone can just referance this thread.
Thanks zion and AMEvip for those pics[/QUOTE]
and it wasnt directed at you agi. it was someone else. wink wink. i think they know who they are. wink wink. lol
BLACKonBLACK98;187016 wrote:nice. slick too, i don't think anybody saw what you were tryin to do there. :ugh2:
hey are we girls here or are we here to talk about lips and true size ( that didnt sound right)...
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[quote=BLACKonBLACK98;187016]nice. slick too, i don't think anybody saw what you were tryin to do there. :ugh2:
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hey are we girls here or are we here to talk about lips and true size ( that didnt sound right)...
Btw
talkling about lips (rims)
Have you guys Noticed the difference in the way they are shaped .. ?
some roll off like the Work eurolines ... and the weds are More drop off style ... Thought I'd Mention ... I love the way the lip came off on the weds .. but also on the Vip Modulars too
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Btw
talkling about lips (rims)
Have you guys Noticed the difference in the way they are shaped .. ?
some roll off like the Work eurolines ... and the weds are More drop off style ... Thought I'd Mention ... I love the way the lip came off on the weds .. but also on the Vip Modulars too
now this is lip...
DSLs :drool:
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now this is lip...
[IMG]http://images.smarter.com/blogs/angelina%20jolie%20lips.jpg[/IMG]
DSLs :drool:
lmao...
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lmao...
yea i hate the straight edge lip style, it looks so cheap and i always see them on those cheap 22" suv rims.
i prefer the soft rolled look much better. good point parlex!
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yea i hate the straight edge lip style, it looks so cheap and i always see them on those cheap 22" suv rims.
i prefer the soft rolled look much better. good point parlex!
Bippu PXRlex do you have a pic? I noticed that on Racinstylz 20" Kranze but I didn't realize they do this on 19" as well. My 19" Cerberus II had a rolled over lip not square.
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Bippu PXRlex do you have a pic? I noticed that on Racinstylz 20" Kranze but I didn't realize they do this on 19" as well. My 19" Cerberus II had a rolled over lip not square.
I like the square lips over the rolled over. They look wayy better on a stretched tire :idea:
these are rounded lips
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I like the square lips over the rolled over. They look wayy better on a stretched tire :idea:
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these are rounded lips
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AME_VIP;187118 wrote:Bippu PXRlex do you have a pic? I noticed that on Racinstylz 20" Kranze but I didn't realize they do this on 19" as well. My 19" Cerberus II had a rolled over lip not square.
Rounded or rolled edge. This works best when the lips are not high polished IMO.
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[quote=AME_VIP;187118]Bippu PXRlex do you have a pic? I noticed that on Racinstylz 20" Kranze but I didn't realize they do this on 19" as well. My 19" Cerberus II had a rolled over lip not square.[/quote]
Rounded or rolled edge. This works best when the lips are not high polished IMO.
[IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/aedprix/IMG_0712.jpg[/IMG]
slightly cheater lip, but then again, its still 5" not including .5" not a big fan of massive tsw cheater lips.
racinstylesz, see your lip, look at the lip of my weds, theyre slightly different. yours are rounded and boxed, where mine just completely drops off. personally dont really like the drop off/ended edges. but i had to have this freakin wheel.
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slightly cheater lip, but then again, its still 5" not including .5" not a big fan of massive tsw cheater lips.
racinstylesz, see your lip, look at the lip of my weds, theyre slightly different. yours are rounded and boxed, where mine just completely drops off. personally dont really like the drop off/ended edges. but i had to have this freakin wheel.
Those look awesome in low offsets.
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Those look awesome in low offsets.
yeah. cant wait til this one is finished. but now, im going to have to wait. unfortunately no more funds to finish for HIN AZ coming up, and full kit should be here any minute now. but yeah, these have a slight cheater lip, but the low offsets make up for the rest. wink wink.
Charley
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yeah. cant wait til this one is finished. but now, im going to have to wait. unfortunately no more funds to finish for HIN AZ coming up, and full kit should be here any minute now. but yeah, these have a slight cheater lip, but the low offsets make up for the rest. wink wink.
Charley
vzuptnguyen;187092 wrote:and it wasnt directed at you agi. it was someone else. wink wink. i think they know who they are. wink wink. lol
why don't you be a man and speak your mind or be a coward and stfu *wink wink*. don't try and walk the line. but before you talk about anybody you better have something to show besides this:
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[quote=vzuptnguyen;187092]and it wasnt directed at you agi. it was someone else. wink wink. i think they know who they are. wink wink. lol[/quote]
why don't you be a man and speak your mind or be a coward and stfu *wink wink*. don't try and walk the line. but before you talk about anybody you better have something to show besides this: [IMG]http://www.vipstylecars.com/forums/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif[/IMG]
I like my lips wet, when I wash my car
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I like my lips wet, when I wash my car
I'm saying this only once to the two parties involved.... take it further and I will hand out bans quicker than you'll run out of lip fake or real. Keep it civilized or learn how the forum is going to move on without you immediately.
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I'm saying this only once to the two parties involved.... take it further and I will hand out bans quicker than you'll run out of lip fake or real. Keep it civilized or learn how the forum is going to move on without you immediately.
i dont quite follow where this topic has gone as such. i dont think its fair to say people have 'cheated' by getting rims with not as much lip due to the face.
i thought the point was just to make people aware that just because it may say '4" lip' then that doesnt automatically mean it has 4" of bare metal lip clearing the wheel face. So that is to say, dont just try to go for the most lip measurement when comparing wheels that are different makes and designs because you may end up with not as much "true lip" (for lack of another term) as you had expected.
That isnt to say wheels that have some lip covered by spoke are crap, unless they truly are crappy wheels *trying* to fake it e.g. those TSWs in my opinion...
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i dont quite follow where this topic has gone as such. i dont think its fair to say people have 'cheated' by getting rims with not as much lip due to the face.
i thought the point was just to make people aware that just because it may say '4" lip' then that doesnt automatically mean it has 4" of bare metal lip clearing the wheel face. So that is to say, dont just try to go for the most lip measurement when comparing wheels that are different makes and designs because you may end up with not as much "true lip" (for lack of another term) as you had expected.
That isnt to say wheels that have some lip covered by spoke are crap, unless they truly are crappy wheels *trying* to fake it e.g. those TSWs in my opinion...
ant_jzs160;187159 wrote:i dont quite follow where this topic has gone as such. i dont think its fair to say people have 'cheated' by getting rims with not as much lip due to the face.
i thought the point was just to make people aware that just because it may say '4" lip' then that doesnt automatically mean it has 4" of bare metal lip clearing the wheel face. So that is to say, dont just try to go for the most lip measurement when comparing wheels that are different makes and designs because you may end up with not as much "true lip" (for lack of another term) as you had expected.
That isnt to say wheels that have some lip covered by spoke are crap, unless they truly are crappy wheels *trying* to fake it e.g. those TSWs in my opinion...
Right :biggthumpup:
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[quote=ant_jzs160;187159]i dont quite follow where this topic has gone as such. i dont think its fair to say people have 'cheated' by getting rims with not as much lip due to the face.
i thought the point was just to make people aware that just because it may say '4" lip' then that doesnt automatically mean it has 4" of bare metal lip clearing the wheel face. So that is to say, dont just try to go for the most lip measurement when comparing wheels that are different makes and designs because you may end up with not as much "true lip" (for lack of another term) as you had expected.
That isnt to say wheels that have some lip covered by spoke are crap, unless they truly are crappy wheels *trying* to fake it e.g. those TSWs in my opinion...[/quote]
Right :biggthumpup:
stance > lip size
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stance > lip size
Could suck a golf ball through a garden hose...
I suppose imma cheater! I just hide it alot :yahoo_35:
Cant tell from this pic? its a giving angle lol
You never hear me brag about lip sizes, honestly I dont give a s**t about that kinda stuff. Everyone around here should know its all about
stance and fitment! Besides I wanted to do bbk in the future and I need high disk in the front to do that... so kill me :)
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Could suck a golf ball through a garden hose...
I suppose imma cheater! I just hide it alot :yahoo_35:
[IMG]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a138/Brandicus/IMG_1153.jpg[/IMG]
Cant tell from this pic? its a giving angle lol
[IMG]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a138/Brandicus/the%20sexicon/P1020166.jpg[/IMG]
You never hear me brag about lip sizes, honestly I dont give a s**t about that kinda stuff. Everyone around here should know its all about[B] stance and fitment[/B]! Besides I wanted to do bbk in the future and I need high disk in the front to do that... so kill me :)
LOL... FITMENT/ STANCE > LIP SIZE....
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LOL... FITMENT/ STANCE > LIP SIZE....
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Personally, I don't give a crap...... This thread sounds like something from grade school....:pat:
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Personally, I don't give a crap...... This thread sounds like something from grade school....:pat:
Talk about cheater lip. Royalty luxury alloys claims to have 11" lip, measuring from the front of the wheel to the back.
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Talk about cheater lip. Royalty luxury alloys claims to have 11" lip, measuring from the front of the wheel to the back.
[img]http://images.lowridermagazine.com/editorial/0805_lrmp_15_s+rims+royalty_luxury_alloy.jpg[/img]
MAX_POWERS;188210 wrote:Talk about cheater lip. Royalty luxury alloys claims to have 11" lip, measuring from the front of the wheel to the back.
LMAO!!!
I guess most AME's are cheater. They claim to have 5 inches of lip in the back.
18x10 +32 super-lo disk.
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[QUOTE=MAX_POWERS;188210]Talk about cheater lip. Royalty luxury alloys claims to have 11" lip, measuring from the front of the wheel to the back.
[img]http://images.lowridermagazine.com/editorial/0805_lrmp_15_s+rims+royalty_luxury_alloy.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
LMAO!!!
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I guess most AME's are cheater. They claim to have 5 inches of lip in the back.
18x10 +32 super-lo disk.
i dont get why it's such a big effing deal. if you got 12200000 inches of lip and it looks like crap, who cares. if you got 1 inch of shiny polished metal and it looks like you can drive keira knightley around in it, you're less accomplished cause you cant brag to the other 3 year olds about how big your lip is?
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i dont get why it's such a big effing deal. if you got 12200000 inches of lip and it looks like crap, who cares. if you got 1 inch of shiny polished metal and it looks like you can drive keira knightley around in it, you're less accomplished cause you cant brag to the other 3 year olds about how big your lip is?
Razzi;189764 wrote:i dont get why it's such a big effing deal. if you got 12200000 inches of lip and it looks like crap, who cares. if you got 1 inch of shiny polished metal and it looks like you can drive keira knightley around in it, you're less accomplished cause you cant brag to the other 3 year olds about how big your lip is?
of course..we all kno its all about size...i mean size does matter right? ahaha...cuz i mean really...i had concaved face wheels..no lip at all...i guess my car sucks hairy sweaty nuts cuz i have 0" lip.
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[quote=Razzi;189764]i dont get why it's such a big effing deal. if you got 12200000 inches of lip and it looks like crap, who cares. if you got 1 inch of shiny polished metal and it looks like you can drive keira knightley around in it, you're less accomplished cause you cant brag to the other 3 year olds about how big your lip is?[/quote]
of course..we all kno its all about size...i mean size does matter right? ahaha...cuz i mean really...i had concaved face wheels..no lip at all...i guess my car sucks hairy sweaty nuts cuz i have 0" lip.
It should be " Five inches of vip"
but wow i like how weds offers different lips and different faces
http://www.weds.co.jp/english/products/kranze/lxz.html
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It should be " Five inches of vip"
but wow i like how weds offers different lips and different faces [url]http://www.weds.co.jp/english/products/kranze/lxz.html[/url]
MAX_POWERS;188210 wrote:Talk about cheater lip. Royalty luxury alloys claims to have 11" lip, measuring from the front of the wheel to the back.
i remember seeing this wheel in the mag
they advertise it has an 11" lip
however, the widest barrel you can buy is a 10J.....
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[QUOTE=MAX_POWERS;188210]Talk about cheater lip. Royalty luxury alloys claims to have 11" lip, measuring from the front of the wheel to the back.
[img]http://images.lowridermagazine.com/editorial/0805_lrmp_15_s+rims+royalty_luxury_alloy.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
i remember seeing this wheel in the mag
they advertise it has an 11" lip
however, the widest barrel you can buy is a 10J.....
thats funny^^^^^
heres a stepped lip courtesy of my SSR MKI's
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thats funny^^^^^
heres a stepped lip courtesy of my SSR MKI's
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