Thread #14427

SG Meet and cruise

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clean9945November 13, 2008
#204593

SG Meet and cruise

Ok SG guys i know we talked about this before and since SEMA and the VIP fest are over I think it would cool to get this going. So lets start throwing out ideas. I liked the idea of meeting up and cruising old town/colorado.
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Ok SG guys i know we talked about this before and since SEMA and the VIP fest are over I think it would cool to get this going.  So lets start throwing out ideas.  I liked the idea of meeting up and cruising old town/colorado.
clean9945November 17, 2008
#205565
no one wants to do anything?
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no one wants to do anything?
EvilRBNovember 17, 2008
#205571
I'm down just gotta let me know know when and where
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I'm down just gotta let me know know when and where
clean9945November 17, 2008
#205579
^^^I knew you wanted to go now if only we could get some more people.
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^^^I knew you wanted to go now if only we could get some more people.
Platinum-VIPNovember 17, 2008
#205597
setup the day, time, and location.
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setup the day, time, and location.
clean9945November 17, 2008
#205614
I was looking at the weekend of December 6th or 7th. That gives us some time to make sure everyone is back from the Thanksgiving holiday. My work which is located in San Gabriel has a large parking lot we could meet up in for anyone that is local. We can then meet up with everyone else somewhere along colorado. Now if anyone else has any ideas on where we can go from there please through out suggestions. Im new to this set up a meet thing.
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I was looking at the weekend of December 6th or 7th.  That gives us some time to make sure everyone is back from the Thanksgiving holiday.  My work which is located in San Gabriel has a large parking lot we could meet up in for anyone that is local.  We can then meet up with everyone else somewhere along colorado.  Now if anyone else has any ideas on where we can go from there please through out suggestions.  Im new to this set up a meet thing.
esvipstyleNovember 18, 2008
#205753
we should cruise to baccalis for dinner. lolz! thats good eatin.. or noodleworld.. but it hasnt been the same since they moved.
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we should cruise to baccalis for dinner. lolz! thats good eatin.. or noodleworld.. but it hasnt been the same since they moved.
Platinum-VIPNovember 18, 2008
#205810
theres a big clublexus meet on the 7th of december ... and im attending that one.
i think it's better when meets are on saturdays.
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theres a big clublexus meet on the 7th of december ... and im attending that one.
i think it's better when meets are on saturdays.
SikNLowNovember 18, 2008
#205820
esvipstyle;205753 wrote:we should cruise to baccalis for dinner. lolz! thats good eatin.. or noodleworld.. but it hasnt been the same since they moved.



Baccalis would be dope but they have a small parking lot and we might get assed out having to park down the side street :saiyancrunks: hahahahaha maybe an afternoon cruise with dim sum? hahahahaha:giggity: :shrug:
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[quote=esvipstyle;205753]we should cruise to baccalis for dinner. lolz! thats good eatin.. or noodleworld.. but it hasnt been the same since they moved.[/quote]
 
 
Baccalis would be dope but they have a small parking lot and we might get assed out having to park down the side street :saiyancrunks: hahahahaha maybe an afternoon cruise with dim sum? hahahahaha:giggity: :shrug:
clean9945November 18, 2008
#205826
Ok so do we wanna say saturday December 6th?
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Ok so do we wanna say saturday December 6th?
SikNLowNovember 18, 2008
#205828
oooo no good for me on the 6th.... but don't let me hold you guys back if that's good for everyone else! :pat:
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oooo no good for me on the 6th.... but don't let me hold you guys back if that's good for everyone else! :pat:
esvipstyleNovember 18, 2008
#205841
dim sum eh? that sounds pretty good too
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dim sum eh? that sounds pretty good too
clean9945November 18, 2008
#205878
SikNLow;205828 wrote:oooo no good for me on the 6th.... but don't let me hold you guys back if that's good for everyone else! :pat:


Id like to try to get as many people to go so id like to find a date that works with almost everyone. Plus its not a party with out SikNLow. By the way nice to meet you at autofashion.
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[quote=SikNLow;205828]oooo no good for me on the 6th.... but don't let me hold you guys back if that's good for everyone else! :pat:[/quote]
 
Id like to try to get as many people to go so id like to find a date that works with almost everyone.  Plus its not a party with out SikNLow.  By the way nice to meet you at autofashion.
SikNLowNovember 19, 2008
#205978
hahahaahaha i was on the sippy sippy so i'm clear and not clear hahahahaha nice to meet you too... did you join us for the dancing outside the restroom door? LOL:innoutrofl2:
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hahahaahaha i was on the sippy sippy so i'm clear and not clear hahahahaha nice to meet you too... did you join us for the dancing outside the restroom door? LOL:innoutrofl2:
clean9945November 19, 2008
#206006
^^^^haha no i didnt join in but was laughing my ass off. i was the white boy with glasses and the dc hat. we chated at the beginning of the meet.
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^^^^haha no i didnt join in but was laughing my ass off.  i was the white boy with glasses and the dc hat. we chated at the beginning of the meet.
vzuptnguyenNovember 19, 2008
#206025
everything is best in OC only because we are the most centralized for all vip enthusiast. im just sayin itll be easier to get more support and involvement if it were somewhere in OC.
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everything is best in OC only because we are the most centralized for all vip enthusiast. im just sayin itll be easier to get more support and involvement if it were somewhere in OC.
m0nster986November 19, 2008
#206045
^ of course you say OC look where you live. haha

I'm down for whereevers.
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^ of course you say OC look where you live. haha

I'm down for whereevers.
clean9945November 19, 2008
#206055
Well i guess we can set up a beginning of winter socal vsc meet if thats what people want to do. I was just trying to set up a quick meet and cruise for local guys.
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Well i guess we can set up a beginning of winter socal vsc meet if thats what people want to do.  I was just trying to set up a quick meet and cruise for local guys.
EvilRBNovember 19, 2008
#206189
Well I say for this meet lets stick with a Saturday cause I have to go out that night anyway and it's easier for me if I wasn't hung over the next morning! :biggthumpup:

I'd say it would even be kool if we just met at PCC or something as long as the speed bumps aren't too big then decide where to go.

Or there is always a night meet at AU79 or something.
I'd like to see a night meet with some rolling shots of our cars!!

I could set up a club meet at my friends club if you guys are interested!
They have a huge parking lot and it perfect for a meet like this, but there would be drinking and girls and I don't know if you guys are old enough for that! :smiley-rofl::smiley-rofl:

Just a thought.......

I'll take a drive down Colorado and try to figure out a route and see what you guys think.
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Well I say for this meet lets stick with a Saturday cause I have to go out that night anyway and it's easier for me if I wasn't hung over the next morning! :biggthumpup:

I'd say it would even be kool if we just met at PCC or something as long as the speed bumps aren't too big then decide where to go. 

Or there is always a night meet at AU79 or something.
I'd like to see a night meet with some rolling shots of our cars!!

I could set up a club meet at my friends club if you guys are interested!
They have a huge parking lot and it perfect for a meet like this, but there would be drinking and girls and I don't know if you guys are old enough for that! :smiley-rofl::smiley-rofl:

Just a thought.......

I'll take a drive down Colorado and try to figure out a route and see what you guys think.
SikNLowNovember 19, 2008
#206195
Ok here's the deal...


My input!!

We all meet up at Starbucks off the 10 fwy and Flair drive at the Flair Plaza! Once we are all there we drive to Mixbowl on Indian Hill off the 10 fwy. They have ample parking, some bomb thai food, and awesome boba drinks hahahahahaha.

Everyone will be required to meet at the Flair Plaza since the point is the cruise and then lunch/meet. My 2¢ and suggestions.... :shrug:
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Ok here's the deal...
 
 
My input!!
 
We all meet up at Starbucks off the 10 fwy and Flair drive at the Flair Plaza! Once we are all there we drive to Mixbowl on Indian Hill off the 10 fwy. They have ample parking, some bomb thai food, and awesome boba drinks hahahahahaha. 
 
Everyone will be required to meet at the Flair Plaza since the point is the cruise and then lunch/meet. My 2¢ and suggestions.... :shrug:
EvilRBNovember 19, 2008
#206236
SikNLow;206195 wrote:Ok here's the deal...


My input!!

We all meet up at Starbucks off the 10 fwy and Flair drive at the Flair Plaza! Once we are all there we drive to Mixbowl on Indian Hill off the 10 fwy. They have ample parking, some bomb thai food, and awesome boba drinks hahahahahaha.

Everyone will be required to meet at the Flair Plaza since the point is the cruise and then lunch/meet. My 2¢ and suggestions.... :shrug:




Thats not San Gabriel man!!

Hence the title of the thread: S G meet and cruise!! :pat::smiley-rofl:=)

The original talk was a meet somewhere in San Gabriel/ Arcadia/ Pasadena and cruise down old Town Pasadena
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[QUOTE=SikNLow;206195]Ok here's the deal...
 
 
My input!!
 
We all meet up at Starbucks off the 10 fwy and Flair drive at the Flair Plaza! Once we are all there we drive to Mixbowl on Indian Hill off the 10 fwy. They have ample parking, some bomb thai food, and awesome boba drinks hahahahahaha. 
 
Everyone will be required to meet at the Flair Plaza since the point is the cruise and then lunch/meet. My 2¢ and suggestions.... :shrug:[/QUOTE]



Thats not San Gabriel man!!

Hence the title of the thread:[B] S G meet and cruise[/B]!! :pat::smiley-rofl:=)

The original talk was a meet somewhere in San Gabriel/ Arcadia/ Pasadena and cruise down old Town Pasadena
F.L.S.November 19, 2008
#206256
I like the idea of Thai food though!
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I like the idea of Thai food though!
clean9945November 19, 2008
#206272
EvilRB;206236 wrote:Thats not San Gabriel man!!

Hence the title of the thread: S G meet and cruise!! :pat::smiley-rofl:=)

The original talk was a meet somewhere in San Gabriel/ Arcadia/ Pasadena and cruise down old Town Pasadena


I think your idea is perfect. Since I go to PCC i know for a fact there are no speed bumps but we cant park anywhere in old town cus all the lots there have retarded speed bumps well except paseo. We could park there and then go crash the yard house. :shrug: Im gona be on colorado tonight so ill drive around and see what we can use.
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[QUOTE=EvilRB;206236]Thats not San Gabriel man!!

Hence the title of the thread:[B] S G meet and cruise[/B]!! :pat::smiley-rofl:=)

The original talk was a meet somewhere in San Gabriel/ Arcadia/ Pasadena and cruise down old Town Pasadena[/QUOTE]

I think your idea is perfect.  Since I go to PCC i know for a fact there are no speed bumps but we cant park anywhere in old town cus all the lots there have retarded speed bumps well except paseo.  We could park there and then go crash the yard house.  :shrug: Im gona be on colorado tonight so ill drive around and see what we can use.
SikNLowNovember 20, 2008
#206355
As far as I remember both the meet up spot in Rosemead and the destination spot in Pomona, are both a part of the SGV... at least that's what every county map says and every other official paperwork that mentions Pomona and Rosemead...


ok I'll let you guys continue planning the SG only meet hahahahahaha I'll stick to my all members inclusive meet and thai food!! hahahaha :smiley-rofl:
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As far as I remember both the meet up spot in Rosemead and the destination spot in Pomona, are both a part of the SGV... at least that's what every county map says and every other official paperwork that mentions Pomona and Rosemead...
 
 
ok I'll let you guys continue planning the SG only meet hahahahahaha I'll stick to my all members inclusive meet and thai food!! hahahaha :smiley-rofl:
JDMGalantNovember 20, 2008
#206435
Im always down. Like I said before...

Lets cruise Colorado in old town pasadena.

We can meet @ THE HAT (valley/garfield) to eat

Then cruise up Los Robles to Colorado and do a drive down old town.

Los Robles is a chill ride up the pass to pasadena. Single Lane, residential area. There is a little turn off for slower cars, depends on our number we can stop there for a quick shot of our cars behind eachother...unless we can get someone to drive up ahead of us and take rolling shots.

We can even do some parking garage shots on the roof of any of the lowered car friendly garages in the SGV.

Just not sure what day works for eveyone.

Pls, I LOVE pho, but after the last Pho place we went to, im iffy.

We could do Noodle Planet, always been good there...but parking...PLEASE.
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Im always down. Like I said before...

Lets cruise Colorado in old town pasadena.

We can meet @ THE HAT (valley/garfield) to eat

Then cruise up Los Robles to Colorado and do a drive down old town. 

Los Robles is a chill ride up the pass to pasadena. Single Lane, residential area. There is a little turn off for slower cars, depends on our number we can stop there for a quick shot of our cars behind eachother...unless we can get someone to drive up ahead of us and take rolling shots.

We can even do some parking garage shots on the roof of any of the lowered car friendly garages in the SGV. 

Just not sure what day works for eveyone.

Pls, I LOVE pho, but after the last Pho place we went to, im iffy. 

We could do Noodle Planet, always been good there...but parking...PLEASE.
clean9945November 20, 2008
#206474
^^^^^Im down for that.
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^^^^^Im down for that.
vzuptnguyenNovember 20, 2008
#206566
that pho place was horrible!!!
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that pho place was horrible!!!
EvilRBNovember 20, 2008
#206568
Yeah that place sucked, the service was horrible, prices were high for the amount that they served, and the food was mediocre.

I think Noodle planet is a good idea!!
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Yeah that place sucked, the service was horrible, prices were high for the amount that they served, and the food was mediocre.

I think Noodle planet is a good idea!!
ALEXTHESUS*PECTNovember 20, 2008
#206609
the hat's got good food.



what club does your homie own?
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the hat's got good food.



what club does your homie own?
EvilRBNovember 25, 2008
#207874
If your talking about what my idea was, it's called Dream in Rowland Heights.

Azusa and Gale are the cross streets, across from supirior Nissan and that ford dealerships.

it has a huge "lower car friendly" parking lot that would be perfect for a meet and we can set something up with the owners to host an event or just to get us discounts on drinks and food.

Just an Idea, if anyone wants to do something like that just let me know.
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If your talking about what my idea was, it's called Dream in Rowland Heights.

Azusa and Gale are the cross streets, across from supirior Nissan and that ford dealerships.

it has a huge "lower car friendly" parking lot that would be perfect for a meet and we can set something up with the owners to host an event or just to get us discounts on drinks and food. 

Just an Idea, if anyone wants to do something like that just let me know.
Platinum-VIPNovember 27, 2008
#208423
EvilRB;207874 wrote:If your talking about what my idea was, it's called Dream in Rowland Heights.

Azusa and Gale are the cross streets, across from supirior Nissan and that ford dealerships.

it has a huge "lower car friendly" parking lot that would be perfect for a meet and we can set something up with the owners to host an event or just to get us discounts on drinks and food.

Just an Idea, if anyone wants to do something like that just let me know.

sounds good... but isnt dream a 21 over
or am i thinking of good times?
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[quote=EvilRB;207874]If your talking about what my idea was, it's called Dream in Rowland Heights.
 
Azusa and Gale are the cross streets, across from supirior Nissan and that ford dealerships.
 
it has a huge "lower car friendly" parking lot that would be perfect for a meet and we can set something up with the owners to host an event or just to get us discounts on drinks and food. 
 
Just an Idea, if anyone wants to do something like that just let me know.[/quote]
sounds good... but isnt dream a 21 over 
or am i thinking of good times?
esvipstyleNovember 28, 2008
#208518
crazyboi;208423 wrote:sounds good... but isnt dream a 21 over
or am i thinking of good times?


dream is 21 over.. its like a bar at night...
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[QUOTE=crazyboi;208423]sounds good... but isnt dream a 21 over 
or am i thinking of good times?[/QUOTE]

dream is 21 over.. its like a bar at night...
EvilRBNovember 28, 2008
#208576
yep it's 21 and over but i can arrange a night for the little kids! :biggthumpup:

but I think this is one of those nights that we need a confirmed event to make this worth the while.
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yep it's 21 and over but i  can arrange a night for the little kids! :biggthumpup:

but I think this is one of those nights that we need a confirmed event to make this worth the while.
clean9945November 28, 2008
#208596
EvilRB;208576 wrote:yep it's 21 and over but i can arrange a night for the little kids! :biggthumpup:

but I think this is one of those nights that we need a confirmed event to make this worth the while.


ill probably be one of the only "little kids." i got 2 more years till 21.

if we can get enough confirmed i say we set it up.
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[QUOTE=EvilRB;208576]yep it's 21 and over but i  can arrange a night for the little kids! :biggthumpup:

but I think this is one of those nights that we need a confirmed event to make this worth the while.[/QUOTE]

ill probably be one of the only "little kids."  i got 2 more years till 21. 

if we can get enough confirmed i say we set it up.
VincentNovember 30, 2008
#208939
same here. 2 more years haha

but yeah, set it up. I'm down for anywhere
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same here. 2 more years haha

but yeah, set it up. I'm down for anywhere
t3chniqueDecember 1, 2008
#209048
^^^^^
what kinda car you drive bro?
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^^^^^
what kinda car you drive bro?
Platinum-VIPDecember 1, 2008
#209051
same here.. im 19 too...

but anyways... im down!
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same here.. im 19 too...
 
but anyways... im down!
JDMGalantDecember 1, 2008
#209077
Damn, im OLD. I'm 25. Dream...LMAO, met some chick that worked there when I was living in rowland hts. Never been there tho, shits in a random little spot.

Decide whats going down! We can always crash tab tuesday if were doing a rowland hts/westco meet rather then SGV
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Damn, im OLD. I'm 25. Dream...LMAO, met some chick that worked there when I was living in rowland hts. Never been there tho, shits in a random little spot.

Decide whats going down! We can always crash tab tuesday if were doing a rowland hts/westco meet rather then SGV
clean9945December 1, 2008
#209185
anyone down to crash tab tomorrow?
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anyone down to crash tab tomorrow?
EvilRBDecember 3, 2008
#209643
So whats going on with this, peoples??!!!:pat:

Well so the club thing is out for now, unless they have a 18+ night then I'll let everyone know about it.
They do a 18+ night every once in a while so I'll just get us some discounts for the people on that show up or something.

As for this cruise:

I'm still down for noodle planet or even Starbucks on valley between New Ave. & Garfield.

We could still do this on the 6th??

A night cruise down old town with rolling shots would be pretty bad ass!!:giggity:

Also can someone take pictures??=)

We need input guys!!
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So whats going on with this, peoples??!!!:pat:

Well so the club thing is out for now, unless they have a 18+ night then I'll let everyone know about it. 
They do a 18+ night every once in a while so I'll just get us some discounts for the people on that show up or something. 

As for this cruise:

I'm still down for noodle planet or even Starbucks on valley between New Ave. & Garfield.

We could still do this on the 6th??

A night cruise down old town with rolling shots would be pretty bad ass!!:giggity:

Also can someone take pictures??=)

We need input guys!!
clean9945December 3, 2008
#209743
Lets do starbucks and cruise on the 6th.
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Lets do starbucks and  cruise on the 6th.
EvilRBDecember 3, 2008
#209755
That sounds good!

maybe around 4 to 5 pm at dusk??

what do you all think??
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That sounds good! 

maybe around 4 to 5 pm at dusk??

what do you all think??
clean9945December 4, 2008
#209771
works for me
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works for me
clean9945December 5, 2008
#210256
come on guys it cant just be me and evil. people let us know if your down for tomorrow.
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come on guys it cant just be me and evil. people let us know if your down for tomorrow.
VincentDecember 5, 2008
#210385
t3chnique;209048 wrote:^^^^^
what kinda car you drive bro?


GS300


but yeah guys, i'm free tomorrow to cruise. Wheres all the socal peeps at?
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[QUOTE=t3chnique;209048]^^^^^
what kinda car you drive bro?[/QUOTE]

GS300 


but yeah guys, i'm free tomorrow to cruise. Wheres all the socal peeps at?
clean9945December 6, 2008
#210417
^^^^awesome man.
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^^^^awesome man.
EvilRBDecember 6, 2008
#210457
Yeah is it just gonna be us??!!!

People try to post if your coming or not!!

I always see cars around here it'll be nice to actually meet some local people!!
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Yeah is it just gonna be us??!!!

People try to post if your coming or not!!

I always see cars around here it'll be nice to actually meet some local people!!
W140December 6, 2008
#210489
I'd be down on another night... tomorrow is not good.
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I'd be down on another night... tomorrow is not good.
clean9945December 6, 2008
#210553
Ok for everyone who can go heres the address for the starbucks.

810 E VALLEY BLVD
ALHAMBRA, CA 91801

Lets say meet at 5pm.
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Ok for everyone who can go heres the address for the starbucks.

810 E VALLEY BLVD
ALHAMBRA, CA 91801

Lets say meet at 5pm.
JDMGalantDecember 7, 2008
#210734
who went? sorry, HAD to watch the fight.
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who went? sorry, HAD to watch the fight.
clean9945December 7, 2008
#210741
It was just me and Jeremy(EvilRB). We both had previous engagements so we just had coffee and talked cars. It was pretty chill but we where talking about making this a monthly meet for us local guys. More people need to commit next time though.
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It was just me and Jeremy(EvilRB). We both had previous engagements so we just had coffee and talked cars.  It was pretty chill but we where talking about making this a monthly meet for us local guys.  More people need to commit next time though.
phatboiDecember 7, 2008
#210791
i would say make it monthly it would be better for the 626 people to come out and maybe meet up at a place where it has food too? i know forsure the rosemead plaza is no good.... cars wont make it up the bumps unless you enter from the small street.
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i would say make it monthly it would be better for the 626 people to come out and maybe meet up at a place where it has food too? i know forsure the rosemead plaza is no good.... cars wont make it up the bumps unless you enter from the small street.
JDMGalantDecember 7, 2008
#210797
im always down, but it was fight night. couldnt ignore it.
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im always down, but it was fight night. couldnt ignore it.
rolloverboiDecember 8, 2008
#210999
There's a meet everyday at Tenju Tea House in temple city on rose mead and temple city. wide open parking lot and vip friendly driveway. It is some of our forum members and club lexus members daily hang out spot. I dont want to make it sounds so much like a meet, but for sure if any of you guys roll through at anytime of the day in that plaza, you will at least find one or two vip cars there guarantee. even at 3 - 4am sometimes we're still there hahahahahahaha lets get together guys . .
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There's a meet everyday at Tenju Tea House in temple city on rose mead and temple city. wide open parking lot and vip friendly driveway. It is some of our forum members and club lexus members daily hang out spot. I dont want to make it sounds so much like a meet, but for sure if any of you guys roll through at anytime of the day in that plaza, you will at least find one or two vip cars there guarantee. even at 3 - 4am sometimes we're still there hahahahahahaha lets get together guys . .
clean9945January 3, 2009
#217526
Ok guys me and EvilRB are going to have the meet again on Sunday Jan. 11th at 5pm.
Heres the address.

810 E VALLEY BLVD
ALHAMBRA, CA 91801

We meet at the Starbucks.
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Ok guys me and EvilRB are going to have the meet again on Sunday Jan. 11th at 5pm.  
Heres the address.

810 E VALLEY BLVD
ALHAMBRA, CA 91801

We meet at the Starbucks.
VincentJanuary 6, 2009
#218010
Cool, i'll try to make it
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Cool, i'll try to make it
W140January 6, 2009
#218057
I'll probably be there also. Who else is coming?
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I'll probably be there also.  Who else is coming?
clean9945January 6, 2009
#218062
Last time only me and evil where there, but its a cool spot. The first meets are never the best we have to workout the kinks. Thats why we want all the locals to come and help make it a great meet.
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Last time only me and evil where there, but its a cool spot.  The first meets are never the best we have to workout the kinks.  Thats why we want all the locals to come and help make it a great meet.
W140January 6, 2009
#218064
No problem, I'll try to get some of the "eastern SGV" cars to show up... we usually have a decent turnout at the Wed. night meets, hopefully some of those guys would be down to cruise out to Alhambra.
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No problem, I'll try to get some of the "eastern SGV" cars to show up... we usually have a decent turnout at the Wed. night meets, hopefully some of those guys would be down to cruise out to Alhambra.
JDMGalantJanuary 6, 2009
#218066
arg. im working 7pm - 7am that day....weak
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arg. im working 7pm - 7am that day....weak
clean9945January 6, 2009
#218172
JDMGalant;218066 wrote:arg. im working 7pm - 7am that day....weak


that sucks man..maybe i should check with you first before we plan meets haha
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[QUOTE=JDMGalant;218066]arg. im working 7pm - 7am that day....weak[/QUOTE]

that sucks man..maybe i should check with you first before we plan meets haha
esvipstyleJanuary 7, 2009
#218370
is that the starbucks on valley and garfield? theres no parking there if thats the case...
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is that the starbucks on valley and garfield? theres no parking there if thats the case...
clean9945January 7, 2009
#218442
ya it is but last time we were there there was a row of about 6 spots open. its not like theres gona be a ton of us anyway.
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ya it is but last time we were there there was a row of about 6 spots open.  its not like theres gona be a ton of us anyway.
clean9945January 9, 2009
#219006
bump for reminder
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bump for reminder
esvipstyleJanuary 13, 2009
#219765
so how was this thing?
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so how was this thing?