Thread #15052

Tying the knot????

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CamryVIPDecember 18, 2008
#213702

Tying the knot????

I figured this was a 101 question.

Can someone please explain the significance of Fusas, and the 'tuna knots to me. I like them and am considering buying one but I'd like to know what they stand for before shelling out the bucks. If they stand for/symbolize hard work or work in general then I'm definitely getting one.

thanks guys.
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I figured this was a 101 question.
 
Can someone please explain the significance of Fusas, and the 'tuna knots to me.  I like them and am considering buying one but I'd like to know what they stand for before shelling out the bucks.  If they stand for/symbolize hard work or work in general then I'm definitely getting one.
 
thanks guys.
OGDecember 18, 2008
#213712
over simplified:

fusa for luck, tsuna for protection.

it's a religious thing.
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over simplified:

fusa for luck, tsuna for protection.

it's a religious thing.
CamryVIPDecember 18, 2008
#213719
now I see why some guys have both. Well I'm the epitome of luck.lol I guess I'll get one of each
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now I see why some guys have both.  Well I'm the epitome of luck.lol  I guess I'll get one of each
CaoboyDecember 18, 2008
#213723
No you don't.

It is an item from Junction Produce, one of their cheapest. That's why everyone and their mother has one.
Most people don't even know it is a religious thing.
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No you don't. 

It is an item from Junction Produce, one of their cheapest. That's why everyone and their mother has one.
Most people don't even know it is a religious thing.
OGDecember 18, 2008
#213730
it's true that most ppl don't know the roots but most ppl just get it because it's the "vip thing to do". every time i mention vip to somebody who knows of it but isn't really into it it's "curtains, stretched tires, and that knot on the mirror". :pat:
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it's true that most ppl don't know the roots but most ppl just get it because it's the "vip thing to do". every time i mention vip to somebody who knows of it but isn't really into it it's "curtains, stretched tires, and that knot on the mirror". :pat:
phatboiDecember 18, 2008
#213745
thats nice to know i didn't know that...
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thats nice to know i didn't know that...
FranklinDecember 21, 2008
#214523
You see it a lot in movies set in feudal Japan if you look closely.
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You see it a lot in movies set in feudal Japan if you look closely.
CamryVIPDecember 22, 2008
#214590
I'm gonna go rent the last samurai to check that. Also does the color of the knot mean anything beyond what they already stand for?
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I'm gonna go rent the last samurai to check that. Also does the color of the knot mean anything beyond what they already stand for?
FranklinDecember 24, 2008
#215242
You can see the fusa knot in your face in the movie Shinobi.
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You can see the fusa knot in your face in the movie Shinobi.
elpresidenteDecember 24, 2008
#215245
I guess I have to post this again (this is the "short" version):

Hahaha, it's all about tradition and stems from several uses one of them being a long standing Festival (since the beginning of the 1700's when the feudal lord of Kishiwada, Okabe Nagayasu prayed to Shinto gods for an abundant harvest at Fushimi Inari-taisha in Kyoto). Every year in the middle of September (14th & 15th) is a large festival in Osaka called the Danjiri Matsuri.

The tsuna was used to adorn the danjiri "carts" at the entrance of the temple (what Danjirir's are made to appear like). The term is taken from the word Shimenawa (also used in Sumo to signify Yokozunas), which was a large rope hung above the entrance to shinto temples to signify a pure and sacred place (they were supposed to ward off evil spirits). Here you can see exactly what I'm referencing:
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The Fusa Knot is a tassel that originated from the traditional Danjiri festival in Osaka. The tassel's design was originally a charm that decorated the helmets of soldiers in ancient Japan and is a form of 'good luck' charm. It is more specifically a religious (specifically Shinto) symbol of abundant harvest (as used in the Danjiri Matsuri). It is likely a derivation of the buddhist 'mystic knot', which, having no end, symbolizes the infinite wisdom of buddha. Here you can see the Fusa's under the lantern on the side of the Danjiri cart (the tsuna is barely visable in this pic:
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What does the Mystic Knot symbolize? The mystic knot symbol explains that everything goes in a cycle, where there is not start and end point. It is a never ending cycle in Buddhism. The mystic knot is seen as the symbol of good tidings with minimal illnesses, problems, pain, setbacks and any sort of sufferings. It is a knot that implies smooth and easy life. Therefore it is also the magical lucky knot in Feng shui.

Hope this helps...
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I guess I have to post this again (this is the "short" version):

Hahaha, it's all about tradition and stems from several uses one of them being a long standing Festival (since the beginning of the 1700's when the feudal lord of Kishiwada, Okabe Nagayasu prayed to Shinto gods for an abundant harvest at Fushimi Inari-taisha in Kyoto).  Every year in the middle of September (14th & 15th) is a large festival in Osaka called the Danjiri Matsuri.

The tsuna was used to adorn the danjiri "carts" at the entrance of the temple (what Danjirir's are made to appear like).  The term is taken from the word Shimenawa (also used in Sumo to signify Yokozunas), which was a large rope hung above the entrance to shinto temples to signify a pure and sacred place (they were supposed to ward off evil spirits).  Here you can see exactly what I'm referencing:
[img]http://www.asiarice.org/images/Shimenawa%202%20big.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.vipemporium.com/vsc/danjirifloat.jpg[/img]


The Fusa Knot is a tassel that originated from the traditional Danjiri festival in Osaka. The tassel's design was originally a charm that decorated the helmets of soldiers in ancient Japan and is a form of 'good luck' charm. It is more specifically a religious (specifically Shinto) symbol of abundant harvest (as used in the Danjiri Matsuri). It is likely a derivation of the buddhist 'mystic knot', which, having no end, symbolizes the infinite wisdom of buddha.  Here you can see the Fusa's under the lantern on the side of the Danjiri cart (the tsuna is barely visable in this pic:
[img]http://www.vipemporium.com/vsc/danjirifloat2.jpg[/img]


What does the Mystic Knot symbolize? The mystic knot symbol explains that everything goes in a cycle, where there is not start and end point. It is a never ending cycle in Buddhism. The mystic knot is seen as the symbol of good tidings with minimal illnesses, problems, pain, setbacks and any sort of sufferings. It is a knot that implies smooth and easy life. Therefore it is also the magical lucky knot in Feng shui.

Hope this helps...
aristo93December 24, 2008
#215252
^^^^ Damm that one's bigger than Freddie's in the LS! lol
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^^^^ Damm that one's bigger than Freddie's in the LS! lol
CamryVIPDecember 24, 2008
#215273
This helps a lot. I was gonna get both but now I dunno. I think I'm just goin to get the fusa. I believe that both of these knots kinda clash with my christian religious beliefs. However if there are rappers runnin around married with their expensive "Jesus pieces" while they are screwin every other chick they come accross then why can't I have an expensive knot as a style element in my car. Two wrongs don't make a right but I'm just saying. Thanks for the knowledge fellas.
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This helps a lot. I was gonna get both but now I dunno. I think I'm just goin to get the fusa. I believe that both of these knots kinda clash with my christian religious beliefs. However if there are rappers runnin around married with their expensive "Jesus pieces" while they are screwin every other chick they come accross then why can't I have an expensive knot as a style element in my car. Two wrongs don't make a right but I'm just saying.  Thanks for the knowledge fellas.
OGDecember 25, 2008
#215460
guess you gotta ask yourself if being a follower is more important than your beliefs. honestly the people who keep the fusa/tsuna alive (as far as being a vip car modification) are the noobs who think it is a vital and affordable part of building a vip car. it's really just fried rice. look at some japanese meet pics and see how many fusas you find. you'll see more non-traditional charms and tassles than anything else.
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guess you gotta ask yourself if being a follower is more important than your beliefs. honestly the people who keep the fusa/tsuna alive (as far as being a vip car modification) are the noobs who think it is a vital and affordable part of building a vip car. it's really just fried rice. look at some japanese meet pics and see how many fusas you find. you'll see more non-traditional charms and tassles than anything else.
elpresidenteDecember 25, 2008
#215488
That's one way to look at it. But I think that's mostly other companies trying to make a buck off what appears as a lucrative "trend". Personally I appreciate the meanings and significance and run them myself. I don't feel they are "played", but i do feel people should know what they're buying and hanging in their cars. Hanging something on the rear view just to have something there to me is kind of stupid. So take into consideration the various opinions different people will have...
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That's one way to look at it.  But I think that's mostly other companies trying to make a buck off what appears as a lucrative "trend".  Personally I appreciate the meanings and significance and run them myself.  I don't feel they are "played", but i do feel people should know what they're buying and hanging in their cars.  Hanging something on the rear view just to have something there to me is kind of stupid.  So take into consideration the various opinions different people will have...
burgyDecember 26, 2008
#215493
^ AGreed, My girl is Buddhist so we have one in her car. I will eventualy have one in mine as well, but becaus ewe actually believe in them not because they are VIP necessities....

I actually didn't like them until I did some research and found out what they stood for
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^ AGreed, My girl is Buddhist so we have one in her car.  I will eventualy have one in mine as well, but becaus ewe actually believe in them not because they are VIP necessities....
 
I actually didn't like them until I did some research and found out what they stood for
VipDoutDecember 26, 2008
#215622
+1 ... glad the was posted for the new guys
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+1  ... glad the was posted for the new guys
vzuptnguyenDecember 28, 2008
#216047
Caoboy;213723 wrote:No you don't.

It is an item from Junction Produce, one of their cheapest. That's why everyone and their mother has one.
Most people don't even know it is a religious thing.


nah the junction produce candies are the cheapest.:biggthumpup:
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[QUOTE=Caoboy;213723]No you don't. 

It is an item from Junction Produce, one of their cheapest. That's why everyone and their mother has one.
Most people don't even know it is a religious thing.[/QUOTE]

nah the junction produce candies are the cheapest.:biggthumpup:
eazy_masDecember 29, 2008
#216223
I though it was just something cool to hang or style.

thanks for saying it a religion thingy
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I though it was just something cool to hang or style.

thanks for saying  it a religion thingy
CamryVIPDecember 29, 2008
#216242
vzuptnguyen;216047 wrote:nah the junction produce candies are the cheapest.:biggthumpup:


They make candy!!! Now I have something cool to put in my ashtray. That way my car will really look like a living room!
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[QUOTE=vzuptnguyen;216047]nah the junction produce candies are the cheapest.:biggthumpup:[/QUOTE]

They make candy!!! Now I have something cool to put in my ashtray. That way my car will really look like a living room!
CamryVIPDecember 29, 2008
#216246
BLKonBLK98;215460 wrote:guess you gotta ask yourself if being a follower is more important than your beliefs. honestly the people who keep the fusa/tsuna alive (as far as being a vip car modification) are the noobs who think it is a vital and affordable part of building a vip car. it's really just fried rice. look at some japanese meet pics and see how many fusas you find. you'll see more non-traditional charms and tassles than anything else.


Funny thing is I was thinking to myself at work the other day. It would be pretty cool to hang a maneki neko/money cat from my mirror. I know that is something that taxi drivers probably do over in the far east but I think those money cats are cool as hell. I'd want a nice decent sized lightweight ceramic one.
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[QUOTE=BLKonBLK98;215460]guess you gotta ask yourself if being a follower is more important than your beliefs. honestly the people who keep the fusa/tsuna alive (as far as being a vip car modification) are the noobs who think it is a vital and affordable part of building a vip car. it's really just fried rice. look at some japanese meet pics and see how many fusas you find. you'll see more non-traditional charms and tassles than anything else.[/QUOTE]

Funny thing is I was thinking to myself at work the other day. It would be pretty cool to hang a maneki neko/money cat from my mirror. I know that is something that taxi drivers probably do over in the far east but I think those money cats are cool as hell. I'd want a nice decent sized lightweight ceramic one.
Jay JDecember 31, 2008
#216680
I'm Buddhist I rock it :truestory:
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I'm Buddhist I rock it :truestory:
vzuptnguyenJanuary 5, 2009
#217820
i highly doubt any buys it for luck or protection as a priority lol. u can go to china town and pick up a buddha pendant for a dollar.
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i highly doubt any buys it for luck or protection as a priority lol. u can go to china town and pick up a buddha pendant for a dollar.
JOeeJanuary 8, 2009
#218509
After reading that, I'm thinking about getting them, after my shitty luck with flipping a car, having a new engine go up in flames, maybe a lil protection and luck is what i need.

also am a buddhist :biggthumpup:
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After reading that, I'm thinking about getting them, after my shitty luck with flipping a car, having a new engine go up in flames, maybe a lil protection and luck is what i need.

also am a buddhist :biggthumpup:
MaxBoost925January 12, 2009
#219535
Thanks for the simple 411 Blackonblack.

I have a genuine Buddhist bead bracelet that I got from a tea-selling monk in Beijing. He said it was blessed by a high ranking monk and he got them as gifts.

I put it around my shifter and it brings me luck/protection.

OMFG double that If I get a fusa/kintuna!
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Thanks for the simple 411 Blackonblack.

I have a genuine Buddhist bead bracelet that I got from a tea-selling monk in Beijing. He said it was blessed by a high ranking monk and he got them as gifts.

I put it around my shifter and it brings me luck/protection.

OMFG double that If I get a fusa/kintuna!
ant_jzs160April 29, 2009
#244938
i'm going to cop some burn for this most likely but i am trying to make my car appear 'stereotypically' VIP as much as i can in so far as i am getting some VIP 'calling card' items such as Curtains, Neck Pillows, and now maybe the Fusa. This is mostly because here in Australia, esp Western Australia, there are no other VIP cars around really at all. there are a few nice euro's & a couple of imported LS's but thats it.

So i want to make mine as 'traditional' type VIP as i can without breaking the bank too much, especially since im putting it in a show coming up. All of these little things are so unusual in Perth too that they cause people to investigate the style, ask me about my car and why i have things etc.

Hence i thought i may grab a Fusa just to put up for shows, meets, etc, as part of the style. But i searched out this topic so i could explain correctly to people what it meant..
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i'm going to cop some burn for this most likely but i am trying to make my car appear 'stereotypically' VIP as much as i can in so far as i am getting some VIP 'calling card' items such as Curtains, Neck Pillows, and now maybe the Fusa. This is mostly because here in Australia, esp Western Australia, there are no other VIP cars around really at all. there are a few nice euro's & a couple of imported LS's but thats it.
 
So i want to make mine as 'traditional' type VIP as i can without breaking the bank too much, especially since im putting it in a show coming up. All of these little things are so unusual in Perth too that they cause people to investigate the style, ask me about my car and why i have things etc. 
 
Hence i thought i may grab a Fusa just to put up for shows, meets, etc, as part of the style. But i searched out this topic so i could explain correctly to people what it meant..
OGApril 30, 2009
#245073
nothin wrong with that.

there's a huge line between throwing some "vip accesories" into a modded vip car and throwing the same accesories into a stockish platform, meaningful or not.

thankfully i don't see the latter happening too much anymore. seems like people are trying to get slammed, wheeled, and/or kitted off the muscle these days. :biggthumpup:
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nothin wrong with that.
 
there's a huge line between throwing some "vip accesories" into a modded vip car and throwing the same accesories into a stockish platform, meaningful or not.
 
thankfully i don't see the latter happening too much anymore. seems like people are trying to get slammed, wheeled, and/or kitted off the muscle these days. :biggthumpup: