Society. Serious Talk.

Now, this is a car forum, but I wonder if anyone here is into the news beyond mainstream news...

Im talking about the topics labeled as "Conspiracy Theory"

The National ID card/imlants that are planned to be implemented.

The Signed bill that has started the ball rolling for the AMERO

The "Black" Pope

Obama wanting the ban on sale of firearms.

Obama bloodline tie to Bush and Cheney (even documented on mainstream media like NY POST)

The UN plans to use Food as weapons against us..

"False Flag" military tatics towards civilians...

I dont wanna rant on and on over random ideas in my head.

Just wanna throw out some stuff to see if im alone, or does the above mention have meaning to others here.....

I hope you don't fall for all that...that's all I have to say really.  Usually conspiracy theories are driven by 5% fact but are 95% BS.  I've been fortunate to be in a position to know some truths that there were theories against and it made me laugh that people could be so naive.  I'm not saying that you are..because there are some theories that I believe hold some water, but unfortunately I feel the majority of them do not...

I do agree, alot are just crap. 

But when you can go to GOV sites and read directly. 

Thats not a good outlook.

Please link your sources.

If I have to give links, i'll keep it to mainstream info since other sites would be brushed off as "conspiracy"

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEC4xk8tXsk[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgGEv-cdoms[/url]

[url]http://www.nypost.com/seven/10172007/news/regionalnews/dissing_cousins__obama__cheney.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=4227[/url]

[url]http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html#a29[/url]

Link for youtube from a MD:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkQ0gs-an_k[/url]

when you use youtube as a reliable source or any of those websites thats a good sign of the quality of the information you're getting...
atleaaast you could find something a bit better

^^my thoughts exactly...

well...tell me this..

We are reliant upon the internet.

If my links arent good to you, what, i gotta find a Regulation or Legal Document, read it all, highlight the hidden jargon and mail it to you.

Please.

I'll drop this.

You guys keep to the mainstream media and just brush me off as a Conspiracy Theorist.

I'll keep to my beliefs and my mind open to more then whats fed to me on TV.

I do watch youtube, read websites, and try to read books on paper about this all.

Shit might not be as big as people say, but this aint no perfect world and the people above us arent all caring about us...

can't watch youtube at work but i wear a tin-foil hat daily son.
 
i'm ready for the gov't turning on us and for zombie apocalypse/terrorist invasion/world war.
 
BRING IT ON!!!
:ughrun:

[quote=JDMGalant;219890]well...tell me this..

We are reliant upon the internet.

If my links arent good to you, what, i gotta find a Regulation or Legal Document, read it all, highlight the hidden jargon and mail it to you.

Please.

I'll drop this.

You guys keep to the mainstream media and just brush me off as a Conspiracy Theorist.

I'll keep to my beliefs and my mind open to more then whats fed to me on TV.

I do watch youtube, read websites, and try to read books on paper about this all.

Shit might not be as big as people say, but this aint no perfect world and the people above us arent all caring about us...[/quote]

yep
i want paper, not written by extremists, and i MIGHT take it into consideration barring against what i know for a fact.


dont think we are being cared about? Leave then, see how good you actually have it

i think you might like [url]www.abovetopsecret.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Yokotas13;219901]yep
i want paper, not written by extremists, and i MIGHT take it into consideration barring against what i know for a fact.


dont think we are being cared about? Leave then, see how good you actually have it[/QUOTE]

What do you KNOW as fact?

use google scholar for reputable sources

[url]http://scholar.google.com/[/url]

try it; maybe you'll see the light ;)

Wow, your links hold water like a collander.
 
Conspiracy theories, are, well, theories, and you'll never know until they are exposed as truth. That's why they stay 'theories' instead of 'law'.
 
Best you can do is arm yourself, and have a plan if something crazy goes down.

[QUOTE=Caoboy;220005]Best you can do is arm yourself, and have a plan if something crazy goes down.[/QUOTE]

hope for the best, plan for the worst.

[QUOTE=JP-LS400;219912]What do you KNOW as fact?[/QUOTE]

Things he can't tell you nor can I or anyone else who's sworn an oath not too.  It's called need to know...anyone who's held a clearance can tell you that.  Sounds like a cop out, but trust us, it's not...

[QUOTE=elpresidente;220534]Things he can't tell you nor can I or anyone else who's sworn an oath not too.  It's called need to know...anyone who's held a clearance can tell you that.  Sounds like a cop out, but trust us, it's not...[/QUOTE]

I know all about that.

I know secrets. Just trust me.

^Your country doesn't even have an army. 

Not that you guys go poking people's eyes either.

[QUOTE=Caoboy;220583]^Your country doesn't even have an army. 

Not that you guys go poking people's eyes either.[/QUOTE]

hahaha:smiley-rofl:

DUDE!! THEY GOT MOUNTIES!!!

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This thread sure brightened up my day.

I just made this
:smiley-rofl:
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LOL sorry firelizard! 
 
If you want to talk about society, why not focus on the REAL problems, not some maybe problems.
 
For example, 401(k) plans, what to do about them in this volatile market, this economy, tax breaks who people think are going to be another rebate check, and have it all wrong, stuff like that. Shit that hits home, and people still worry about it. 
 
Article on MSN read: foreclosures last year up 81%. That's some shit. 
 
The market finally had a good day:
IndexLastChange[URL="http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=$INDU"][COLOR=#07519a]Dow[/COLOR][/URL]8,212.49[COLOR=#008000]+12.35 (+0.15%)[/COLOR][URL="http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=$COMPX"][COLOR=#07519a]NASDAQ[/COLOR][/URL]1,511.83[COLOR=#008000]+22.20 (+1.49%)[/COLOR][URL="http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=$INX"][COLOR=#07519a]S&P[/COLOR][/URL]843.73[COLOR=#008000]+1.12 (+0.13%)[/COLOR]
 
 
[SIZE=2][SIZE=1]yet it's only a smidge above what yesterday's loss was, and the passed week's losses were. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=1]Let's talk about the rumors of IIRC, CA planning to give IOU's for the state tax return, or maybe that's a federal tax rumor? [/SIZE]

Yes, real world issues...

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fuck canada's army. lol 

(no offense to any canadians that get butt hurt online, its a very nice place to live, plenty of european chicks and legalized marijuana. cant get better)

Also, the war in Gaza, who knows how this will end up.
[URL]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28680490[/URL]
 
 
While this is a 'truce' or more like a temporary ceasefire, look at how Iran is taking this...they are poking coals already to start another fire...see what I mean? Tensions are too high, and no one is willing to back down.

i'll add a little insight into one of his "conspiracy theories" that sorta does pan out...
 
quick background on me... I work in the auto id technology field, meaning barcode/RFID industry. what does this mean? well that rfid chips are already in use in so many places it's amazing, and proposed uses that are being tested as we speak and being seriously pushed for making standard is the "chipping" of passports, licenses, and people, yes i said people. 
 
The reason why they started chipping pets was to see how their bodies responded to the implants when they were transmitting to a receiver in  the area and if there were any adverse effects. Then  they "chipped" staff and some other people in government and their families to be able to track them in case of "kidnappings" while this doesn't prove any type of illuminati theory it does show the 5% that is fact hahahaahahahaha

yea...lets talk about the illuminati and machavelli conspiracy.lol

I MISS TUPAC!!! =[

[quote=Caoboy;220005]Wow, your links hold water like a collander.
 
Conspiracy theories, are, well, theories, and you'll never know until they are exposed as truth. That's why they stay 'theories' instead of 'law'.
 
Best you can do is arm yourself, and have a plan if something crazy goes down.[/quote]
 
 
 
 
Hahahahaha my sentiments exactly...

[quote=vzuptnguyen;220881]yea...lets talk about the illuminati and machavelli conspiracy.lol

I MISS TUPAC!!! =[[/quote]
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I'm almost ready for Zombies...just a few pieces of hardware to go...

So what, no one wants to talk about serious stuff? LOL

im down:biggthumpup:

[quote=Caoboy;221016]So what, no one wants to talk about serious stuff? LOL[/quote]

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[QUOTE=vzuptnguyen;220807]
(no offense to any canadians that get butt hurt online, its a very nice place to live, plenty of european chicks and legalized marijuana. cant get better)[/QUOTE]

if only.

Marijuana is no more legal here (for now) than it is there. Won't be legal for some time yet, most likely.

My GF's cousin who lives in by BC said it's more 'overlooked' than it is illegal.

[QUOTE=Caoboy;221168]My GF's cousin who lives in by BC said it's more 'overlooked' than it is illegal.[/QUOTE]

That's true.

It's easier to get, carry, and use, than it is to get caught doing any of the above, unless you're a moron, or moving a lot of it.

Thats where NY gets its stuff from

All the crap your are fed through the media is all paid advertising by the illuminaties of the world......and it comes form old money and old power
 
its called NEW WORLD ORDER and its been carried over for many many many years.....
 
 
one day, this world we live in will have one power and one currency....and you will be controlled (which you are already.....you just dont realize it) 
 
...... controlled by a chip implanted also know as the mark of the beast 666 
[COLOR=orange]book of revelation. Revelation 13:16-13:17[/COLOR]
 
 
currently you are fed lie after lie....believing the terrorist exsist....Osama ....haha yeah right....what a f%#$ing front.....commmon y'all ....we can do and have so much power in this world we live in......but cant seem to find some old bearded dude....haha....
 
Osama is fixin to pass away of some type of illness.....at least thats what you will see and believe cause it will be conveyed through media......all of Bush's shena****ns will be brushed away...
 
The 911 attack was a brilliant way to #1 keep you scared of so called terrorist so the Gov can maintain controll and make a fortune on War and tax and.....oh yeah intrest they borrow from their on reserve.....yikes
and #2 ...............to straight up kill and jack saddam hussein for all the oil....(jack move)

i posted this in another forum for lulz, but who knows i could be right. :dance:
the thread was about jews being in control of the world, just to give you a context.
[QUOTE=brainneeded;9294244]in my book jews are white.

white people ruined the world.

there i put it out there.

think about it, every single major world conflict there's white people there somewhere. last hundred years? 
- middle east/iraq conflict/war on terror, obviously bush jr/sr are whiteys.
- everything in africa, white people pillaged africa for hundreds of years leaving the natives socially and economically depressed.
- look at america, white people :facepalm:
- south america, spanish people are kinda white.
- world war I & II, germans are definitely white.
- korea & vietnam, white people got involved, nuff said.
- communism, russians are white, AND the people against communism, whitey's.
- conflict diamonds, whitey's exploiting brack folk.
- slavery, whitey's exploiting all folk even their own.
[COLOR="White"]i'm being sarcastic.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

[quote=gato;221297]All the crap your are fed through the media is all paid advertising by the illuminaties of the world......and it comes form old money and old power
 
its called NEW WORLD ORDER and its been carried over for many many many years.....
 
 
one day, this world we live in will have one power and one currency....and you will be controlled (which you are already.....you just dont realize it) 
 
...... controlled by a chip implanted also know as the mark of the beast 666 
[COLOR=orange]book of revelation. Revelation 13:16-13:17[/COLOR]
 
 
currently you are fed lie after lie....believing the terrorist exsist....Osama ....haha yeah right....what a f%#$ing front.....commmon y'all ....we can do and have so much power in this world we live in......but cant seem to find some old bearded dude....haha....
 
Osama is fixin to pass away of some type of illness.....at least thats what you will see and believe cause it will be conveyed through media......all of Bush's shena****ns will be brushed away...
 
The 911 attack was a brilliant way to #1 keep you scared of so called terrorist so the Gov can maintain controll and make a fortune on War and tax and.....oh yeah intrest they borrow from their on reserve.....yikes
and #2 ...............to straight up kill and jack saddam hussein for all the oil....(jack move)[/quote]
 
 
I met a few that survived 9-11 and they all seemed to think it was an inside job.  One of them told me that thousands of Jews didn't come into work that day. HMMMMMMM:shrug:

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Thanks Tam made my day

JDM Galant.  I listen to talk radio all the time and one host in particular is always talking about conspiracy theories.

Here is my take on your Obama administration and guns.  They will NEVER disarm this society.  They can't because of the constitution's 2nd amendment.  What they will do however is tax the fuck out of the ammunition.  That is the only way they will ween(sp?) us away from our guns.  It's already happening.

All you Obama supporters that love guns...take heed.  This administration can and will do whatever it takes to take more control of your life.  All these handouts that we are accepting are in exchange for just a bit of our freedom.  The more we accept, the more we give away our freedom.

This is a youtube vid about a gun law that was enacted in TX.  Texas is prob the most gun LOVING state in the US.  It's worth a look.  Seriously...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis&feature=PlayList&p=2BF4EED638272334&playnext=1&index=27[/url]

Thank you
Chris

I'd also like to bring up, again, AZ's preparation for the secession of state from the Union:

[url]http://www.rense.com/general47/ariz.htm[/url]

Again, hope for the best, prepare for the worst. If all hell breaks loose I'm out to AZ with some guns.

not to fear my friends come hire a mercenary from me it will be worth your while in ANY situation.    

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I didn't know Cher was into guns....haha, yes I'm kidding!

I'll be in Arizona with you, but after I go to Philly first to the "arsenal".

LOL @ jews run the world. After THOUSANDS of years of persecution I think they just want to be left alone. If jew's did run the world I bet it'd be a LOT harder to get bacon which I love so very very much.

Premiertea, i'll take the one on the right with the M40A1 please. The best combat woman is one far from combat ha ha ha ... yikes.

I'm going to wendys. peace.

thousands of years,,,,my god do ur research those ashkenazi germans only lived a lie,,, why do u think there is "no peace in the middle east" because they inhabited a land that is not theirs...
 
to the OP,,,i understand from what view point u come from,,you care about the society and i do as well,,, thats why i read as much verifiable information that i can to make any kind of statements, that if need be proven i can prove,hopefully.
 
the only thing that i know that the Bush admin. has tried to enact is the "violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism prevention act" which of course would be ran by the Home. .land Sec.
 
chrisngo you made a relevant statement however you forgot to factor in that the Pa.trio.t A.C.t kinda takes away any constitutional bearing to the constitution if they feel justified to do so...there was a lot of power handed over after 9/1.1, and some people dont care, and i respect that id rather them say they dont care rather than saying someone else is lying about the truth.
 
conspiracy theories are just a way to camoflauge the truth,,, if someone is giving u too much information with a little, even tho credible, resource, it'll get debunked with the conspiracy moniker....america has a lot to learn, especially the minorites, but now how can they,,,they have their token black in office because he looks like us, we are just supposed to follow him?......like he's some sort of messiah,,,having came from no where to go where? thats a set up if i've ever seen one....
 
 
comment pleas (and please keep this intellectual id rather this topic not get closed any time soon)

IM starting a new secret society to overthrow PETA, whos in?

Wow this thread is random....

1) Conspiracy theories are fun because they do have some truth...but mostly full of crap

2)  9/11 being a hoax or staged by our Gov't is ignorant....I'm not saying our government doesn't make decision that will lead to the death of some Americans, but seriously Thousands in such a terrible act?  no, they will do it in a much more subtle way

3)  Jews do not run the world and whites did not ruin the world.....but religion is the most common factor in feuds

4)  Obama is followed blindly by the masses and it is scary.  I hope he does well and doesn't end up being what I feared in terms of his socialist ideals and middle east connections.  It's amazing how little we really know about ANYONE that we vote as our president...

5)  While foreclosure is up so high the numbers don't lie, more people own homes today than they ever have in the past.  Foreclosure rates need to continue for a while before we get back to the traditional owner to renter ratios.  Thats what happens when you give loans to unqualified buyers...there is a reason that a certain number of the population needs to rent instead of own.

its funny to talk about ob.am.a. in that way and then have a go america attitude, and usually with many bush supporters, anything against him would be unpatriotic... no one really knew of o.bam.a,,,and mccain was not a prime choice esp. because of his health condition and running mate, so the perfect candidate would be anybody else...."jews" do run the world,,,lol they own the most banks and use the religious front to maintain a covert position to continue with the lie that they are the chosen people of OLD Testament, which they arent...
 
a mofo who know the ins and outs of the C..I>.A and, also the Un.,ite,d St.a,tes has warning that it was going to happen... u can't be that stupid? (and thats not being insulting hopefully, stupidity comes from having information/knowledge and refusing to accept it/demonstrate)
 
the only way to take away a people civil liberties is to have them give them away,,,do you agree or disagree...what better way then to stage the biggest mass extinction of people in todays time(i dont care who was there,, america k.il.led those people,,to prove a couple of things, 1. that they could do it and 2. we need there security from "te.rro.ris.ts") who gets to deem what is a ter.rori.st and what isnt...i'll let u figure that out....and thats no c.onsp.irac.y the.or.em,,, research anything im saying....
 
i like this video from a guy on youtube who talks how o.bam.a is used to bring the minorities together to be the face of a.mer,ica in case of at,ta,ck that now the blacks and so forth can share the same involvement when being a.tta.cked. by another country rather then them seeing us as neutral, which we were 
thoughts?

[quote=ricky cash;223611]what better way then to stage the biggest mass extinction of people in todays time(i dont care who was there,, america k.il.led those people,,to prove a couple of things, 1. that they could do it and 2. we need there security from "te.rro.ris.ts") who gets to deem what is a ter.rori.st and what isnt...i'll let u figure that out....and thats no c.onsp.irac.y the.or.em,,, research anything im saying....
 [/quote]

Sorry, you lost me here....still no way the govt brought down the twin towers to further a political view.  There are to many ignorant people that don't even pay attention or care in this country that they could gain more power in too many other ways....and they do.

[FONT=Arial]Hey Ricky, you forgot to mispell America, they are going to get you now. [/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial]I like how people continue to use Youtube as a reference... [/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial]You are right about one thing, a right not exercised is a right lost. [/FONT]

lol i forgot

ill keep it like that tho..god dam america

[quote=burgy;223715]Sorry, you lost me here....still no way the govt brought down the twin towers to further a political view. There are to many ignorant people that don't even pay attention or care in this country that they could gain more power in too many other ways....and they do.[/quote]
hmmm...ok what new policies were immediately inacted from then on to control the public welfare....why are phone taps not illegal anymore,,,why is that the terrorist threat has been risen on countries that to anyone would seem defenseless...why are impromptu searches of ur domain not against the constitution...they can legally search your crib now fool....expected terrorist,,,any miindset against the country will be an act of terrorism and coercement into prison camps,,,not even regular prison.... who gets to deem whether someone is a terrorist or not....did you read the violent rad. and homegrown terr. prev. act that i posted up read that ish homeboy

[quote=Caoboy;221751]I'd also like to bring up, again, AZ's preparation for the secession of state from the Union:
 
[URL]http://www.rense.com/general47/ariz.htm[/URL]
 
Again, hope for the best, prepare for the worst. If all hell breaks loose I'm out to AZ with some guns.[/quote]
 
Guns from where? Do your 90k miles maintenance before you think about guns! :smiley-rofl:

[quote=ricky cash;223834]hmmm...ok what new policies were immediately inacted from then on to control the public welfare....why are phone taps not illegal anymore,,,why is that the terrorist threat has been risen on countries that to anyone would seem defenseless...why are impromptu searches of ur domain not against the constitution...they can legally search your crib now fool....expected terrorist,,,any miindset against the country will be an act of terrorism and coercement into prison camps,,,not even regular prison.... who gets to deem whether someone is a terrorist or not....did you read the violent rad. and homegrown terr. prev. act that i posted up read that ish homeboy[/quote]
Sorry, still not buying it.  the government already did all that ish without people knowing.  There is no need to kill that many people as part of a Gov't conspiracy.  Your starting to sound paranoid.  I love to questions my gov't and I don't believe the things they tell me, but I do NOT believe that our own Gov't flew planes into the pentagon and the twin towers.....

[quote=burgy;224680]Sorry, still not buying it. the government already did all that ish without people knowing. There is no need to kill that many people as part of a Gov't conspiracy. Your starting to sound paranoid. I love to questions my gov't and I don't believe the things they tell me, but I do NOT believe that our own Gov't flew planes into the pentagon and the twin towers.....[/quote]
 
it wasnt a plane to the pentagon it was a missle.

[quote=JDMGalant;219851]Now, this is a car forum, but I wonder if anyone here is into the news beyond mainstream news...
 
Im talking about the topics labeled as "Conspiracy Theory"
 
[B][COLOR=magenta]The National ID card/imlants that are planned to be implemented.[/COLOR][/B]
 
The Signed bill that has started the ball rolling for the AMERO
 
The "Black" Pope
 
Obama wanting the ban on sale of firearms.
 
Obama bloodline tie to Bush and Cheney (even documented on mainstream media like NY POST)
 
The UN plans to use Food as weapons against us..
 
"False Flag" military tatics towards civilians...
 
I dont wanna rant on and on over random ideas in my head.
 
Just wanna throw out some stuff to see if im alone, or does the above mention have meaning to others here.....[/quote]
 
My state was the test bed for this program. Got federal money to do it...and it didnt work. :pat:
 
When they first rolled it out they made it seem like it was sum "cool new ID" just for us Washington state residents who like go to Canada every weekend. They NEVER mentioned it was a National ID testing program.
 
An investigative reporter aired a piece that connected it to the federal Gov and showed the flow of money into our state as a result. 
 
hmmmm, I havent seen an ad for the "Enhanced ID" in a while now. No mention of it anywhere
 
Most people didnt buy into it and knew sumthin was fishy... our fears were confirmed when the cat was let outta the bag :sad:
 
They shouldve just been honest from the start:shrug:
 
[B][COLOR=magenta]------article---------[/COLOR][/B]
 
[LEFT]SEATTLE -- High-security driver's licenses aimed at letting U.S. citizens return from Canada without a passport could be adopted elsewhere if Washington state's experiment works, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff sai[/LEFT]
 
[LEFT]The pilot project, signed into law by Gov. Chris Gregoire and formally approved by Chertoff on Friday, calls for Washington to begin issuing new "enhanced" driver's licenses in January.
They will look much like conventional driver's licenses, but will be loaded with proof of citizenship and other information that can be easily scanned at the border.
Radio frequency ID chips and other advanced security features also would make the enhanced licenses less vulnerable to forgery. At about $40, they also would be less expensive than a $97 passport.[/LEFT]
 
[LEFT]Chertoff's endorsement of the pilot project comes as border states prepare for new federal security requirements mandating a passport for travelers -- including U.S. citizens -- who enter the country by sea or land from elsewhere in the Western Hemisphere.
That requirement is expected to take effect between early 2008 and mid-2009; a similar rule for air travelers already is in force.[/LEFT]
 
[LEFT]Washington state officials are particularly sensitive to the new rule because of the extensive tourist traffic between the state and neighboring British Columbia, home of the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver.[/LEFT]
 
[LEFT]Chertoff praised the enhanced driver's license project, and said he expects other border states to follow Washington's lead.[/LEFT]

[quote=gato;224785]it wasnt a plane to the pentagon it was a missle.[/quote]
No it WAS a plane.... [URL]http://www.conspiracyscience.com/articles/911/pentagon/[/URL]

[QUOTE=DriftGirl;224904]My state was the test bed for this program. Got federal money to do it...and it didnt work. :pat:
 
When they first rolled it out they made it seem like it was sum "cool new ID" just for us Washington state residents who like go to Canada every weekend. They NEVER mentioned it was a National ID testing program.
 
An investigative reporter aired a piece that connected it to the federal Gov and showed the flow of money into our state as a result. 
 
hmmmm, I havent seen an ad for the "Enhanced ID" in a while now. No mention of it anywhere
 
Most people didnt buy into it and knew sumthin was fishy... our fears were confirmed when the cat was let outta the bag :sad:
 
They shouldve just been honest from the start:shrug:
 
[B][COLOR=magenta]------article---------[/COLOR][/B]
 
[LEFT]SEATTLE -- High-security driver's licenses aimed at letting U.S. citizens return from Canada without a passport could be adopted elsewhere if Washington state's experiment works, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff sai[/LEFT]
 
[LEFT]The pilot project, signed into law by Gov. Chris Gregoire and formally approved by Chertoff on Friday, calls for Washington to begin issuing new "enhanced" driver's licenses in January.
They will look much like conventional driver's licenses, but will be loaded with proof of citizenship and other information that can be easily scanned at the border.
Radio frequency ID chips and other advanced security features also would make the enhanced licenses less vulnerable to forgery. At about $40, they also would be less expensive than a $97 passport.[/LEFT]
 
[LEFT]Chertoff's endorsement of the pilot project comes as border states prepare for new federal security requirements mandating a passport for travelers -- including U.S. citizens -- who enter the country by sea or land from elsewhere in the Western Hemisphere.
That requirement is expected to take effect between early 2008 and mid-2009; a similar rule for air travelers already is in force.[/LEFT]
 
[LEFT]Washington state officials are particularly sensitive to the new rule because of the extensive tourist traffic between the state and neighboring British Columbia, home of the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver.[/LEFT]
 
[LEFT]Chertoff praised the enhanced driver's license project, and said he expects other border states to follow Washington's lead.[/LEFT][/QUOTE]




New York will have these aswell, pretty soon they will be available.. same shit.. [url]http://www.co.oswego.ny.us/clerk/enhanceddriverlicense.pdf[/url]

[quote=burgy;224680]Sorry, still not buying it. the government already did all that ish without people knowing. There is no need to kill that many people as part of a Gov't conspiracy. Your starting to sound paranoid. I love to questions my gov't and I don't believe the things they tell me, but I do NOT believe that our own Gov't flew planes into the pentagon and the twin towers.....[/quote]
you don't have to buy it truth isnt for sale, its on the back shelf along with the aids formula and zionist recipes... its not up to you to say whether its true or not, eye witness accounts of events that happened can only be reflected upon by the people who experienced them and they were murdered in those buildings to set up a stronger america. fear is an awesome way of gaining interest, but to say that is like saying that america didnt send the lusitania into the midst of the war between two other countries just to force america's hand into a war that wasnt there's. (WW1) what did america have to gain upon blowing up two buildings in such a commercial city.... what didnt they... im sorry if you dont believe it but the mere truth is blatant. and to abate all those events into chance, esp. when amedica had prior warning and ample time to quench the situation, leaves me to think that u may be one of them, those that think ur best interest is in mischief and propaganda, so im sorry if u dont see it, thru poverties eyes however the destruction of the poor will be america's poverty and babylon will BURN!

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They're plotting to get me.

[quote=ricky cash;225374]you don't have to buy it truth isnt for sale, its on the back shelf along with the aids formula and zionist recipes... its not up to you to say whether its true or not, eye witness accounts of events that happened can only be reflected upon by the people who experienced them and they were murdered in those buildings to set up a stronger america. fear is an awesome way of gaining interest, but to say that is like saying that america didnt send the lusitania into the midst of the war between two other countries just to force america's hand into a war that wasnt there's. (WW1) what did america have to gain upon blowing up two buildings in such a commercial city.... what didnt they... im sorry if you dont believe it but the mere truth is blatant. and to abate all those events into chance, esp. when amedica had prior warning and ample time to quench the situation, leaves me to think that u may be one of them, those that think ur best interest is in mischief and propaganda, so im sorry if u dont see it, thru poverties eyes however the destruction of the poor will be america's poverty and babylon will BURN![/quote]

You speak as if your hearsay is TRUTH...the truth has been brought to light but people like yourself refused to believe it.....actually do the research and check their sources.  Oh well G/L

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