Thread #15619

Full Face Vs. Full Reverse

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BlitzJanuary 23, 2009
#222771

Full Face Vs. Full Reverse

I'd like to know the differences and if there is any advantages to each type. Reason I ask is because on Weds sight I was looking at the Kranze LXZ and can't really see much of a difference between the two types. TIA
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I'd like to know the differences and if there is any advantages to each type.    Reason I ask is because on Weds sight I was looking at the Kranze LXZ and can't really see much of a difference between the two types.   TIA
urmyhero4nowJanuary 23, 2009
#222780
what do you mean full face vs. full reverse? A full face is a full face. Absoloootely 1500000% full face is full face(indian voice like russell peters)

and a full reverse. Im guessing you are talking about the barrell.

that is when the lip is flat.

step lip is the other option to full reverse.

hope that clears it up for ya.
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what do you mean full face vs. full reverse? A full face is a full face. Absoloootely 1500000% full face is full face(indian voice like russell peters)
 
and a full reverse. Im guessing you are talking about the barrell.
 
that is when the lip is flat.
 
step lip is the other option to full reverse.
 
hope that clears it up for ya.
BlitzJanuary 23, 2009
#222789
maybe I got the FF and FR mixed up with something else...anyways i'm talking about these rims http://www.weds.co.jp/products/kranze/lxz.html#ch_wheel

I think the difference is one is concave and the other is flat spoked. Anyways just trying to figure out the difference specifically these rims.

Looking at the specs it seems the FR face can't support big brakes since they are all low disk. What does WS-Lo mean?
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maybe I got the FF and FR mixed up with something else...anyways i'm talking about these rims [url]http://www.weds.co.jp/products/kranze/lxz.html#ch_wheel[/url]  

I think the difference is one is concave and the other is flat spoked.   Anyways just trying to figure out the difference specifically these rims.

Looking at the specs it seems the FR face can't support big brakes since they are all low disk.    What does WS-Lo mean?
iSuxeLJanuary 23, 2009
#222790
That's definitely a reversed lip.
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That's definitely a reversed lip.
AME_VIPJanuary 24, 2009
#222909
WS-Lo is just a very low disc = more lip and very little brake clearance. Some Kranze have 3 disc choices others have 4.

FF = flat face
FR = concave

I don't think I have seen any Kranze with stepped lips. Note that the LXZ in 20s have a slightly different flange. The flange is flat with a small step instead of rolled like most wheels you see.
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WS-Lo is just a very low disc = more lip and very little brake clearance.  Some Kranze have 3 disc choices others have 4.  

FF = flat face
FR = concave

I don't think I have seen any Kranze with stepped lips.  Note that the LXZ in 20s have a slightly different flange.  The flange is flat with a small step instead of rolled like most wheels you see.
widebody_QJanuary 24, 2009
#222911
AME_VIP;222909 wrote:WS-Lo is just a very low disc = more lip and very little brake clearance. Some Kranze have 3 disc choices others have 4.

FF = flat face
FR = concave

I don't think I have seen any Kranze with stepped lips.



They are refering to the face. Your correct, FF = flat face and FR is concaved. You can run either or front and back or mix them up
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[quote=AME_VIP;222909]WS-Lo is just a very low disc = more lip and very little brake clearance. Some Kranze have 3 disc choices others have 4. 
 
FF = flat face
FR = concave
 
I don't think I have seen any Kranze with stepped lips.[/quote]
 
 
They are refering to the face.  Your correct, FF = flat face and FR is concaved.  You can run either or front and back or mix them up
BlitzJanuary 24, 2009
#222913
so does that mean you can't run the concaved ones if you have big brakes at all since they are all WS-lo or Lo. Anyways good info...thanks
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so does that mean you can't run the concaved ones if you have big brakes at all since they are all WS-lo or Lo.    Anyways good info...thanks
widebody_QJanuary 24, 2009
#222919
Thats correct but you can always run spacers if needed :shrug:

I believe Grant had FR's all around when he had those rims
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Thats correct but you can always run spacers if needed :shrug: 
 
I believe Grant had FR's all around when he had those rims
iSuxeLJanuary 24, 2009
#223020
FR for me..
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FR for me..
BlitzJanuary 26, 2009
#223541
ok cool...Flat Face vs. Flat reverse? I see how weds does it now
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ok cool...Flat Face vs. Flat reverse?   I see how weds does it now
OGJanuary 26, 2009
#223556
there is no "reverse" involved. it's a front (fr) and rear (ff, i have no idea why but i've seen it before iirc) disk. the fr is available in ws-lo/s-lo offsets to provide decent lip and brake clearance. the ff provides less brake clearance but the lo ff disk has more lip than the s-lo fr disk.

*edit - ooor... now that i remember where i have seen ff/fr (front engine/fwd, front engine/rwd) it probably has something to do with that.
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there is no "reverse" involved. it's a front (fr) and rear (ff, i have no idea why but i've seen it before iirc) disk. the fr is available in ws-lo/s-lo offsets to provide decent lip and brake clearance. the ff provides less brake clearance but the lo ff disk has more lip than the s-lo fr disk.

*edit - ooor... now that i remember where i have seen ff/fr (front engine/fwd, front engine/rwd) it probably has something to do with that.