Thread #1576
iono. found this. i have no clue if this is the real gang or not. but its hilarious [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9fLKUYfOe0[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csVUuteAJNY[/url]
Yes, that's very accurate. All those bikes are Bosozoku guys and they really are that bizarre. There's a bunch of Yankee cars in there driving by too.
what are yankees. Their cars look wack & their dance. cracks me up
lol what's with the dances? looks like they are trying to dance to the exhaust note or something...
nezumimaru wrote:
lol what's with the dances?
looks like they are trying to dance to the exhaust note or something...
[quote=nezumimaru ] lol what's with the dances? looks like they are trying to dance to the exhaust note or something... [/quote] Haha, that's exactly what they are doing. Hahahaha!! It's almost like a ritual every new years. But they also do this other times too. They have "runs" they do too. Yankee is another bizarre culture that i need to make a seperate thread for. Haha.
hahaah! I love it!
another find... Bosozoku Vs. Hiroshima Police part 1 [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8Fi03j5f-I&mode=related&search=[/url] part 2 [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH1Oi66CZms&mode=related&search=[/url]
Mostly a lurker on these forums, but spent a lot of time in Japan, speak/write the language, so I figured I would comment. The first video posted was labeled Fukushima ken, or prefecture, which is one of the areas where there are lots of Bosozoku gangs. Hiroshima is another one. There are some in the outskirts of Tokyo, like Hachioji, Toyoda. Recently though, the amount of gangs have died down, not sure why though. These guys are fun to watch, but will do New Years drives where they'll drive through cities, down the wrong side of the street, and drive down sidewalks. The guys that drive Yankee cars will provide interference against police trying to chase the bikers down. Some Bosozoku gang members will enter the yakuza gangs upon leaving school. Lots of the members that drive Yankee cars will "graduate" to VIP cars. Oftentimes that is the reason why many people in Japan relate VIP cars to yakuza and bosozoku, or zoku. Because the police in Japan are very passive and cannot bang people around like the police in the US, so they take photos of bosozoku during their "runs" through the city. I'm not 100% sure on the process, but the police somehow use these photos where they track down the kid at the house. Many of the bosozoku bikes are stolen, and they will abandon them if they are in danger of being caught. The ignition mechanism of the bike is usually tampered with. During their scheduled runs through cities, police usually setup really weak (compared to the US) road blocks, but will be successful of catching a handful of bosozoku, many times in their teens. Although there are negative perceptions against bosozoku within Japan, they are part of the culture. There have been anime about them, "Shounan Bakusouzoku," probably the most famous one. Typically bosozoku are in their teens, and will move on in life whether it be in yakuza, or a normal job. However, there was one time a few years back where they found men in their thirties returning to the bosozoku gangs for some reason. Sorry for the essay format, but that's a very short idea of bosozku.
that was great. thanks. gave us more of a idea ** just saw the other link from Nez LOL. thats just hilarious they look like the KKK
I had to stop watching ...that is just to funny..they look like a bunch of dancing monkeys..THats so funny.. Hey and we thought we were crazy over hear..thats $%#@ is crazy..
Yamato1 wrote:
Mostly a lurker on these forums, but spent a lot of time in Japan, speak/write the language, so I figured I would comment. The first video posted was labeled Fukushima ken, or prefecture, which is one of the areas where there are lots of Bosozoku gangs. Hiroshima is another one. There are some in the outskirts of Tokyo, like Hachioji, Toyoda. Recently though, the amount of gangs have died down, not sure why though. These guys are fun to watch, but will do New Years drives where they'll drive through cities, down the wrong side of the street, and drive down sidewalks. The guys that drive Yankee cars will provide interference against police trying to chase the bikers down. Some Bosozoku gang members will enter the yakuza gangs upon leaving school.
Lots of the members that drive Yankee cars will "graduate" to VIP cars. Oftentimes that is the reason why many people in Japan relate VIP cars to yakuza and bosozoku, or zoku.
Because the police in Japan are very passive and cannot bang people around like the police in the US, so they take photos of bosozoku during their "runs" through the city. I'm not 100% sure on the process, but the police somehow use these photos where they track down the kid at the house. Many of the bosozoku bikes are stolen, and they will abandon them if they are in danger of being caught. The ignition mechanism of the bike is usually tampered with. During their scheduled runs through cities, police usually setup really weak (compared to the US) road blocks, but will be successful of catching a handful of bosozoku, many times in their teens.
Although there are negative perceptions against bosozoku within Japan, they are part of the culture. There have been anime about them, "Shounan Bakusouzoku," probably the most famous one. Typically bosozoku are in their teens, and will move on in life whether it be in yakuza, or a normal job. However, there was one time a few years back where they found men in their thirties returning to the bosozoku gangs for some reason.
Sorry for the essay format, but that's a very short idea of bosozku.
[quote=Yamato1 ] Mostly a lurker on these forums, but spent a lot of time in Japan, speak/write the language, so I figured I would comment. The first video posted was labeled Fukushima ken, or prefecture, which is one of the areas where there are lots of Bosozoku gangs. Hiroshima is another one. There are some in the outskirts of Tokyo, like Hachioji, Toyoda. Recently though, the amount of gangs have died down, not sure why though. These guys are fun to watch, but will do New Years drives where they'll drive through cities, down the wrong side of the street, and drive down sidewalks. The guys that drive Yankee cars will provide interference against police trying to chase the bikers down. Some Bosozoku gang members will enter the yakuza gangs upon leaving school. Lots of the members that drive Yankee cars will "graduate" to VIP cars. Oftentimes that is the reason why many people in Japan relate VIP cars to yakuza and bosozoku, or zoku. Because the police in Japan are very passive and cannot bang people around like the police in the US, so they take photos of bosozoku during their "runs" through the city. I'm not 100% sure on the process, but the police somehow use these photos where they track down the kid at the house. Many of the bosozoku bikes are stolen, and they will abandon them if they are in danger of being caught. The ignition mechanism of the bike is usually tampered with. During their scheduled runs through cities, police usually setup really weak (compared to the US) road blocks, but will be successful of catching a handful of bosozoku, many times in their teens. Although there are negative perceptions against bosozoku within Japan, they are part of the culture. There have been anime about them, "Shounan Bakusouzoku," probably the most famous one. Typically bosozoku are in their teens, and will move on in life whether it be in yakuza, or a normal job. However, there was one time a few years back where they found men in their thirties returning to the bosozoku gangs for some reason. Sorry for the essay format, but that's a very short idea of bosozku. [/quote] Akira is also about it loosely too. Good explanation.
I have seen some footage of what the police have attempted with the Bosouzoku. When they do their runs, some Hiroshima police have set up nets across the road, when the bikes approach, they pull the net tight across the road, catching one or two bikes that are unable to stop in time. Pretty spectacular stuff, and i couldnt imagine the cops here in Australia doing that.
I've actually been at a train station in Toyoda (Tokyo) where I've seen two bosozoku bikes in the early evening driving around the train station. The passive Japanese police were chasing them around on foot. The bosozoku were swinging pipes around. Other than being able to disarm one of the guys, the cops looked kinda dorky because the bosozoku were making total fools of them. It's fun to watch, but the cops in Japan need to get just a little more aggressive, I think.
wow yamato pretty cool post... I am pretty facinated with the zoku culture I was just wondering why the Japanese cops are so passive in the videos... by the way ~ I have read some of the Shounan manga myself... it's wesome!
cops down here . would regulate. >:(
Hey nezumimaru. Just spent part of my life in Japan, studied the society in college, so I figured I'd share it with you guys. The Japanese society for some reason gets pissed when police use any kind of force. You would never ever see US police style bumper car situations in Japan. The police have cute little "koban" or mini police stations for each neighborhood, and these police patrol the surrounding areas on bicycles, foot. They also visit households yearly. It's kinda passive law enforcement through showing presence. I personally think many of the crimes are escalating in severity and the police need to step it up in Japan. I've seen footage of the police department, and they do some crazy training. It appears extremely difficult to become a motorcycle officer. Numerous rounds of figure eights, driving through tough road conditions, jumping off elevated areas, etc. There's even one division somewhere in the country where they're called the "Hayabusa-tai" or Hayabusa team that drives around in normal sportbikes, unmarked. They catch everything from speeding cars to minors on mopeds. The Japanese people go to the koban to get directions, and the police have many tasks beyond chasing around bosozoku. Many national champion Judo-ists and Kendoi-sts are actually metro police officers. These guys train six hours a day, plus are required to do some duty time. Just some information for people that are interested. ;)
Haha, we used to know where all the koban's were in the area's we'd go and slow down near them and hold the clutch in to quiet the cars. Yah, the cops are so docile, when we'd go street drifting they'd show up in a K car and just turn their lights on in the middle of the intersection and wait for us to leave. We'd hang out at Family Mart for 1/2 hour then go back. Sometimes they'b be in a crown and chase one car who would coax the cop as far from the sight as possible then lose him and come back. In the mean time all the cars just keep drifting. I miss living in Japan. The cops that patrol the Wangan are pretty hard core. Many of them in unmarked cars..always had to look for the 800 plates. I guess we just always got lucky.
I am loving it :D It makes me want to make my exhaust even louder :2funny: and just maybe bust a move behind my car. Nice videos. D.
Looks like they are raving without glow sticks. :knuppel2: :2funny:
I love the context, and the explanation of the culture. All the same, I must say that this s*** is down right sillly looking. :2funny: Anyone else remember the old Michael Douglas movie "Black Rain." I suppose that this is the cultural segment that they were trying to represent in some parts of that movie?
There is a difference between the Yakuza and the Bosozoku gangs... These are just young hoons who have alot of pent up frustration at what is, lets face it, a frustrating society... Most grow out of it and become normal kaishajins; "salarymen"
Dominik wrote:
There is a difference between the Yakuza and the Bosozoku gangs... These are just young hoons who have alot of pent up frustration at what is, lets face it, a frustrating society... Most grow out of it and become normal kaishajins; "salarymen"
[quote=Dominik ] There is a difference between the Yakuza and the Bosozoku gangs... These are just young hoons who have alot of pent up frustration at what is, lets face it, a frustrating society... Most grow out of it and become normal kaishajins; "salarymen" [/quote] The others are very serious about it, they are chimpira (wannabe Yak errand boys) and aiming for acceptance.
True, there are many who do grow out of it to become [b]kaishain[/b], or [b]shakaijin[/b]. Many do not move on to high school, although compulsory education in Japan is until middle school. However, it is common for some to enter the Yakuza ranks as a chinpira, as NG-C Klasse mentioned. A lot of the frustration Dominik mentioned can come from children of "normal" households, but oftentimes originates from children who come from broken families where there is a single parent. All this considered, it is easy for children of such backgrounds to find an understanding "family" in the bosozoku, and then the Yakuza. Such children begin bosozoku activity early on, therefore their career opportunities are often limited, in a society where going to a "brand" godaigaku is still the ultimate societal goal for the privileged. I have some former bosozoku friends who do not consider themselves Yakuza, but are linked to the faction in some way. Any person in Japan will mistake them for one too.
hmmm.. thats very interesting. good to know what we are watching. now theres a story behind it. :)
Yamato1 wrote:
Hey nezumimaru. Just spent part of my life in Japan, studied the society in college, so I figured I'd share it with you guys. The Japanese society for some reason gets pissed when police use any kind of force. You would never ever see US police style bumper car situations in Japan. The police have cute little "koban" or mini police stations for each neighborhood, and these police patrol the surrounding areas on bicycles, foot. They also visit households yearly. It's kinda passive law enforcement through showing presence. I personally think many of the crimes are escalating in severity and the police need to step it up in Japan.
I've seen footage of the police department, and they do some crazy training. It appears extremely difficult to become a motorcycle officer. Numerous rounds of figure eights, driving through tough road conditions, jumping off elevated areas, etc. There's even one division somewhere in the country where they're called the "Hayabusa-tai" or Hayabusa team that drives around in normal sportbikes, unmarked. They catch everything from speeding cars to minors on mopeds.
The Japanese people go to the koban to get directions, and the police have many tasks beyond chasing around bosozoku. Many national champion Judo-ists and Kendoi-sts are actually metro police officers. These guys train six hours a day, plus are required to do some duty time. Just some information for people that are interested. ;)
[quote=Yamato1 ] Hey nezumimaru. Just spent part of my life in Japan, studied the society in college, so I figured I'd share it with you guys. The Japanese society for some reason gets pissed when police use any kind of force. You would never ever see US police style bumper car situations in Japan. The police have cute little "koban" or mini police stations for each neighborhood, and these police patrol the surrounding areas on bicycles, foot. They also visit households yearly. It's kinda passive law enforcement through showing presence. I personally think many of the crimes are escalating in severity and the police need to step it up in Japan. I've seen footage of the police department, and they do some crazy training. It appears extremely difficult to become a motorcycle officer. Numerous rounds of figure eights, driving through tough road conditions, jumping off elevated areas, etc. There's even one division somewhere in the country where they're called the "Hayabusa-tai" or Hayabusa team that drives around in normal sportbikes, unmarked. They catch everything from speeding cars to minors on mopeds. The Japanese people go to the koban to get directions, and the police have many tasks beyond chasing around bosozoku. Many national champion Judo-ists and Kendoi-sts are actually metro police officers. These guys train six hours a day, plus are required to do some duty time. Just some information for people that are interested. ;) [/quote] IMHO i think that the japanese have a way better understanding of law enforcement because this actually forces the officers to be human and actually do services to the communities. As you said they are in neighborhoods and are used for directions a lot and stuff like that. Where as most cops in the here in the USA are just idiots with big ego's, little man syndrome, and just dont really fit the "Serve" part of serve and protect. Its more along the lines of "Protect and be an assh*le. Japanese seem to know what to let slide and be passive on and what not to. thats just from the sounds of the explanations though, i dont know how it is in more recent times in japan.
Tsuihousha wrote:
IMHO i think that the japanese have a way better understanding of law enforcement because this actually forces the officers to be human and actually do services to the communities. As you said they are in neighborhoods and are used for directions a lot and stuff like that. Where as most cops in the here in the USA are just idiots with big ego's, little man syndrome, and just dont really fit the "Serve" part of serve and protect. Its more along the lines of "Protect and be an assh*le. Japanese seem to know what to let slide and be passive on and what not to. thats just from the sounds of the explanations though, i dont know how it is in more recent times in japan.
[quote=Tsuihousha ] IMHO i think that the japanese have a way better understanding of law enforcement because this actually forces the officers to be human and actually do services to the communities. As you said they are in neighborhoods and are used for directions a lot and stuff like that. Where as most cops in the here in the USA are just idiots with big ego's, little man syndrome, and just dont really fit the "Serve" part of serve and protect. Its more along the lines of "Protect and be an assh*le. Japanese seem to know what to let slide and be passive on and what not to. thats just from the sounds of the explanations though, i dont know how it is in more recent times in japan. [/quote] hmmm..that is very true. there just trigger happy mutherf'ers