Thread #15821

ucf 30 camber question

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lash56February 4, 2009
#226037

ucf 30 camber question

does anyone know off hand how much neg. camber i can get out of the stock adjustments??

front and rear

for an 04 ls430


thanks
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does anyone know off hand how much neg. camber i can get out of the stock adjustments??

front and rear

for an 04 ls430


thanks
Platinum-VIPFebruary 4, 2009
#226042
what is your wheel spec if you dont mind me asking....
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what is your wheel spec if you dont mind me asking....
lash56February 4, 2009
#226044
rollin on stockies right now...

looking to get something in this range

20x9.5

20x10.5

both in low to 0 offset front and back
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rollin on stockies right now...

looking to get  something in this range

20x9.5

20x10.5

both in low to 0 offset front and back
Platinum-VIPFebruary 4, 2009
#226053
what kind of suspension are you running or going to run?
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what kind of suspension are you running or going to run?
sessions-usa1February 4, 2009
#226059
crazyboi;226053 wrote:what kind of suspension are you running or going to run?


his on stock air.
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[quote=crazyboi;226053]what kind of suspension are you running or going to run?[/quote]
 
his on stock air.
Platinum-VIPFebruary 4, 2009
#226061
Cant you get like 5 degrees of camber ???
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Cant you get like 5 degrees of camber ???
cellyboyFebruary 4, 2009
#226063
ucf11 rear is 4.5 degrees
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ucf11 rear is 4.5 degrees
volkgt7February 4, 2009
#226068
Camber is all relative to the position of your wheel ( how high or low your car is)
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Camber is all relative to the position of your wheel ( how high or low your car is)
VIP KINGFebruary 4, 2009
#226075
lash56;226037 wrote:does anyone know off hand how much neg. camber i can get out of the stock adjustments??

front and rear

for an 04 ls430


thanks


Ahhh... this is something I have had nothing but a nightmare to figure out.

I have done lots and lots of reading and research with my 04 LS430 UL. Here is what I have found...

Disclaimer: I claim not to know it all, but I am simply sharing what I have found to be the answers. And they do make sense, once your ride is on an alighment rack and you're scratching your head wondering where the adjustment bolts are, saying to yourself... WTF!!??

As for the front, you will find there is next to nothing as far as being able to adjust camber on our body LS series cars with stock air. (Non air LS's I can not speak for)
If you see the pics of mine (theyr're on VSC here somewhere) My ride is hammered and maxed out with neg camber.

As for the rear, good luck. To my knowledge and discovery (my buddy works for Toyota, he has a buddy at Lexus and they did the part number searches) you have to buy one of 3 different size arms from Lexus, that allow you to have a different range of neg camber. Let me stress and state, there is NO WAY to adjust neg camber on the rear.
Now, you will get neg camber when you lower the car, but there is no way to set neg camber prior to lowering the car. The front, very little if any you can pre adjust (it's actually a joke if you ask me) for neg camber, and mine is maxed out in the front prior to even lowering.

So there you have it.

Side note, once you add an aftermarket air controller, the AFS light will kick on constantly, and that my friend is fun to adjust.

Another side note, the installation of my air ride controller was completely wrong, it stated my stock Lexus air control box was behind the glove box.. it WAS NOT, it was under the driver side dash. I had to splice and run a single connection from the aftermarket wiring harness to the OEM air ride control box in order for mine to work. Again, I have an 2004 LS430 UL.

Hope any of this helps and saves you a bit of time and hair pulling, cursing and kicking. I know this much, I wish I had this info before I dove into it.
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[quote=lash56;226037]does anyone know off hand how much neg. camber i can get out of the stock adjustments??
 
front and rear
 
for an 04 ls430
 
 
thanks[/quote]
 
Ahhh... this is something I have had nothing but a nightmare to figure out.
 
I have done lots and lots of reading and research with my 04 LS430 UL. Here is what I have found...
 
Disclaimer: I claim not to know it all, but I am simply sharing what I have found to be the answers. And they do make sense, once your ride is on an alighment rack and you're scratching your head wondering where the adjustment bolts are, saying to yourself... WTF!!??
 
As for the front, you will find there is next to nothing as far as being able to adjust camber on our body LS series cars with stock air. (Non air LS's I can not speak for) 
If you see the pics of mine (theyr're on VSC here somewhere) My ride is hammered and maxed out with neg camber.
 
As for the rear, good luck. To my knowledge and discovery (my buddy works for Toyota, he has a buddy at Lexus and they did the part number searches) you have to buy one of 3 different size arms from Lexus, that allow you to have a different range of neg camber. Let me stress and state, there is NO WAY to adjust neg camber on the rear.
Now, you will get neg camber when you lower the car, but there is no way to set neg camber prior to lowering the car. The front, very little if any you can pre adjust (it's actually a joke if you ask me) for neg camber, and mine is maxed out in the front prior to even lowering.
 
So there you have it. 
 
Side note, once you add an aftermarket air controller, the AFS light will kick on constantly, and that my friend is fun to adjust.
 
Another side note, the installation of my air ride controller was completely wrong, it stated my stock Lexus air control box was behind the glove box.. it WAS NOT, it was under the driver side dash. I had to splice and run a single connection from the aftermarket wiring harness to the OEM air ride control box in order for mine to work. Again, I have an 2004 LS430 UL.
 
Hope any of this helps and saves you a bit of time and hair pulling, cursing and kicking. I know this much, I wish I had this info before I dove into it.
beangrowerFebruary 4, 2009
#226104
u can ask anis "racinstylez" cuz i believe he had this stock arms modified or something like that to pull a few degrees out of it.

I went w/ the mode/nagisa camber and toe arms. I only got 2 of the 4 arms they offered for the rear. shet ain't cheap. i have a post somewhere for the website.
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u can ask anis "racinstylez" cuz i believe he had this stock arms modified or something like that to pull a few degrees out of it.  

I went w/ the mode/nagisa camber and toe arms.  I only got 2 of the 4 arms they offered for the rear.  shet ain't cheap.  i have a post somewhere for the website.
lash56February 4, 2009
#226162
VIP KING;226075 wrote:Ahhh... this is something I have had nothing but a nightmare to figure out.

I have done lots and lots of reading and research with my 04 LS430 UL. Here is what I have found...

Disclaimer: I claim not to know it all, but I am simply sharing what I have found to be the answers. And they do make sense, once your ride is on an alighment rack and you're scratching your head wondering where the adjustment bolts are, saying to yourself... WTF!!??

As for the front, you will find there is next to nothing as far as being able to adjust camber on our body LS series cars with stock air. (Non air LS's I can not speak for)
If you see the pics of mine (theyr're on VSC here somewhere) My ride is hammered and maxed out with neg camber.

As for the rear, good luck. To my knowledge and discovery (my buddy works for Toyota, he has a buddy at Lexus and they did the part number searches) you have to buy one of 3 different size arms from Lexus, that allow you to have a different range of neg camber. Let me stress and state, there is NO WAY to adjust neg camber on the rear.
Now, you will get neg camber when you lower the car, but there is no way to set neg camber prior to lowering the car. The front, very little if any you can pre adjust (it's actually a joke if you ask me) for neg camber, and mine is maxed out in the front prior to even lowering.

So there you have it.

Side note, once you add an aftermarket air controller, the AFS light will kick on constantly, and that my friend is fun to adjust.

Another side note, the installation of my air ride controller was completely wrong, it stated my stock Lexus air control box was behind the glove box.. it WAS NOT, it was under the driver side dash. I had to splice and run a single connection from the aftermarket wiring harness to the OEM air ride control box in order for mine to work. Again, I have an 2004 LS430 UL.

Hope any of this helps and saves you a bit of time and hair pulling, cursing and kicking. I know this much, I wish I had this info before I dove into it.


luckily my controller is in and running. haha.. helpful info though.. thanks... i guess ill be paying lexus a visit pretty soon...
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[quote=VIP KING;226075]Ahhh... this is something I have had nothing but a nightmare to figure out.
 
I have done lots and lots of reading and research with my 04 LS430 UL. Here is what I have found...
 
Disclaimer: I claim not to know it all, but I am simply sharing what I have found to be the answers. And they do make sense, once your ride is on an alighment rack and you're scratching your head wondering where the adjustment bolts are, saying to yourself... WTF!!??
 
As for the front, you will find there is next to nothing as far as being able to adjust camber on our body LS series cars with stock air. (Non air LS's I can not speak for) 
If you see the pics of mine (theyr're on VSC here somewhere) My ride is hammered and maxed out with neg camber.
 
As for the rear, good luck. To my knowledge and discovery (my buddy works for Toyota, he has a buddy at Lexus and they did the part number searches) you have to buy one of 3 different size arms from Lexus, that allow you to have a different range of neg camber. Let me stress and state, there is NO WAY to adjust neg camber on the rear.
Now, you will get neg camber when you lower the car, but there is no way to set neg camber prior to lowering the car. The front, very little if any you can pre adjust (it's actually a joke if you ask me) for neg camber, and mine is maxed out in the front prior to even lowering.
 
So there you have it. 
 
Side note, once you add an aftermarket air controller, the AFS light will kick on constantly, and that my friend is fun to adjust.
 
Another side note, the installation of my air ride controller was completely wrong, it stated my stock Lexus air control box was behind the glove box.. it WAS NOT, it was under the driver side dash. I had to splice and run a single connection from the aftermarket wiring harness to the OEM air ride control box in order for mine to work. Again, I have an 2004 LS430 UL.
 
Hope any of this helps and saves you a bit of time and hair pulling, cursing and kicking. I know this much, I wish I had this info before I dove into it.[/quote]

luckily my controller is in and running. haha..  helpful info though.. thanks... i guess ill be paying lexus a visit pretty soon...
mista808February 5, 2009
#226243
yeah man, out of curiosity i looked it up on the alignment machine and it said to adjust the camber, the arms gotta be changed out with various length arms... if your crazy (which i know you are...) find a set of stock ones and modify them. chop them in half, put some threads on them (left hand and right hand) jambs nuts and adjustment sleeves, and presto..... your own set of adjustable arms....
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yeah man, out of curiosity i looked it up on the alignment machine and it said to adjust the camber, the arms gotta be changed out with various length arms...  if your crazy (which i know you are...) find a set of stock ones and modify them. chop them in half, put some threads on them (left hand and right hand) jambs nuts and adjustment sleeves, and presto..... your own set of adjustable arms....
lash56February 5, 2009
#226362
well its been confirmed, im fucked for now.. haha.... no worries ill figure something out...
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well its been confirmed, im fucked for now.. haha.... no worries ill figure something out...
lash56February 6, 2009
#226618
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=214915&chapter=&sectionids=24,2788&groupid=2523&subgroupid=2795&make=20&model=LS%20430&year=2005&catalogid=2&displayCatalogid=0

so i found the arms i need... i know that for most neg camber ill need the longest arm since its the lower control arm.

im not clear on toe spec though. if i get these arms and want to get alignment, can i correct the toe spec without buying more arms?
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[URL]http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=214915&chapter=&sectionids=24,2788&groupid=2523&subgroupid=2795&make=20&model=LS%20430&year=2005&catalogid=2&displayCatalogid=0[/URL]

so i found the arms i need... i know that for most neg camber ill need the longest arm since its the lower control arm.

im not clear on toe spec though. if i get these arms and want to get alignment, can i correct the toe spec without buying more arms?
VIP KINGFebruary 6, 2009
#226665
lash56;226618 wrote: can i correct the toe spec without buying more arms?



Yes you can.
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[quote=lash56;226618] can i correct the toe spec without buying more arms?[/quote]
 
 
Yes you can.
lash56February 6, 2009
#226749
cool thanks for the help...
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cool thanks for the help...