Thread #16076

VIP body kits need your input

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gatoFebruary 16, 2009
#229278

VIP body kits need your input

I have never really owned a body kit before....

whar are most body kits made of ?

what is the best material to stick with when buying a vip kit?


should I have the kit painted first and then installed/ or fit the whole kit them spray?
are most kits ready and preped for spraying or do they need bondo ect...???


Thanks
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I have never really owned a body kit before....
 
whar are most body kits made of ? 
 
what is the best material to stick with when buying a vip kit?
 
 
should I have the kit painted first and then installed/ or fit the whole kit them spray?
are most kits ready and preped for spraying or do they need bondo ect...???
 
 
Thanks
toyomatt84February 16, 2009
#229285
The vast majority are made of FRP (Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic). I am having my kit fitted first and then painted, as my kit is designed to have a seamless installation. Whatever you buy, it'll probably need some work to fit exactly how you want it to.
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The vast majority are made of FRP (Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic).  I am having my kit fitted first and then painted, as my kit is designed to have a seamless installation.  Whatever you buy, it'll probably need some work to fit exactly how you want it to.
geneticFebruary 16, 2009
#229288
I've never owned a body kit myself, but from what I know most kits are made out of FRP. I know that they also make kits out of that hi-flex plastic stuff but never seen them for vip cars.

From what I know, I think painting the kit then fitting it would be better. It's easier to paint off the car and there's nothing you miss.

And for prepping, most quality kits don't need any work. Just primer and paint. Unless the came crack or a lesser quality kit you might need work on it. But I'm sure whatever you get will be fine.

hope this helps
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I've never owned a body kit myself, but from what I know most kits are made out of FRP. I know that they also make kits out of that hi-flex plastic stuff but never seen them for vip cars. 

From what I know, I think painting the kit then fitting it would be better. It's easier to paint off the car and there's nothing you miss.

And for prepping, most quality kits don't need any work. Just primer and paint. Unless the came crack or a lesser quality kit you might need work on it. But I'm sure whatever you get will be fine. 

hope this helps
antboFebruary 16, 2009
#229293
ive owned 2 kits that was straight from japan. bolted up perfectly. no mods needed. only time you need one really test fitted is knock offs, for sure they gonna have probs
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ive owned 2 kits that was straight from japan. bolted up perfectly. no mods needed. only time you need one really test fitted is knock offs, for sure they gonna have probs
gatoFebruary 16, 2009
#229295
Thanks for the input so far....this helps...


Antbo, were those kits fiberglass? so your saying a nice highend japan kit should be ready to just spray?
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Thanks for the input so far....this helps...
 
 
Antbo, were those kits fiberglass? so your saying a nice highend japan kit should be ready to just spray?
firelizardFebruary 16, 2009
#229310
You should test fit any part you put on the car before committing to paint it.

Even high quality parts may have defects, or your car may have a peculiarity that needs addressing first. It's never wise to paint a part, then see if it fits.
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You should test fit any part you put on the car before committing to paint it.

Even high quality parts may have defects, or your car may have a peculiarity that needs addressing first. It's never wise to paint a part, then see if it fits.
vip tint+glassFebruary 16, 2009
#229312
test fit, then paint off the car, then install. during the test fit you will see where things need to be flushed up. half of the fixing is done on the car then made perfect off the car, test fit again, then painted.

almost all VIP kits are fiberglass, i think.

but most high end authentic kits should need minimal alterations
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test fit, then paint off the car, then install.  during the test fit you will see where things need to be flushed up.  half of the fixing is done on the car then made perfect off the car, test fit again, then painted.

almost all VIP kits are fiberglass, i think.

but most high end authentic kits should need minimal alterations
widebody_QFebruary 16, 2009
#229313
Test fit then paint the whole car =)
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Test fit then paint the whole car =)
geneticFebruary 16, 2009
#229316
ooh woops forgot the test fit part haha

yeah listen to the guys upthere ^^
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ooh woops forgot the test fit part haha

yeah listen to the guys upthere ^^
gatoFebruary 16, 2009
#229323
So how much are yall spending on test fitting, making small corrections and painting/installing a kit?


I also noticed some wavyness going on like in the side skirts.....should I bondo that out?
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So how much are yall spending on test fitting, making small corrections and painting/installing a kit?
 
 
I also noticed some wavyness going on like in the side skirts.....should I bondo that out?
Yokotas13February 16, 2009
#229326
1k posts.....and you post this?

weird
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1k posts.....and you post this?

weird
gatoFebruary 16, 2009
#229328
I can have 10k post and still want members opinions....


do I smell a Hater?
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I can have 10k post and still want members opinions....
 
 
do I smell a Hater?
Yokotas13February 16, 2009
#229330
not so much. but this has been covered before....
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not so much. but this has been covered before....
junjdmFebruary 16, 2009
#229331
I can smell him....he's in this thread....haha...and he stinks too...haha
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I can smell him....he's in this thread....haha...and he stinks too...haha
Yokotas13February 16, 2009
#229332
yeah, because i dont do this shit on a monthly basis.....
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yeah, because i dont do this shit on a monthly basis.....
vip tint+glassFebruary 16, 2009
#229351
side skirts is where you will see most of the waves. VIP kits tend to be very smooth and flat, so you will see any wave in the paint especially on black. body shop will just use bondo/filler to smooth it out.
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side skirts is where you will see most of the waves.  VIP kits tend to be very smooth and flat, so you will see any wave in the paint especially on black.  body shop will just use bondo/filler to smooth it out.
AutofashionFredFebruary 16, 2009
#229354
I would do it in this order:

1. Test Fit it.
2. Take it to body shop
3. Tell Bodyshop to align it if you find errors in fitment
4. Tell them to prep it and block it so it isnt wavy.
5. Paint it


Most kits are Fiberglass. Fiberglass is good because its cheaper to fix it if it gets cracked or chipped. Once you crack plastic you better have a good plastic/rubber welder to fix it and its not cheap.
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I would do it in this order:

1. Test Fit it.
2. Take it to body shop
3. Tell Bodyshop to align it if you find errors in fitment
4. Tell them to prep it and block it so it isnt wavy.
5.  Paint it


Most kits are Fiberglass.  Fiberglass is good because its cheaper to fix it if it gets cracked or chipped.  Once you crack plastic you better have a good plastic/rubber welder to fix it and its not cheap.
vip tint+glassFebruary 17, 2009
#229369
i just bought a plastic welder from snap on to mess around with. have no idea if its any good but my account was low and i wanted to buy something. we only use it to fuse plastic pieces together that have broken off older cars.
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i just bought a plastic welder from snap on to mess around with.  have no idea if its any good but my account was low and i wanted to buy something.  we only use it to fuse plastic pieces together that have broken off older cars.
JP-LS400February 17, 2009
#229382
vip tint+glass;229369 wrote:i just bought a plastic welder from snap on to mess around with. have no idea if its any good but my account was low and i wanted to buy something. we only use it to fuse plastic pieces together that have broken off older cars.




what does it look like?
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[QUOTE=vip tint+glass;229369]i just bought a plastic welder from snap on to mess around with.  have no idea if its any good but my account was low and i wanted to buy something.  we only use it to fuse plastic pieces together that have broken off older cars.[/QUOTE]



what does it look like?
Green PouponFebruary 17, 2009
#229386
Also, do NOT think that if the kit is from japan that means it'll fit. I had sideskirts and door caps that were legit and they didn't fit for shit. Also some kits are meant to fit JDM bumpers and what not. If you bought a Wald lip kit for a GS you'd find the front lip was 2 inches too short on each side. Thats my 2 cents.
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Also, do NOT think that if the kit is from japan that means it'll fit. I had sideskirts and door caps that were legit and they didn't fit for shit. Also some kits are meant to fit JDM bumpers and what not. If you bought a Wald lip kit for a GS you'd find the front lip was 2 inches too short on each side. Thats my 2 cents.
BIGGZFebruary 17, 2009
#229491
^^he's right!dont get caught up in the hype.my Junction Produce kit was not a perfect fit.with the money i spent,id expect it to be perfect.but it wasnt.
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^^he's right!dont get caught up in the hype.my Junction Produce kit was not a perfect fit.with the money i spent,id expect it to be perfect.but it wasnt.
cheez80February 17, 2009
#229496
Green Grundel;229386 wrote:Also, do NOT think that if the kit is from japan that means it'll fit. I had sideskirts and door caps that were legit and they didn't fit for shit.


i've heard the same about wald kits.
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[QUOTE=Green Grundel;229386]Also, do NOT think that if the kit is from japan that means it'll fit. I had sideskirts and door caps that were legit and they didn't fit for shit.[/QUOTE]

i've heard the same about wald kits.
//935GS400February 17, 2009
#229529
what kit are you getting btw.
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what kit are you getting btw.
beangrowerFebruary 17, 2009
#229548
fuccaJPkit.

kit fits like @ss. dunno if there's a diff between jdm and usdm ucf30...or i got a bunk mold...but they had to slap on alot of glass where the front bumper meets the headlights...and everything else is wavy. body shop didn't block the kit.
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fuccaJPkit. 

kit fits like @ss. dunno if there's a diff between jdm and usdm ucf30...or i got a bunk mold...but they had to slap on alot of glass where the front bumper meets the headlights...and everything else is wavy.  body shop didn't block the kit.
ant_jzs160February 18, 2009
#229626
yeah on my old S13 i had 3 different Vertex kits peices, 1 was genuine FRP, 1 was knock-off FRP, one was knock-off Flexi FRP. the Flexi bit was the worst since it bowed away from the car and was quite thin. The other 2 bits were okay but not great.

then i got a genuine Final Konnexion kit and it was a fair way off all round. i actually had to go and help the painter fit it up one day after work cause he said it would "never fit" and was telling me ""its not genuine" and im saying 'its a genuine FK kit, but no it isnt OEM of course not' ffs. Guy was a head fk and the final fit and finish was a bit crap.

i'd tend to agree with all the others, they never fit dead right unless you're lucky, and only you know how picky you are, and have "endless" time to fiddle with it. So i would try to fit yourself, mark what needs doing, then go ahead as said with getting a shop to mod and paint
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yeah on my old S13 i had 3 different Vertex kits peices, 1 was genuine FRP, 1 was knock-off FRP, one was knock-off Flexi FRP. the Flexi bit was the worst since it bowed away from the car and was quite thin. The other 2 bits were okay but not great.
 
then i got a genuine Final Konnexion kit and it was a fair way off all round. i actually had to go and help the painter fit it up one day after work cause he said it would "never fit" and was telling me ""its not genuine" and im saying 'its a genuine FK kit, but no it isnt OEM of course not' ffs. Guy was a head fk and the final fit and finish was a bit crap.
 
i'd tend to agree with all the others, they never fit dead right unless you're lucky, and only you know how picky you are, and have "endless" time to fiddle with it. So i would try to fit yourself, mark what needs doing, then go ahead as said with getting a shop to mod and paint
charley240sxFebruary 18, 2009
#229629
yeah, autocouture is awesome. seriously, even the shop said that the quality is topnotch.
tougefactory vs typem(msport knockoff) was actually not bad either, but quality was thin.
and for my insurance kit, thumbsdown. as much as i spent on this kit, id expect high standards, nope.
so not everything jdm is great, and yeah, ive heard of problems with wald as well.
so goodluck, make sure you do your research first.
Charley
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yeah, autocouture is awesome. seriously, even the shop said that the quality is topnotch. 
tougefactory vs typem(msport knockoff) was actually not bad either, but quality was thin.
and for my insurance kit, thumbsdown. as much as i spent on this kit, id expect high standards, nope. 
so not everything jdm is great, and yeah, ive heard of problems with wald as well.
so goodluck, make sure you do your research first.
Charley
ElitistKFebruary 18, 2009
#229746
fabulous kits are FRP, 9.5/10 fitment, and is very high quality overall.

...and of course you know how good a fab ls430 looks.
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fabulous kits are FRP, 9.5/10 fitment, and is very high quality overall.

...and of course you know how good a fab ls430 looks.
Yokotas13February 20, 2009
#230311
wald fit liek dirt
so did my insurance kit

however my Uras kit, and bwave sides fit like a champ
my Liberal stuff does too. Datasystems isnt toooo bad
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wald fit liek dirt
so did my insurance kit

however my Uras kit, and bwave sides fit like a champ
my Liberal stuff does too.  Datasystems isnt toooo bad
VipDoutFebruary 20, 2009
#230314
the more you pay the better the shop will do ... esp when painting the car
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the more you pay the better the shop will do ... esp when painting the car
Green PouponFebruary 20, 2009
#230397
Or do the work yourself.

%90 of the time the kit doesn't fit cause chop (shedded fiberglass) was sprayed over the molds making it slightly bigger then it should be. If that is the case with some sand paper and a sanding block you should be able to do it yourself. If it takes 3 hours to get a front lip to fit you are doing it right. Compare at ~$100 a hour for fabrication at a shop.

%10 of the time it doesn't fit cause the kit is made for a euro or JDM bumper/see above if thats the case you need to cut the kit and make a spacer with fiberglass which is where a shop would come in if you don't know how to do it yourself.
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Or do the work yourself.

%90 of the time the kit doesn't fit cause chop (shedded fiberglass) was sprayed over the molds making it slightly bigger then it should be. If that is the case with some sand paper and a sanding block you should be able to do it yourself. If it takes 3 hours to get a front lip to fit you are doing it right. Compare at ~$100 a hour for fabrication at a shop.

%10 of the time it doesn't fit cause the kit is made for a euro or JDM bumper/see above if thats the case you need to cut the kit and make a spacer with fiberglass which is where a shop would come in if you don't know how to do it yourself.
NPatelFebruary 21, 2009
#230630

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anyone have opinion on how good the kits are from aimgain , kbreak , JP... how do they compare..?? quality ?? fit? material??/
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anyone have opinion on how good the kits are from aimgain , kbreak , JP... how do they compare..?? quality  ??  fit?   material??/
speedaddictFebruary 23, 2009
#230918
Drop the car off to us Gato...we'll take care of it.
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Drop the car off to us Gato...we'll take care of it.
VipDoutFebruary 23, 2009
#230926
+1 esp since your on the boards with a sick kit and no fitment issues
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+1 esp since your on the boards with a sick kit and no fitment issues
ALEXTHESUS*PECTFebruary 23, 2009
#230997
speedaddict;230918 wrote:Drop the car off to us Gato...we'll take care of it.


Bippu PxrLex;230926 wrote:+1 esp since your on the boards with a sick kit and no fitment issues


you can't argue that logic!:rules:
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[quote=speedaddict;230918]Drop the car off to us Gato...we'll take care of it.[/quote]

[quote=Bippu PxrLex;230926]+1 esp since your on the boards with a sick kit and no fitment issues[/quote]

you can't argue that logic!:rules: