Oldskool japanese fenders
I'm fabbing them out of metal but I can't for the life of me picture how the template would look when its flat. Can someone with MS paint draw me a rough outline of how those look on a piece of paper?
The remind me of the old 70's mercedes SLC race car. I love the look for my project, except mine won't be covering skinny little wheels like on the chaser. =)
I'm going measure them and make them perfect I just have no idea how the template should look to start. Thanks!
Or are they riveting a piece of metal to the car then rolling the fenders??
Like this:
Or this:
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Thanks!
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I'm fabbing them out of metal but I can't for the life of me picture how the template would look when its flat. Can someone with MS paint draw me a rough outline of how those look on a piece of paper?
The remind me of the old 70's mercedes SLC race car. I love the look for my project, except mine won't be covering skinny little wheels like on the chaser. =)
I'm going measure them and make them perfect I just have no idea how the template should look to start. Thanks!
Or are they riveting a piece of metal to the car then rolling the fenders??
Like this:
[img]http://www.terra2imports.ca/ab-larger/115103922659585.jpg[/img]
Or this:
[img]http://www.mbhk.org/images/450SLC%20(1).jpg[/img]
Thanks!
are you going boso?if so go here----->
http://auszoku.net/forums/
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are you going boso?if so go here-----> [url]http://auszoku.net/forums/[/url]
^ nice link, is that australian? be the first time we're on the forefront of something hahah
as for those flares, i had bolt on flares on my old S13. not as big as those but same idea. on a bit of paper they'd look sort of like a crescent moon, like two arcs one a bit smaller than the other tapering to a join. or tapering smaller at least with a flat (like the ones on the top car above)
as for how they attach them, you could rivet them, or what i did is use nutserts which are like a threaded insert. you drill holes in your metal guard,then get a gun like a rivet gun for nutserts and it clamps up the nutsert to the guard, and it has a thread in it. i used 10mm nutserts which had i think a 6mm thread. Then you just screw in some spring washers and allen-drive cap screws to hold them on. you will need like a rubber seal too to fill the edges. i got them moulded on but they started to crack where they joined.
as for the stock guard underneath, the best bet is to cut it all out as close up to the top edge of the flare as you can, so that theres really as much room under there as it appears. otherwise your wheel sits in the extra arch flare, but then cant tuck cause the stock metal guard is there. it may even pay while doing the metal work to try and pull your standard guards a bit even so they arent so flat allowing the wheel to go up under ok, depending how big the flares are.
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^ nice link, is that australian? be the first time we're on the forefront of something hahah
as for those flares, i had bolt on flares on my old S13. not as big as those but same idea. on a bit of paper they'd look sort of like a crescent moon, like two arcs one a bit smaller than the other tapering to a join. or tapering smaller at least with a flat (like the ones on the top car above)
as for how they attach them, you could rivet them, or what i did is use nutserts which are like a threaded insert. you drill holes in your metal guard,then get a gun like a rivet gun for nutserts and it clamps up the nutsert to the guard, and it has a thread in it. i used 10mm nutserts which had i think a 6mm thread. Then you just screw in some spring washers and allen-drive cap screws to hold them on. you will need like a rubber seal too to fill the edges. i got them moulded on but they started to crack where they joined.
as for the stock guard underneath, the best bet is to cut it all out as close up to the top edge of the flare as you can, so that theres really as much room under there as it appears. otherwise your wheel sits in the extra arch flare, but then cant tuck cause the stock metal guard is there. it may even pay while doing the metal work to try and pull your standard guards a bit even so they arent so flat allowing the wheel to go up under ok, depending how big the flares are.
Thanks! That is extremely helpful. I'm going to look into "nutserts" as a way of doing it. I do not want to mold them to the car its not the look i'm going for so that is perfect. Thanks again.
EDIT: I tried to register for that site but I can't get a authorization code??
ant_jzs160, can I PM you something to post on there for me?
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Thanks! That is extremely helpful. I'm going to look into "nutserts" as a way of doing it. I do not want to mold them to the car its not the look i'm going for so that is perfect. Thanks again.
EDIT: I tried to register for that site but I can't get a authorization code??
ant_jzs160, can I PM you something to post on there for me?
Green Grundel;234248 wrote:Thanks! That is extremely helpful. I'm going to look into "nutserts" as a way of doing it. I do not want to mold them to the car its not the look i'm going for so that is perfect. Thanks again.
EDIT: I tried to register for that site but I can't get a authorization code??
ant_jzs160, can I PM you something to post on there for me?
when i tried to sign up before,i had the same problem and gave up and decided to just lurk.
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[QUOTE=Green Grundel;234248]Thanks! That is extremely helpful. I'm going to look into "nutserts" as a way of doing it. I do not want to mold them to the car its not the look i'm going for so that is perfect. Thanks again.
[B][COLOR="Red"]EDIT: I tried to register for that site but I can't get a authorization code??[/COLOR][/B]
ant_jzs160, can I PM you something to post on there for me?[/QUOTE]
when i tried to sign up before,i had the same problem and gave up and decided to just lurk.
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here this may help.
[url]http://retrorides.proboards86.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=usetharch&thread=44478[/url]
^ Thank you very much. That is exactly what I needed. Now if I can just find out which tires I need i'll be set!
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^ Thank you very much. That is exactly what I needed. Now if I can just find out which tires I need i'll be set!
No probs Green Grundel but just quietly, i also was like wats this authorization code shit, so i just put in the name of the forum in there auszoku and it worked ;)
edit - that link is a good one, that guy's car is pretty wild. He refers to 'rivet nuts' that is also another name for 'nutserts'. but maybe rivet nuts sounds like it makes more sense so you may have more luck using that term!
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No probs Green Grundel but just quietly, i also was like wats this authorization code shit, so i just put in the name of the forum in there auszoku and it worked ;)
edit - that link is a good one, that guy's car is pretty wild. He refers to 'rivet nuts' that is also another name for 'nutserts'. but maybe rivet nuts sounds like it makes more sense so you may have more luck using that term!
That
http://auszoku.net/forums/ place is pretty cool, lots of info there for the car I'm building too. I'm not doing this style of build, but there is still alot of good technical info. I think somewhere on there they post links to pre-made fiberglass over-fenders that are universal. But since you're fabbing your own you wont need that. I'm pretty sure the stock fenders are cut once the over-fender is made, thats how they can get the car dropped that low with such wild offsets.
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That [url]http://auszoku.net/forums/[/url] place is pretty cool, lots of info there for the car I'm building too. I'm not doing this style of build, but there is still alot of good technical info. I think somewhere on there they post links to pre-made fiberglass over-fenders that are universal. But since you're fabbing your own you wont need that. I'm pretty sure the stock fenders are cut once the over-fender is made, thats how they can get the car dropped that low with such wild offsets.
"...and i jizzed in my pants"
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"...and i jizzed in my pants"
[IMG]http://www.mbhk.org/images/450SLC%20(1).jpg[/IMG]
CrazyHawaiian;234363 wrote:That http://auszoku.net/forums/ place is pretty cool, lots of info there for the car I'm building too. I'm not doing this style of build, but there is still alot of good technical info. I think somewhere on there they post links to pre-made fiberglass over-fenders that are universal. But since you're fabbing your own you wont need that. I'm pretty sure the stock fenders are cut once the over-fender is made, thats how they can get the car dropped that low with such wild offsets.
Ya typically you cut the fenders and leave squares you fold up and weld into place but the mercedes metal is so thick i'm going to just have cut it out and fab a sheetmetal guard to seal it all up.
My biggest issue is going to be making it so I can still open my rear doors. I have a few ideas so we'll have to see. Those plastic fenders at 2MM don't seem very thick at all. I'll have to try it out and see how it goes but i'm not getting my hopes up.
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[QUOTE=CrazyHawaiian;234363]That [url]http://auszoku.net/forums/[/url] place is pretty cool, lots of info there for the car I'm building too. I'm not doing this style of build, but there is still alot of good technical info. I think somewhere on there they post links to pre-made fiberglass over-fenders that are universal. But since you're fabbing your own you wont need that. I'm pretty sure the stock fenders are cut once the over-fender is made, thats how they can get the car dropped that low with such wild offsets.[/QUOTE]
Ya typically you cut the fenders and leave squares you fold up and weld into place but the mercedes metal is so thick i'm going to just have cut it out and fab a sheetmetal guard to seal it all up.
My biggest issue is going to be making it so I can still open my rear doors. I have a few ideas so we'll have to see. Those plastic fenders at 2MM don't seem very thick at all. I'll have to try it out and see how it goes but i'm not getting my hopes up.
They build some custom glass one's on Muscle Car Tv on PowerBlock on spike a while back! It was cool as shit... Ill try and find a link. They did it on their project Mustang
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They build some custom glass one's on Muscle Car Tv on PowerBlock on spike a while back! It was cool as shit... Ill try and find a link. They did it on their project Mustang
Here a link to what the Mustang looked like before the Glass work!!! That is some nuts stuff
http://www.powerblocktv.com/site3/index.php/musclecar-episodes?ep_num=MC2007-21&ep_sea=0702
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Here a link to what the Mustang looked like before the Glass work!!! That is some nuts stuff
[URL]http://www.powerblocktv.com/site3/index.php/musclecar-episodes?ep_num=MC2007-21&ep_sea=0702[/URL]
^ interesting thanks!
How many inches out would you say that tire sticks?

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^ interesting thanks!
[b]How many inches out would you say that tire sticks?[/b]
[img]http://www.powerblocktv.com/img/Episode_Images/MC-0721.jpg[/img]
^ i dont know but if you find out the specs of the wheel/tyre combo you can see it is basically half of that!
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^ i dont know but if you find out the specs of the wheel/tyre combo you can see it is basically half of that!
Green Grundel;234449 wrote:^ interesting thanks!
How many inches out would you say that tire sticks?

alot....

here is the end product....
and check this link for a picture by picture build
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=6&i=166323&t=166323
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[quote=Green Grundel;234449]^ interesting thanks!
[B]How many inches out would you say that tire sticks?[/B]
[IMG]http://www.powerblocktv.com/img/Episode_Images/MC-0721.jpg[/IMG][/quote]
alot....
[IMG]http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s123/fiberglassforums/mustang/IMG_3428.jpg[/IMG]
here is the end product....
and check this link for a picture by picture build
[URL]http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=6&i=166323&t=166323[/URL]
muscle car and all the other shows on the powerblock tv dont relate to the vip scene but they sure are fun to watch and have some good ideas and info... oh and also check out Gears and Speed... great show
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muscle car and all the other shows on the powerblock tv dont relate to the vip scene but they sure are fun to watch and have some good ideas and info... oh and also check out Gears and Speed... great show
Ya all great shows. I love muscle cars, especially rats and 30's rods. American muscle is the reason my benz is going to be able to move, cause it sure as hell isn't german overengineering.
That mustang has the same tires I used to have. Judging by the sharpie in that guys hand i'm guessing ~6 inches. According to the wheel offset calculator my tires will stick out 5.7" which is not a big deal for flares i'm running (in fact if they didn't stick out that much it probably wouldn't look right) if that mustang has the same amount of poke then I am even more confident about this build. Thanks for all the links!
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Ya all great shows. I love muscle cars, especially rats and 30's rods. American muscle is the reason my benz is going to be able to move, cause it sure as hell isn't german overengineering.
That mustang has the same tires I used to have. Judging by the sharpie in that guys hand i'm guessing ~6 inches. According to the wheel offset calculator my tires will stick out 5.7" which is not a big deal for flares i'm running (in fact if they didn't stick out that much it probably wouldn't look right) if that mustang has the same amount of poke then I am even more confident about this build. Thanks for all the links!
you could buy ZG fenders to achieve that look. Search around on google.
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you could buy ZG fenders to achieve that look. Search around on google.