Thread #16569

legal stuff about tire stretching

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bigdreamsMarch 17, 2009
#236122

legal stuff about tire stretching

i've been to a few shops around where i live. everyone has told me that they won't do stretches. they all said it was illegal to drive w/ your tires like that. i don't know if anyone has posted about this subject or not. please help w/ this subject
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i've been to a few shops around where i live. everyone has told me that they won't do stretches. they all said it was illegal to drive w/ your tires like that. i don't know if anyone has posted about this subject or not. please help w/ this subject
flexinsteelzMarch 17, 2009
#236125
u trippin... go to tire shops in the hood...the gangster ones will do anything for cash...
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u trippin... go to tire shops in the hood...the gangster ones will do anything for cash...
antboMarch 17, 2009
#236126
^^lol!! :truestory:
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^^lol!! :truestory:
20sburningMarch 18, 2009
#236239
didnt ShaneC get a ticket for that?
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didnt ShaneC get a ticket for that?
DriftGirlMarch 18, 2009
#236263
Liability issues when idiots blame the tire companies because the tires go bad fast or develop other issues because they were fitted to rims they were not made for.....or some that try to blame the companies that mounted them when they blow out on a bump or have their rims folded in half. :innoutrofl2:

a lot of tire places dont want to deal with the potential headache. :pat:
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Liability issues when idiots blame the tire companies because the tires go bad fast or develop other i[I]ssues [/I]because they were fitted to rims they were not made for.....or some that try to blame the companies that mounted them when they blow out on a bump or have their rims folded in half.  :innoutrofl2:
 
a lot of tire places dont want to deal with the potential headache. :pat:
DominikMarch 18, 2009
#236277
Its clearly outlined in Australia. Wheels must be within the widths approved by the tyre manufacturers. These approved widths are included on American tyres too:
http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tireselector/SizeSpecs_BS_EN.aspx?Product_ID=1113

I wouldnt be surprised if going outside those approved widths is illegal in the US as well (though it seems most states in the US has an 'anything goes' attitude to car mods!)
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Its clearly outlined in Australia. Wheels must be within the widths approved by the tyre manufacturers. These approved widths are included on American tyres too:
[URL]http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tireselector/SizeSpecs_BS_EN.aspx?Product_ID=1113[/URL]
 
I wouldnt be surprised if going outside those approved widths is illegal in the US as well (though it seems most states in the US has an 'anything goes' attitude to car mods!)
20sburningMarch 18, 2009
#236282
yep.... which is a good thing
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yep.... which is a good thing
Yokotas13March 18, 2009
#236287
i will take a ticket and fine, and still stretch my shit
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i will take a ticket and fine, and still stretch my shit
widebody_QMarch 18, 2009
#236304
When ever doing something that doesn't seem right, you have to use street smarts. If you go in there telling them that you are trying to stretch a tire, 8 of 10 places will tell you to leave. What you have to do is go there with the rim and tire and tell them to put it on. At that point, they won't know that the tire is going to stretch until they put it on the wheel. From there, they already wasted 5-10 minutes of their time which they will not get paid for if they don't fill up the tire with air. :biggthumpup:

If they still give you a hard time, tell them its for a show car and that you don't plan to drive on it. Ive had big corperation tire places stretch tires for me, its all about how you play your cards.
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When ever doing something that doesn't seem right, you have to use street smarts. If you go in there telling them that you are trying to stretch a tire, 8 of 10 places will tell you to leave. What you have to do is go there with the rim and tire and tell them to put it on. At that point, they won't know that the tire is going to stretch until they put it on the wheel. From there, they already wasted 5-10 minutes of their time which they will not get paid for if they don't fill up the tire with air. :biggthumpup:
 
If they still give you a hard time, tell them its for a show car and that you don't plan to drive on it.  Ive had big corperation tire places stretch tires for me, its all about how you play your cards.
SPYblackMarch 18, 2009
#236413
Thats definantly a bullshit deal if its illegal
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Thats definantly a bullshit deal if its illegal
F.L.S.March 19, 2009
#236596
Why is it bullshit if it's illegal? It IS unsafe, and you put other people at risk when you do it. The tires are designed for certain width rims. Not only that, when you "stretch" smaller tires onto bigger rims, they're always, always WAY under rated for load, meaning the 205 or 215 you stretched onto a 10" wheel was designed to carry the weight of a frickin Honda Civic, not a big, heavy, luxury car.

Anyhow, most of us all know this, and do it anyhow. Like Grant says, he doesn't give a shit, he's gonna do it and pay the fine if he gets one. So you just accept it and move on. I can't afford new tires every 4 months, and don't think stretch looks as cool as others do. I got 235's on 9" and 265's on 10" and that's enough for me.
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Why is it bullshit if it's illegal? It IS unsafe, and you put other people at risk when you do it. The tires are designed for certain width rims.  Not only that, when you "stretch" smaller tires onto bigger rims, they're always, always WAY under rated for load, meaning the 205 or 215 you stretched onto a 10" wheel was designed to carry the weight of a frickin Honda Civic, not a big, heavy, luxury car.

Anyhow, most of us all know this, and do it anyhow. Like Grant says, he doesn't give a shit, he's gonna do it and pay the fine if he gets one.  So you just accept it and move on. I can't afford new tires every 4 months, and don't think stretch looks as cool as others do.  I got 235's on 9" and 265's on 10" and that's enough for me.
bigdreamsMarch 19, 2009
#236617
thanks for all the help, comments, and advice. i think i'll just buy the wheels and tires separately and take them to a local small shop and get them to put it on like widebody_q said. as for taking it to a hood shop, i live way too far from any hood shop. but i think it Alabama, we have an understood "anything goes" attitude. i know they don't pull over all the rednecks w/ lifted trucks that have their tires out past the fenders, so i guess almost anything goes here. though i have seen them give tint tickets (mostly for just the windshield being tinted, not b/c of how dark the other windows are tinted)
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thanks for all the help, comments, and advice. i think i'll just buy the wheels and tires separately and take them to a local small shop and get them to put it on like widebody_q said. as for taking it to a hood shop, i live way too far from any hood shop. but i think it Alabama, we have an understood "anything goes" attitude. i know they don't pull over all the rednecks w/ lifted trucks that have their tires out past the fenders, so i guess almost anything goes here. though i have seen them give tint tickets (mostly for just the windshield being tinted, not b/c of how dark the other windows are tinted)
RASRX7March 19, 2009
#236619
theres almost a good chance youll destroy something and hold them resposible, thats what they are thinking..so most big shops would rather not deal with the drama. take it to a small shop, but make sure they know how to handle your wheels. i had a really small shop mount and balance a 15" wheel with no stretch and i came out with what looked like curbage around the whole lip....he has no idea of the value of the wheel and mostly was used to mounting steelies....so thats what i get for being cheap.... never again :sad:
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theres almost a good chance youll destroy something and hold them resposible, thats what they are thinking..so most big shops would rather not deal with the drama. take it to a small shop, but make sure they know how to handle your wheels. i had a really small shop mount and balance a 15" wheel with no stretch and i came out with what looked like curbage around the whole lip....he has no idea of the value of the wheel and mostly was used to mounting steelies....so thats what i get for being cheap.... never again :sad:
ant_jzs160March 21, 2009
#237004
yeh that sometimes is the problem - the guys cowboy enough to do it or give it a go may not be used to handling big $ rims.

as for the load ratings on big stretch, this is true, but tends to be to do with sidewall as well as width. the lower profiles tend to have less load rating. in saying that, i did a lot of thinking on the subject before getting mine stretched. i daily 245/35 nexen on 10" which isnt massive stretch but its quite a bit with rim beyond tyre and i daily it. when you work out the load ratings you have a fair bit of leeway still, provided you dont often carry heaps of people and load, and also provided you keep the tyre pressures up nice and high.

its perfectly understandable shops wont do it too, its purely and simply a liability issue. they dont want to be responsible if you have an accident due to it.
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yeh that sometimes is the problem - the guys cowboy enough to do it or give it a go may not be used to handling big $ rims.
 
as for the load ratings on big stretch, this is true, but tends to be to do with sidewall as well as width. the lower profiles tend to have less load rating. in saying that, i did a lot of thinking on the subject before getting mine stretched. i daily 245/35 nexen on 10" which isnt massive stretch but its quite a bit with rim beyond tyre and i daily it. when you work out the load ratings you have a fair bit of leeway still, provided you dont often carry heaps of people and load, and also provided you keep the tyre pressures up nice and high.
 
its perfectly understandable shops wont do it too, its purely and simply a liability issue. they dont want to be responsible if you have an accident due to it.
ant_jzs160March 21, 2009
#237003
edit - double post.. :/
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edit - double post.. :/