FYI: S13 240sx control-rods works in your 97-01 q45t cars! it's true!

yep, so my stock OEM control-rods from 1999 went bent and the joint parts where the rubber boot was broke and was causing the wheel to shift/move when i braked (a common problem in S13/S14s). i had a set of brand-new 89-91 nissan 240SX control-rods made by TEIN sitting in the showcase and a buddy of mine PROMISED me they'd bolt right in. myself a skeptic until the ones from my q45t came off and we compared to the TEIN ones... DIRECT FITMENT!!!  the entire install took 45 minutes and now i'm running the TEIN control-rods off of a S13... i can say for certain the ride is improved, the cornering is awesome and the turns are now more controlled... what difference this small mod made and i am now a believer. the stock part was like $498/each and the TEINs are much less. the q45t got aligned today and i'll post up pics of the finished product soon. go swap 'em out and feel the difference fellars... payce! mikey

Tie rod ends are less than $40 for a pair? And just info for others. Z32 300Zx ones will go on 1990-1996 Q45 as well, in fact many of them are interchangeable. The J30 ones will also work on the Y33. No need to spend $$ on Tein either. Just so you all know stock tie rod ends work fine on these cars, hell, we drifted on them for years before aftermarket ones were readily available. Yes, we broke them, but how many of you are really putting that much stress on the tie rod ends? Haha, I appreciate your enthusiasm but it's old news..like really old. I'm glad you stumbled onto it though, others of us take info like that for granted...so I guess it's good you brought it up.

Thanks for that info. I believe the Y33 shares many suspension components with the Y32 so that might come in handy for me too.

I'll be looking into whether S13 rear upper camber arms also fit my Y32 (and by extrapolation, also the Y33). I've heard the rear toe rods are the same...

[quote=NG C-Klasse ]
Haha, I appreciate your enthusiasm but it's old news..like really old. I'm glad you stumbled onto it though, others of us take info like that for granted...so I guess it's good you brought it up.
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I think you will find that [i]most[/i] of us dont know things like this. We dont all come from drift/diy/workshop backgrounds so info like this (and what you have added) is very useful. I dont think there was any need to belittle his discovery or announcement though.

Since you obviously do know about things like this, feel free to enlighten the rest of us; perhaps a "Nissan Shared Suspension components" thread or something like that. It would be a great way to share knowlege...

[quote=Dominik ] Thanks for that info. I believe the Y33 shares many suspension components with the Y32 so that might come in handy for me too.

I'll be looking into whether S13 rear upper camber arms also fit my Y32 (and by extrapolation, also the Y33). I've heard the rear toe rods are the same...
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sweet, the alignment shops says the y33 upper camber arms CANNOT be adjusted. i tried playing with the mounts and Nick Fousekis of Falken Tires told me he played with the front arms which gave him an additional 1/4" drop on the front... i shall experiment that as well. happy modding fellahs... mikey

[quote=Dominik ]
I think you will find that [i]most[/i] of us dont know things like this. We dont all come from drift/diy/workshop backgrounds so info like this (and what you have added) is very useful. I dont think there was any need to belittle his discovery or announcement though.

Since you obviously do know about things like this, feel free to enlighten the rest of us; perhaps a "Nissan Shared Suspension components" thread or something like that. It would be a great way to share knowlege...
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Yah, no intention to belittle, beleive me. If I would have meant to belittle my post would have been far different. I'll put something together though.

[quote=Dominik ]I think you will find that [i]most[/i] of us dont know things like this. We dont all come from drift/diy/workshop backgrounds so info like this (and what you have added) is very useful. I dont think there was any need to belittle his discovery or announcement though.

Since you obviously do know about things like this, feel free to enlighten the rest of us; perhaps a "Nissan Shared Suspension components" thread or something like that. It would be a great way to share knowlege...[/quote]

sorry if it's a repost guys, i just thought i share knowledge as i learn myself... nick's car is pure sex... :smitten: and btw, i had to chance to meet nick in person a couple of wks ago, dude's super cool!

[img]http://www.jtuned.com/content/articlefiles/445-q45lead.jpg[/img]

[quote=XK-Y33 ]
sorry if it's a repost guys, i just thought i share knowledge as i learn myself... nick's car is pure sex... :smitten: and btw, i had to chance to meet nick in person a couple of wks ago, dude's super cool!

[img]http://www.jtuned.com/content/articlefiles/445-q45lead.jpg[/img]
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No worries Mikey...and yah Nick's always been a great guy for as long as I've known him. I treat him no different than any of you, he gets scolded for wheel fitment too..hahaha.

hey[u] guys[/u], did a google and found some cheap-ass TEIN tie-rods... mine's are the standard-issued TEIN green...

[img]http://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/images/products/TRS01-N2010.jpg[/img]

linky: [url]http://www.prostreetonline.com/buy/tein_tie_rods/trs01-n2010/[/url]

mikey

Maybe this is the wrong pic to go with what is listed:
[url]http://autosportstyle.com/shop/nissan-19891994-240sx-tein-tein-rods-p-40453.html[/url]

[quote=XK-Y33 ]
hey[u] guys[/u], did a google and found some cheap-ass TEIN tie-rods... mine's are the standard-issued TEIN green...

[img]http://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/images/products/TRS01-N2010.jpg[/img]

linky: [url]http://www.prostreetonline.com/buy/tein_tie_rods/trs01-n2010/[/url]

mikey
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Umm, Mikey those are tie rods.  They go on the ends of your rack and pinion for steering. The ones we put on your car are called control rods or control arms.  Totally different animals. :D

[quote=fergy ]
Umm, Mikey those are tie rods.  They go on the ends of your rack and pinion for steering. The ones we put on your car are called control rods or control arms.  Totally different animals. :D
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hehehe as i was reading i was thinking to myself, tie rods dont shake the car while braking its the tension arms ( i know ive had this problem as some bolts started to come loose on me)

regardless, the tie rods do help with getting more angle, but im unsure if u guys care much for angle hehehe.
tension rods allow for caster adjustment, so when u were braking that shimmy was the arms that keep the LCA from moving around. since it was bend u had uneven caster, so id assume it was pulling to the side with less caster then?
good mods though

lots of nissan suspension parts are interchangeable.
s13 adj arms work on the rear of cefiros, laurels, s14, r32 gtst.
different tie rods are used for nissan racks and what not as well
not sure if z brakes fit on all nissans, i know they fit on s13,s14,laurel,cefiro etc.

interesting to know about hat interchangability on the Q's as well, seeing as theres a lot of suspension availabilty for s13/s14s :)

Well I am getting S14 rear upper control arms from JIC for my Y33. Should be here and on the car sometime next week.

Well, if my coilovers arrive this week it'll be a race to see who gets them first (the S14 rear upper arms) ;)

Actually, i'll let you get them first and you can tell me how they fit :D

Anyone know about which toe control rods fit the Y32/33?

[quote=Dominik ]
Well, if my coilovers arrive this week it'll be a race to see who gets them first (the S14 rear upper arms) ;)

Actually, i'll let you get them first and you can tell me how they fit :D

Anyone know about which toe control rods fit the Y32/33?
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hehe mine will be here on tuesday. I would like to know about toe rods as well. I know the front ones from S13 will fit.

[quote=fergy ]
Umm, Mikey those are tie rods. They go on the ends of your rack and pinion for steering. The ones we put on your car are called control rods or control arms. Totally different animals. :D
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pwned! :2funny:

Damn, i dont have that sort of predictability... Tomorrow it will be 11 weeks since they were posted (from Japan). I tried calling Customs, Quarantine, Australia Post, nobody could give me any info (last time i do sea-mail i swear!)

The only comfort i have is that they will be absolutely useless to anyone else in Australia since there are no other modified Y32s (and only 1 Y33 that i have heard of) here.

Anyway, i have a pic of a Y32 in one of my mags and he is using Celsior Toe arms in the rear! but i'd say that involved customisation. He also appears to have Z32 300ZX camber arms.

My friends are making fun of me for trying to get Silvia parts etc. They tell me i should go drifting since i'll have drift-spec suspension! Haha... They are just jealous because there's nothing out there for their cars.

[quote=fergy ]Umm, Mikey those are tie rods.  They go on the ends of your rack and pinion for steering. The ones we put on your car are called control rods or control arms.  Totally different animals. :D[/quote]

i stand corrected; sorry fellahs for the misquotation... i should just stick to real estate ehh? :knuppel2: btw, "W" next wknd?

Hey, i need an urgent answer... Do Z32 300ZX rear toe arms fit on a Y32/Y33?

I have an offer to buy a pair pretty cheap but i gotta make a quick decision...

[quote=Dominik ]
Hey, i need an urgent answer... Do Z32 300ZX rear toe arms fit on a Y32/Y33?

I have an offer to buy a pair pretty cheap but i gotta make a quick decision...
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Can you measure your stock ones? Like how long are they and how do they attach.

I got a measurement of 350mm on the stock ones... It has a rose joint at one side, and a u-bracket on the other side

This is the one i am about to buy:
[img]http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/795/1028/89411.jpg[/img]
Connections look the same...

According to the seller he measured something like 335 at shortest adjustment point and approx 345 in the middle... sounds about right, yeah?

I just measured mine and I concur with that.

Thanks heaps for that!! I should have them by the end of the week to confirm it, but i believe thats another one for the compatibility list!

Dominic please do keep us posted...I hope they fit my Y33 as well. I don't want to go to the allignment place and have them tell me my toe arms are maxed out. >:( I think I will have more suspension work than some of the local drifter guys hehe.

Well, i confirmed with FAST that the Y32 and Y33 toe rods are identical. Now i just gotta figure out if they fit my car ;)

Only problem is that i wont get them until Monday (has to be posted, and wont fit in a regular express satchel)

Oh and the good news is my wheels/coilovers arrived this week, so i will be trying to fit them tomorrow (I can forsee some problems with the wheels though. Remember One-ton's sig saying "when you see someone with 10J+20, why go 10J+5? Welcome to the world of 'i went too far'"? I think thats me right now LOL).

Anyway, Using FAST i also found the rear upper link (?) Is identical to alot of other cars including Z32s, R34s, C34 Laurel's etc. Looks like a small part so i am guessing there would be an aftermarket version of that too..

After getting these chrome toe arms i would love to do the whole setup with aftermarket parts; a chrome/gold rear suspension setup (and the fronts, although I am sure the lower control arms would be hideously expensive for these cars)

Would make all the drift boys jealous, even though i would only be doing it for looks and/or inducing adverse suspension geometry ;D

Ok, the Nissan interchangeable parts thread would be very helpful and I think should be posted as a sticky. My tension control rod bushings are shot and I've been meaning to replace them with some S13/S14 pillowball ones, but I'm not sure if anyone else has tried this yet, and for which ones I should go with S13 or S14. Its good to hear that the rear control arms work. I'd like to replace my tie-rod ends too because I think the bushings on those may be going too. So the TEIN tie-rod ends are a direct replacement for Y33 oem tie-rods? Also, awhile back me and some friends were test fitting some S13/S14 rear coils, and we found that the rear upper mount is the same as S14's and that the length of the damper is the same as S13. I was close to having them order a custom coilover for the rear utilizing an S13 coilover with an S14 upper mount, but ending up find another set of IMPUL lowering springs that lower a little more than TEIN. So that may be useful info to some. Oh yea, and my Infiniti OEM Leather/Wood wheel came out of a '99 I30 Limited and perfectly matches my oem interior color, airbag, and cruise controls.

I am crossing my fingers in hopes that the Z32 toe arms fit our car...the stock toe adjustment on my car is maxed out, but the toe is still messed up pretty badly...so for now I am going back to 3 degrees of camber until I can get my toe arms :'(

Just get those cheap ones off ebay.. they work fine for rear toe adjustment... and they're basically the same across the nissan board

Yep. confirmed the Z32 toe links are practically the same. The rose-joint is 1cm narrower, but with a few 1/2" washers (2 each side of the rose-joint - 8 needed all up).