Chronicles of Jedidiah's 2GS...
So I have been getting PM's and questions about how I can drive so low.. well I figure I would just post the chronicles of my adventures and have a place to report the future adventures to come.
Disclaimer: While there will be pictures, they will suck because they are off an I-phone. This is also not for the attention-impaired.
With that said, Here is how I bought her about two years ago:
Too Funny right?
So after driving around like that for about a year, I began my journey of driving low... (again, crappy pics.. sorry)
What's funny about these pics is that the car really isn't that low.. just goes to show how modifying is an evolutionary process. I would definitely suggest someone who wants to drive low to do it in incremental stages, as your driving styles change dramatically the lower you get.
After a couple of months of driving at that height, I slowly started lowering the car lil by lil... camber, tire sizing, fender modifying started to come into play.. one day, I had 4 friends in the car (guys ranging from 180-250 lbs) and my car sat like this:

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So I have been getting PM's and questions about how I can drive so low.. well I figure I would just post the chronicles of my adventures and have a place to report the future adventures to come.
Disclaimer: While there will be pictures, they will suck because they are off an I-phone. This is also not for the attention-impaired.
With that said, Here is how I bought her about two years ago:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0003.jpg[/IMG]
Too Funny right?
So after driving around like that for about a year, I began my journey of driving low... (again, crappy pics.. sorry)
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0190.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0188.jpg[/IMG]
What's funny about these pics is that the car really isn't that low.. just goes to show how modifying is an evolutionary process. I would definitely suggest someone who wants to drive low to do it in incremental stages, as your driving styles change dramatically the lower you get.
After a couple of months of driving at that height, I slowly started lowering the car lil by lil... camber, tire sizing, fender modifying started to come into play.. one day, I had 4 friends in the car (guys ranging from 180-250 lbs) and my car sat like this:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0229.jpg[/IMG]
There I realized that thats how I want to drive all the time. But, with the commitment of riding low comes its setbacks:
I left my car at my parents house for a week while I was on vacation... I came back to the above. My parents have a 4 car garage, and my dad went to move the car out of one bay and into another. When moving the car into another bar, he entered the incline of the garage with the wheels turned, and the driver side caught the tire and pulled the fender in. I had to then raise the car and pull the fender out with a hammer just to get it on the flat bed truck.
Lesson learned: DONT LET OTHER PEOPLE DRIVE YOUR LOWERED CAR.
Two weeks later, all better.....
The next thing was to make sure my tires didn't cause that problem again, SO new tires and camber adjustments:
Went from a 225/35 in the front to a 225/30 front for more stretch... less rubber on the road meant already bent rims were inevitable but again, the price you pay for driving low.
You can see in this picture that there was less stretch before...
With the new tires... much more stretch and less height with the 30 series:
CAUTION: When going to this extreme of a tire fitment, if you daily drive your car you will at some point bend a rim. The ride will also be substantially rougher, but you will get some crazy attention being that much lower. ;)
Now for the rears:
From a shot 245/35:
To a 235/35... ahh thats better:

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There I realized that thats how I want to drive all the time. But, with the commitment of riding low comes its setbacks:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0231.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0232.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0238.jpg[/IMG]
I left my car at my parents house for a week while I was on vacation... I came back to the above. My parents have a 4 car garage, and my dad went to move the car out of one bay and into another. When moving the car into another bar, he entered the incline of the garage with the wheels turned, and the driver side caught the tire and pulled the fender in. I had to then raise the car and pull the fender out with a hammer just to get it on the flat bed truck.
Lesson learned: DONT LET OTHER PEOPLE DRIVE YOUR LOWERED CAR.
Two weeks later, all better.....
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0245.jpg[/IMG]
The next thing was to make sure my tires didn't cause that problem again, SO new tires and camber adjustments:
Went from a 225/35 in the front to a 225/30 front for more stretch... less rubber on the road meant already bent rims were inevitable but again, the price you pay for driving low.
You can see in this picture that there was less stretch before...
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0232.jpg[/IMG]
With the new tires... much more stretch and less height with the 30 series:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0305-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0306-1.jpg[/IMG]
CAUTION: When going to this extreme of a tire fitment, if you daily drive your car you will at some point bend a rim. The ride will also be substantially rougher, but you will get some crazy attention being that much lower. ;)
Now for the rears:
From a shot 245/35:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0276.jpg[/IMG]
To a 235/35... ahh thats better:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0279.jpg[/IMG]
So now that the tires are setup right, onto fitment and alignment...
First Jeff Tsai getting busy on a metal grinder to their rear fenders:
The man is serious about his work..:D
I don't have pictures, but the front fenders have been shaved and fiberglassed for re-enforcement.
For those of you who want to meet the DOCTOR OF ALIGNMENT look no further then Brandon Budd... PM for his number if your local to Dallas / Ft Worth.
Here is Brandon doing work (notice the spacers) :
AND we now have lip to fender flushness:
And this was the result of that work:
BUT thats just the beginning... there's more...
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So now that the tires are setup right, onto fitment and alignment...
First Jeff Tsai getting busy on a metal grinder to their rear fenders:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0294.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0291.jpg[/IMG]
The man is serious about his work..:D
I don't have pictures, but the front fenders have been shaved and fiberglassed for re-enforcement.
For those of you who want to meet the DOCTOR OF ALIGNMENT look no further then Brandon Budd... PM for his number if your local to Dallas / Ft Worth.
Here is Brandon doing work (notice the spacers) :
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0310.jpg[/IMG]
AND we now have lip to fender flushness:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0314.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0315.jpg[/IMG]
And this was the result of that work:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/DSC_BenGScopycopy.jpg[/IMG]
BUT thats just the beginning... there's more...
Before and after wheels/ride height are complete polar opposites. Your fender!! That looks brutal. Bent wheels are no big deal just get a deadblow hammer :P it'll straighten them right out.
Oh and hit me up foo!!
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Before and after wheels/ride height are complete polar opposites. Your fender!! That looks brutal. Bent wheels are no big deal just get a deadblow hammer :P it'll straighten them right out.
Oh and hit me up foo!!
NO less then a week after getting her dialed in, I'm driving down one of the cleanest stretches of highway in Dallas (I-75 near Mockingbird Ln).. I have never seen so much as a beer can roll across this road. That night was different... I'm cruising not paying much attention, drive under a lighted bridge when all of a sudden I see a 80lb dead dog laid out in the middle of my lane!
I'm driving 65mph and I have 1 second to react.. I decide to take it dead on so I don't mess up my wheels or suspension. BOOM! Car catches about 1 foot of air, and my exhaust is used as a meat grinder while I fly over the dead dog. Fog lights pop out and are attached only by the wires that light them. The look like strobe lights on either side of my car going down the highway. There is a loud consistent noise that sounds like I'm dragging the transmission.
I pull off and get out to find that the bumper is messed up, but not bad. My fender liners are hanging out, and my undercarriage liner is wrapped under itself, and that is what is causing the sound. Because I'm so low, I can't pull it out from underneath, so I have to get creative.
This next part I couldn't make up if I tried... so I slowly drive up an exit ramp and into a VERY expensive neighborhood and begin lifting the car up to get an idea of whats going on. This is 9pm on a friday and I'm on my way to a party dressed rather nice. I randomly have a dremel in my drunk, and realize if I can get power to the street, I can cut off the undercarriage shield which will allow me to drive the car.
I go knock on the house of a very nice lady, who runs a 100ft of extension cord out to the street and I begin to cut away and the plastic and metal that is still attached to the car. There is dog guts and blood everywhere, but 45 minutes later I have it off and lower the car back down.
I'm now covered in dog blood, guts, sweat and oil and look like I just killed a person. I go to the drug store to get some duct tape and begin to wrap the front bumper so the lip stays on the front bumper.
When I got to my party everyone just stopped talking... silence. They really did think I had killed someone or something.. I grabbed a beer and hopped in the shower.. I just started laughing at that point.. you have to with a story like that. :)
Some bad pictures of what I'm talking about:
and yes, that is dog guts and blood.... the underneath of the car looked WAYYYY more gruesome. Smelled like a Mongolian BBQ as well.
So I drove around like this for a month:

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NO less then a week after getting her dialed in, I'm driving down one of the cleanest stretches of highway in Dallas (I-75 near Mockingbird Ln).. I have never seen so much as a beer can roll across this road. That night was different... I'm cruising not paying much attention, drive under a lighted bridge when all of a sudden I see a 80lb dead dog laid out in the middle of my lane!
I'm driving 65mph and I have 1 second to react.. I decide to take it dead on so I don't mess up my wheels or suspension. BOOM! Car catches about 1 foot of air, and my exhaust is used as a meat grinder while I fly over the dead dog. Fog lights pop out and are attached only by the wires that light them. The look like strobe lights on either side of my car going down the highway. There is a loud consistent noise that sounds like I'm dragging the transmission.
I pull off and get out to find that the bumper is messed up, but not bad. My fender liners are hanging out, and my undercarriage liner is wrapped under itself, and that is what is causing the sound. Because I'm so low, I can't pull it out from underneath, so I have to get creative.
This next part I couldn't make up if I tried... so I slowly drive up an exit ramp and into a VERY expensive neighborhood and begin lifting the car up to get an idea of whats going on. This is 9pm on a friday and I'm on my way to a party dressed rather nice. I randomly have a dremel in my drunk, and realize if I can get power to the street, I can cut off the undercarriage shield which will allow me to drive the car.
I go knock on the house of a very nice lady, who runs a 100ft of extension cord out to the street and I begin to cut away and the plastic and metal that is still attached to the car. There is dog guts and blood everywhere, but 45 minutes later I have it off and lower the car back down.
I'm now covered in dog blood, guts, sweat and oil and look like I just killed a person. I go to the drug store to get some duct tape and begin to wrap the front bumper so the lip stays on the front bumper.
When I got to my party everyone just stopped talking... silence. They really did think I had killed someone or something.. I grabbed a beer and hopped in the shower.. I just started laughing at that point.. you have to with a story like that. :)
Some bad pictures of what I'm talking about:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0323.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0324.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0325.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0325-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0326.jpg[/IMG]
and yes, that is dog guts and blood.... the underneath of the car looked WAYYYY more gruesome. Smelled like a Mongolian BBQ as well.
So I drove around like this for a month:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0329.jpg[/IMG]
Finally said enough was enough, so I took it off and put it in the shop to get fixed and used one of Jeff's old white bumpers in the meantime:
From there, the Sharpie bumper came about and after 3 weeks, and 25 hours of hand drawn art, you have this:
Definitely was different and felt a sense of accomplishment when it was done. Found out though that you have to sand down a surface before you can put clearcoat on it.. I did not do this. Didn't think to. So there is no way to seal the sharpie. Which means it will fade if I leave it on.. so off it went and the blue bumper went back on.
At this point its been three months since I got new tires put on.. here are my front tires with about 5K miles on them:
Whats wrong you say?? Lots of tread left... nope.. look closer:
Yes, my friend... that is what a thin tire and -4 degrees of camber gets you.. they are SHOT after 3 months of driving... this is when its appropriate to say "you gotta pay to play..."
The rears were due to be flipped as well, but I ran out of time and my tire tech thought I had a couple 100 miles to go.. WRONG. 3 days later.. BLOWOUT:
What blowout Ben? Tire looks fine....
Ahh.. I see..
Here is what the tire looks like off... see that round hole? You would think that was a nail.. nope.. that is me literally running through every last ounce of rubber:
And the tires off the wheels... no nails... this is just -5 degrees of camber and me running through the rubber..
And fresh rubber... back up and running:

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Finally said enough was enough, so I took it off and put it in the shop to get fixed and used one of Jeff's old white bumpers in the meantime:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0337.jpg[/IMG]
From there, the Sharpie bumper came about and after 3 weeks, and 25 hours of hand drawn art, you have this:
[IMG]http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data//500/Ben62.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data//500/Ben111.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data//500/Ben9.jpg[/IMG]
Definitely was different and felt a sense of accomplishment when it was done. Found out though that you have to sand down a surface before you can put clearcoat on it.. I did not do this. Didn't think to. So there is no way to seal the sharpie. Which means it will fade if I leave it on.. so off it went and the blue bumper went back on.
At this point its been three months since I got new tires put on.. here are my front tires with about 5K miles on them:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0400.jpg[/IMG]
Whats wrong you say?? Lots of tread left... nope.. look closer:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0402.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0403.jpg[/IMG]
Yes, my friend... that is what a thin tire and -4 degrees of camber gets you.. they are SHOT after 3 months of driving... this is when its appropriate to say "you gotta pay to play..."
The rears were due to be flipped as well, but I ran out of time and my tire tech thought I had a couple 100 miles to go.. WRONG. 3 days later.. BLOWOUT:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0406.jpg[/IMG]
What blowout Ben? Tire looks fine....
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0407.jpg[/IMG]
Ahh.. I see..
Here is what the tire looks like off... see that round hole? You would think that was a nail.. nope.. that is me literally running through every last ounce of rubber:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0408.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0409.jpg[/IMG]
And the tires off the wheels... no nails... this is just -5 degrees of camber and me running through the rubber..
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0410.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0411.jpg[/IMG]
And fresh rubber... back up and running:
[IMG]http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/Ben882/IMG_0412.jpg[/IMG]
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And how she is as of two days ago:
[IMG]http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data//500/Ben64.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data//500/Ben67.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data//500/Ben66.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data//500/Ben65.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data//500/Ben70.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data//500/Ben68.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data//500/Ben69.jpg[/IMG]
Like I have said, its not easy driving this low, but it has sure been a fun adventure...
I will update this thread as more adventures come about... next stage is going lower and wider in the front :D
i just wore a two inch hole in my exhaust and i have ran over my fair share of animals so i feel your pain!i love how low you roll and i always wondered if you have problems with your uca's hitting and what coils you have. keep up with the dedication and do those red/ clear led 98 tails!!
i hope we can inspire eachother to keep doing the insane things that we do!
-Martin
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i just wore a two inch hole in my exhaust and i have ran over my fair share of animals so i feel your pain!i love how low you roll and i always wondered if you have problems with your uca's hitting and what coils you have. keep up with the dedication and do those red/ clear led 98 tails!!
i hope we can inspire eachother to keep doing the insane things that we do!
-Martin
i love story threads! :biggthumpup:
im a big fan of your car, hopefully ill get to see it at HIN dallas.
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i love story threads! :biggthumpup:
im a big fan of your car, hopefully ill get to see it at HIN dallas.
Martin-- thanks bro. I have told you from the get-go, you were part of my inspiration. You were rockin cool before it was hot.
Nick-- Hell ya your gonna see it in October... prepare to be treated. Us Dallas boys are gonna show the H-town crew some good ol southern hospitality! Hope y'all are down.
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Martin-- thanks bro. I have told you from the get-go, you were part of my inspiration. You were rockin cool before it was hot.
Nick-- Hell ya your gonna see it in October... prepare to be treated. Us Dallas boys are gonna show the H-town crew some good ol southern hospitality! Hope y'all are down.
reppin for TEXUS!!!!!!!! if u ever make it down to san antonio hit me up. theres me and 3 other people reppin the vip car scene here. think there would be more then that in a city as big as SA right? lol. its my car

maybe could get something together
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reppin for TEXUS!!!!!!!! if u ever make it down to san antonio hit me up. theres me and 3 other people reppin the vip car scene here. think there would be more then that in a city as big as SA right? lol. its my car[IMG]http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n219/importedkaos/lex11.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n219/importedkaos/linda8.jpg[/IMG]
maybe could get something together
yeah ill def be coming up with some of the RE guys. hopefully we can hurry up and pack up friday night and make it out and have a few drinks.
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yeah ill def be coming up with some of the RE guys. hopefully we can hurry up and pack up friday night and make it out and have a few drinks.
cars clean man, always digged the molded TTE lip.
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cars clean man, always digged the molded TTE lip.
Nice write up & sick car keep up the good work reppin VIP.
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Nice write up & sick car keep up the good work reppin VIP.
damn thats crazy! .... loving the car.
especially the hand designed bumper! let me know if you wanna sell it! hehe...
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damn thats crazy! .... loving the car.
especially the hand designed bumper! let me know if you wanna sell it! hehe...
Tires are no joke. Especially when your VIP car is your daily driver. =)
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Tires are no joke. Especially when your VIP car is your daily driver. =)
2 months for my rears.
I really need to roll higher
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2 months for my rears.
I really need to roll higher
damn im getting kinda scared now hahaha, but low is the only way to go. LOOKS SICK though man
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damn im getting kinda scared now hahaha, but low is the only way to go. LOOKS SICK though man
Great write up. To obtain those final few mm's, you have to go through hell and dish out a lot of money not only just to get there but to be able to drive the car at that hight. It is easy to stop and lift your car after going through some issues. It is not as easy to try to learn from your mistakes and get over your misfortunate incidents in order to get the car lower. It takes heart.
No disrespect to anyone on air suspension, you all can drop your cars with the hit of a switch so I never cared for driving height threads or pics. Although coilover guys can drop their cars for pics as well, it is not as easy as a hit of a switch.
You're a hardcore vip guy in my book regardless of the amount of mods you currently have.
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Great write up. To obtain those final few mm's, you have to go through hell and dish out a lot of money not only just to get there but to be able to drive the car at that hight. It is easy to stop and lift your car after going through some issues. It is not as easy to try to learn from your mistakes and get over your misfortunate incidents in order to get the car lower. It takes heart.
No disrespect to anyone on air suspension, you all can drop your cars with the hit of a switch so I never cared for driving height threads or pics. Although coilover guys can drop their cars for pics as well, it is not as easy as a hit of a switch.
You're a hardcore vip guy in my book regardless of the amount of mods you currently have.
very good post, nice detail mate.
i respect the ability to roll that low but just am not personally keen enough to willingly accept bent rims and blow outs, hence i have softer fitment, less stretch & not quite as low :P guys who drive in the full knowledge that things are going to fail every couple of months certainly deserve all the respect they get :)
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very good post, nice detail mate.
i respect the ability to roll that low but just am not personally keen enough to willingly accept bent rims and blow outs, hence i have softer fitment, less stretch & not quite as low :P guys who drive in the full knowledge that things are going to fail every couple of months certainly deserve all the respect they get :)
Very nice ride! Glad I was able to put a face to the name last weekend! :biggthumpup:
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Very nice ride! Glad I was able to put a face to the name last weekend! :biggthumpup:
Glad to see the "story" great pics and to see how much you have learned on the way to get the look you really want ,
i like it and its a very clean Gs , I know they make air suspension so i wanted life to be easier for me , and i see cups in your future when your done with this ! haha we'll see thou
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Glad to see the "story" great pics and to see how much you have learned on the way to get the look you really want ,
i like it and its a very clean Gs , I know they make air suspension so i wanted life to be easier for me , and i see cups in your future when your done with this ! haha we'll see thou
you have earned that look ,
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you have earned that look ,
PROJECTGS3;265762 wrote:cars clean man, always digged the molded TTE lip.
Thank you sir.
tommiedred;265764 wrote:Nice write up & sick car keep up the good work reppin VIP.
Doing my best on a daily basis. :biggthumpup:
crazyboi;265773 wrote:damn thats crazy! .... loving the car.
especially the hand designed bumper! let me know if you wanna sell it! hehe...
Sure thing holmes.
chrispy;265776 wrote:Tires are no joke. Especially when your VIP car is your daily driver. =)
You know this all too well Chris... I need to get a tire sponsor. :pat:
vip tint+glass;265781 wrote:2 months for my rears.
I really need to roll higher
I'm gonna try to start flipping mine. At -5 degrees, I should be able to get a lil more life out of it.. hopefully.
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[QUOTE=PROJECTGS3;265762]cars clean man, always digged the molded TTE lip.[/QUOTE]
Thank you sir.
[QUOTE=tommiedred;265764]Nice write up & sick car keep up the good work reppin VIP.[/QUOTE]
Doing my best on a daily basis. :biggthumpup:
[QUOTE=crazyboi;265773]damn thats crazy! .... loving the car.
especially the hand designed bumper! let me know if you wanna sell it! hehe...[/QUOTE]
Sure thing holmes.
[QUOTE=chrispy;265776]Tires are no joke. Especially when your VIP car is your daily driver. =)[/QUOTE]
You know this all too well Chris... I need to get a tire sponsor. :pat:
[QUOTE=vip tint+glass;265781]2 months for my rears.
I really need to roll higher[/QUOTE]
I'm gonna try to start flipping mine. At -5 degrees, I should be able to get a lil more life out of it.. hopefully.
Bippu PxrLex;265852 wrote:Glad to see the "story" great pics and to see how much you have learned on the way to get the look you really want ,
i like it and its a very clean Gs , I know they make air suspension so i wanted life to be easier for me , and i see cups in your future when your done with this ! haha we'll see thou
Ha, it does kinda look like I'm asking for it with coils doesn't it? I'm certainly not opposed to adjustable suspension, but I drive very aggressively (hard to believe I know) and like the stiffness.
If I ever drop some serious money into this car, an adjustable suspension will happen.. maybe even juice after riding in Brandon's Merc :dance:
OCKlasse;265831 wrote:Very nice ride! Glad I was able to put a face to the name last weekend! :biggthumpup:
Speaking of... bro really appreciate you allowing me to see the setup and ride in it. Great meeting you! Look forward to seeing you again in November!
Side note: Anyone who has ruled out ever being juiced should go meet up with Brandon and ride in his car. Would'nt have believed it if I had not ridden in it. A-mazing.
ant_jzs160;265805 wrote:very good post, nice detail mate.
i respect the ability to roll that low but just am not personally keen enough to willingly accept bent rims and blow outs, hence i have softer fitment, less stretch & not quite as low :P guys who drive in the full knowledge that things are going to fail every couple of months certainly deserve all the respect they get :)
Ant- It ain't for everybody I will tell you that right now. Looking back on the stories above, there is a sense of accomplishment and pride. Trust me though, with all that accomplishment was a LOT of headaches and all you can do is laugh and say "you chose this, so work with it."
This is the "lifestyle" to me. Not the fancy hood ornaments or the hand stitched pillows (allow they are very cool)... its about pushing the envelope and making people double take and wonder how its possible. This is by far the most fun and challenging car I have owned and I only see more stories to come . :biggthumpup:
widebody_Q;265798 wrote:Great write up. To obtain those final few mm's, you have to go through hell and dish out a lot of money not only just to get there but to be able to drive the car at that hight. It is easy to stop and lift your car after going through some issues. It is not as easy to try to learn from your mistakes and get over your misfortunate incidents in order to get the car lower. It takes heart.
No disrespect to anyone on air suspension, you all can drop your cars with the hit of a switch so I never cared for driving height threads or pics. Although coilover guys can drop their cars for pics as well, it is not as easy as a hit of a switch.
You're a hardcore vip guy in my book regardless of the amount of mods you currently have.
Agi-- The compliment is greatly appreciated, especially coming from an individual who not only has put a lot of sweat and $$ into his car, but despite having adjustable suspension chooses to roll low cause you can. I don't know that I could ride low in a car as nice as yours, but maybe that is just part of the evolution.
I think what has made VIP hardcore in Japan is the fact that these guys dump 10's of 1k's into their luxury cars, and then daily them at a few inches off the ground. People already ask, "why would you throw in a lot of money into a car that isn't going to retain its value?" Doesn't make sense to them. Now, on top of that, to be driving at a height where things will inevitably break on TOP OF throwing money into a car that won't retain its value? Very very few car guys even get it.
That's what its about for me. Even if I ever get adjustable suspension, it will be with the idea of riding even lower then if I had just coils. VIP ain't fun to me if I'm not low. I'm encouraged to know that I'm not alone.
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[QUOTE=Bippu PxrLex;265852]Glad to see the "story" great pics and to see how much you have learned on the way to get the look you really want ,
i like it and its a very clean Gs , I know they make air suspension so i wanted life to be easier for me , and i see cups in your future when your done with this ! haha we'll see thou[/QUOTE]
Ha, it does kinda look like I'm asking for it with coils doesn't it? I'm certainly not opposed to adjustable suspension, but I drive very aggressively (hard to believe I know) and like the stiffness.
If I ever drop some serious money into this car, an adjustable suspension will happen.. maybe even juice after riding in Brandon's Merc :dance:
[QUOTE=OCKlasse;265831]Very nice ride! Glad I was able to put a face to the name last weekend! :biggthumpup:[/QUOTE]
Speaking of... bro really appreciate you allowing me to see the setup and ride in it. Great meeting you! Look forward to seeing you again in November!
Side note: Anyone who has ruled out ever being juiced should go meet up with Brandon and ride in his car. Would'nt have believed it if I had not ridden in it. A-mazing.
[QUOTE=ant_jzs160;265805]very good post, nice detail mate.
i respect the ability to roll that low but just am not personally keen enough to willingly accept bent rims and blow outs, hence i have softer fitment, less stretch & not quite as low :P guys who drive in the full knowledge that things are going to fail every couple of months certainly deserve all the respect they get :)[/QUOTE]
Ant- It ain't for everybody I will tell you that right now. Looking back on the stories above, there is a sense of accomplishment and pride. Trust me though, with all that accomplishment was a LOT of headaches and all you can do is laugh and say "you chose this, so work with it."
This is the "lifestyle" to me. Not the fancy hood ornaments or the hand stitched pillows (allow they are very cool)... its about pushing the envelope and making people double take and wonder how its possible. This is by far the most fun and challenging car I have owned and I only see more stories to come . :biggthumpup:
[QUOTE=widebody_Q;265798]Great write up. To obtain those final few mm's, you have to go through hell and dish out a lot of money not only just to get there but to be able to drive the car at that hight. It is easy to stop and lift your car after going through some issues. It is not as easy to try to learn from your mistakes and get over your misfortunate incidents in order to get the car lower. It takes heart.
No disrespect to anyone on air suspension, you all can drop your cars with the hit of a switch so I never cared for driving height threads or pics. Although coilover guys can drop their cars for pics as well, it is not as easy as a hit of a switch.
You're a hardcore vip guy in my book regardless of the amount of mods you currently have.[/QUOTE]
Agi-- The compliment is greatly appreciated, especially coming from an individual who not only has put a lot of sweat and $$ into his car, but despite having adjustable suspension chooses to roll low cause you can. I don't know that I could ride low in a car as nice as yours, but maybe that is just part of the evolution.
I think what has made VIP hardcore in Japan is the fact that these guys dump 10's of 1k's into their luxury cars, and then daily them at a few inches off the ground. People already ask, "why would you throw in a lot of money into a car that isn't going to retain its value?" Doesn't make sense to them. Now, on top of that, to be driving at a height where things will inevitably break on TOP OF throwing money into a car that won't retain its value? Very very few car guys even get it.
That's what its about for me. Even if I ever get adjustable suspension, it will be with the idea of riding even lower then if I had just coils. VIP ain't fun to me if I'm not low. I'm encouraged to know that I'm not alone.
i like this wheel better.................................................JK haha

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i like this wheel better.................................................JK haha
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Your alignment looks off judging by the toe wear. You should also flip your tires.
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Your alignment looks off judging by the toe wear. You should also flip your tires.
BEnxD;266197 wrote:Your alignment looks off judging by the toe wear. You should also flip your tires.
+1 -- i've been getting 4k out of a side, and there's still a lot of meat on the sidewall. -7* here =X, so i know your pain haha
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[QUOTE=BEnxD;266197]Your alignment looks off judging by the toe wear. You should also flip your tires.[/QUOTE]
+1 -- i've been getting 4k out of a side, and there's still a lot of meat on the sidewall. -7* here =X, so i know your pain haha
Very nice write up. Great to see the progress and work it took to get such a sick stance. I'll be working on my ride trying to get the fronts lower and little more stretch on the tires. I sit fender to lip right now in the rear but I need the fronts to be the same. Good work man.
-Smitty
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Very nice write up. Great to see the progress and work it took to get such a sick stance. I'll be working on my ride trying to get the fronts lower and little more stretch on the tires. I sit fender to lip right now in the rear but I need the fronts to be the same. Good work man.
-Smitty
OMG talk about adventure! That was pretty intense and kind of reminded me of everything I went through as well...
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OMG talk about adventure! That was pretty intense and kind of reminded me of everything I went through as well...