Thread #18542

Am I crazy to want to go to coilovers? I have air-sus now

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oh_lolAugust 24, 2009
#265863

Am I crazy to want to go to coilovers? I have air-sus now

I have a Celsior and have factory air suspension. There is nothing wrong with it, but I feel it is limiting how low I can drive around. It is too soft to ride low, and it is common to bottom-out or scrape when going through dips and the like in the road.

If I changed to coil-overs, I'll have basically a permanent ride height. By sacrificing my air-suspension, I can ride low(er) as coil-overs will have the correct spring rates, damping etc.
But in saying that, I do lose on the fly adjustability of air-suspension.

Talk me in or out of going to coilovers!
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I have a Celsior and have factory air suspension. There is nothing wrong with it, but I feel it is limiting how low I can drive around. It is too soft to ride low, and it is common to bottom-out or scrape when going through dips and the like in the road.

If I changed to coil-overs, I'll have basically a permanent ride height. By sacrificing my air-suspension, I can ride low(er) as coil-overs will have the correct spring rates, damping etc. 
But in saying that, I do lose on the fly adjustability of air-suspension.

Talk me in or out of going to coilovers!
DominikAugust 24, 2009
#265866
Factory air vs Coilovers?

DEFINITELY coilovers...


Factory air was the main reason i went against all forms of air suspension for so long. Factory air is unreliable, overly soft and really slow. And it can burst on these old cars.

I still prefer coilovers, but i understand that these days aftermarket air suspension can be set up almost as stiff as good coilovers. I would go with some coilovers, and look into aerosport bags or cups to go over the coils later.
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Factory air vs Coilovers? 
 
DEFINITELY coilovers...
 
 
Factory air was the main reason i went against all forms of air suspension for so long. Factory air is unreliable, overly soft and really slow. And it can burst on these old cars.
 
I still prefer coilovers, but i understand that these days aftermarket air suspension can be set up almost as stiff as good coilovers. I would go with some coilovers, and look into aerosport bags or cups to go over the coils later.
Yokotas13August 24, 2009
#265867
Factory air is horrible
coilovers for sure
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Factory air is horrible
coilovers for sure
oh_lolAugust 24, 2009
#265868
Hey Dom I remember you saying that!

Also I forgot to mention aftermarket air as well. I have built a Toyota Surf with air-suspension before so I have knowledge and experience with aftermarket air too, but still......air really is only for the adjustability right.
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Hey Dom I remember you saying that!

Also I forgot to mention aftermarket air as well. I have built a Toyota Surf with air-suspension before so I have knowledge and experience with aftermarket air too, but still......air really is only for the adjustability right.
Yokotas13August 24, 2009
#265879
nope not at all
air is a performance item nowadays

I can ride an inch of the ground, and still drive it like i stole it. I drove my cedric literally an inch of the ground, and was able to drift around diakoku futo upa nd down ramps multiple times with no problem.

Its more in the setup of the system you purchase than anything.
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nope not at all
air is a performance item nowadays
 
I can ride an inch of the ground, and still drive it like i stole it. I drove my cedric literally an inch of the ground, and was able to drift around diakoku futo upa nd down ramps multiple times with no problem.
 
Its more in the setup of the system you purchase than anything.
dRo15August 24, 2009
#265935
^^^ what air suspension were you using? What kinda height were you getting at full lock up?
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^^^ what air suspension were you using? What kinda height were you getting at full lock up?
excluesiveonezAugust 24, 2009
#265936
my ksport air can get pretty low and still maintain a solid ride.
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my ksport air can get pretty low and still maintain a solid ride.
Yokotas13August 25, 2009
#265999
dRo15;265935 wrote:^^^ what air suspension were you using? What kinda height were you getting at full lock up?

universal air on coilovers.

3 nad a half inches ish on full up from the ground
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[QUOTE=dRo15;265935]^^^ what air suspension were you using? What kinda height were you getting at full lock up?[/QUOTE]
universal air on coilovers.

3 nad a half inches ish on full up from the ground
xxjustimajinxxAugust 25, 2009
#266024
get a air cup set up... you still have a coilover and a air set up :) i got one on my GS its great!!
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get a air cup set up... you still have a coilover and a air set up :) i got one on my GS its great!!
Yokotas13August 25, 2009
#266025
cups only work if you arent very low to begin with.
IE wimp
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cups only work if you arent very low to begin with.
IE wimp
4play4drAugust 26, 2009
#266297
cups would be nice to have..i dont care bout parking lower..id get the cups so i can get up my damn driveway easier haha
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cups would be nice to have..i dont care bout parking lower..id get the cups so i can get up my damn driveway easier haha
ant_jzs160August 26, 2009
#266298
get coilovers, dont be weak though go nice and hard on the spring rates cause once you put them in you will find yourself going lower ..and lower... and lower... and you need it hard haha
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get coilovers, dont be weak though go nice and hard on the spring rates cause once you put them in you will find yourself going lower ..and lower... and lower... and you need it hard haha
oh_lolAugust 26, 2009
#266365
Yokotas13;265999 wrote:universal air on coilovers.

3 nad a half inches ish on full up from the ground


Although I've never experienced a car with coilovers and bags, I'd say that's why you could do that, as opposed to a car with just airbags (which I've experienced)?

ant_jzs160;266298 wrote:get coilovers, dont be weak though go nice and hard on the spring rates cause once you put them in you will find yourself going lower ..and lower... and lower... and you need it hard haha


I think I'm leaning more and more to coilovers. What are you running? Hard to find anything locally :sad:
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[QUOTE=Yokotas13;265999]universal air on coilovers.

3 nad a half inches ish on full up from the ground[/QUOTE]

Although I've never experienced a car with coilovers and bags, I'd say that's why you could do that, as opposed to a car with just airbags (which I've experienced)?

[QUOTE=ant_jzs160;266298]get coilovers, dont be weak though go nice and hard on the spring rates cause once you put them in you will find yourself going lower ..and lower... and lower... and you need it hard haha[/QUOTE]

I think I'm leaning more and more to coilovers. What are you running? Hard to find anything locally :sad:
ant_jzs160August 31, 2009
#267244
yeah no point looking local for anything for these cars :P i buy my stuff through importers such as jesse streeter (www.jessestreeter.com)

i'm running insurance group but theyre pretty soft, i would recommend JIC
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yeah no point looking local for anything for these cars :P i buy my stuff through importers such as jesse streeter ([URL="http://www.jessestreeter.com"]www.jessestreeter.com[/URL])
 
i'm running insurance group but theyre pretty soft, i would recommend JIC
JVTSeptember 2, 2009
#267791
All depends what you are trying to make your ride into...

For Showcar - definitely bags! Cuz its crazy to see the car roll-in 2" high, and within matter of secs. the tires go down so low, the frame is kissn the ground.

For Street car - coilovers; plus less likely to breakdown
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All depends what you are trying to make your ride into...
 
For Showcar - definitely bags! Cuz its crazy to see the car roll-in 2" high, and within matter of secs. the tires go down so low, the frame is kissn the ground.     
 
For Street car - coilovers; plus less likely to breakdown
oh_lolSeptember 3, 2009
#268001
ant_jzs160;267244 wrote:yeah no point looking local for anything for these cars :P i buy my stuff through importers such as jesse streeter (www.jessestreeter.com)

i'm running insurance group but theyre pretty soft, i would recommend JIC


No probs. I'll look into it.
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[QUOTE=ant_jzs160;267244]yeah no point looking local for anything for these cars :P i buy my stuff through importers such as jesse streeter ([URL="http://www.jessestreeter.com"]www.jessestreeter.com[/URL])
 
i'm running insurance group but theyre pretty soft, i would recommend JIC[/QUOTE]

No probs. I'll look into it.