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Little Rendering of my Next Project...Comments?

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OCKlasseOctober 22, 2009
#277991

Little Rendering of my Next Project...Comments?

Originally, I wanted to do a 215 as my next car. The more I thought about it, it just wouldn't be a practical car for me. Detailing is an important extra source of revenue for me, and trying to fit all of my detailing supplies into the CL would be cumbersome.

That being said, I have decided that I would like to do a 211 wagon (E500 preferably). It allows me to easily throw all of my stuff in the trunk...and it remains a fairly untouched car. I'm thinking white/black or black/black. If I went with a black exterior, it would have to be MINT.

Here is the proposed mod list:

- KW V3 coilovers
- Hydroholics hydraulic lift system (in development) This basically allows the car to ride 100% on the coilovers but have a 2.5" change in height adjustment via a switch inside the car. The car will be parked with the coilovers cranked all the way down and then drive at a nice lowered height
- 20" Leon Hardiritt Ordens...aggressive! 20 * 9.5 front and 20 * 11 rear
- E55 brakes
- Lip kit perhaps?
- Quad exhaust

Let me know your comments. Probably about a year away, but I'm excited about it!

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Originally, I wanted to do a 215 as my next car. The more I thought about it, it just wouldn't be a practical car for me. Detailing is an important extra source of revenue for me, and trying to fit all of my detailing supplies into the CL would be cumbersome.

That being said, I have decided that I would like to do a 211 wagon (E500 preferably). It allows me to easily throw all of my stuff in the trunk...and it remains a fairly untouched car. I'm thinking white/black or black/black. If I went with a black exterior, it would have to be MINT. 

Here is the proposed mod list:

- KW V3 coilovers
- Hydroholics hydraulic lift system (in development) This basically allows the car to ride 100% on the coilovers but have a 2.5" change in height adjustment via a switch inside the car.  The car will be parked with the coilovers cranked all the way down and then drive at a nice lowered height 
- 20" Leon Hardiritt Ordens...aggressive! 20 * 9.5 front and 20 * 11 rear
- E55 brakes
- Lip kit perhaps?
- Quad exhaust

Let me know your comments. Probably about a year away, but I'm excited about it!

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DominikOctober 22, 2009
#277993
Damn.... looks hot!

That suspension system sounds interesting too. Is that going to be a juiced version of the air cup kit?
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Damn.... looks hot!
 
That suspension system sounds interesting too. Is that going to be a juiced version of the air cup kit?
golfkid777October 22, 2009
#277998
Similar system has been done on a mk3 jetta. Looks like a nice way to go!! And E-Wagons make me smile!! I have lusted for a e55 variant for many years!!
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Similar system has been done on a mk3 jetta.  Looks like a nice way to go!! And E-Wagons make me smile!!  I have lusted for a e55 variant for many years!!
JN.FYCOctober 22, 2009
#278012
reminds me of a sig that "one ton vip" had a while back.
Silver wagon with Ordens
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reminds me of a sig that "one ton vip" had a while back.
Silver wagon with Ordens
shawnthemonsterOctober 23, 2009
#278020
welcome to the world of wagons :)
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welcome to the world of wagons :)
NeteruOctober 23, 2009
#278024
i hate wagons, but if your future project truly resembles that rendering, this could potentially be dope looking.


make it happen.
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i hate wagons, but if your future project truly resembles that rendering, this could potentially be dope looking.


make it happen.
SanDiegoG35October 23, 2009
#278060
looks sick, maybe change the fogs out with the s550 fogs i think itll look sick
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looks sick, maybe change the fogs out with the s550 fogs i think itll look sick
MR.JOctober 23, 2009
#278081
yes!!!

do it !

MB wagons are so sick!
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yes!!!
 
do it !
 
MB wagons are so sick!
blackaneseOctober 23, 2009
#278086
I love wagons, hope this project comes to a reality
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I love wagons, hope this project comes to a reality
OCKlasseOctober 23, 2009
#278089
Thanks for the comments guys! It will definitely be sure to impress, I promise! :biggthumpup:

golfkid777;277998 wrote:Similar system has been done on a mk3 jetta.


Yeah, his setup is insane! Hydroholics pumps and manifold, too! :biggthumpup:

Damn.... looks hot!

That suspension system sounds interesting too. Is that going to be a juiced version of the air cup kit?
Well, it's similar to the air cup kit but better IMO.

Basically, the coils will be cranked down all-the-way and that will be my "park" height. I then use the lift to give me an additional few inches and that will be my drive height.

What makes hydraulics cool in this scenario is that the car's suspension will be 100% coilover. Since hydraulic fluid does not compress, and I will not be running accumulators, the fluid has nowhere to go....thus the hydraulics have no effect on the car's ride or handling.

The performance of coilovers with the adjustability of hydraulics. The best of all worlds :biggthumpup:
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Thanks for the comments guys! It will definitely be sure to impress, I promise! :biggthumpup:

[QUOTE=golfkid777;277998]Similar system has been done on a mk3 jetta.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, his setup is insane! Hydroholics pumps and manifold, too! :biggthumpup:

[QUOTE]                       Damn.... looks hot!
 
That suspension system sounds interesting too. Is that going to be a juiced version of the air cup kit?     [/QUOTE]Well, it's similar to the air cup kit but better IMO.

Basically, the coils will be cranked down all-the-way and that will be my "park" height. I then use the lift to give me an additional few inches and that will be my drive height.

What makes hydraulics cool in this scenario is that the car's suspension will be 100% coilover. Since hydraulic fluid does not compress, and I will not be running accumulators, the fluid has nowhere to go....thus the hydraulics have no effect on the car's ride or handling.

The performance of coilovers with the adjustability of hydraulics. The best of all worlds :biggthumpup:
ALEXTHESUS*PECTOctober 23, 2009
#278092
that setup would be killer!

you have to do it now!
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that setup would be killer!

you have to do it now!
LuxOctober 23, 2009
#278168
I can always count on you for great Merc advice and ideas. I'm stoked for the next project man:biggthumpup: Rendering looks really aggressive, love to see it come to fruition.

Do you think 20s will be too aggressive? I'd like to see that negative camber that you've got on the rear done in real life haha.

White with black interior for sure.

Right now the W211s are going for anywhere between 21k and 27k on Ebay...just a fun fact :rules:

Definitely gonna keep my eye on this one.
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I can always count on you for great Merc advice and ideas. I'm stoked for the next project man:biggthumpup: Rendering looks really aggressive, love to see it come to fruition. 

Do you think 20s will be too aggressive? I'd like to see that negative camber that you've got on the rear done in real life haha.

White with black interior for sure.

Right now the W211s are going for anywhere between 21k and 27k on Ebay...just a fun fact :rules:

Definitely gonna keep my eye on this one.
TabakaOctober 23, 2009
#278174
211 wagons FTW!

A facelift E430 or E55 W210 wagon would save you some major bux though....
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211 wagons FTW! 
 
A facelift E430 or E55 W210 wagon would save you some major bux though....
NELSON09October 23, 2009
#278187
Yes, yes, yes and that suspension is WIN. White on black is my vote.
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Yes, yes, yes and that suspension is WIN. White on black is my vote.
OCKlasseOctober 23, 2009
#278194
Tabaka;278174 wrote:211 wagons FTW!

A facelift E430 or E55 W210 wagon would save you some major bux though....


Don't think they brought the 210 E55 wagon to the states... :dunno:
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[QUOTE=Tabaka;278174]211 wagons FTW! 
 
A facelift E430 or E55 W210 wagon would save you some major bux though....[/QUOTE]

Don't think they brought the 210 E55 wagon to the states... :dunno:
OCKlasseOctober 23, 2009
#278197
The slight little hiccup I will be facing is that all 211 wagons, regardless of model, come with air in the rear. My hope is that this can easily swapped for standard coils, and if there is a little fabrication necessary, so be it.

I'm not too worried about fault codes, as I know someone with Star Diagnostics and they can simply remove the "airmatic" from the car's computer altogether.
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The slight little hiccup I will be facing is that all 211 wagons, regardless of model, come with air in the rear. My hope is that this can easily swapped for standard coils, and if there is a little fabrication necessary, so be it. 

I'm not too worried about fault codes, as I know someone with Star Diagnostics and they can simply remove the "airmatic" from the car's computer altogether.
TabakaOctober 23, 2009
#278208
OCKlasse;278194 wrote:Don't think they brought the 210 E55 wagon to the states... :dunno:


I think you're right. I've seen some Euro ones on the benz forums so I'm probably mistaken.

I know there are AMG 211 wagons in the US though. There was a sweet used E63 Wagon at a local Lexus dealer for a while.
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[QUOTE=OCKlasse;278194]Don't think they brought the 210 E55 wagon to the states... :dunno:[/QUOTE]
 
I think you're right. I've seen some Euro ones on the benz forums so I'm probably mistaken. 
 
I know there are AMG 211 wagons in the US though. There was a sweet used E63 Wagon at a local Lexus dealer for a while.
OCKlasseOctober 23, 2009
#278213
Tabaka;278208 wrote:I think you're right. I've seen some Euro ones on the benz forums so I'm probably mistaken.

I know there are AMG 211 wagons in the US though. There was a sweet used E63 Wagon at a local Lexus dealer for a while.


Yeah, the 55k wagons are still bringing well into $45k. Too much for me :pat:
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[QUOTE=Tabaka;278208]I think you're right. I've seen some Euro ones on the benz forums so I'm probably mistaken. 
 
I know there are AMG 211 wagons in the US though. There was a sweet used E63 Wagon at a local Lexus dealer for a while.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the 55k wagons are still bringing well into $45k.  Too much for me :pat:
nunzo.October 23, 2009
#278214
you mean you're doing this ;)

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you mean you're doing this ;)

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nunzo.October 23, 2009
#278215
nunzo.;278214 wrote:you mean you're doing this ;)

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and while that isnt my setup, i happen to enjoy dailying a slammed german wagon :)

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[QUOTE=nunzo.;278214]you mean you're doing this ;)

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and while that isnt my setup, i happen to enjoy dailying a slammed german wagon :)

[IMG]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3478/3248228853_f13c575ca6_o.jpg[/IMG]
OCKlasseOctober 23, 2009
#278241
nunzo.;278214 wrote:you mean you're doing this ;)

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Sort of...

That is a completely custom setup. What I am doing is designing a hydraulic cup which threads on to a coilover sleeve. 100% bolt-on.
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[QUOTE=nunzo.;278214]you mean you're doing this ;)
 
[IMG]http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq280/afazz65/plumbing/100_1256.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
 
Sort of...
 
That is a completely custom setup. What I am doing is designing a hydraulic cup which threads on to a coilover sleeve. 100% bolt-on.
elpresidenteOctober 24, 2009
#278245
Haha..thumbs up here.
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Haha..thumbs up here.
AME_VIPOctober 24, 2009
#278251
Oh sick. I definitely thought on One Ton's sig as well. Where did he go??
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Oh sick.  I definitely thought on One Ton's sig as well.  Where did he go??
nunzo.October 24, 2009
#278353
OCKlasse;278241 wrote:Sort of...

That is a completely custom setup. What I am doing is designing a hydraulic cup which threads on to a coilover sleeve. 100% bolt-on.



so basically a sleeve over the coil sleeve, with a double o-ring sealed cup (on each end, so 4 seals), and a spring mount at the top for a shorter coil?
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[QUOTE=OCKlasse;278241]Sort of...
 
That is a completely custom setup. What I am doing is designing a hydraulic cup which threads on to a coilover sleeve. 100% bolt-on.[/QUOTE]


so basically a sleeve over the coil sleeve, with a double o-ring sealed cup (on each end, so 4 seals), and a spring mount at the top for a shorter coil?
OCKlasseOctober 24, 2009
#278364
nunzo.;278353 wrote:so basically a sleeve over the coil sleeve, with a double o-ring sealed cup (on each end, so 4 seals), and a spring mount at the top for a shorter coil?


Kinda...have it sketched out. I'm not in town this weekend, when I get back I will draw up the schematics for you :biggthumpup:

Won't require a shorter coil though (I don't think...if it gets low enough for my fancy)
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[QUOTE=nunzo.;278353]so basically a sleeve over the coil sleeve, with a double o-ring sealed cup (on each end, so 4 seals), and a spring mount at the top for a shorter coil?[/QUOTE]

Kinda...have it sketched out. I'm not in town this weekend, when I get back I will draw up the schematics for you :biggthumpup:

Won't require a shorter coil though (I don't think...if it gets low enough for my fancy)
nunzo.October 25, 2009
#278415
sounds good, if i'm bored i'll draw it up in solidworks
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sounds good, if i'm bored i'll draw it up in solidworks
chrispyOctober 25, 2009
#278503
Cool! I've always wanted to build an E-Class w211 but I'm afraid of German cars. The reason why I have money for mods is because nothing breaks on my Lexus. :P

I look forward to your build.
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Cool! I've always wanted to build an E-Class w211 but I'm afraid of German cars. The reason why I have money for mods is because nothing breaks on my Lexus. :P

I look forward to your build.
hellah freshOctober 28, 2009
#278925
nunzo.;278214 wrote:you mean you're doing this ;)

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Do they make those for any make and model? i have a 93 500SEL.
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[QUOTE=nunzo.;278214]you mean you're doing this ;)

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Do they make those for any make and model? i have a 93 500SEL.
nunzo.October 28, 2009
#278926
nope, that's a custom setup designed and fabbed by my guy anthony.
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nope, that's a custom setup designed and fabbed by my guy anthony.
hellah freshOctober 30, 2009
#279316
^^^ Damn nice right there. Well now that i think about it that will not work on my car anyways... my springs and shocks are separate from each other... Hmmmm
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^^^ Damn nice right there. Well now that i think about it that will not work on my car anyways... my springs and shocks are separate from each other... Hmmmm
OCKlasseOctober 30, 2009
#279331
hellah fresh;279316 wrote:^^^ Damn nice right there. Well now that i think about it that will not work on my car anyways... my springs and shocks are separate from each other... Hmmmm


Yeah, you should do just straight hydraulic like I have on my car :biggthumpup:
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[QUOTE=hellah fresh;279316]^^^ Damn nice right there. Well now that i think about it that will not work on my car anyways... my springs and shocks are separate from each other... Hmmmm[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you should do just straight hydraulic like I have on my car :biggthumpup:
mista808October 31, 2009
#279498
right on... another wagon lover... an E-class would be out of my money range, i was looking for a E39 5-series wagon for my girlfriend to replace her B5 A4 avant, but i ended up getting her an 8P A3... my brothers got a B5 passat wagon sitting on carlssons.
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my dream wagon would either be a E39 5-series, or a C5 A6 wagon.....
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right on... another wagon lover... an E-class would be out of my money range, i was looking for a E39 5-series wagon for my girlfriend to replace her B5 A4 avant, but i ended up getting her an 8P A3... my brothers got a B5 passat wagon sitting on carlssons.
[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/DnBjetta/12647.jpg[/IMG]
 
my dream wagon would either be a E39 5-series, or a  C5 A6 wagon.....
hellah freshNovember 2, 2009
#279813
OCKlasse;279331 wrote:Yeah, you should do just straight hydraulic like I have on my car :biggthumpup:


What company did you go thru ordering bags? Direct bolt on?
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[QUOTE=OCKlasse;279331]Yeah, you should do just straight hydraulic like I have on my car :biggthumpup:[/QUOTE]

What company did you go thru ordering bags? Direct bolt on?
nunzo.November 3, 2009
#279842
i hate to threadjack, but i love lowered wagons too :D . here's my passat on air (rear now sits 3" lower)

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i hate to threadjack, but i love lowered wagons too :D .  here's my passat on air (rear now sits 3" lower)

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OCKlasseNovember 3, 2009
#280050
hellah fresh;279813 wrote:What company did you go thru ordering bags? Direct bolt on?


Well, it's hydraulics. It uses oil through a cylinder and not "bags."

It's as bolt-in as you'll get for our cars...
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[QUOTE=hellah fresh;279813]What company did you go thru ordering bags? Direct bolt on?[/QUOTE]

Well, it's hydraulics. It uses oil through a cylinder and not "bags."

It's as bolt-in as you'll get for our cars...
BaoserNovember 5, 2009
#280490
HOLY SHIET DAT IS HOOOOORRRDDDD
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HOLY SHIET DAT IS HOOOOORRRDDDD
MR.JNovember 8, 2009
#280830
mista808;279498 wrote:
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most def a nice grocery get'r for wifey
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most def a nice grocery get'r for wifey