Firearms thread!

Chat, brag, show off, whatever you want, as long as it is about guns!

I'm about to go fire off my new Glock 30 (45acp w00t!) tomorrow at the range. 

I'm also going to take my Ruger MKIII 22/45, my Marlin 795, Winchester 190, although those are all .22 caliber rifles (mk3 is a handgun) 

Still need to get my Mossy 500, still debating on a HD or combo (same price) shotgun.

If I get the combo, I can go shoot skeet (lawl) or trap, or actually hunt birds, yet still have a shortened HD gun. 

I'm also getting into reloading...as 45acp is EXPENSIVE compared to handgun rounds, and I have a .257 Roberts deer hunting (my grandfathers, I've only eaten deer, never hunted it, yet.) rifle that ammo is hard to find, and expensive when found, and want to be able to reload that as well. 

I'm looking at getting a Lee Pro1000 press, it's a progressive press, meaning I can deprime/size/prime/charge/seat/crimp multiple rounds at one time. Everyone that I've talked to says that if you can, reload. Saving money, making accurate match grade rounds, and another side hobby, let alone DIY when you can't find the ammo, are just a few things that happen when you get into it. 

So yeah...have at it VSC! :biggthumpup:

I only have a HK 45.   I need to renew my chl soon.

So I finally shot the Glock 30....I'm likin' a 26 better. I think I'm going to end up trading it for one.

so whats up with you mr firearms .. lol  put that money back into vip foo !

you goin to war? lol
nice collection
to bad the goverment says I cant own any :(
 
Well I can but not what I want ...

[QUOTE=Caoboy;316299]So I finally shot the Glock 30....I'm likin' a 26 better. I think I'm going to end up trading it for one.[/QUOTE]

does it kick hard?

[QUOTE=Caoboy;316299]So I finally shot the Glock 30....I'm likin' a 26 better. I think I'm going to end up trading it for one.[/QUOTE]
Man we better go to the range the next time I'm up there, I wanna shoot that Glock man.

whats better glock or springfield? or is it the same? (9mm maybe 45)
srry im not all up to date on guns but do plan on gettin one for protection later on...

most of you saw what i have in the build thread. Sig556, savage 300, mossberg, and a few old guns that are locked up, but my newest biggest weapon is my Q45.. so the department of transportation tells me

lol !

I'm ready for war

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Nice! I use to have the super soaker50. I miss when water guns looked real. I had a Mac10 with clips that was electric, a pump action shot gun with a clip that shot what would be like a shower like buck shot < that one was awesome. one of my faves was a m16 with various clips, they had little water plugs to plug the hole so the water never came out when it wasn't loaded. What happened?? where did the awesome berretta water guns go.. toys r us took them all off the shelf cause i painted them all black ran around my neighborhood probably (laughs)

LOL All I have is a BB gun, and it's in Caoboy's safe.

haha I used to paint all my water guns black too

Man, I havent shoot my guns in 6months or so.Just buying box of ammo
 
whenever i get a chance before 2012 comes:smiley-rofl: I got and a Whalter P22 w/ lazer sight, 
 
XD9 Subcompact w/ xd flashlight, Mossberg Tactical shotgun,extended baton, paintball gun
 
with spray pepper balls,and my favorite 900,000 volt Tazser Knuckle,very loud!
 
:dance:Havent used it, yet on anyone ,almost on my nieghbor when we had an argument
 
but i just have a BAT in my trunk. Until someone told me its legal to carry Gun in our car...=)

[QUOTE=MR.J;316335]whats better glock or springfield? or is it the same? (9mm maybe 45)
srry im not all up to date on guns but do plan on gettin one for protection later on...[/QUOTE]
Glocks are Glocks, SA is SA, whatever floats your boat. I chose Glock because I like the grip angle, it just felt 'right'. 
 
It is always Glock vs SA vs Sig. (For polymer guns at least.) Whoever has what likes it best, unless you have all 3. 
 
Wait til people start telling you to just get a 1911, because plastic guns can break! Oh...and they come in 9mm too, way to confuse people when you have a 1911 that shoots 9mm lol!
 
If you are sticking with 9mm (I would cheaper to shoot/reload) then go with Glock, but that is just my opinion. They built their guns around 9mm, and everything else is just to offer guns in different calibers. 
 
26/19/17 all day! 
 
I want to trade my glock for a 26/19...bleh. 
 
 
My collection is just that, it was collected over time, some are my pops/grandpa's guns. Going to war? Nah...just stockin' up on items we might not be able to buy in the future here in good ole' CA. I guess beaches and snow within a few hours of each other come with a price eh?
 
James... this is VIP to the max! I mean come on, every gangster has a gun, right? LOL. :pat: Car is on hold until I fix the front end suspension, doing a complete overhaul, something everybody with a 2GS should do!

thanks for the info. 
thats what a friend told me also, go with glock.
reason I like glock bc they are tactical and you can mod them,
like this.
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Idk about tacticool...that's just the latest phase in the gun scene...you can mod them as much as any other pistol. The Smith and Wesson MP series comes with a picatinny rail if that's your thing. 
 
On a pistol though, much other than good sights, flash light, or laser is not really needed. 
 
Practice and 'training' ( defensive pistol, ccw training) will pay off way more than cool accessories. 
 
Don't forget your pistol bayonet! You need that for sure! Lawl

I plan on picking up a Mossberg 12 gauge when i get the money. I've been eyeing the Mossberg 51340 JIC.

I'm looking for a good condition FN Five-Seven.  IOM if I could.   Last week I sold my S&W 686-4 prelock and a few months back my Hybrid Colt/SA stainless 1911.  Just sold my Berreta 92FS to a friend but yet to have collected funds...ugh.    Also sold my WASR-10.   Now down to just 2 ARs, Seecamp 32, HK40c, S&W500, Glock23, Kahr40, Sig229, Remington 700PSS, 10/22, Rem870, SA M1A and I might be forgetting something...  and I haven't gone shooting since its so expensive to buy ammo.   However I buy ammo still whenever I see a deal locally.   

Calguns.net is your friend.

I'm looking for a used FN Five-Seven for around $800-900 if anyone knows anyone selling please let me know.   Yes that is the type of ammo that gun shoots in the picture..
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Nice! I've wanted a 57 for a while, but cost of ammo is already outrageous for the .45. It's a cool looking gun, too bad we don't get to use the proper mags for it. 
 
 
Boosty, PG shotguns are no good for beginners. Also, for Mossbergs, they have tang safeties, and from what I've read/been told, that's not good for a pistol grip and an inexperienced shooter, especially in a HD situation. I say go for a regular old 500 from Big5 with a butt stock for HD if you want one. Or go with the combo, and be able to shoot trap/skeet as well as have a HD gun. 
 
And yes, anybody from California that has an interest in firearms, GO to calguns.net and READ! You will learn so much from them about what is legal/correct you'd be surprised how much FUD gets spread.

[QUOTE=Caoboy;316782]
 
Boosty, PG shotguns are no good for beginners. Also, for Mossbergs, they have tang safeties, and from what I've read/been told, that's not good for a pistol grip and an inexperienced shooter, especially in a HD situation. I say go for a regular old 500 from Big5 with a butt stock for HD if you want one. Or go with the combo, and be able to shoot trap/skeet as well as have a HD gun. 
 
[/QUOTE]


Ah i see, thanks for the heads up. What is a tang btw?

[QUOTE]you goin to war? lol[/QUOTE]

Against the ZOMBIES!!!!

Tang safety is on the top of the receiver, rather than the typical right/left handed safety. They call it "ambidextrous." I wanted to get a mossy, with a speedfeed pistolgrip buttstock, for a HD gun, and was told that this is not good, for you either (dangerously) leave the gun loaded with the safety off, or if you are 'clearing' your house for some reason with the safety on, and have to act, you have to take your firing hand off the PG to disable the safety, thus resulting in either dying or the BG getting away. With a regular rifle buttstock, your thumb is wrapped around the area where the safety will be, and you just flick it off, keeping your finger on the trigger and ready to go. Yes, this is ultimate 'mall ninja tacticool' info, but in reality, while you will probably never have to use your shotgun in a HD situation ( that's why I recommend the combo package from Big 5, so you can use it out at a range for other things like trap/skeet/hunting rather than just blowing stuff up (which is awesome)) it is a good thing to know.

We'll have a VSC meet at the range one day.... Caoboy's car will be used for target practice.

If you pay for the damage, you can shoot it all you want! LOL

[QUOTE=Blitz;316772]I'm looking for a good condition FN Five-Seven.  IOM if I could.   Last week I sold my S&W 686-4 prelock and a few months back my Hybrid Colt/SA stainless 1911.  Just sold my Berreta 92FS to a friend but yet to have collected funds...ugh.    Also sold my WASR-10.   Now down to just 2 ARs, Seecamp 32, HK40c, S&W500, Glock23, Kahr40, Sig229, Remington 700PSS, 10/22, Rem870, SA M1A and I might be forgetting something...  and I haven't gone shooting since its so expensive to buy ammo.   However I buy ammo still whenever I see a deal locally.   

Calguns.net is your friend.

I'm looking for a used FN Five-Seven for around $800-900 if anyone knows anyone selling please let me know.   Yes that is the type of ammo that gun shoots in the picture..
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those bullets are crazy...

lemme know if you ever decide to sell your HK40c...

I think I'm ready to have some fun :dance:

pew! pew!

:eek2: Looks like your going to have fun for a while

How much did that run you? 600 bucks?

cao. you ever actually handle and engage/disengage a safety on a pistol grip mossberg 500 series? I wouldn't consider it any more difficult then the push button on a remington 870 down by the trigger. yeah it's a slightly different motion with your thumb (no homo) but you don't have to take your hand off the grip or your other hand off the forend at all to hit the safety.

u don't wanna be talking people out of a reliable and affordable shotty for home defense for a reason like that when it's not really the case. go test one out, you'll see what I'm saying. unless you have mini t-rex hands like the guy on the burger king commercial, you'll be fine lol.

I'm just talking people out of a PG shotgun, not the Mossy, due to the location of the safety. 

An 870 with a PG is better than a Mossy with the PG in regards to the safety, as you don't have to move your hand as much, you just press the safety, and pop your finger back on the noisemaker. You don't have to 'maneuver' your hand to depress the safety like you would with a PG mossberg. 

Now if you have a regular rifle buttstock, you'd be better off with the tang safety, as your thumb is about where the safety is to flick it off, and your finger stays on the trigger.

I've fondled them and realized what the guy was telling me in person, and I see what he was talking about.


Besides, in an HD situation, I'd not want to be hip firing a PG shotgun, precision is where it counts, and a rifle stock is much better to use anyway...

It cost me a grip but thats okay.  Its how I relieve my stress.

You should just start reloading!

that pistol is awesome!

What type of bullets are those? 
shit looks boss.

5.56? maybe what the p90 ps90 uses.. well looks like them anyway

5.7mm, its a shrunk down 5.56.  Crazy accurate and the mags hold 20 rounds; but there isn't any recoil really so it isn't as fun to shoot as like a .357 or .454.  However, it is the gun for...

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thank you! i am sick so.. yeah excuse my lack of certainty on weaponry lol

I have a sig p229 love it.  have about 1k of rounds to go through, gotta love the gun shows for their pricing on ammo

[QUOTE=Green Poupon;321266]5.7mm, its a shrunk down 5.56. Crazy accurate and the mags hold 20 rounds; but there isn't any recoil really so it isn't as fun to shoot as like a .357 or .454. However, it is the gun for...
 
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 Kind of...more like a high powered centerfire 17hmR/2...forgot which one. Those bullets aren't as big as they look. Just like .223/5.56 isn't as big as it looks in pictures. 
 
TLontheDL, I've been shooting the 30 more, and going to keep it. It doesn't kick much harder than my .22 pistol, atleast to me. Been doing a lot of dryfiring to get used to the gun, and I feel a lot better with it. 
 
Plus, my .22 will hold me over on getting a bigger caliber to shoot a lot. Take that out, shoot it all day, shoot the glock a bit, and be done for the day. 
 
 
Hopefully this weekend my bro and I will get out to shoot the .257 Roberts, my pop's went to sheels in Reno and found some ammo on the shelves for it.

Ak-47 I had at the house the other day

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Pretty sweet James! You should have had a photoshoot with you in the car with that gun! lol

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a little product placement :D
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and a little fun with photoshop
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haha, One of these days

Me and my brothers little collection.

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woot woot!

[QUOTE=TLontheDL;320531]It cost me a grip but thats okay.  Its how I relieve my stress.[/QUOTE]

where do you go shooting at? we should set up a VSC houston range meet lol.

[URL]http://www.amshootcenters.com/[/URL]

The one behind west oaks mall on hwy 6 and westheimer.

i usually go to topgun, its indoors and its getting hot out lol.

i wanna get an ar15

I haven't been to topgun but a good friend of mine goes there all the time.  Is it somewhere near the Galleria?

yeah kinda...right off 59 and fountain view i think...off in a back street. they closed the lanes up for a while...something about someone starting a fire or something lol. dudes that work at the range are nuts lol. always ready to shoot someone haha.

[QUOTE=airmax;323137]yeah kinda...right off 59 and fountain view i think...off in a back street. they closed the lanes up for a while...something about someone starting a fire or something lol. dudes that work at the range are nuts lol. always ready to shoot someone haha.[/QUOTE]

one of the rounds fired sparked in the trap and started a grease fire or something like that.



heres my piece.
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need to go get my chl. been putting it off for too long.

glock?

yup. g19

looking for a deal on a USP right now, but it's whatevs.

yeah get a usp.  everybody has a glock.  usp is a man's gun :dance:

i haven't cleaned the glock in about 500 rounds. :shrug:

hopefully it doesn't jam on you

never had a problem with my glock :biggthumpup: 

i might pick up a sig soon though. but i should just save my money and pick up a chrome colt with pearl grips...since thats what i really want.

[QUOTE=TLontheDL;324229]hopefully it doesn't jam on you[/QUOTE]

a lot of the hardcore glock guys won't even clean it until after the first 1000 rounds. :shrug:

i've cleaned and oiled my glock before, but i've just been lazy after the last few range outings.

i clean mine after everytime i shoot it lol.

[QUOTE=airmax;324389]i clean mine after everytime i shoot it lol.[/QUOTE]
Yeah me too!

(We're still talking about firearms, right?)

I do like cleaning my firearms after I go to the range trip...it's like meditation for me lol!

well if we arent...then i clean mine after everytime i shoot it.

:smiley-rofl:

ahahahahaha

Haven't been on this thread in a while.. glad to see everything is normal. the signature of that guy TLontheDL is very fitting to the now new topic LOL

Just bought a 1989 Browning Hi Power...!!!!  10days..ugh

Sweet! How much did you get it for?
 
I'm looking for a mouse gun for the wifey, either a hp22a or a taurus pt22. Maybe the Beretta .22, they all pretty much look and function just the same.

[QUOTE=Caoboy;326315]Sweet! How much did you get it for?
 
I'm looking for a mouse gun for the wifey, either a hp22a or a taurus pt22. Maybe the Beretta .22, they all pretty much look and function just the same.[/QUOTE]

I paid $625 with 2 10 mags and 1 rebuild...original paperwork and box and some old ass holster and a gun sock

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How about a Sig Mosquito?   ohhh... or a Ruger Mark III or IV or something

I bought the browning for $625.   He was second owner and shot 200rds... first owner shot 20rds and kept it in safe for 20years.

I already have a mkiii 22/45. She likes shooting it, but wants something that is 'hers.' I don't want a p22 or Mosquito, I've shot both, and don't like them much at all. Idk if I'm going to buy it for her or just buy it and say it is 'hers' lol!

[QUOTE=Caoboy;326345]I already have a mkiii 22/45. She likes shooting it, but wants something that is 'hers.' I don't want a p22 or Mosquito, I've shot both, and don't like them much at all. Idk if I'm going to buy it for her or just buy it and say it is 'hers' lol![/QUOTE]

I actually have a Walther P22 I'm thinking of selling...   nm... modesto is just too far. 

I just bought a Sig P220R today... $700 slightly used.   Might be buying a Sig 556 from the same guy...  ugh I need to sell my rims.

i bought a walther p22 for my best friend, she loves it. she carries it in her bag everywhere she goes haha. i still have yet to shoot it.

[QUOTE=Caoboy;326345]I already have a mkiii 22/45. She likes shooting it, but wants something that is 'hers.' I don't want a p22 or Mosquito, I've shot both, and don't like them much at all. Idk if I'm going to buy it for her or just buy it and say it is 'hers' lol![/QUOTE]

Too bad you can't carry it on you everywhere you go :biggthumpup:

[QUOTE=siphanracing;326941]Too bad you can't carry it on you everywhere you go :biggthumpup:[/QUOTE]
 I do, I just can't whip out my piece wherever I want in public like you. :giggity:

[QUOTE=Caoboy;327207]I do, I just can't whip out my piece wherever I want in public like you. :giggity:[/QUOTE]

no homo?

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AR-15, GSG-5, CA-94, GSG-5P, FN57 =)

CA 94? Classic Army? Isn't that airsoft? =)

whoa whoa whoa. california and you have a bigger mag than 10? and no retarded california legal rifle stock? o.0

Rebuilds or 10/30's. 
 
Those GSG mags are 10's and Rimfires are exempt to stupid laws. They can't kill people, like .223 can. LOL!
 
 
I picked up an Aker Leather IWB holster for my Glock 30. Should be here by the weekend!

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[QUOTE=Blitz;327216]no homo?[/QUOTE]

:smiley-rofl:

[QUOTE=Caoboy;331593]CA 94? Classic Army? Isn't that airsoft? =)[/QUOTE]

CA-94 Cohaire Arms, HK-94 clone

yup 10/30 clips

the GSG's are just for playing, 22's are super cheap. 

The AR is set up for 5.56/223. I shoot 5.56 since I got a good deal a while back.
And the AR and CA-94 have bullet buttons. Damn Cali laws...

How much did the clone run you? Are you on Calguns.net?
 
I've seen a couple of actual HK's for sale...pretty dang expensive.

[QUOTE=Caoboy;331626]How much did the clone run you? Are you on Calguns.net?
 
I've seen a couple of actual HK's for sale...pretty dang expensive.[/QUOTE]

I'm on calguns, with the same s/n but I'm more a lurker, just browse a few threads here and there and the classifieds. When I picked it up it was a little under 2k. Yea the HK's now will run you a lot.  Coldwarshooters used to have the CA-94's but they don't have it anymore. They may be releasing a new version, I haven't checked since last year.

lol actual hk's are about 15k+ depend on which particular model and full auto is a nfa class III item. so you gotta throw a couple hundred on top for the tax stamp and transfer plus have a trust or corporation set up to take liability for the item.

def. not a cali item.

[QUOTE=brainneeded;331630]lol actual hk's are about 15k+ depend on which particular model and full auto is a nfa class III item. so you gotta throw a couple hundred on top for the tax stamp and transfer plus have a trust or corporation set up to take liability for the item.
 
def. not a cali item.[/QUOTE]
 Maybe it just had stamped HK parts, like an AK flat or something. It still sold for almost 3k? Something like that. Maybe it was built off an HK receiver, but with semi parts or something. There is a guy on CalGuns who has a lot of HK guns, he likes to show them off.

i think the only way in california to own nfa items is to have the sheriff or whatever highest law enforcement official sign off on it. might be a large contributing member to his sheriffs campaign fund. jussayin.

Sold my Arisaka today, looking to trade my Ruger MK3 22/45 (say that 5 times fast) for a Bersa Thunder 380...also looking to pick up a Phoenix Arms HP22A.

oOo guns my fav, i have an H&K mp5 , dpms kitty kat, and my sig p229 side arm, but on my off days i carry a tarus 380... btw i work for DHS

What's DHS? Private Security?

This owns this whole thread! But I had the gray one and always cut the cord off lol

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[QUOTE=Caoboy;350165]What's DHS? Private Security?[/QUOTE]

Department of Homeland Security
He's kind of a big deal :biggthumpup:

[QUOTE=brainneeded;331638]i think the only way in california to own nfa items is to have the sheriff or whatever highest law enforcement official sign off on it. might be a large contributing member to his sheriffs campaign fund. jussayin.[/QUOTE]

Like anywhere you need to submit an application to the ATF for a Class III license and then pay the tax stamp for EACH NFA item.   Like if you have 2 supressors you need to pay taxes on each and keep the paper work with them.   The only way I can think of getting one in Cali is if you're a FFL dealer with a dangerous weapons permit for the business through the DOJ.

BTW I just recently picked up a Walther TPH 25, Beretta 950BS, Kimber Custom II, Les Baer Premier II, Remington 870, Sig 556 SWAT, M1A SOCOM 16, Sig Mosquito, S&W 500mag and a FN 5.7(Finally).   Also I'm reloading now and got a Hornady LNL with case feeder setup to make 7.62x51, 7.62x39, 5.56, 45acp, 40s&w and 500mag.   I already messed up my Sig with a double charge.. but I repaired it.   I got some cuts on my lip and the gun blew out a mag and f'ed up the grips.   All fixed now.

actually in texas you don't need a class III license unless you're a dealer. in most other, non california states like texas, you can transfer it to an entity such as a corporation or a trust in which you are the trustee. the only really hard part is waiting on ATF approval, which like everywhere else, is subject to a background check and however long the particular ATF agent in your region likes to take, which typically in texas is around 6 months.

on the class III/suppressor forums the only thing i've been able to read about california is that all class III items can be signed off by the highest elected law enforcement office or something to that effect. most people aren't willing to spend the money necessary to become a dealer, the licensing alone is in the tens of thousands.

the application and tax stamp per item is given, that's a federal issue, not a state one. i really want to get my trust set up, but there are only two lawyers here in houston and they're both charging around 800, and i only really want one suppressor and an SBS. maybe in the future... i was going to earlier this year, but being in school, i really couldn't justify spending so much cash on a trust + suppresser + tax stamp.

[QUOTE=Caoboy;350165]What's DHS? Private Security?[/QUOTE]

DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, im a federal police agent

[QUOTE=leegs300;350222]DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, im a federal police officer[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=brainneeded;350188]actually in texas you don't need a class III license unless you're a dealer. in most other, non california states like texas, you can transfer it to an entity such as a corporation or a trust in which you are the trustee. the only really hard part is waiting on ATF approval, which like everywhere else, is subject to a background check and however long the particular ATF agent in your region likes to take, which typically in texas is around 6 months.

on the class III/suppressor forums the only thing i've been able to read about california is that all class III items can be signed off by the highest elected law enforcement office or something to that effect. most people aren't willing to spend the money necessary to become a dealer, the licensing alone is in the tens of thousands.

the application and tax stamp per item is given, that's a federal issue, not a state one. i really want to get my trust set up, but there are only two lawyers here in houston and they're both charging around 800, and i only really want one suppressor and an SBS. maybe in the future... i was going to earlier this year, but being in school, i really couldn't justify spending so much cash on a trust + suppresser + tax stamp.[/QUOTE]
i could not believe how much  a suppressor is, the suppressor for my mp5 is almost half the weapon, in the state of oregon its a 275.00 fed tax stamp + price of weapon or suppressor and a 30 day minimum wait. you go to any class 3 dealer file the paper work then 30 days if FBI approves you pick up your toy,

[QUOTE=brainneeded;350188]actually in texas you don't need a class III license unless you're a dealer. in most other, non california states like texas, you can transfer it to an entity such as a corporation or a trust in which you are the trustee. the only really hard part is waiting on ATF approval, which like everywhere else, is subject to a background check and however long the particular ATF agent in your region likes to take, which typically in texas is around 6 months.

on the class III/suppressor forums the only thing i've been able to read about california is that all class III items can be signed off by the highest elected law enforcement office or something to that effect. most people aren't willing to spend the money necessary to become a dealer, the licensing alone is in the tens of thousands.

the application and tax stamp per item is given, that's a federal issue, not a state one. i really want to get my trust set up, but there are only two lawyers here in houston and they're both charging around 800, and i only really want one suppressor and an SBS. maybe in the future... i was going to earlier this year, but being in school, i really couldn't justify spending so much cash on a trust + suppresser + tax stamp.[/QUOTE]
oh and in the state of california it is nearly impossible to be granted a tax stamp  or a ccw, any other other state  is possible but also the state of california does not recognize any CCW permits other then licensed and badged law enforcement and supreme court officials... on the other hand you can legaly have a hip holser and weapon exposed with your ammo on the other side gun has to be visible with no magazine, so when you draw its a 4 step process, grab gun, load amo, pull slide,fire.... i am glad i do not have to deal with state bylaws when it comes to weapons.. i can carry in any public,private,and in an airport on a plane only if i am working with us marshalls

[QUOTE=leegs300;350225]oh and in the state of california it is nearly impossible to be granted a tax stamp  or a ccw, any other other state  is possible but also the state of california does not recognize any CCW permits other then licensed and badged law enforcement and supreme court officials... on the other hand you can legaly have a hip holser and weapon exposed with your ammo on the other side gun has to be visible with no magazine, so when you draw its a 4 step process, grab gun, load amo, pull slide,fire.... i am glad i do not have to deal with state bylaws when it comes to weapons.. i can carry in any public,private,and in an airport on a plane only if i am working with us marshalls[/QUOTE]
What do you mean CA doesn't recognize CCW permits? 

And OC is a pretty dangerous thing to be doing...especially now that it has really come under fire...sure pressing your rights to carry is great and can help...but it's REALLY sticking your foot over the line if you are in any way illegal... (i.e. school zone)

[QUOTE=Caoboy;350353]What do you mean CA doesn't recognize CCW permits? 

And OC is a pretty dangerous thing to be doing...especially now that it has really come under fire...sure pressing your rights to carry is great and can help...but it's REALLY sticking your foot over the line if you are in any way illegal... (i.e. school zone)[/QUOTE]

no reciprocity with other states.

[QUOTE=brainneeded;350358]no reciprocity with other states.[/QUOTE]

CA  dosent want anyone to carry concealed
FEDERAL LAW under DOJ
Weapons permits from other states are not valid in California.
(PC Sections 12025-12031)

Oh. Yeah CA is stupid about that. CGF just busted Sac county's balls about it though, and got them to accept 'self defense' as good cause and get rid of the stupid 1 year residency BS IIRC. It's on Calguns.net if you want to read about it in their forum. They are really making strides as far as personal protection, hopefully, once they get all of the counties to be shall issue ( good luck) then they'll push for the state to be a shall issue state, and we'd end up just applying and receiving it. All I need to do here to get my CCW is fill out the application, take a CCW class/qualification, then submit the app. Apparently an investigator calls/sets up an interview either through the phone or meets with you in person, and if that interview 'goes well' you'll get approved for your CCW. No restrictions, on anybody's CCW so far that I've read about.
 
 
I still think that EVERY state should let you carry. If you can legally purchase a gun, and you take a qualification class and pass, you should just be able to apply and receive.

that's one of the big things that irks me about cali gun laws. i really understand nfa items really are not necessary, but at least allow your citizens to protect themselves. what's that saying? outlaw firearms, and only outlaws will have them.

I have a CCW in orange county...  and it was through Hutchens.  It is restricted but I can carry most of the time regardless.

Anybody know of a decent rear iron (preferrably not a BUS) for a flat top M4gery with a F marked front sight post?

Ordered a LMT rear sight today (non-carry handle) Hopefully it will justify the price. Almost returned it and got a Colt carry handle A2 rear sight but then the guy said it was off a Colt rifle and not marked as Colt in any way. Talked to the GF and she said " you might as well get the thing you know is legit, even if it'll cost you more, rather than buying something that might be a knockoff " I'm glad she justified the expense! :)

any1 built an AR up here?

[QUOTE=LiLS;404659]any1 built an AR up here?[/QUOTE]

alot of us have...  It's the barbie doll of guns.   Accessories like no other.    Get on calguns.net if you need help selecting parts.    I just recommend buying quality parts and don't cheap out.   Buy right buy once.

you can also go to AR15.com but they don't like Kalifornians.

[QUOTE=Blitz;404768]alot of us have...  It's the barbie doll of guns.   Accessories like no other.    Get on calguns.net if you need help selecting parts.    I just recommend buying quality parts and don't cheap out.   Buy right buy once.

you can also go to AR15.com but they don't like Kalifornians.[/QUOTE]

word trying to do my research, and im from tx :dance:

[QUOTE=LiLS;404776]word trying to do my research, and im from tx :dance:[/QUOTE]

Since you are in Texas try and get a Larue made rifle.  Considered one of the best..   I don't like them because they hate californians and refused many potential buyers but their products are very good.   Recently though I heard they opened up on selling to us because I'm sure the economy is affecting them too.

[url]http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Categories.bok?category=Stealth+Products[/url]

You can't go wrong with LMT, Noveske, Rock River etc...

sweet thread..I got just the basics

Franchi spas 12
Mark XIX pistol
Remington 700 30-6
3 Mossburg 12 gauges

mr. larue is a douche, but the products are top notch.