LS430???? HELP!!

Hey everyone, I'm Oz, I am currently new to the VIP scene and I am in the market for a lexus LS430 2004 and up in white.  I plan on slamming in on wheels with either air or coilovers, here is my delema, I want it to be slammed with the biggest dish possible and after doing tons of research on wheels and offsets I am coming up unsatisfied with the results.  After a few long frustrating weeks of looking for used wheels that would fit I then decided to buy new ones that will fit to satisfy what I am looking for.  Today I spoke with autofashions ready to order my 19" leon hardiritt beils but then I was told that the biggest dish I could run on a stock body with rolling the fenders was 4" in the back and 3" in the front with $800 camber arms.  Does anyone have any suggestion on wheels with extremely deep dish that I could use on a stock body with an aggressive fender roll?  Thanks so much in advance for your advice!

First of all, how deep of a lip are you lookin for. From the sounds of it, you seem to be willin to order wheels. If that's the case, orderin custom sizes gives you the ability to run wide wheels with low offsets. It also sounds like you're just lookin for some fat wheels, regardless of the look you'll have in the end, seems like your chasin numbers. With that said, I'd suggest you find the style wheel you're lookin for, decide how much lip ya want, then crunch numbers. Cause some wheel's faces are thicker than others, and'll take away from your lippage. Lips can also depends on disk height, and I believe the UCF30's need high disk if front to clear the stock stoppers (maybe a Toyota head can verify this) 

And aggressive fender roll?? I think ya mean pull, right?? That'll help fit big wheels v/s a roll

work wheels get more lip as a general rule, but lip isnt everything.  youll soon learn that anything over 5" lip requires extremely low offsets.

I'm not sure if it is called pulling or rolling but I plan on cutting the inner lip out and using a roller as much as I can.  I really just want to get the biggest dish possible.  I was ready to order the Leon Hardiritt wheels but Freddy at AF told me that the biggest dish I could run was 3" in the front and 4" in the rear and that is with adding $800 camber arms.

you can get 3" and 4" without the camber arm... We had an LS430 running 20x9.5 and 20x11.5 with 3/4.5" lip setup.

[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2633/251/35/715945116/n715945116_6182481_140065.jpg[/img]

I understood all that when I read it the 1st time
Another thing you can try is gettin the car 1st, then do your Super-Hella-Aggresssive-Ass-Extreme pull and figure out what you can fit in there. Cause if you order them super deep wheels, and can't pull enough, you're gonna need body work, and it don't seem like you're tryin to go that route.

[QUOTE=Brokey33;317303]I understood all that when I read it the 1st time
Another thing you can try is gettin the car 1st, then do your Super-Hella-Aggresssive-Ass-Extreme pull and figure out what you can fit in there. Cause if you order them super deep wheels, and can't pull enough, you're gonna need body work, and it don't seem like you're tryin to go that route.[/QUOTE]
 
The reason I want to order the wheels first is because my previous experience of ordering wheels always took 3 to 6 months to arrive after ordering them and I would prefer to not have to go through that again.  I was just wondering if it sounded right, the 3" in the front and 4" in the rear with the stock body and you are completely correct, I do not want to do any bodywork, just rolling.

[QUOTE=Platinum-VIP;317300]you can get 3" and 4" without the camber arm... We had an LS430 running 20x9.5 and 20x11.5 with 3/4.5" lip setup.
 
[IMG]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2633/251/35/715945116/n715945116_6182481_140065.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

oh, that is such a sign of relief, I did not want to spend the money on arms!  Thanks so much!!

my ls430 on 19x9, 19x10 +22 all around.  it was like close to 4" in the front, and 5" in the rear.  Its called "false" lip, because the face of the wheel sticks out further than the spokes.

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[QUOTE=RaCinStylez;317313]my ls430 on 19x9, 19x10 +22 all around. it was like close to 4" in the front, and 5" in the rear. Its called "false" lip, because the face of the wheel sticks out further than the spokes.
 
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[IMG]http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p158/racinstylez/Bippu/bippu06.jpg[/IMG]
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I agree with getting the car first then the wheels. It makes no sense in trying to fit rims onto something you don't have yet, therefore you cant measure. Get the car, roll and pull, measure, then you'll know what size rims will fit.

Hey man, I was the person trying to buy your Weds before I knew that I needed crazy body work. This wheels shit is pissling me off, I just wish I could find some wheels already!

you want like 4" and 5"...

you can fit anything. .. I proved that point...  platinum is doing something good over there not running arms .. I wonder myself !

buy my ssr not crazy lip but stance is on point

[img]http://www.ssr-wheels.com/images/photoshoot/revision_ls430/1500/1.jpg[/img]

Those ssr are hot what are the specs? Did you roll your Fenders?

Yes that would be perfect if I could get Leon beils with 4 in the front and 5 in the rear.... I wonder what I would have too do to make that possible?

WOW!!!! So trippy to see racinstylez car from way back! LOL! Sh*t look like a whole different make/model haha :biggthumpup:

[IMG]http://www.upgarage.com/upgarage/gazou/0905/0905145/0905145900072/0905145900072s0.jpg[/IMG]
 
lowenhart ldr. similar to a beil but with a "cheater lip".
 
[URL]http://www.upgarage.com/upgarage/stock/1/1/0905145900072/006[/URL]

wow this is noob status (no put down intended)

if you are looking to stuff that much wheel into a 430, i suggest you going with rear adj upper arms and lower arms. especially if you're not looking to do any fender mods. u will at least have to shave em. no bbk because the offset has to be in the teens or single digits. it can be done but its gonna take a lot to pull that off 

wheels that wont get you there:
AC's
Toms
SSR
Leons

wheels that will:
AME
WEDS
VIP MOD
and of course WORK


good luck

good fitment > lip size.

[QUOTE=vipsc3;317434]
wheels that wont get you there:
AC's
Toms
SSR
Leons

wheels that will:
AME
WEDS
[B]VIP MOD[/B]
and of course WORK


good luck[/QUOTE]

+1 :biggthumpup: