Lip Widening
Ok, so I was wondering. I know you can widen a rim by adding mor metal on the inner section of the rim. But what I am wondering, is it possible to do the same to the lip of the rim? I have a set of rims that I wanna make the lips wider (I cant seem to find new barrels as the lips are unique), so is it possible to make the rim lips wider the same way as the inner section and still make it look like they are original?
Sorry if this is a dumb question, just wondeirng if it is possible.
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Ok, so I was wondering. I know you can widen a rim by adding mor metal on the inner section of the rim. But what I am wondering, is it possible to do the same to the lip of the rim? I have a set of rims that I wanna make the lips wider (I cant seem to find new barrels as the lips are unique), so is it possible to make the rim lips wider the same way as the inner section and still make it look like they are original?
Sorry if this is a dumb question, just wondeirng if it is possible.
Pm antbo. he has a hook up in LA that does all that.
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Pm antbo. he has a hook up in LA that does all that.
VI IX;334252 wrote:Pm antbo. he has a hook up in LA that does all that.
Crap....LA only? Anywhere in the North East? I am from Canada and LA is pretty far :S Unless I take them appart and just send the lips :S
Also, I sent you (Autofashion) a PM about Looking up new lips from Crimson Inc.
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[QUOTE=VI IX;334252]Pm antbo. he has a hook up in LA that does all that.[/QUOTE]
Crap....LA only? Anywhere in the North East? I am from Canada and LA is pretty far :S Unless I take them appart and just send the lips :S
Also, I sent you (Autofashion) a PM about Looking up new lips from Crimson Inc.
need specs. 2-3 piece, stepped-lipped, welded, etc. and most importantly what size are they. i know a place here in san diego that has the whole barrel with lip, one piece. you order by lip size, only 19 and 20 though reversed lip style. let me know
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need specs. 2-3 piece, stepped-lipped, welded, etc. and most importantly what size are they. i know a place here in san diego that has the whole barrel with lip, one piece. you order by lip size, only 19 and 20 though reversed lip style. let me know
eye ess;334254 wrote:Crap....LA only? Anywhere in the North East? I am from Canada and LA is pretty far :S Unless I take them appart and just send the lips :S
Also, I sent you (Autofashion) a PM about Looking up new lips from Crimson Inc.
yeah i know im on it, just waiting for a response from them.
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[QUOTE=eye ess;334254]Crap....LA only? Anywhere in the North East? I am from Canada and LA is pretty far :S Unless I take them appart and just send the lips :S
Also, I sent you (Autofashion) a PM about Looking up new lips from Crimson Inc.[/QUOTE]
yeah i know im on it, just waiting for a response from them.
VI IX;334260 wrote:yeah i know im on it, just waiting for a response from them.
Thanks man.
This would change my rims from a 18x8 +36 and 18x9 +35 to 18x9 +23 and 18x10 +22
Hope you come through :)
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[QUOTE=VI IX;334260]yeah i know im on it, just waiting for a response from them.[/QUOTE]
Thanks man.
This would change my rims from a 18x8 +36 and 18x9 +35 to 18x9 +23 and 18x10 +22
Hope you come through :)
antbo;334258 wrote:need specs. 2-3 piece, stepped-lipped, welded, etc. and most importantly what size are they. i know a place here in san diego that has the whole barrel with lip, one piece. you order by lip size, only 19 and 20 though reversed lip style. let me know
very interesting. Would like to see a pic
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[QUOTE=antbo;334258]need specs. 2-3 piece, stepped-lipped, welded, etc. and most importantly what size are they. i know a place here in san diego that has the whole barrel with lip, one piece. you order by lip size, only 19 and 20 though reversed lip style. let me know[/QUOTE]
very interesting. Would like to see a pic
I'll try to get some. Lips are chrome
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I'll try to get some. Lips are chrome
They are 3 piece, not stepped lip...it is more like a sloped lip (D-Style)
The first place i contacted that contacted SSR said it is all welded, but I am certain they are 3 piece. I'll wait for further response from AutoFashion and probably contact you accordingly antbo :)
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They are 3 piece, not stepped lip...it is more like a sloped lip (D-Style)
The first place i contacted that contacted SSR said it is all welded, but I am certain they are 3 piece. I'll wait for further response from AutoFashion and probably contact you accordingly antbo :)
doesn't matter where the company is...you just need to send one wheel and they send the wheel + 4 barrells back...I just sent mine to get the lips done...since mine are 3 piece and weak offset, i just ordered the outter barrells...
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doesn't matter where the company is...you just need to send one wheel and they send the wheel + 4 barrells back...I just sent mine to get the lips done...since mine are 3 piece and weak offset, i just ordered the outter barrells...
this thread now has awesome written all over it.. and i need it done too. Mine are welded two piece needs to go from 19 8.5 to 9.5 right now its a +1 off
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this thread now has awesome written all over it.. and i need it done too. Mine are welded two piece needs to go from 19 8.5 to 9.5 right now its a +1 off
oh man, I really want to get this done to my Scara OZs
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oh man, I really want to get this done to my Scara OZs
There is a place in Michigan that does widening by welding as well.
Hey antbo I am interested in cost for new barrels as I am getting ridiculous prices for just 2 rears being made.
I appreciate any help ,thanks
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There is a place in Michigan that does widening by welding as well.
Hey antbo I am interested in cost for new barrels as I am getting ridiculous prices for just 2 rears being made.
I appreciate any help ,thanks
VIP-UCF;334363 wrote:doesn't matter where the company is...you just need to send one wheel and they send the wheel + 4 barrells back...I just sent mine to get the lips done...since mine are 3 piece and weak offset, i just ordered the outter barrells...
We need moar details....... please.
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[QUOTE=VIP-UCF;334363]doesn't matter where the company is...you just need to send one wheel and they send the wheel + 4 barrells back...I just sent mine to get the lips done...since mine are 3 piece and weak offset, i just ordered the outter barrells...[/QUOTE]
We need moar details....... please.
VIPStyleCars;334376 wrote:oh man, I really want to get this done to my Scara OZs
woah, i would love to see that...
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[QUOTE=VIPStyleCars;334376]oh man, I really want to get this done to my Scara OZs[/QUOTE]
woah, i would love to see that...
Antbo, you still using Ralph? I just sent my wheels to him....can't wait.
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Antbo, you still using Ralph? I just sent my wheels to him....can't wait.
Pretty sure ^^^ralph shit is tooo legit
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Pretty sure ^^^ralph shit is tooo legit
Schnitz;334395 wrote:We need moar details....... please.
what else would you like to know?
yup, antbo's homie ralph is who i went through...
antbo is deep in the streets, haha...
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[QUOTE=Schnitz;334395]We need moar details....... please.[/QUOTE]
what else would you like to know?
yup, antbo's homie ralph is who i went through...
antbo is deep in the streets, haha...
Original offset, new offsel, wheel model, time & cost.
Please.
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Original offset, new offsel, wheel model, time & cost.
Please.
18x8 +22 all around....just hit him up [email]relickone@gmail.com[/email]
good customer service so far...he has my equips right now...40 bolt with the ddc lips...
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18x8 +22 all around....just hit him up [email]relickone@gmail.com[/email]
good customer service so far...he has my equips right now...40 bolt with the ddc lips...
i am also in the market for a lip implant .. i would love to add another 20 mm of lip VS running spacers in the fronts ..
my rims are 20 x 9.5 + 39 fronts .. i think ..:biggthumpup:
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i am also in the market for a lip implant .. i would love to add another 20 mm of lip VS running spacers in the fronts ..
my rims are 20 x 9.5 + 39 fronts .. i think ..:biggthumpup:
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ya, my nboy ralph is doing it big for the honda scene. but im trying to shoot him all the vip folks. my other boy works at this shop locally here in SD. i can give you guys his number. he sells 1 piece barrels chrome lip. you order them by lip size and only 19" and 20". but my other boy ralph does all sizes custom shizz
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My 1st set of Custom M7 16x8/16x9.5(+15)
I also offer 3 piece straight reverse lips from 18" to 20". Also, some stepped outers and inners
18" up to 5" lip
19" up to 6" lip
20" up to 7"
Prices for 3 piece lips vary from $250 per lip plus polish, chrome, labor, shipping, etc. My lips come raw metal. In most cases, I will need one wheel for measuring and fitment purposes unless stated otherwise.
If you need assembly and reseal send me the whole set and I will assemble your wheels for an extra fee.
Here is an example of Solomans C5's
Before: 18x7.5 (+42)

After: 18x9 (+25)

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I also offer 3 piece straight reverse lips from 18" to 20". Also, some stepped outers and inners
18" up to 5" lip
19" up to 6" lip
20" up to 7"
Prices for 3 piece lips vary from $250 per lip plus polish, chrome, labor, shipping, etc. My lips come raw metal. In most cases, I will need one wheel for measuring and fitment purposes unless stated otherwise.
If you need assembly and reseal send me the whole set and I will assemble your wheels for an extra fee.
Here is an example of Solomans C5's
Before: 18x7.5 (+42)
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/t4kezo/For%20Sale/C5sfront.jpg[/IMG]
After: 18x9 (+25)
[img]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4398610209_d252[/img]
I love the work he is doing!!! Just awesome.
Too bad that C5 pic isn't working. It is funny but I have been considering some 19" C5 in weak offsets and then get new lips. Good to know it is a real option!
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I love the work he is doing!!! Just awesome.
Too bad that C5 pic isn't working. It is funny but I have been considering some 19" C5 in weak offsets and then get new lips. Good to know it is a real option!
^^yeah, sorry bout that. he sent me the link like that
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^^yeah, sorry bout that. he sent me the link like that
antbo;334529 wrote:I also offer 3 piece straight reverse lips from 18" to 20". Also, some stepped outers and inners
18" up to 5" lip
19" up to 6" lip
20" up to 7"
Prices for 3 piece lips vary from $250 per lip plus polish, chrome, labor, shipping, etc. My lips come raw metal. In most cases, I will need one wheel for measuring and fitment purposes unless stated otherwise.
If you need assembly and reseal send me the whole set and I will assemble your wheels for an extra fee.
Here is an example of Solomans C5's
Before: 18x7.5 (+42)

After: 18x9 (+25)

Does he at all provide a D-Style sloped lip? All I would need is 2 lips to replace my rear lips so that I can move the lips I have in the rear to the ones up front. So I would thus send him my one rear and he will make and test fit the new lip on the one?
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[QUOTE=antbo;334529]I also offer 3 piece straight reverse lips from 18" to 20". Also, some stepped outers and inners
18" up to 5" lip
19" up to 6" lip
20" up to 7"
Prices for 3 piece lips vary from $250 per lip plus polish, chrome, labor, shipping, etc. My lips come raw metal. In most cases, I will need one wheel for measuring and fitment purposes unless stated otherwise.
If you need assembly and reseal send me the whole set and I will assemble your wheels for an extra fee.
Here is an example of Solomans C5's
Before: 18x7.5 (+42)
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/t4kezo/For%20Sale/C5sfront.jpg[/IMG]
After: 18x9 (+25)
[img]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4398610209_d252[/img][/QUOTE]
Does he at all provide a D-Style sloped lip? All I would need is 2 lips to replace my rear lips so that I can move the lips I have in the rear to the ones up front. So I would thus send him my one rear and he will make and test fit the new lip on the one?
You just opened up a whole can of business lol I think I know about these lips and finishing from the honda forums.
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You just opened up a whole can of business lol I think I know about these lips and finishing from the honda forums.
onelowr;334563 wrote:You just opened up a whole can of business lol I think I know about these lips and finishing from the honda forums.
Lol...i should get discount for starting the thread lol
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[QUOTE=onelowr;334563]You just opened up a whole can of business lol I think I know about these lips and finishing from the honda forums.[/QUOTE]
Lol...i should get discount for starting the thread lol
nah...me and antbo get the discounts...hahah
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nah...me and antbo get the discounts...hahah
Will be in contact shortly
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Will be in contact shortly
damn honda guys are doing it big
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damn honda guys are doing it big
knguyen;334678 wrote:damn honda guys are doing it big
Well lot of honda rims were pretty weak offsets and/or widths so they had to make a way to get the crazy fitment they wanted with the faces they liked. They actually are not the first to do this I just remember the person able to do it being mentioned in this thread from honda forums.
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[QUOTE=knguyen;334678]damn honda guys are doing it big[/QUOTE]
Well lot of honda rims were pretty weak offsets and/or widths so they had to make a way to get the crazy fitment they wanted with the faces they liked. They actually are not the first to do this I just remember the person able to do it being mentioned in this thread from honda forums.
WOW! im going to have to look into these
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WOW! im going to have to look into these
onelowr;334996 wrote:Well lot of honda rims were pretty weak offsets and/or widths so they had to make a way to get the crazy fitment they wanted with the faces they liked. They actually are not the first to do this I just remember the person able to do it being mentioned in this thread from honda forums.
yeah, cuz all those pics are his. i just forwarded whatever he emailed me on this thread
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[QUOTE=onelowr;334996]Well lot of honda rims were pretty weak offsets and/or widths so they had to make a way to get the crazy fitment they wanted with the faces they liked. They actually are not the first to do this I just remember the person able to do it being mentioned in this thread from honda forums.[/QUOTE]
yeah, cuz all those pics are his. i just forwarded whatever he emailed me on this thread
Whoa this is intriguing...
I have a set of 18" wheels i've been wondering about. they're 3Piece Vienna Dish EV 18x8 +49 offset... i was wondering about changing them to 19x8.5 and 19x10...
They're reverse lip... going to step lip, is that possible?
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Whoa this is intriguing...
I have a set of 18" wheels i've been wondering about. they're 3Piece Vienna Dish EV 18x8 +49 offset... i was wondering about changing them to 19x8.5 and 19x10...
They're reverse lip... going to step lip, is that possible?
Avantgarde;336856 wrote:Whoa this is intriguing...
I have a set of 18" wheels i've been wondering about. they're 3Piece Vienna Dish EV 18x8 +49 offset... i was wondering about changing them to 19x8.5 and 19x10...
They're reverse lip... going to step lip, is that possible?
Yea, where they get the extra inch in diameter is from adding the step.
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[QUOTE=Avantgarde;336856]Whoa this is intriguing...
I have a set of 18" wheels i've been wondering about. they're 3Piece Vienna Dish EV 18x8 +49 offset... i was wondering about changing them to 19x8.5 and 19x10...
They're reverse lip... going to step lip, is that possible?[/QUOTE]
Yea, where they get the extra inch in diameter is from adding the step.
for inquires and questions about what specs you need, please email [EMAIL="relickone@gmail.com"]relickone@gmail.com[/EMAIL] or call SIMPLE WHEEL WERKS 714-651-7239
i refuse to figure out your guys specs you need. i dont work there. =)
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for inquires and questions about what specs you need, please email [EMAIL="relickone@gmail.com"][SIZE=6][COLOR=#a89655]relickone@gmail.com[/COLOR][/SIZE][/EMAIL] or call [SIZE=6]SIMPLE WHEEL WERKS 714-651-7239 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]i refuse to figure out your guys specs you need. i dont work there. =) [/SIZE]
damn, did i miss it somewhere in the thread???
made that sh*t extra big LOL!
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damn, did i miss it somewhere in the thread???
made that sh*t extra big LOL!
antbo;336878 wrote:for inquires and questions about what specs you need, please email [EMAIL="relickone@gmail.com"]relickone@gmail.com[/EMAIL] or call SIMPLE WHEEL WERKS 714-651-7239
i refuse to figure out your guys specs you need. i dont work there. =)
So this guy does all kinds of work? i'm looking to get my wheels fix, like refinish them
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[QUOTE=antbo;336878]for inquires and questions about what specs you need, please email [EMAIL="relickone@gmail.com"][SIZE=6][COLOR=#a89655]relickone@gmail.com[/COLOR][/SIZE][/EMAIL] or call [SIZE=6]SIMPLE WHEEL WERKS 714-651-7239 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]i refuse to figure out your guys specs you need. i dont work there. =) [/SIZE][/QUOTE]
So this guy does all kinds of work? i'm looking to get my wheels fix, like refinish them
ya, this guy pretty much does everything...
what u need to fix on your rims? if its simple curb rash then it prolly won't be worth all the shipping...
oh yeah, can only get 4" and 5" barells...no 4.5"
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ya, this guy pretty much does everything...
what u need to fix on your rims? if its simple curb rash then it prolly won't be worth all the shipping...
oh yeah, can only get 4" and 5" barells...no 4.5"
Well there some simple and bad rashes, specially on rear wheels are tha bad ones but other than that the scratches on the lips, clear coat its getting like some kind of white oxidation just by the rivets are.
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Well there some simple and bad rashes, specially on rear wheels are tha bad ones but other than that the scratches on the lips, clear coat its getting like some kind of white oxidation just by the rivets are.
This seems to interest a lot of people. Antbo, you should suggest to your friend to get a vendor account on VSC, that way he can bring is business to this market. I don't think we currently have a dedicate wheel rebuilder/refinisher among our vendors, do we?
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This seems to interest a lot of people. [B]Antbo[/B], you should suggest to your friend to get a vendor account on VSC, that way he can bring is business to this market. I don't think we currently have a dedicate wheel rebuilder/refinisher among our vendors, do we?
these guys do good work.. have few friends who got their wheels done by them.. legit@!
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these guys do good work.. have few friends who got their wheels done by them.. legit@!
VIPy33;337163 wrote:So this guy does all kinds of work? i'm looking to get my wheels fix, like refinish them
Ralph can do whatever you want. Just give him a call. Awesome guy to work with.
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[QUOTE=VIPy33;337163]So this guy does all kinds of work? i'm looking to get my wheels fix, like refinish them[/QUOTE]
Ralph can do whatever you want. Just give him a call. Awesome guy to work with.
Ralph is working on one of my maya rt5.it got damaged in a car wreck I had. As you know it's a 2 piece wheel. Well in order to repair it he's breaking the weld to from my damaged inner barrel. He's going install a new one but he isn't going to weld it. He's going to make it 3 piece wheel! Now that's balls!!
He told me if I want we can make the fronts wider then the rear thus making my rear rims the new front rims which is a 20x10.5+29 the new rear would have to be 20x11.5 +0 if I did my math correctly. But these wheels will be up for sale soon so if anyone wants original specs or the super crazy aggressive lmk of course the wheels will be alot more then ! But I'll keep y'all updated !
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Ralph is working on one of my maya rt5.it got damaged in a car wreck I had. As you know it's a 2 piece wheel. Well in order to repair it he's breaking the weld to from my damaged inner barrel. He's going install a new one but he isn't going to weld it. He's going to make it 3 piece wheel! Now that's balls!!
He told me if I want we can make the fronts wider then the rear thus making my rear rims the new front rims which is a 20x10.5+29 the new rear would have to be 20x11.5 +0 if I did my math correctly. But these wheels will be up for sale soon so if anyone wants original specs or the super crazy aggressive lmk of course the wheels will be alot more then ! But I'll keep y'all updated !
firelizard;337366 wrote:This seems to interest a lot of people. Antbo, you should suggest to your friend to get a vendor account on VSC, that way he can bring is business to this market. I don't think we currently have a dedicate wheel rebuilder/refinisher among our vendors, do we?
I was thinkin of that. But I think he likes word of mouth better, idk ill ask
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[QUOTE=firelizard;337366]This seems to interest a lot of people. [B]Antbo[/B], you should suggest to your friend to get a vendor account on VSC, that way he can bring is business to this market. I don't think we currently have a dedicate wheel rebuilder/refinisher among our vendors, do we?[/QUOTE]
I was thinkin of that. But I think he likes word of mouth better, idk ill ask
antbo;336878 wrote:for inquires and questions about what specs you need, please email [EMAIL="relickone@gmail.com"]relickone@gmail.com[/EMAIL] or call SIMPLE WHEEL WERKS 714-651-7239
i refuse to figure out your guys specs you need. i dont work there. =)
HELL YEAH! :biggthumpup:
I was chillin at Simple Wheel Werks today, My homegirl works at SSW and PAOLO is a legit & humble dude. My cuzzo is getting his suspension and wheels done on his UCF10 and Paolo hooked it up. This is the place to go, they definitely know what they are doing & treat you like fam.
I think Paolo & Ralph collab together, but Paolo is the dude you really wanna hit up. The homie won't front you. Ask for Paolo 17147254445 tell him Joey sent you, trust me on this.
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/cl-of-southern-california/519261-southern-california-wheel-repairs-business-3.html
firelizard;337366 wrote:This seems to interest a lot of people. Antbo, you should suggest to your friend to get a vendor account on VSC, that way he can bring is business to this market. I don't think we currently have a dedicate wheel rebuilder/refinisher among our vendors, do we?
That does sound like a good idea, i'll talk to him tomorrow about being a vendor.
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[QUOTE=antbo;336878]for inquires and questions about what specs you need, please email [EMAIL="relickone@gmail.com"][SIZE=6][COLOR=#a89655]relickone@gmail.com[/COLOR][/SIZE][/EMAIL] or call [SIZE=6]SIMPLE WHEEL WERKS 714-651-7239 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]i refuse to figure out your guys specs you need. i dont work there. =) [/SIZE][/QUOTE]
HELL YEAH! :biggthumpup:
I was chillin at Simple Wheel Werks today, My homegirl works at SSW and PAOLO is a legit & humble dude. My cuzzo is getting his suspension and wheels done on his UCF10 and Paolo hooked it up. This is the place to go, they definitely know what they are doing & treat you like fam.
I think Paolo & Ralph collab together, but Paolo is the dude you really wanna hit up. The homie won't front you. Ask for Paolo 17147254445 tell him Joey sent you, trust me on this.
[url]http://www.clublexus.com/forums/cl-of-southern-california/519261-southern-california-wheel-repairs-business-3.html[/url]
[QUOTE=firelizard;337366]This seems to interest a lot of people. [B]Antbo[/B], you should suggest to your friend to get a vendor account on VSC, that way he can bring is business to this market. I don't think we currently have a dedicate wheel rebuilder/refinisher among our vendors, do we?[/QUOTE]
That does sound like a good idea, i'll talk to him tomorrow about being a vendor.
^^ Ralph is a great dude too, got a chance to meet with him couple days ago.
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^^ Ralph is a great dude too, got a chance to meet with him couple days ago.
VIPy33;337163 wrote:So this guy does all kinds of work? i'm looking to get my wheels fix, like refinish them
Yes he's fixing one of my mayas.. He's making one of my rims from a welded 2 piece to a 3 piece modular wheel :)
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[QUOTE=VIPy33;337163]So this guy does all kinds of work? i'm looking to get my wheels fix, like refinish them[/QUOTE]
Yes he's fixing one of my mayas.. He's making one of my rims from a welded 2 piece to a 3 piece modular wheel :)
WTF no ways!
i have that and need what you are doing.
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WTF no ways!
i have that and need what you are doing.
bOosty.ViP;340300 wrote:
I think Paolo & Ralph collab together, but Paolo is the dude you really wanna hit up. The homie won't front you. Ask for Paolo 17147254445 tell him Joey sent you, trust me on this.
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/cl-of-southern-california/519261-southern-california-wheel-repairs-business-3.html
never heard of him or his "company."
all i know is ralph is the brains behind all those jobs.
on the other hand, ralph wright aka opossum jenkins has a long history in building and selling wheels all over the country.
him and his wheel collection were featured in super street awhile back and a recent article as well for h-t.
[email]relickone@gmail.com[/email] or call n leave a detailed voicrmail at 7146517239
i am a friend and long time customer of ralph and he always comes up with new fresh ideas and on top of all that, he's the source.
good guy to deal with.
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I think Paolo & Ralph collab together, but Paolo is the dude you really wanna hit up. The homie won't front you. Ask for Paolo 17147254445 tell him Joey sent you, trust me on this.
[url]http://www.clublexus.com/forums/cl-of-southern-california/519261-southern-california-wheel-repairs-business-3.html[/url]
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never heard of him or his "company."
all i know is ralph is the brains behind all those jobs.
on the other hand, ralph wright aka opossum jenkins has a long history in building and selling wheels all over the country.
him and his wheel collection were featured in super street awhile back and a recent article as well for h-t.
[email]relickone@gmail.com[/email] or call n leave a detailed voicrmail at 7146517239
i am a friend and long time customer of ralph and he always comes up with new fresh ideas and on top of all that, he's the source.
good guy to deal with.
can vouch for Mr. wright....just did my SSR's in the Lexus "new wheels" thread.
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can vouch for Mr. wright....just did my SSR's in the Lexus "new wheels" thread.
do these guys do step lip? i want to source 19" step lips
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do these guys do step lip? i want to source 19" step lips
Some good info in here. Thanks fellas!!! What this guy does may be an area of interest too...
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http://www.ericvaughnmachine.com/
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Some good info in here. Thanks fellas!!! What this guy does may be an area of interest too...
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[url]http://www.ericvaughnmachine.com/[/url]
lip widening?... you mean like this?
before...
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lip widening?... you mean like this?
[I]before...[/I]
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[I]AFTER![/I]
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5t341tH;350557 wrote:do these guys do step lip? i want to source 19" step lips
He can do step lips but you would need an 18" face if I remember correctly.
Just hit up Ralph. He'll tell you exactly what you need.
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[QUOTE=5t341tH;350557]do these guys do step lip? i want to source 19" step lips[/QUOTE]
He can do step lips but you would need an 18" face if I remember correctly.
Just hit up Ralph. He'll tell you exactly what you need.
will turn them into 20s
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will turn them into 20s
i didnt want to start a new thread in case other people are searching for this in the future but i called 714-651-7239 and the number doesnt work. are they still in business? does anyone have their number? i saw somewhere they cant do wider than 6" barrel. is that true cuz i want something like 12.5 and 13.5 or 14" width
i called eric vaughn machine and he can widen 1 and 2 piece wheels no problem but 3pc can only be done if the circumference of the barrel is the same and/or if the barrel wanted is as wide as he can offer. he cant increase diameter
at minimum id like to widen the rears and for that i can go to eric vaughn if necessary but what id really want is to go 19 to 20 and widen all 4...
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i didnt want to start a new thread in case other people are searching for this in the future but i called 714-651-7239 and the number doesnt work. are they still in business? does anyone have their number? i saw somewhere they cant do wider than 6" barrel. is that true cuz i want something like 12.5 and 13.5 or 14" width
i called eric vaughn machine and he can widen 1 and 2 piece wheels no problem but 3pc can only be done if the circumference of the barrel is the same and/or if the barrel wanted is as wide as he can offer. he cant increase diameter
at minimum id like to widen the rears and for that i can go to eric vaughn if necessary but what id really want is to go 19 to 20 and widen all 4...
i know ralph and he is still in business. id suggest email, and leave your number. he should call you by the end of the day. thats my experience. i highly recommend him. i know a handfull of members on here that have had their wheels done by him
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i know ralph and he is still in business. id suggest email, and leave your number. he should call you by the end of the day. thats my experience. i highly recommend him. i know a handfull of members on here that have had their wheels done by him
steeb;371075 wrote:i didnt want to start a new thread in case other people are searching for this in the future but i called 714-651-7239 and the number doesnt work. are they still in business? does anyone have their number? i saw somewhere they cant do wider than 6" barrel. is that true cuz i want something like 12.5 and 13.5 or 14" width
i called eric vaughn machine and he can widen 1 and 2 piece wheels no problem but 3pc can only be done if the circumference of the barrel is the same and/or if the barrel wanted is as wide as he can offer. he cant increase diameter
at minimum id like to widen the rears and for that i can go to eric vaughn if necessary but what id really want is to go 19 to 20 and widen all 4...
ralph and SWW and such will slap new barrels onto your faces, but if you can't find a barrel half wide enough, you'd have ralph slap it on and then you'd take it to vaughn to get widened. vaughn only does cutting and welding of aluminum wheel barrels -- he doesn't play with refinishing or rebarreling.
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[QUOTE=steeb;371075]i didnt want to start a new thread in case other people are searching for this in the future but i called 714-651-7239 and the number doesnt work. are they still in business? does anyone have their number? i saw somewhere they cant do wider than 6" barrel. is that true cuz i want something like 12.5 and 13.5 or 14" width
i called eric vaughn machine and he can widen 1 and 2 piece wheels no problem but 3pc can only be done if the circumference of the barrel is the same and/or if the barrel wanted is as wide as he can offer. he cant increase diameter
at minimum id like to widen the rears and for that i can go to eric vaughn if necessary but what id really want is to go 19 to 20 and widen all 4...[/QUOTE]
ralph and SWW and such will slap new barrels onto your faces, but if you can't find a barrel half wide enough, you'd have ralph slap it on and then you'd take it to vaughn to get widened. vaughn only does cutting and welding of aluminum wheel barrels -- he doesn't play with refinishing or rebarreling.
cheez80;371344 wrote:ralph and SWW and such will slap new barrels onto your faces, but if you can't find a barrel half wide enough, you'd have ralph slap it on and then you'd take it to vaughn to get widened. vaughn only does cutting and welding of aluminum wheel barrels -- he doesn't play with refinishing or rebarreling.
i called eric vaughn and he was very helpful. from what we gathered over the phone, he could make my rear barrels wider because the wheels are reverse lips. from what i gathered he could widen the front wheels to 12-12.5 and rears to 14. fronts would be perfect with no spacer but rears would be enough for stock body at 13 i think. he indeed indicated he wouldnt touch the fronts because they are 3 pc wheels and a weld would show. there is an option to that tho, one could have the weld on the lips smoothed out and chromed and have easier maintainence. thats definately something i need since i work 10-12hr shifts 6x-7x/wk.
i was thinking about emailing ralph at that email cuz i really think 20's would look better but i leave my phone on silent because i dont want it to ring at work or when im sleeping and i dont usually remember to turn the ringer on when i get up. i know i fail..... =(
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[QUOTE=cheez80;371344]ralph and SWW and such will slap new barrels onto your faces, but if you can't find a barrel half wide enough, you'd have ralph slap it on and then you'd take it to vaughn to get widened. vaughn only does cutting and welding of aluminum wheel barrels -- he doesn't play with refinishing or rebarreling.[/QUOTE]
i called eric vaughn and he was very helpful. from what we gathered over the phone, he could make my rear barrels wider because the wheels are reverse lips. from what i gathered he could widen the front wheels to 12-12.5 and rears to 14. fronts would be perfect with no spacer but rears would be enough for stock body at 13 i think. he indeed indicated he wouldnt touch the fronts because they are 3 pc wheels and a weld would show. there is an option to that tho, one could have the weld on the lips smoothed out and chromed and have easier maintainence. thats definately something i need since i work 10-12hr shifts 6x-7x/wk.
i was thinking about emailing ralph at that email cuz i really think 20's would look better but i leave my phone on silent because i dont want it to ring at work or when im sleeping and i dont usually remember to turn the ringer on when i get up. i know i fail..... =(
949-478-2174 is ralph's new work number. I know him personally and saw this thread while browsing for info on the UAS bag kit and Phantom cup kit and called him to see what happen to his work number. He gave me this number to give out to the fellow homies that need wheels work.
Ralph is the man to go too. He made my vs-xx 20x9.5 +4, 20x11 +6 to 20x11 -10, 20x13 -10 for my 350z. He is very helpful and can do almost anything custom for your wheels. I'm planning on sending him my next set which are 19" Maya RT5 to him soon for work, possible keep them 19 with 12" up front and 14" in the rear or step lip up to 20 with an inch less width but still trying to decide what to do with them.
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949-478-2174 is ralph's new work number. I know him personally and saw this thread while browsing for info on the UAS bag kit and Phantom cup kit and called him to see what happen to his work number. He gave me this number to give out to the fellow homies that need wheels work.
Ralph is the man to go too. He made my vs-xx 20x9.5 +4, 20x11 +6 to 20x11 -10, 20x13 -10 for my 350z. He is very helpful and can do almost anything custom for your wheels. I'm planning on sending him my next set which are 19" Maya RT5 to him soon for work, possible keep them 19 with 12" up front and 14" in the rear or step lip up to 20 with an inch less width but still trying to decide what to do with them.
damn. Any pics of those VSXX on your 350Z?
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damn. Any pics of those VSXX on your 350Z?
thanks hachboy
AME_VIP;372098 wrote:damn. Any pics of those VSXX on your 350Z?
^^^ x2 and if you ever come back and see this
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thanks hachboy
[QUOTE=AME_VIP;372098]damn. Any pics of those VSXX on your 350Z?[/QUOTE]
^^^ x2 and if you ever come back and see this
I sent my wheels to Ralph and i wish it was a good story , i have been trying for 6 months and have had nothing but grief and excuses including my email was not working .
Maybe its because I am in Canada and he thinks i am too far to doo anything .
Long story short is i sent my OZ's to him paid him and when i opened the box it looked fine , when to mount the tires on them and they are wobbling like they are bent ???????????????
I look closely and he drilled all the holes wrong for the bolts to mount , then he obviously realized but instead of measuring and checking again he drilled again , it must of been by hand and all of them are off .
Now one side of the face is jammed against the barrel and one side has a gap !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who in their right mind would build a wheel and sell it when it isn't round , that's the point of wheel , isn't it ?
To top it off the face has a register which is supposed to butt up against the barrel like a hubcentric ring and that is off as well which is why the wheel is also not round .
His idea originally was to have me to pay and send them back because he was short on money and " FIX " them . He finally changed his mind and gave me a fed ex account to pay for it .
When i questioned his method of repair he was going to take , he said he was going to weld the faces to meet the improperly made barrels and then drill open the holes wider .
I had no faith at this point and told him i wanted new barrels and i will pay to ship these paper weights back to him . He of course no longer responds .
To add insult to injury , the finish i wanted on the rims is blotchy and has fingerprints on them .
This is just insane , Ralph wright , opossum Jenkins , wright wheel what ever you want to call yourself , you took my money and gave me some crap no one would pay for .
I will promise you i will do everything in my power to keep you from butchering another wheel and ripping someone off again including getting a job as most employers do make a simple internet search .
I hope this reaches you and you do the right thing like you were supposed to in the first place as you kept assuring me that you "give me your word . if your not satisfied you make them again if you have to .
Well yeah buddy , you do have to " MAKE " them again .
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I sent my wheels to Ralph and i wish it was a good story , i have been trying for 6 months and have had nothing but grief and excuses including my email was not working .
Maybe its because I am in Canada and he thinks i am too far to doo anything .
Long story short is i sent my OZ's to him paid him and when i opened the box it looked fine , when to mount the tires on them and they are wobbling like they are bent ???????????????
I look closely and he drilled all the holes wrong for the bolts to mount , then he obviously realized but instead of measuring and checking again he drilled again , it must of been by hand and all of them are off .
Now one side of the face is jammed against the barrel and one side has a gap !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who in their right mind would build a wheel and sell it when it isn't round , that's the point of wheel , isn't it ?
To top it off the face has a register which is supposed to butt up against the barrel like a hubcentric ring and that is off as well which is why the wheel is also not round .
His idea originally was to have me to pay and send them back because he was short on money and " FIX " them . He finally changed his mind and gave me a fed ex account to pay for it .
When i questioned his method of repair he was going to take , he said he was going to weld the faces to meet the improperly made barrels and then drill open the holes wider .
I had no faith at this point and told him i wanted new barrels and i will pay to ship these paper weights back to him . He of course no longer responds .
To add insult to injury , the finish i wanted on the rims is blotchy and has fingerprints on them .
This is just insane , Ralph wright , opossum Jenkins , wright wheel what ever you want to call yourself , you took my money and gave me some crap no one would pay for .
I will promise you i will do everything in my power to keep you from butchering another wheel and ripping someone off again including getting a job as most employers do make a simple internet search .
I hope this reaches you and you do the right thing like you were supposed to in the first place as you kept assuring me that you "give me your word . if your not satisfied you make them again if you have to .
Well yeah buddy , you do have to " MAKE " them again .
SKperformance;437002 wrote:I sent my wheels to Ralph and i wish it was a good story , i have been trying for 6 months and have had nothing but grief and excuses including my email was not working .
Maybe its because I am in Canada and he thinks i am too far to doo anything .
Long story short is i sent my OZ's to him paid him and when i opened the box it looked fine , when to mount the tires on them and they are wobbling like they are bent ???????????????
I look closely and he drilled all the holes wrong for the bolts to mount , then he obviously realized but instead of measuring and checking again he drilled again , it must of been by hand and all of them are off .
Now one side of the face is jammed against the barrel and one side has a gap !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who in their right mind would build a wheel and sell it when it isn't round , that's the point of wheel , isn't it ?
To top it off the face has a register which is supposed to butt up against the barrel like a hubcentric ring and that is off as well which is why the wheel is also not round .
His idea originally was to have me to pay and send them back because he was short on money and " FIX " them . He finally changed his mind and gave me a fed ex account to pay for it .
When i questioned his method of repair he was going to take , he said he was going to weld the faces to meet the improperly made barrels and then drill open the holes wider .
I had no faith at this point and told him i wanted new barrels and i will pay to ship these paper weights back to him . He of course no longer responds .
To add insult to injury , the finish i wanted on the rims is blotchy and has fingerprints on them .
This is just insane , Ralph wright , opossum Jenkins , wright wheel what ever you want to call yourself , you took my money and gave me some crap no one would pay for .
I will promise you i will do everything in my power to keep you from butchering another wheel and ripping someone off again including getting a job as most employers do make a simple internet search .
I hope this reaches you and you do the right thing like you were supposed to in the first place as you kept assuring me that you "give me your word . if your not satisfied you make them again if you have to .
Well yeah buddy , you do have to " MAKE " them again .
pics of the wheels?
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[QUOTE=SKperformance;437002]I sent my wheels to Ralph and i wish it was a good story , i have been trying for 6 months and have had nothing but grief and excuses including my email was not working .
Maybe its because I am in Canada and he thinks i am too far to doo anything .
Long story short is i sent my OZ's to him paid him and when i opened the box it looked fine , when to mount the tires on them and they are wobbling like they are bent ???????????????
I look closely and he drilled all the holes wrong for the bolts to mount , then he obviously realized but instead of measuring and checking again he drilled again , it must of been by hand and all of them are off .
Now one side of the face is jammed against the barrel and one side has a gap !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who in their right mind would build a wheel and sell it when it isn't round , that's the point of wheel , isn't it ?
To top it off the face has a register which is supposed to butt up against the barrel like a hubcentric ring and that is off as well which is why the wheel is also not round .
His idea originally was to have me to pay and send them back because he was short on money and " FIX " them . He finally changed his mind and gave me a fed ex account to pay for it .
When i questioned his method of repair he was going to take , he said he was going to weld the faces to meet the improperly made barrels and then drill open the holes wider .
I had no faith at this point and told him i wanted new barrels and i will pay to ship these paper weights back to him . He of course no longer responds .
To add insult to injury , the finish i wanted on the rims is blotchy and has fingerprints on them .
This is just insane , Ralph wright , opossum Jenkins , wright wheel what ever you want to call yourself , you took my money and gave me some crap no one would pay for .
I will promise you i will do everything in my power to keep you from butchering another wheel and ripping someone off again including getting a job as most employers do make a simple internet search .
I hope this reaches you and you do the right thing like you were supposed to in the first place as you kept assuring me that you "give me your word . if your not satisfied you make them again if you have to .
Well yeah buddy , you do have to " MAKE " them again .[/QUOTE]
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i've been hearing nothing positive from any of these wheel builders lately. the work i have seen is plain unacceptable. needless to say i wll be rebuilding my own wheels w/ the assitance of local craftsmen i trust.
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i've been hearing nothing positive from any of these wheel builders lately. the work i have seen is plain unacceptable. needless to say i wll be rebuilding my own wheels w/ the assitance of local craftsmen i trust.
Thank god I am only refinishing wheels and not completely rebuilding the lips...Sucks to hear guys.
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Thank god I am only refinishing wheels and not completely rebuilding the lips...Sucks to hear guys.
just got my wheel rebarreled with wheelflip..cant complain thus far
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just got my wheel rebarreled with wheelflip..cant complain thus far
My wheels were rebuilt by B.Gorman...he went through the extra trouble of machining shims (at no extra charge) to ensure that the face was centered in the barrel. It did take a while, but I am happy with the results.

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My wheels were rebuilt by B.Gorman...he went through the extra trouble of machining shims (at no extra charge) to ensure that the face was centered in the barrel. It did take a while, but I am happy with the results.
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^^^... DAMN
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^^^... DAMN
Woot woot! Shiny...:dance:
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Woot woot! Shiny...:dance:
dang mr waijai bling bling!!
That Vaughn guy, I am assuming he does it to one piece wheels? I know it sounds super redumbdant but my Advan RCII's are 9.5 wide with 35 offset. which is the lowest widest you can go on them I want to them to be a 10in or a 10.5. So he would have to cut and add in the inner barrel. I want this for the S14. Cause I am going to need that width at least all around
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dang mr waijai bling bling!!
That Vaughn guy, I am assuming he does it to one piece wheels? I know it sounds super redumbdant but my Advan RCII's are 9.5 wide with 35 offset. which is the lowest widest you can go on them I want to them to be a 10in or a 10.5. So he would have to cut and add in the inner barrel. I want this for the S14. Cause I am going to need that width at least all around
Kouki Monster;439247 wrote:dang mr waijai bling bling!!
That Vaughn guy, I am assuming he does it to one piece wheels? I know it sounds super redumbdant but my Advan RCII's are 9.5 wide with 35 offset. which is the lowest widest you can go on them I want to them to be a 10in or a 10.5. So he would have to cut and add in the inner barrel. I want this for the S14. Cause I am going to need that width at least all around
Eric Vaughn can do it to one piece or two piece, the thing is he has to see the wheels' photos before he can give you a definite answer, he has to see if there's enough lip to safely weld the new one on, otherwise if the weld is too close to the place where the spokes meet the barrels then he wouldn't do it for safety concern.
Give him a call, he's a good guy and very willing to help.
http://www.ericvaughnmachine.com/
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[QUOTE=Kouki Monster;439247]dang mr waijai bling bling!!
That Vaughn guy, I am assuming he does it to one piece wheels? I know it sounds super redumbdant but my Advan RCII's are 9.5 wide with 35 offset. which is the lowest widest you can go on them I want to them to be a 10in or a 10.5. So he would have to cut and add in the inner barrel. I want this for the S14. Cause I am going to need that width at least all around[/QUOTE]
Eric Vaughn can do it to one piece or two piece, the thing is he has to see the wheels' photos before he can give you a definite answer, he has to see if there's enough lip to safely weld the new one on, otherwise if the weld is too close to the place where the spokes meet the barrels then he wouldn't do it for safety concern.
Give him a call, he's a good guy and very willing to help.
[url]http://www.ericvaughnmachine.com/[/url]
mucho appreciato. Not looking to do it right this second. but I will keep in mind for sure
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mucho appreciato. Not looking to do it right this second. but I will keep in mind for sure
^ wheelflip can do one piece.

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^ wheelflip can do one piece.
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antbo;339973 wrote:I was thinkin of that. But I think he likes word of mouth better, idk ill ask
Simple Wheel Werks will Have You Waiting on Your Rims for 6 Months
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/cl-of-southern-california/603683-whats-up-with-simple-wheel-werks-2.html
Go to
http://wheelflip.com/ Better Quality/Rates and Turn Around Time.
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[QUOTE=antbo;339973]I was thinkin of that. But I think he likes word of mouth better, idk ill ask[/QUOTE]
Simple Wheel Werks will Have You Waiting on Your Rims for 6 Months
[url]http://www.clublexus.com/forums/cl-of-southern-california/603683-whats-up-with-simple-wheel-werks-2.html[/url]
Go to [url]http://wheelflip.com/[/url] Better Quality/Rates and Turn Around Time.
^^those dudes seem like a joke to me, i have had friends waiting for wheels for a while, not only that when they got them they were built incorrectly.
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^^those dudes seem like a joke to me, i have had friends waiting for wheels for a while, not only that when they got them they were built incorrectly.
Simple wheel werks do wicked refinishing and polishing but I bought a set of weds that had been built by them and they did a shit silicone job that leaked.... Like visible gaps (that I didn't notice until I mounted a tire and was leaking at the flange)
But other than that, those guys are pretty cool.
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Simple wheel werks do wicked refinishing and polishing but I bought a set of weds that had been built by them and they did a shit silicone job that leaked.... Like visible gaps (that I didn't notice until I mounted a tire and was leaking at the flange)
But other than that, those guys are pretty cool.
cool guys dont always do good business, just saying.
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cool guys dont always do good business, just saying.
homie hookup quality work for homie hookup price. that's all i'm saying.
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homie hookup quality work for homie hookup price. that's all i'm saying.
I don't mean it like they're just cool guys. They're helpful as hell when they don't have to be. The work they do is pretty solid.
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I don't mean it like they're just cool guys. They're helpful as hell when they don't have to be. The work they do is pretty solid.