[ASK] wheels fitment question (need pro advice)

hey guys, i want to do wheels calculation for my ride,

[img]http://www.permaisuri.com/include/read.php?file=autoshow/183003.jpg[/img]

this Mercedes W211
using
Vellano
20x9 offset +24
20x11 offset +24
this is what the owner said i don't know if it's right or not
i got this picture from a website,
if i calculate it right the rear got 4.1" lip with this setup and 3.1" for the front,


if you guys look from that picture, can i go like 5" lip for the rear +1"  or  4.5" lip?
(without widebody) but not with 11 width but with 10.5 or 10

like these
20x10.5 offset +8 (w/ 4.5"lip) offset -5 (w/ 5"lip)
20x10 offset +1 (w/ 4.5"lip) offset -11 (w/ 5"lip)
which one should i choose, or you guys have other size recommendation for me? any opinion are very much welcome

i'm looking for this kind of look

[IMG]http://www.cmpixels.com/wp-content/gallery/stance-nation-meet-amp-greet/img_4020.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.cmpixels.com/wp-content/gallery/stance-nation-meet-amp-greet/img_4018.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.cmpixels.com/wp-content/gallery/stance-nation-meet-amp-greet/img_4019.jpg[/IMG]

IF you are poking, you can go a little more aggressive but the amount of lip you get depends on the wheels.   Certain wheels give off more than others.  Personally, I think poking when parked sucks.  You need to drive pretty high

[QUOTE=widebody_Q;340981]Personally, I think poking when parked sucks. You need to drive pretty high[/QUOTE]
 
:biggthumpup::biggthumpup: 
 
I wouldn't go so far as to say sucks
I would jus say that I prefer to ride as low as I can w/ an agressive stance VS riding around high and then parking at a aggressive stance.
 
That's the homies CC posted and his ride height to me is pretty acceptable to me even though it's not super low. I can live w/ that hahaha!

But mayne riding around low is FUN!!!! at times! LOL! :saiyancrunks:
 
sorry I'm no help lol

hahaha, oke than what about if i want to have like your fitment PANCAKE? what size should i choose?

should i just go with 4.1" lip like the picture? or i can go a lil bit wider?

Sucks because with 3-4mm less aggressive wheels, you can drive how ever low you want.  You can still drive sort of low while poking but you need to run crazy tires stretches that don't last on heavy luxury sedans like they would on lighter vw's.

[QUOTE=widebody_Q;341003]Sucks because with 3-4mm less aggressive wheels, you can drive how ever low you want.  You can still drive sort of low while poking but you need to run crazy tires stretches that don't last on heavy luxury sedans like they would on lighter vw's.[/QUOTE]

thanks for the recommendation , i agree with you, i just never thought about it before :pat:
oke what if i want less aggressive and can drive low also what size do you recommend?

did i miss something or has platform not even been mention? ride height? type of suspension?

i might use air suspension, ride height watever height that looks good and driveable :biggthumpup:

that really doesn't help the cause. you can't get that fitment without air, and you can't drive like that with air. height affects camber which determines width/offest. w/o platform there's no tellin. please provide the relevant details for any hope of help.

[QUOTE=BLKonBLK98;341121]that really doesn't help the cause. you can't get that fitment without air, and you can't drive like that with air. height affects camber which determines width/offest. w/o platform there's no tellin. please provide the relevant details for any hope of help.[/QUOTE]

yea i will use air suspension, i might go with Air Runner. i will nott drive like that with coil i know that.

i agree with widebody_Q point of view, like he said less aggresive than that VW, still can drive low, and don't have to go with crazy tires stretches..

any suggestion on the size?

i give up.

[QUOTE=BLKonBLK98;341580]i give up.[/QUOTE]

:smiley-rofl:

what kind of car do you drive ori??

What blkonblk98 is saying that you have still not told us what you drive which is the first important thing:pat:. exactely what suspension your goimg to be on and such which is a big factor

Are you doing the calculations to fit on a W211?

yes correct w211, i'm asking that picture showing w211 with aggressive lips, can i go more aggressive than that?

it's 20x11 et24

i'm thinking going with 4.5" or 5" lip is that possible?
mine non AMG version

[QUOTE=LORD-ORI;341667]yes correct w211, i'm asking that picture showing w211 with aggressive lips, can i go more aggressive than that?

it's 20x11 et24

i'm thinking going with 4.5" or 5" lip is that possible?
mine non AMG version[/QUOTE]
Cool, just by looking at it I'd say you could go more aggressive no problem, depending on suspension, and of course past that, how much body work you are willing to get done to make them fit. Anything is possible, but on a 211, I'm guessing you could go more aggressive  than the one shown with a simple roll or even slight pull. Have you joined any of the MB forums (ie, MBworld, Benzworld or myMBonline) to see what other w211 owner's specs are? If not, that would be the best starting pointe.

i already joined MBworld and myMB ,  but more active in mbworld, they don't do aggressive wheels set-up there, they more going for speed and performance than looks. i'm willing to go with roll and pull or any modification except widebody. :)

this is the most aggressive set-up in w211 i found in mbworld, he said he's using CLS  wheels setup with 4" lips on the rear but he doesn't know the actual offset and width

[IMG]http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac229/orihino/more2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac229/orihino/more.jpg[/IMG]


i will use air runner

[IMG]http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac229/orihino/Airsuspension.jpg[/IMG]

i got news from a wheels dealer in, here's a 5" lip on a 20X10.5 on w211 wagon...but it stuck out about an inch...and he have a 265/30/20 tire on it. 

[IMG]http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m39/billkw/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20100905_123815.jpg[/IMG]

i'm not gonna use this wheels but he showing me this to tell me 5" lips on rear of w211 is possible but not with flat face wheels or you can say straight spoke, this Zauber Gettin Spoke...with spokes that steps out into the barrel a bit.

so i need confirmation from you guys, if i go with flat face wheels straight spoke and use 5" lips , it might come out 0.5" more, do you think W211 able to use 5" lips with straight spoke???

:innoutrofl2:

[URL="willtheyfit.com"]willtheyfit.com[/URL]  <-- seriously this site works!

[IMG]http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac229/orihino/5inchspokeoutlips4.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac229/orihino/5inchspokeoutlips3.jpg[/IMG]

from this picture, can some one tell me if the lips going out 0.5" more can it still fit the car?


4" and 5" different same car w211

[IMG]http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac229/orihino/4or5.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=CubanGS;342078][URL="willtheyfit.com"]willtheyfit.com[/URL]  <-- seriously this site works![/QUOTE]

thanks for the input, here's the result 
[IMG]http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac229/orihino/willtheyfit.jpg[/IMG]

20x10 et9 4inch lip
[IMG]http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac229/orihino/width10offset9lip4inch.jpg[/IMG]

stop trying to buy wheels by the lip size. study up on width, offset, and disk type. you've got all the information you need to calculate the fitment, you're asking to be spoonfed.

looks like you can fit a 6 inch lip.

[QUOTE=BLKonBLK98;342437]stop trying to buy wheels by the lip size. study up on width, offset, and disk type. you've got all the information you need to calculate the fitment, you're asking to be spoonfed.[/QUOTE]

have to agree =/ buy what YOU WANT! and tailor your car to them!

oke thanks, seems like no one can give me a good recommendation on wheels size, will try it myself.

[QUOTE=LORD-ORI;342511]oke thanks, seems like no one can give me a good recommendation on wheels size, will try it myself.[/QUOTE]

the difficulty is that not very many people here have a 211 (or even mercedes in general) so there isn't a fitment we can recommend casually. BoB98 is right -- you can't figure out fitment by the size of the lip. face design, offset, disk size, etc. (of course, this depends on manufacturer) will all change the size of the lip, so you need to concentrate on width and offset to get the fitment you want.

good luck! can't wait to see an aggressive e-class here :)