Thread #23501

Compressing springs instead of cutting springs?

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RajahCastiOctober 10, 2010
#347934

Compressing springs instead of cutting springs?

While i was talking to my friend about cutting my springs to lower the car, he told me that compresing two coils together is a better way of doing it? He told lots of people do it instead of cutting? Anyone know about this or how to do it if its possible?
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While i was talking to my friend about cutting my springs to lower the car, he told me that compresing two coils together is a better way of doing it? He told lots of people do it instead of cutting? Anyone know about this or how to do it if its possible?
5t341tHOctober 11, 2010
#347966
if u like metal-metal sounds....
dont be cheap please.
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if u like metal-metal sounds....
dont be cheap please.
OGOctober 11, 2010
#347969
sounds like he's talking about strapping them. don't know a lot about it but i think its pretty common in drag racing.
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sounds like he's talking about strapping them. don't know a lot about it but i think its pretty common in drag racing.
NELSON09October 11, 2010
#347993
I've heard of that too. He's talking about heating them up and compacting them. I think heating springs will compromise the spring to say the least. I've also seen those spring clamps too, lol. There is a lot available for your chassis bro. I'd cut them before either of those options. I'm on cut oem coils myself.
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I've heard of that too. He's talking about heating them up and compacting them. I think heating springs will compromise the spring to say the least. I've also seen those spring clamps too, lol. There is a lot available for your chassis bro. I'd cut them before either of those options. I'm on cut oem coils myself.
RajahCastiOctober 11, 2010
#347994
NELSON09;347993 wrote:I've heard of that too. He's talking about heating them up and compacting them. I think heating springs will compromise the spring to say the least. I've also seen those spring clamps too, lol. There is a lot available for your chassis bro. I'd cut them before either of those options. I'm on cut oem coils myself.


i have insurance lowering springs but its not that low. I have brand new kyb shocks do you think cutting one or half of a coil would effect the ride very much?
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[QUOTE=NELSON09;347993]I've heard of that too. He's talking about heating them up and compacting them. I think heating springs will compromise the spring to say the least. I've also seen those spring clamps too, lol. There is a lot available for your chassis bro. I'd cut them before either of those options. I'm on cut oem coils myself.[/QUOTE]
 
i have insurance lowering springs but its not that low. I have brand new kyb shocks do you think cutting one or half of a coil would effect the ride very much?
brainneededOctober 11, 2010
#347998
NELSON09;347993 wrote:I've heard of that too. He's talking about heating them up and compacting them. I think heating springs will compromise the spring to say the least. I've also seen those spring clamps too, lol. There is a lot available for your chassis bro. I'd cut them before either of those options. I'm on cut oem coils myself.


wrd. it is straight up G.H.E.T.T.O. you could end up snapping the spring. but... hey what works, works. if you want to be cheap.... there are always options. :smiley-rofl:
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[QUOTE=NELSON09;347993]I've heard of that too. He's talking about heating them up and compacting them. I think heating springs will compromise the spring to say the least. I've also seen those spring clamps too, lol. There is a lot available for your chassis bro. I'd cut them before either of those options. I'm on cut oem coils myself.[/QUOTE]

wrd. it is straight up G.H.E.T.T.O. you could end up snapping the spring. but... hey what works, works. if you want to be cheap.... there are always options. :smiley-rofl:
alphaOctober 11, 2010
#348003
very popular over here in nz...
aslong as its done by a pro, than no problems.
ive been that way before and never had a problem with them.
but never torch em!thats when they will crack and sag.
a pro will heat compress them and dip in some stuff to retain the strength.
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very popular over here in nz...
aslong as its done by a pro, than no problems.
ive been that way before and never had a problem with them.
but never torch em!thats when they will crack and sag.
a pro will heat compress them and dip in some stuff to retain the strength.
RajahCastiOctober 11, 2010
#348006
alpha;348003 wrote:very popular over here in nz...
aslong as its done by a pro, than no problems.
ive been that way before and never had a problem with them.
but never torch em!thats when they will crack and sag.
a pro will heat compress them and dip in some stuff to retain the strength.


so does it ride better than cut springs or is it practically the same?
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[QUOTE=alpha;348003]very popular over here in nz...
aslong as its done by a pro, than no problems.
ive been that way before and never had a problem with them.
but never torch em!thats when they will crack and sag.
a pro will heat compress them and dip in some stuff to retain the strength.[/QUOTE]
 
so does it ride better than cut springs or is it practically the same?
alphaOctober 11, 2010
#348007
RajahCasti;348006 wrote:so does it ride better than cut springs or is it practically the same?


its not bouncy like chopped springs, but definitely much stiffer than standard.
i have compressed RSR springs in my sentia at the moment and the ride is simply amazing, it sticks in the corners like a train on rail tracks.
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[QUOTE=RajahCasti;348006]so does it ride better than cut springs or is it practically the same?[/QUOTE]

its not bouncy like chopped springs, but definitely much stiffer than standard.
i have compressed RSR springs in my sentia at the moment and the ride is simply amazing, it sticks in the corners like a train on rail tracks.
F.L.S.October 11, 2010
#348054
I was on cut Teins w/ KYB SR's on my Y33 for years, it rode great.
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I was on cut Teins w/ KYB SR's on my Y33 for years, it rode great.
CubanGSOctober 11, 2010
#348069
from personal experience.. if you need to go low and cant afford coil overs just cut the springs! atleast this way its easier to get the perfect 'temporary' ride height! fuk it why not!
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from personal experience.. if you need to go low and cant afford coil overs just cut the springs! atleast this way its easier to get the perfect 'temporary' ride height! fuk it why not!
NELSON09October 11, 2010
#348107
RajahCasti;347994 wrote:i have insurance lowering springs but its not that low. I have brand new kyb shocks do you think cutting one or half of a coil would effect the ride very much?


I don't have any experience with insurance springs myself, so I can't really say one way or the other. I can tell you that I've cut 1.75 off the front and 2 1/4 from the rears and it's fine. Keep in mind my set up is independent suspension on all four corners - where the spring/shock are next to each other as opposed to the shock centered in the spring. I think you best bet would be to search other's with your same car/spring that have been through it. Also, one thing that may be of some help is to cut from the "dead" spring. Generally drop springs will have a few coils either at one of the ends that are closer to each other. Supposedly that is the best way to not effect, or affect as little of the spring rate as possible. Good luck and get low =)
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[QUOTE=RajahCasti;347994]i have insurance lowering springs but its not that low. I have brand new kyb shocks do you think cutting one or half of a coil would effect the ride very much?[/QUOTE]

I don't have any experience with insurance springs myself, so I can't really say one way or the other. I can tell you that I've cut 1.75 off the front and 2 1/4 from the rears and it's fine. Keep in mind my set up is independent suspension on all four corners - where the spring/shock are next to each other as opposed to the shock centered in the spring. I think you best bet would be to search other's with your same car/spring that have been through it. Also, one thing that may be of some help is to cut from the "dead" spring. Generally drop springs will have a few coils either at one of the ends that are closer to each other. Supposedly that is the best way to not effect, or affect as little of the spring rate as possible. Good luck and get low =)
VipObsessionOctober 13, 2010
#348387
cut the springs. why not? VIP on a budget haha a buddy of mines cut his springs on his ls400 and it rode like shit :pat:
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cut the springs. why not? VIP on a budget haha a buddy of mines cut his springs on his ls400 and it rode like shit :pat:
F.L.S.October 13, 2010
#348453
I cut the springs on my Y33 Q 4 years ago, then cut them more earlier this year. It rode great w/ KYB SR shocks.

I cut the springs on my Y34 M weeks after getting it in May. With stock shocks, it rides great.

But hey, what do I know :runcoold:
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I cut the springs on my Y33 Q 4 years ago, then cut them more earlier this year. It rode great w/ KYB SR shocks.

I cut the springs on my Y34 M weeks after getting it in May. With stock shocks, it rides great. 

But hey, what do I know :runcoold:
CaoboyOctober 13, 2010
#348478
Just sell the springs and save up for bags. There really is no point in causing stresses on your suspension with spring rates messed up, car too low and bottoming the shocks out and blowing them out, in turn messing up your bushings all over the suspension.

I was riding on some blown Tein Flex coils up front, and ended up having to replace most of the suspension bushings/tie rods/Lower Ball Joints, because of it.

It might look cool, but this isn't a 1800lb Honda, it's a freakin' 3000lb car, if not more.
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Just sell the springs and save up for bags. There really is no point in causing stresses on your suspension with spring rates messed up, car too low and bottoming the shocks out and blowing them out, in turn messing up your bushings all over the suspension. 

I was riding on some blown Tein Flex coils up front, and ended up having to replace most of the suspension bushings/tie rods/Lower Ball Joints, because of it. 

It might look cool, but this isn't a 1800lb Honda, it's a freakin' 3000lb car, if not more.
alphaOctober 14, 2010
#348616
Caoboy;348478 wrote:Just sell the springs and save up for bags. There really is no point in causing stresses on your suspension with spring rates messed up, car too low and bottoming the shocks out and blowing them out, in turn messing up your bushings all over the suspension.

I was riding on some blown Tein Flex coils up front, and ended up having to replace most of the suspension bushings/tie rods/Lower Ball Joints, because of it.

It might look cool, but this isn't a 1800lb Honda, it's a freakin' 3000lb car, if not more.


i have never, ever had any problems with my compressed springs.
if you get shocks shortened, you should bottom out anyways.
my shocks are shortened and it rides just fine.have done almost 15000kms with them so far and no issues what so ever...

but riding on blown shocks is just like asking for trouble in wrong neighborhood if you know what i mean so no wonder your suspension did poo poo:)
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[QUOTE=Caoboy;348478]Just sell the springs and save up for bags. There really is no point in causing stresses on your suspension with spring rates messed up, car too low and bottoming the shocks out and blowing them out, in turn messing up your bushings all over the suspension. 

I was riding on some blown Tein Flex coils up front, and ended up having to replace most of the suspension bushings/tie rods/Lower Ball Joints, because of it. 

It might look cool, but this isn't a 1800lb Honda, it's a freakin' 3000lb car, if not more.[/QUOTE]

i have never, ever had any problems with my compressed springs.
if you get shocks shortened, you should bottom out anyways.
my shocks are shortened and it rides just fine.have done almost 15000kms with them so far and no issues what so ever...

but riding on blown shocks is just like asking for trouble in wrong neighborhood if you know what i mean so no wonder your suspension did poo poo:)
elpresidenteOctober 14, 2010
#348653
The biggest question really is:

"Are they progressive rate springs or not?"

If they are progressive rate, then cutting them will screw up the ride quality/feel of the suspension. If they aren't, then it really shouldn't have much effect at all on the suspension other than lowering it. Progressive rate springs are wound tighter at the top and bottom where as linear rate are wound the same through the length of the spring.
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The biggest question really is:

"Are they progressive rate springs or not?"

If they are progressive rate, then cutting them will screw up the ride quality/feel of the suspension.  If they aren't, then it really shouldn't have much effect at all on the suspension other than lowering it.  Progressive rate springs are wound tighter at the top and bottom where as linear rate are wound the same through the length of the spring.
rich27October 14, 2010
#348663
I would just save for the coilovers and get it done right the first time.
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I would just save for the coilovers and get it done right the first time.