Noob question about camber
I've been looking around at pictures of y'all's cars, and I've got a noob question - how much increased tire wear do you get from running that insane negative camber? Is there any way to counteract that, or do y'all just have to deal with it?
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I've been looking around at pictures of y'all's cars, and I've got a noob question - how much increased tire wear do you get from running that insane negative camber? Is there any way to counteract that, or do y'all just have to deal with it?
at least from my point of view, I just dealt with it.. at the same time.. I don't even get to drive the car anymore :(
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at least from my point of view, I just dealt with it.. at the same time.. I don't even get to drive the car anymore :(
camber doesn't neccesarily cause increased tire wear per say... it definitely decreases the contact patch of the tire causeing portions of the tire to wear more quickly than others. The main reason tires wear down after lowering a car is because all aspects of the suspension are affected by dropping it. In the end, toe will kill tires way faster than camber, although in theory to get the best tire wear, I guess it 'should' be square with the road at all time 90* angle stuff. 3-4* of camber really isn't bad on tires if you have everything else in check. Also, fliping sides if you can is a way to wear the other part of the tire that's not in contact with pavement most of the time if you're running lots of camber.
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camber doesn't neccesarily cause increased tire wear per say... it definitely decreases the contact patch of the tire causeing portions of the tire to wear more quickly than others. The main reason tires wear down after lowering a car is because all aspects of the suspension are affected by dropping it. In the end, toe will kill tires way faster than camber, although in theory to get the best tire wear, I guess it 'should' be square with the road at all time 90* angle stuff. 3-4* of camber really isn't bad on tires if you have everything else in check. Also, fliping sides if you can is a way to wear the other part of the tire that's not in contact with pavement most of the time if you're running lots of camber.
Would you ask the same question on a drift forum?
Its not really that bad. I have 6.5' camber and after 3 months I still havent needed to flip the tyres.
Not sure why people are so scared of camber. Or replacing their tyres more than once every 5 years... They arent *that* expensive!!!
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Would you ask the same question on a drift forum?
Its not really that bad. I have 6.5' camber and after 3 months I still havent needed to flip the tyres.
Not sure why people are so scared of camber. Or replacing their tyres more than once every 5 years... They arent *that* expensive!!!
Not *that* expensive, sure, but I have other priorities to spend money on too. Yeah, I want to have a good looking car, but I'd kind of like to buy a house at some point soon too...
I autocross, so I understand that increased wear is a fact of life from use patterns - but why dramatically increase your tire wear on a DD?
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Not *that* expensive, sure, but I have other priorities to spend money on too. Yeah, I want to have a good looking car, but I'd kind of like to buy a house at some point soon too...
I autocross, so I understand that increased wear is a fact of life from use patterns - but why dramatically increase your tire wear on a DD?
plus_sze wrote:why dramatically increase your tire wear on a DD?
Is that why you asked the question....... why we do it. LQQKS HOT on a hard to fit Wheel get that extra wide fat look to it.
On a car thats just dropped with room in the fenders doesnt need camber per say unless the DD wants some.
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[QUOTE=plus_sze]why dramatically increase your tire wear on a DD?[/QUOTE]
Is that why you asked the question....... why we do it. LQQKS HOT on a hard to fit Wheel get that extra wide fat look to it.
On a car thats just dropped with room in the fenders doesnt need camber per say unless the DD wants some.
{-.-};36431 wrote:Is that why you asked the question....... why we do it. LQQKS HOT on a hard to fit Wheel get that extra wide fat look to it.
On a car thats just dropped with room in the fenders doesnt need camber per say unless the DD wants some.
Yup! Exactly what Robert said. Camber is used to maximize wheel width and lip size. Some people run with it and some people don't, it's just one of those things that someone has to decide on. Running camber for the sake of just running camber is not why it's done. If you were thinking that it is, then you are mistaken.
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[QUOTE={-.-};36431]Is that why you asked the question....... why we do it. LQQKS HOT on a hard to fit Wheel get that extra wide fat look to it.
On a car thats just dropped with room in the fenders doesnt need camber per say unless the DD wants some.[/QUOTE]
Yup! Exactly what Robert said. Camber is used to maximize wheel width and lip size. Some people run with it and some people don't, it's just one of those things that someone has to decide on. Running camber for the sake of just running camber is not why it's done. If you were thinking that it is, then you are mistaken.
I guess it all depends on your idea of fun... An afternoon auto-xing or drifting would eat through a set of tyres, and yet this would be acceptable because doing that makes you happy
Then there is the sort of happiness you get when you roll down the street and every second car nearly has an accident trying to catch a second glance at your car. To me that justifies buying tyres more often than normal...
But I didnt buy this car so i can 'settle down' and 'grow up', i bought it so i can floss in a shit-hot car with that crazy Japanese vip look. I think when you try to look at this style from a practicality point of view (as alot of the ex-drifters and ex-tuners are trying to do), it doesnt make sense. In the end, those people will quickly move on to a happy medium of a luxury car with some decent wheels (EXE style, to give it a name), or just back to their performance cars.
Real vip cars are not very good daily drivers. They are not built to handle well, save tyres or clear speedbumps. They are built to look good and stand out.
Thats not to say you cant daily drive them (some people on here do), it just means you gotta make sacrifices if you are going to do that. I catch public transport to work so I wouldnt classify my car as a daily driver - but i still drive around 200-300 miles a week without problems
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I guess it all depends on your idea of fun... An afternoon auto-xing or drifting would eat through a set of tyres, and yet this would be acceptable because doing that makes you happy
Then there is the sort of happiness you get when you roll down the street and every second car nearly has an accident trying to catch a second glance at your car. To me that justifies buying tyres more often than normal...
But I didnt buy this car so i can 'settle down' and 'grow up', i bought it so i can floss in a shit-hot car with that crazy Japanese vip look. I think when you try to look at this style from a practicality point of view (as alot of the ex-drifters and ex-tuners are trying to do), it doesnt make sense. In the end, those people will quickly move on to a happy medium of a luxury car with some decent wheels (EXE style, to give it a name), or just back to their performance cars.
Real vip cars are not very good daily drivers. They are not built to handle well, save tyres or clear speedbumps. They are built to look good and stand out.
Thats not to say you cant daily drive them (some people on here do), it just means you gotta make sacrifices if you are going to do that. I catch public transport to work so I wouldnt classify my car as a daily driver - but i still drive around 200-300 miles a week without problems
-3.5 all around. Even wear after 10,000 kms
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-3.5 all around. Even wear after 10,000 kms