Rebarrel my Weds Kranze Vishunu's

So I've started to look into rebarreling my 20" Weds Kranze Vishunu's.  Current specs are:

20x9 +32 mid disk (needs spacer to clear bbk)
20x10 +37 low disk

I'm currently using 20mm spacers to get them fitted a bit better, but I'd like to rebarrel to get more lip and not use spacers.  I'm thinking 4" lip front and 5" lip rear...i would do body work to fit them if needed.  Would probably still need a spacer, no matter how I rebarrel for the fronts to clear b/c of mid disk.

[img]http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k76/moog177/Lexus%20LS430/WaldLS430001.jpg[/img]

There's a vendor on Club Lexus that sells inners & outers for $275 each, which is a bit steep.  I've also heard that the way Weds drills their faces is a bit different than a traditional 3-piece wheel.  Can anyone comment or have experience with that?

I know someone who can do them for $240 each, plus the refinishing, looking like 13-1400 total, they drill the barrels to match the face so that's not a problem. I'm considering doing my wheels too. 

On a side note, your car is teh hotness.

True I rebarrel my work ls406 and had to redrill my fronts due to the 5 inch lip they had in stock was 40 bolts and my work have 30 but my 7inch rear had to be machined so those arrived blank and all that was done was match the holes and drilled.

[QUOTE=F.L.S.;392847]I know someone who can do them for $240 each, plus the refinishing, looking like 13-1400 total, they drill the barrels to match the face so that's not a problem. I'm considering doing my wheels too. 

On a side note, your car is teh hotness.[/QUOTE]

can you PM me/post up their info?

Hey Waijai, I dont know if it'd help u or not but I have (2) 20x9.5" barrels with 3" lips... maybe they'd b good for the fronts? 
 
I was going to rebarrel my current wheels but you know the dealio...

[QUOTE=lunek;392854]True I rebarrel my work ls406 and had to redrill my fronts due to the 5 inch lip they had in stock was 40 bolts and my work have 30 but my 7inch rear had to be machined so those arrived blank and all that was done was match the holes and drilled.[/QUOTE]

7" rear lips, bosssssss

Try this guy, Im sure he can help you out

[url]http://wright-wheels.com/[/url]

if you think 275 is steep try jdm barrels...but for me if the wheel is not discontinued go buy the correct one in the first place and sell the old one. probably end up overall cheaper that way. since you didn't pay too much for the vishunu in the first place.

[QUOTE=REV-01;393008]but for me if the wheel is not discontinued go buy the correct one in the first place and sell the old one.[/QUOTE]

this

The reason I'm shying away from selling this setup and buying the "right" setup is because the used wheel market isn't too friendly to sellers right now.  I believe I'll be at a net loss if I tried to sell my current setup.

Thinking about doing a colored step lip too, which Weds doesn't offer.  One of a kind, personally customized > off the shelf availability.

[QUOTE=knguyen;392990]Try this guy, Im sure he can help you out

[url]http://wright-wheels.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

Thanks, gave them a call!

[QUOTE=knguyen;392990]Try this guy, Im sure he can help you out
 
[URL]http://wright-wheels.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]
 
Yup these guys are verrry legit :biggthumpup:

Ralph did my 20" SSR Noble and did a good job..

[QUOTE=waijai;393051]The reason I'm shying away from selling this setup and buying the "right" setup is because the used wheel market isn't too friendly to sellers right now.  I believe I'll be at a net loss if I tried to sell my current setup.

Thinking about doing a colored step lip too, which Weds doesn't offer.  One of a kind, personally customized > off the shelf availability.[/QUOTE]

so you are planning to go back to 21"? weds can do color barrels such as bronze and black. unless you want really custom colors.

and after all that work like you mention you still rocking spacers...

nothing wrong with rebarrelling or rocking spacers IMO, but being a net loss when selling a product IS what is supposed to  happen haha

wrd, but I got some wheels rebarrel, and I can redirect you to them. I should get my wheels next week, so if you want to check out the results before you do it. But Paulo or Virgina can handle you, very nice people: [url]http://simplewheelwerks.com/Home.html[/url]

tell them Khanh sent you

[QUOTE=REV-01;393201]so you are planning to go back to 21"? weds can do color barrels such as bronze and black. unless you want really custom colors.

and after all that work like you mention you still rocking spacers...[/QUOTE]

Nah going to stick with 20s and do a regular lip, and I do have custom color in mind...don't think this color has been done before.

Nothing wrong with still rocking spacers.

[QUOTE=khanhdom;393225]wrd, but I got some wheels rebarrel, and I can redirect you to them. I should get my wheels next week, so if you want to check out the results before you do it. But Paulo or Virgina can handle you, very nice people: [url]http://simplewheelwerks.com/Home.html[/url]

tell them Khanh sent you[/QUOTE]

Cool thanks Khanh.  Gio told me of a local place the both of us might go to since he's working on his custom sets.  If that doesn't work out, i'll contact Paulo/Virgina

3-piece wheel repair off 35 and walnut hill area should be able to help you out with what you need

[QUOTE=Y34-619;393054]Yup these guys are verrry legit :biggthumpup:[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blitz;393190]Ralph did my 20" SSR Noble and did a good job..[/QUOTE]

Yessir, Ralph is your guy for the job!! And he is not part or has any connection with SSW.

[QUOTE=khanhdom;393225]wrd, but I got some wheels rebarrel, and I can redirect you to them. I should get my wheels next week, so if you want to check out the results before you do it. But Paulo or Virgina can handle you, very nice people: [url]http://simplewheelwerks.com/Home.html[/url]

tell them Khanh sent you[/QUOTE]

Guess who they get their lips from.

Went to 3-piece wheel repair here in Dallas...didn't get a good vibe from them and the pricing was a bit high.  I've narrowed my choice down to either Wright Wheels or another guy on the east coast.

Here is a recent set Ralph did for me :biggthumpup:
[IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/2vngz6q.jpg[/IMG]

Now that's clean^^^^ did he do the face too?

[QUOTE=knguyen;395743]Here is a recent set Ralph did for me :biggthumpup:
[IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/2vngz6q.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

how much do they usually charge for a re-lip?

[QUOTE=Dranom;395875]how much do they usually charge for a re-lip?[/QUOTE]

e-mail [email]info@wheelflip.com[/email] for more info

[QUOTE=waijai;395691]Went to 3-piece wheel repair here in Dallas...didn't get a good vibe from them and the pricing was a bit high.  I've narrowed my choice down to either Wright Wheels or another guy on the east coast.[/QUOTE]

What is the other company on the east coast?

I can vouch for the fellas at Wright Wheels.
They are down to earth and definitely know whats up.

[QUOTE=simpl cb7;395929]What is the other company on the east coast?[/QUOTE]

I'm curious myself, and where are they?  Sending wheels out to california is a nay-no. You end up paying for a cheap set of wheels just in shipping, LOL!

[QUOTE=GEE702;395755]Now that's clean^^^^ did he do the face too?[/QUOTE]


I'm interested in knowing this also.

I like the idea I might try to do this to my ac supremes when u get my new wheels

[QUOTE=Avantgarde;396025]I'm curious myself, and where are they?  Sending wheels out to california is a nay-no. You end up paying for a cheap set of wheels just in shipping, LOL!




I'm interested in knowing this also.[/QUOTE]

Shipping is under $100 each way, and almost all of the suppliers are out here.

when you factor in the prices that these guys are doing rebuilds for the cost of shipping is negligable. they have some great pricing.

Bought a different set of wheels to rebarrel, since I just sold my Vishunus.

Getting all new chrome outer lips for $300/each.

i got my lip machine and chrome for that price which i think is pretty good considering i dont have to ship my wheels out. Some pics of the lip when i first got them.

as you can see these are blank lips. I just drilled 4 holes to bolt the face up for the time being.
[IMG]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w100/spoolngst/2011-02-28174348.jpg[/IMG]

close up on the lip after chrome. Different tooling was needed to get a 7inch lip
[IMG]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w100/spoolngst/2011-02-28174421.jpg[/IMG]

and final assembly with new inners and outers.
[IMG]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w100/spoolngst/2011-04-11165335.jpg[/IMG]

test fitted on car
[IMG]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w100/spoolngst/2011-04-12122111.jpg[/IMG]

where can I get the lips for $300 each?

^ that right there is MOTHER FUCKIN SICK

Dear. Gawd. I'm in for some amazing pics when they are all done.

[QUOTE=lunek;396193]i got my lip machine and chrome for that price which i think is pretty good considering i dont have to ship my wheels out. Some pics of the lip when i first got them.

as you can see these are blank lips. I just drilled 4 holes to bolt the face up for the time being.[/QUOTE]

The guys over there quoted me MUCH more than that, which is why I am not going to them.

[QUOTE=BAHC;396204]^ that right there is MOTHER FUCKIN SICK[/QUOTE]x2 way to baller

[QUOTE=jeebus;396199]where can I get the lips for $300 each?[/QUOTE]
 
$300 for outer lips only isn't that great of a price, especially when they're blank. i could get them for that for you, but if we're talking about the same wheels you will need inners and outers.
 
[QUOTE=BAHC;396204]^ that right there is MOTHER FUCKIN SICK[/QUOTE]
 
x2 +1

$300 for Chrome lips is what I'm getting.

it's not a bad price but it's not great either. custom drill/bore?

Ralph is your Guy ... Hands down is building my buddy's OZ opera to like super baller status  like 10.5 @ negeatives all round  ..... i have seen his work and i would send work to him even from canada ..:biggthumpup:

[url=http://www.mbworld.org/forums/wheels-tires/359897-b-gorman-aka-will-werks-wills-wheels-wheel-ologist-shop-video.html]B.Gorman[/url] on the east coast has my wheels. He does a ton of rebuilding for Mercedes and Euros.  Great guy to talk to and really has a passion for building wheels.  Got hooked up w/ him through my buddy [url=http://g35driver.com/forums/picture-share/357375-robzones-new-look-audi-stanced-stretched.html]Rob[/url]

Specs of new setup will be:

20x10 +18 / 3" lip
20x11 +12 / 4.5" lip

Not going to go too crazy, since I don't want to do any extensive fender work.  I will most likely do both new inner and outer barrels.  Just trying to decide what kind of special finish I want on the faces.

Maybe I should do a 20x10 +5 / 3.5" lip in the front.

Awesome find for your wheel guy. He is like 4hrs away from me. Im waiting to see how your wheels turn out.

Great choice.  I have seen his work on mbworld.org

Very nice, can't wait to see the finishing product!

[QUOTE=waijai;398277][URL="http://www.mbworld.org/forums/wheels-tires/359897-b-gorman-aka-will-werks-wills-wheels-wheel-ologist-shop-video.html"]B.Gorman[/URL] on the east coast has my wheels. He does a ton of rebuilding for Mercedes and Euros. Great guy to talk to and really has a passion for building wheels. Got hooked up w/ him through my buddy [URL="http://g35driver.com/forums/picture-share/357375-robzones-new-look-audi-stanced-stretched.html"]Rob[/URL]
 
Specs of new setup will be:
 
20x10 +18 / 3" lip
20x11 +12 / 4.5" lip
 
Not going to go too crazy, since I don't want to do any extensive fender work. I will most likely do both new inner and outer barrels. Just trying to decide what kind of special finish I want on the faces.[/QUOTE] I have spoken to Gorman  a while back .. he knows his stuff too .. :biggthumpup: can go wrong

Just waiting on the blank lips now, since he had to special order them. The Weds barrels were drilled all funky and had like 60 holes in each one, with only 30 being used.

just to be clear, I sold the Vishunus and am rebuilding another set of Weds I picked up.

Ohhhh crazy.  I was wondering why you were suggesting redoing the faces!

William I cant wait till this whole thing comes together for you....its gonna be sickkkk

maybe the BBK will arrive at the same time as the wheels

Great resources in this thread! Answered alot of questions i had about getting new barrells!

Blank lips ready to be polished and then chromed...

[IMG]http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k76/moog177/Lips.jpg[/IMG]

Shoot, you guys found people to rebarrel without a step lip?

Last time I inquired with someone they would have had to bump my Expands up to 17", and it would have been much pricier too, than what you guys are paying. Might have been due to being a welded 2-piece design.

Looks interesting, I'll keep an eye out for updates!

ohh man this going to be nice!

Can any of these places mentioned in this thread do a polished lip thats anodized for a set of SSR wheels?  I would like to change the offset on my wheels but from what I was told SSR doesnt sell barrels/parts.

[QUOTE=lunek;396193]i got my lip machine and chrome for that price which i think is pretty good considering i dont have to ship my wheels out. Some pics of the lip when i first got them.

as you can see these are blank lips. I just drilled 4 holes to bolt the face up for the time being.
[IMG]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w100/spoolngst/2011-02-28174348.jpg[/IMG]

close up on the lip after chrome. Different tooling was needed to get a 7inch lip
[IMG]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w100/spoolngst/2011-02-28174421.jpg[/IMG]

and final assembly with new inners and outers.
[IMG]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w100/spoolngst/2011-04-11165335.jpg[/IMG]


Lunek I loves your caaarrrr

test fitted on car
[IMG]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w100/spoolngst/2011-04-12122111.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HiloDB1;404508]Can any of these places mentioned in this thread do a polished lip thats anodized for a set of SSR wheels?  I would like to change the offset on my wheels but from what I was told SSR doesnt sell barrels/parts.[/QUOTE]

I know my guy can do high polished, chrome, powdercoated, hydrographics, but not sure about anodized.

Don't annodize lips, it sucks and is hard to maintain.

[QUOTE=4DGS;406735]Don't annodize lips, it sucks and is hard to maintain.[/QUOTE]
Why is that?  The lips on my SSR's are factory clear anodized?

Hard to maintain and not a very tough finish.

Id go with a sprayed clear over any kind of anodizing.

Whats so hard to maintain?  All I do is wash it every couple weeks and wipe it down in between washes.  Just curious.

[QUOTE=4DGS;406754]Hard to maintain and not a very tough finish.

Id go with a sprayed clear over any kind of anodizing.[/QUOTE]

[quote]Because of its strength and durability, anodized aluminum is also used in a number of other applications. Many of the satellites circling the Earth are protected from space debris by layers of anodized aluminum.[/quote]

Also a good read for anodizing...

[url]http://www.saf.com/content.php?action=showPage&pid=1&cat_id=1[/url]

Raw anodized aluminum needs to be cared for, the shit that's usually on SSR and Volks lips and what not are usually anodized, polished and coated in a protective coating.

Raw anodizing gets water spots and is tough against dirt and what not, but it's not a real tough finish against much else...

That silver pinstripe on the outside of my wheel isn't there on purpose...

[img]http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6067/6045017348_bc7f234964_o.jpg[/img]