kouki/chuuki/zenki president questions
i have a 94 g50 with a chuuki president conversion. Im interested in upgrading my grill, headlights and rear trunk bar(the one above president letters on the trunk) to the kouki ones like Crazy Hawaiians. Does anyone know if they will fit on my car? are those parts directly interchangeable?
Second question is concerning the junction produce kits. i like the look of the kouki jp kit as it is a lil bit more aggressive than the zenki version, does anyone know if that will fit directly with my car?
thanks in advance for any help
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i have a 94 g50 with a chuuki president conversion. Im interested in upgrading my grill, headlights and rear trunk bar(the one above president letters on the trunk) to the kouki ones like Crazy Hawaiians. Does anyone know if they will fit on my car? are those parts directly interchangeable?
[IMG]http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv125/freeagent6/president/grillreartrunkbar-1.png[/IMG]
Second question is concerning the junction produce kits. i like the look of the kouki jp kit as it is a lil bit more aggressive than the zenki version, does anyone know if that will fit directly with my car?
[IMG]http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv125/freeagent6/president/photo-1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv125/freeagent6/president/photo3-1.jpg[/IMG]
thanks in advance for any help
bump for some help? or a point in the right direction would be great. thanks
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bump for some help? or a point in the right direction would be great. thanks
I think the correct answer is, you can make it fit. As far as it being a direct bolt on, the answer appears to be no. When I started the 45Revolver build, I actually bought 2 president body conversions so I could make sure I had all the parts I needed as well as backups in case mistakes were made. Even then, I was missing stuff, and the lesson learned is that doing this conversion ala carte is the harder route to take. The best way is to have a complete donor car, ensuring you get all the little parts people dont think about (and thus, do not include). Of course, this is unreasonable for 99% of us, so the next best thing is to bring in a clip. Cheapest way is to bring in a conversion like I did. One of the conversions was Chuki and the other was Kouki, so I did notice some differences. But I state it as "the answer appears to be no" because unlike previous builds I did (where I did the work), this build was done at a shop and I did not have the time to disassemble both conversions and mix match parts. However, other members (OG) were asking so I did take note as best I could, comparing parts, here are some things I noticed:
Headlights - If you dont get the OEM headlight brackets, you need to fabricate. Assuming the headlights were the same, fabricated one set for the Chuki headlights, fit perfect. Went to install the Kouki glass HID's and did not fit. Totally different. Fabricated a second set of brackets on top of the original, allowing me to go back to using Chuki lights if the Koukis ever cracked or broke.
Wiring - Wiring between Chuki and Kouki headlights completely different, Chuki is Halogen and can use the US OEM wiring. Kouki is HID with D2R and H1, I used aftermarket HID kits sourced through SessionsUSA. Kouki also appears to have an auto leveling system, of course US OEM wiring does not include this, nor the "brain" to control it. Still researching this to find out what parts are required, reading japan wiring diagram, etc.
Grill - Physically the Kouki Grill appears to fit the Chuki hood, but they to appear to mount differently. The Kouki Grill has more mounting studs than the Chuki Grill. The mounting holes might not line up. However, some minor drilling, some washers, and some TLC and it appears this can be made to fit.
Trunk - Physically the trunks appear to be the same, I believe the only differences are the trim. The reverse lights are interchangable. Not sure about the top bar, Kouki bar had 8 mounting studs, you can prob go pull the liner on your Chuki trunk and see if yours has 8 studs too. Some Chuki had the lower trim (flat) all Kouki had the lower trim (flared), I imagine they mount the same. My Chuki trunk looked like yours in the pic, so comparing to Kouki there were differences, you dont have the lower trim, Kouki trunk has holes to mount the trim. I also believe the lower trim matches the taillights, so mix-matching that might look weird. Anyway, again, some drilling, some washers, and some TLC and this can be made to fit.
Bumpers - The bumpers all appear to be interchangable, so the JP kit should be no prob. There might be slight style differences, but they mount the same. The 45Revolver is actually running a Chuki front bumper and a US OEM rear bumper. The US and JDM rear bumpers appeared to be almost identical. And was no concern to me because I plan to kit the car after I do airsus. Small trick, order US OEM chrome bumper trim for the rear bumper, and cut to fit to finish off the JDM bumpers (front or rear). Front chrome trim too short for JDM bumpers, and JDM chrome trim hard to source (discontined)
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I think the correct answer is, you can make it fit. As far as it being a direct bolt on, the answer appears to be no. When I started the 45Revolver build, I actually bought 2 president body conversions so I could make sure I had all the parts I needed as well as backups in case mistakes were made. Even then, I was missing stuff, and the lesson learned is that doing this conversion ala carte is the harder route to take. The best way is to have a complete donor car, ensuring you get all the little parts people dont think about (and thus, do not include). Of course, this is unreasonable for 99% of us, so the next best thing is to bring in a clip. Cheapest way is to bring in a conversion like I did. One of the conversions was Chuki and the other was Kouki, so I did notice some differences. But I state it as "the answer appears to be no" because unlike previous builds I did (where I did the work), this build was done at a shop and I did not have the time to disassemble both conversions and mix match parts. However, other members (OG) were asking so I did take note as best I could, comparing parts, here are some things I noticed:
Headlights - If you dont get the OEM headlight brackets, you need to fabricate. Assuming the headlights were the same, fabricated one set for the Chuki headlights, fit perfect. Went to install the Kouki glass HID's and did not fit. Totally different. Fabricated a second set of brackets on top of the original, allowing me to go back to using Chuki lights if the Koukis ever cracked or broke.
Wiring - Wiring between Chuki and Kouki headlights completely different, Chuki is Halogen and can use the US OEM wiring. Kouki is HID with D2R and H1, I used aftermarket HID kits sourced through SessionsUSA. Kouki also appears to have an auto leveling system, of course US OEM wiring does not include this, nor the "brain" to control it. Still researching this to find out what parts are required, reading japan wiring diagram, etc.
Grill - Physically the Kouki Grill appears to fit the Chuki hood, but they to appear to mount differently. The Kouki Grill has more mounting studs than the Chuki Grill. The mounting holes might not line up. However, some minor drilling, some washers, and some TLC and it appears this can be made to fit.
Trunk - Physically the trunks appear to be the same, I believe the only differences are the trim. The reverse lights are interchangable. Not sure about the top bar, Kouki bar had 8 mounting studs, you can prob go pull the liner on your Chuki trunk and see if yours has 8 studs too. Some Chuki had the lower trim (flat) all Kouki had the lower trim (flared), I imagine they mount the same. My Chuki trunk looked like yours in the pic, so comparing to Kouki there were differences, you dont have the lower trim, Kouki trunk has holes to mount the trim. I also believe the lower trim matches the taillights, so mix-matching that might look weird. Anyway, again, some drilling, some washers, and some TLC and this can be made to fit.
Bumpers - The bumpers all appear to be interchangable, so the JP kit should be no prob. There might be slight style differences, but they mount the same. The 45Revolver is actually running a Chuki front bumper and a US OEM rear bumper. The US and JDM rear bumpers appeared to be almost identical. And was no concern to me because I plan to kit the car after I do airsus. Small trick, order US OEM chrome bumper trim for the rear bumper, and cut to fit to finish off the JDM bumpers (front or rear). Front chrome trim too short for JDM bumpers, and JDM chrome trim hard to source (discontined)
looks like im going to pass on the headlights for quite some time then as it will require a lot more time than i have available. But thanks Crazyhawaiian for the help. im going to pull the trigger on the jproduce kit this weekend. you dont have a good connect on ordering the grill and rear trunk bar from japan do you? preferably used in decent condition to save money. been debating on nengun and a guy i have purchased from on nico but he doesnt know if he can find it yet.
thanks again very much for the help
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looks like im going to pass on the headlights for quite some time then as it will require a lot more time than i have available. But thanks Crazyhawaiian for the help. im going to pull the trigger on the jproduce kit this weekend. you dont have a good connect on ordering the grill and rear trunk bar from japan do you? preferably used in decent condition to save money. been debating on nengun and a guy i have purchased from on nico but he doesnt know if he can find it yet.
thanks again very much for the help
No problem, glad I can share info and try to help the community. I would highly recommend Bryan at SessionsUSA, vendor here on VSC. Shoot him a PM. He can bring in quality JDM parts.
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No problem, glad I can share info and try to help the community. I would highly recommend Bryan at SessionsUSA, vendor here on VSC. Shoot him a PM. He can bring in quality JDM parts.