which is better?

K-sport vs air runner....thoughts?

LOL!

I LOL'ed at first too, but there are some legitimate points to be made here. First off, I would never run K-Sport anything ever. I probably wouldn't run Air Runner either, but there are a couple apps I recommend it for occasionally, and if I did it would have to be OTG (+ ~$2K).
 
AR has been known as the most reliable/high quality kit out there. I've seen some failures and one could argue that their simple basic setup (manual valves, analog gauges) are less prone to "issues" but regardless they're still up there. Their kits are constructed with some of the best known companies period (KYB, Bridgstone, Firestone, Viair, etc.). The downfall is the lack of ride height/PSI tunability (non-OTG) and what I still consider to be an inflated price.
 
K-Sport is a bag over coilover based system which has the features that the basic AR lacks (speaking strictly about the strut/bag potion). Apparently K-Sport has improved their quality since their [I]horrible[/I] debut, but I still won't touch it. The early shocks were fail prone and I've never ridden in a K-Sport equipped car that didn't ride aweful. Now there is a difference between air and static, but the dampers are probably the same. Plus it's f**kin' orange.

^theyre black with orange collars now lol.

f**k 'em still.

[QUOTE=OG;435596]f**k 'em still.[/QUOTE]
they're only company that makes a 2 way adjustable coilover for my car. :smiley-rofl:

your sucky car doesn't make those sucky coilovers any less sucky.

My K-sport is purple. How do you like them apples? =p
I've ridden in Kingpin's AR equipped M45 and my K-sport is no different in terms of ride quality. Neither of us is doing any great autocross passes anytime soon.

I think it comes down to how much you want to spend. I think they're both garbage, but my opinion is just speculation, never owned either one myself. Ksport is supposedly garbage because its from Taiwan (which might not be true). I think AR is garbage because I think KYB is garbage from past experiences with a different platform in a different application (again, might not be "true" since different platform/application). Unfortunately for me, the G50 does not have many air options, with these two being potential options. So for me its like chosing which one I think sucks less (which is why I went with JIC coilovers). Do you have other options? What platform is this for? If your platform supports UAS, that might be the best option since you have more choices as far as what brand damper (strut) you can use (whereas Ksport and AR are "prepackaged" in that regard). But again, depends how much you want to spend.

What do you recomend OG im trying to figure something out for my non ul 430 but im not sure what to get....Money is some what of a concern but not as much as quality and reliability as well as function of the set up....Im in corpus and i have been wanting to take a trip to the h to go visit the shop and what not.

my suspension of choice is cups and coils, but it's not for everyone.

as far as bags, on an ls430, i'd recommmend a uas over bc setup. e-level seems to make the bag experience better for most. that setup will give you the most tunability, most features, and most bang for your buck quality wise.
 
anytime you're in the area hit me up. i'm happy to show off my little cave anytime. there's talks of a local vip meet soon.