F50 Suspension Question
I just sold my Y33 and going to be gettin an F50 soon.
I had S13 and S14 control arms / toe arms, to fit more agressive negative offsets on the Y33.
QUESTION : Does the F50 fit aggressive shoes stock? or Is there anything to help the F50 to fit my old wheels if they don't fit like my Y33 setup?
Fender work is out of the question.
Noob to the F50 and havnt found any posts about this.
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I just sold my Y33 and going to be gettin an F50 soon.
I had S13 and S14 control arms / toe arms, to fit more agressive negative offsets on the Y33.
QUESTION : Does the F50 fit aggressive shoes stock? or Is there anything to help the F50 to fit my old wheels if they don't fit like my Y33 setup?
Fender work is out of the question.
Noob to the F50 and havnt found any posts about this.
f50 does not fit overly aggressive wheels, but there are arms available. i suggest you run a true coilover setup in the rear to make life easier. the front isn't as readily available, but the parts exist if you're willing to pay for them.
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f50 does not fit overly aggressive wheels, but there are arms available. i suggest you run a true coilover setup in the rear to make life easier. the front isn't as readily available, but the parts exist if you're willing to pay for them.
You're looking at fender work to fit negative offsets. PM Q45er on rear upper arms. He might be able to squeeze you in our group buy from battle version. You can get a g35/350z lower camber arm to fit. Fronts is still the issue. I'm trying to secure camber plates myself.
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You're looking at fender work to fit negative offsets. PM Q45er on rear upper arms. He might be able to squeeze you in our group buy from battle version. You can get a g35/350z lower camber arm to fit. Fronts is still the issue. I'm trying to secure camber plates myself.
Alright, thanks guys. I guess I have to sell my wheels then
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Alright, thanks guys. I guess I have to sell my wheels then
Matkg;437550 wrote:You're looking at fender work to fit negative offsets. PM Q45er on rear upper arms. He might be able to squeeze you in our group buy from battle version. You can get a g35/350z lower camber arm to fit. Fronts is still the issue. I'm trying to secure camber plates myself.
the g35/350z rear camber arms will work on F50?
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[QUOTE=Matkg;437550]You're looking at fender work to fit negative offsets. PM Q45er on rear upper arms. He might be able to squeeze you in our group buy from battle version. You can get a g35/350z lower camber arm to fit. Fronts is still the issue. I'm trying to secure camber plates myself.[/QUOTE]
the g35/350z rear camber arms will work on F50?
yessir.
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yessir.
i wonder if it woulb be enough to clear my new wheels so i can go lower?

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i wonder if it woulb be enough to clear my new wheels so i can go lower?
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It doesn't look like you need much to clear the rear. It's the fronts that might be your problem.
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It doesn't look like you need much to clear the rear. It's the fronts that might be your problem.
Matkg;437965 wrote:It doesn't look like you need much to clear the rear. It's the fronts that might be your problem.
so you think the rear lower arm is all i would need?
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[QUOTE=Matkg;437965]It doesn't look like you need much to clear the rear. It's the fronts that might be your problem.[/QUOTE]
so you think the rear lower arm is all i would need?
snoop562;437966 wrote:so you think the rear lower arm is all i would need?
I can barely see the rear from that pic but I would think the rear camber kit will work. It depends on how much pull you have on your fenders & how much lower your going as natural camber takes into play as well. Remember though that this will only move the lower part out or in. Moving out too much to clear might screw up your toe.
Specs on the wheels?
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[QUOTE=snoop562;437966]so you think the rear lower arm is all i would need?[/QUOTE]
I can barely see the rear from that pic but I would think the rear camber kit will work. It depends on how much pull you have on your fenders & how much lower your going as natural camber takes into play as well. Remember though that this will only move the lower part out or in. Moving out too much to clear might screw up your toe.
Specs on the wheels?
you cant tell from the pic but it sticks out like 1.5", the wheel is 19x11 +0 I think.
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you cant tell from the pic but it sticks out like 1.5", the wheel is 19x11 +0 I think.
In that case, I suggest upper & toe arms.
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In that case, I suggest upper & toe arms.
wrd. the z33 pushes out the bottom, so you wont gain much clearance up top iirc.
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wrd. the z33 pushes out the bottom, so you wont gain much clearance up top iirc.
thanks guys! ill prob do fender work n upper arm if I need it.
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thanks guys! ill prob do fender work n upper arm if I need it.
it works differently on this suspension design. since the pivot points are within the diameter of the wheel pushing the bottom out will bring the top in. ruca are not available (readily at least). you would want a "camber (lower) arm" and ideally a "toe arm", which replaces the oem arm with the spring bucket on it. if you do not have true coilovers, spring off shock instead, you will be limited to an elongated eccentric bolt toe adjustment (suggested) or a fairly complex setup involving custom springs and an arm w/ an adjustable spring bucket.
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it works differently on this suspension design. since the pivot points are within the diameter of the wheel pushing the bottom out will bring the top in. ruca are not available (readily at least). you would want a "camber (lower) arm" and ideally a "toe arm", which replaces the oem arm with the spring bucket on it. if you do not have true coilovers, spring off shock instead, you will be limited to an elongated eccentric bolt toe adjustment (suggested) or a fairly complex setup involving custom springs and an arm w/ an adjustable spring bucket.
I have buddy club coilovers, its a true coilover but it also comes with with a seperate set of rear springs that go on the buckets so what would be my options?
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I have buddy club coilovers, its a true coilover but it also comes with with a seperate set of rear springs that go on the buckets so what would be my options?
take the separate springs out, and get beefier springs for the rear coils. then you can replace the bucket with the z33 camber arm.
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take the separate springs out, and get beefier springs for the rear coils. then you can replace the bucket with the z33 camber arm.
looks like I have a few options. on top of that I have uas waiting to go on.
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looks like I have a few options. on top of that I have uas waiting to go on.
it's actually the toe arm that replaces the bucket, however you won't be able to do that if you want to run the bag. afaik there is not enough clearance to run a sleeve type bag on the rear, so you will be running a traditional bag in the pocket. the uas narrows you down to 1 option: camber arm + toe bolt.
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it's actually the toe arm that replaces the bucket, however you won't be able to do that if you want to run the bag. afaik there is not enough clearance to run a sleeve type bag on the rear, so you will be running a traditional bag in the pocket. the uas narrows you down to 1 option: camber arm + toe bolt.
snoop562;437994 wrote:you cant tell from the pic but it sticks out like 1.5", the wheel is 19x11 +0 I think.
Hmm if you can fit this then I might fit mine?
I got
19x9.5 fronts -12 offset
19x10 rear -12
think they would work then with camber?
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[QUOTE=snoop562;437994]you cant tell from the pic but it sticks out like 1.5", the wheel is 19x11 +0 I think.[/QUOTE]
Hmm if you can fit this then I might fit mine?
I got
19x9.5 fronts -12 offset
19x10 rear -12
think they would work then with camber?
your rear fitment will be the same as his. not sure about the front since he didn't list specs.
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your rear fitment will be the same as his. not sure about the front since he didn't list specs.
OG;438077 wrote:it's actually the toe arm that replaces the bucket, however you won't be able to do that if you want to run the bag. afaik there is not enough clearance to run a sleeve type bag on the rear, so you will be running a traditional bag in the pocket. the uas narrows you down to 1 option: camber arm + toe bolt.
where can i find this toe bolt, is it custom? thanks OG!
Awwthentic;438078 wrote:Hmm if you can fit this then I might fit mine?
I got
19x9.5 fronts -12 offset
19x10 rear -12
think they would work then with camber?
youre probabaly still gonna need a pull in the rear. i was at -3 rear camber and i had to raise 1" and pull because the fender was sitting completely on tire.
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[QUOTE=OG;438077]it's actually the toe arm that replaces the bucket, however you won't be able to do that if you want to run the bag. afaik there is not enough clearance to run a sleeve type bag on the rear, so you will be running a traditional bag in the pocket. the uas narrows you down to 1 option: camber arm + toe bolt.[/QUOTE]
where can i find this toe bolt, is it custom? thanks OG!
[QUOTE=Awwthentic;438078]Hmm if you can fit this then I might fit mine?
I got
19x9.5 fronts -12 offset
19x10 rear -12
think they would work then with camber?[/QUOTE]
youre probabaly still gonna need a pull in the rear. i was at -3 rear camber and i had to raise 1" and pull because the fender was sitting completely on tire.
you can order it through me or google it. it's an spc product, made for 350z. i can also provide spl camber arms, best on the market and reasonably priced.
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you can order it through me or google it. it's an spc product, made for 350z. i can also provide spl camber arms, best on the market and reasonably priced.
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[QUOTE=snoop562;438105]where can i find this toe bolt, is it custom? thanks OG!
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There are several ones available. Some camber kits actually come with it already.
[URL]http://www.spcalignment.com/component/spc/?task=part_description&pid=72055®ion=USA&make=Infiniti&model=G35+Coupe+w%2Fo+rear+active+steer&year=2003+-+2007&from=USAFrom&to=USATo[/URL]
OG;438106 wrote:you can order it through me or google it. it's an spc product, made for 350z. i can also provide spl camber arms, best on the market and reasonably priced.
OG! Can you PM me price for the SPL Ti shipped to 92804?
OP, sorry for thread jacking=)
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[QUOTE=OG;438106]you can order it through me or google it. it's an spc product, made for 350z. i can also provide spl camber arms, best on the market and reasonably priced.[/QUOTE]
OG! Can you PM me price for the SPL Ti shipped to 92804?
OP, sorry for thread jacking=)
Price is $30/pair + shipping. You can probably order it somewhere else cheaper, but if you're going to get the camber arms also I'd recommend going through me.
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Price is $30/pair + shipping. You can probably order it somewhere else cheaper, but if you're going to get the camber arms also I'd recommend going through me.
I meant pricing for the SPL titanum rear camber kit.
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I meant pricing for the SPL titanum rear camber kit.
Matkg;438112 wrote:OG! Can you PM me price for the SPL Ti shipped to 92804?
OP, sorry for thread jacking=)
It's aight I'm not the guy to be all pissy. Like the info you guys talkin bout anyways about the F50.
Still looking, no luck besides a beat up one from these crooked dealers here in Houston
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[QUOTE=Matkg;438112]OG! Can you PM me price for the SPL Ti shipped to 92804?
OP, sorry for thread jacking=)[/QUOTE]
It's aight I'm not the guy to be all pissy. Like the info you guys talkin bout anyways about the F50.
Still looking, no luck besides a beat up one from these crooked dealers here in Houston
OG;438118 wrote:Price is $30/pair + shipping. You can probably order it somewhere else cheaper, but if you're going to get the camber arms also I'd recommend going through me.
i tried to get a better pic. you think it will be enough to overcome this? i wanna tuck rim.
sorry to the op as well, hope this helps you out also!
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[QUOTE=OG;438118]Price is $30/pair + shipping. You can probably order it somewhere else cheaper, but if you're going to get the camber arms also I'd recommend going through me.[/QUOTE]
i tried to get a better pic. you think it will be enough to overcome this? i wanna tuck rim.
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sorry to the op as well, hope this helps you out also!
snoop562;437958 wrote:i wonder if it woulb be enough to clear my new wheels so i can go lower?

Here mike. 19x9.5 +0 2X4 with heatgun pull ;)
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[QUOTE=snoop562;437958]i wonder if it woulb be enough to clear my new wheels so i can go lower?
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Here mike. 19x9.5 +0 2X4 with heatgun pull ;)
Arms are $273 + shipping, bolts are $30.
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Arms are $273 + shipping, bolts are $30.
snoop562;438125 wrote:i tried to get a better pic. you think it will be enough to overcome this? i wanna tuck rim.

sorry to the op as well, hope this helps you out also!
i would imagine so.
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[QUOTE=snoop562;438125]i tried to get a better pic. you think it will be enough to overcome this? i wanna tuck rim.
[IMG]http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af45/snoop562/IMAG0243.jpg[/IMG]
sorry to the op as well, hope this helps you out also![/QUOTE]
i would imagine so.
snoop562;438125 wrote:i tried to get a better pic. you think it will be enough to overcome this? i wanna tuck rim.

sorry to the op as well, hope this helps you out also!
2X4 and hammer pull lol 19x11 +6
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[QUOTE=snoop562;438125]i tried to get a better pic. you think it will be enough to overcome this? i wanna tuck rim.
[IMG]http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af45/snoop562/IMAG0243.jpg[/IMG]
sorry to the op as well, hope this helps you out also![/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/Gee702/08dfc635.jpg[/IMG]
2X4 and hammer pull lol 19x11 +6
GEE702;438126 wrote:
Here mike. 19x9.5 +0 2X4 with heatgun pull ;)
:biggthumpup: this is what i need! thanks GEE!
just worried about the rears, i wonder if a pull is gonna be enough?
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[QUOTE=GEE702;438126][IMG]http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/Gee702/618204d4.jpg[/IMG]
Here mike. 19x9.5 +0 2X4 with heatgun pull ;)[/QUOTE]
:biggthumpup: this is what i need! thanks GEE!
just worried about the rears, i wonder if a pull is gonna be enough?
OG;438128 wrote:Arms are $273 + shipping, bolts are $30.
That's good prices sir :biggthumpup: do you happen to have a link for pics for this arm? And would you do special pricing for two sets?
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[QUOTE=OG;438128]Arms are $273 + shipping, bolts are $30.[/QUOTE]
That's good prices sir :biggthumpup: do you happen to have a link for pics for this arm? And would you do special pricing for two sets?
snoop562;438132 wrote::biggthumpup: this is what i need! thanks GEE!
just worried about the rears, i wonder if a pull is gonna be enough?
If you can wait 2 weeks till my boy gets back, the pull will work. I can roll fully aired out on 19x11 +6
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[QUOTE=snoop562;438132]:biggthumpup: this is what i need! thanks GEE!
just worried about the rears, i wonder if a pull is gonna be enough?[/QUOTE]
If you can wait 2 weeks till my boy gets back, the pull will work. I can roll fully aired out on 19x11 +6
GEE702;438130 wrote:
2X4 and hammer pull lol
YEAH BUDDY! I WANNS SIT LIKE THAT=)
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[QUOTE=GEE702;438130][IMG]http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz305/Gee702/08dfc635.jpg[/IMG]
2X4 and hammer pull lol[/QUOTE]
YEAH BUDDY! I WANNS SIT LIKE THAT=)
GEE702;438134 wrote:If you can wait 2 weeks till my boy gets back, the pull will work. I can roll fully aired out on 19x11 +6
thanks Glen
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[QUOTE=GEE702;438134]If you can wait 2 weeks till my boy gets back, the pull will work. I can roll fully aired out on 19x11 +6[/QUOTE]
thanks Glen
with a lot of it.
I may have my offsets confused but:
With all the fender work i have now on mine, I am able to take my 19x8.5 +3 and put a 25mm spacer on it (fronts) and it clears with zero camber.
The rear is a 19x9.5 -1 i have a 25mm spacer on that and i could theoretically put another 25mm on it and clear with more of a stretched tire, running a 235 35 now.
Camber is maxed in the rear at around 5.5 or 6. Can not remember but I was surprised how much i could get out of it.
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with a lot of it.
I may have my offsets confused but:
With all the fender work i have now on mine, I am able to take my 19x8.5 +3 and put a 25mm spacer on it (fronts) and it clears with zero camber.
The rear is a 19x9.5 -1 i have a 25mm spacer on that and i could theoretically put another 25mm on it and clear with more of a stretched tire, running a 235 35 now.
Camber is maxed in the rear at around 5.5 or 6. Can not remember but I was surprised how much i could get out of it.
I just realized this went to a second page. I mean a lot of camber will work. SPC! why did i not think of them! damn it.. I can get them too..
ALSO 2X4?? WTF?? pics of how you used that LOL
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I just realized this went to a second page. I mean a lot of camber will work. SPC! why did i not think of them! damn it.. I can get them too..
ALSO 2X4?? WTF?? pics of how you used that LOL
hey Kouki are you on stock arms? the alignment shop could only squeeze out -3 camber with my stock arms.
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hey Kouki are you on stock arms? the alignment shop could only squeeze out -3 camber with my stock arms.
yeah, i am on stock. the magnetic protractor said 5.5ish measured from center, and a camber board with level said almost the same
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yeah, i am on stock. the magnetic protractor said 5.5ish measured from center, and a camber board with level said almost the same
Kouki Monster;438187 wrote:
ALSO 2X4?? WTF?? pics of how you used that LOL
What the hell, a 2x4? show us some pics glee... you getting us curious =)
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ALSO 2X4?? WTF?? pics of how you used that LOL[/QUOTE]
What the hell, a 2x4? show us some pics glee... you getting us curious =)
GEE702;438133 wrote:That's good prices sir :biggthumpup: do you happen to have a link for pics for this arm? And would you do special pricing for two sets?
I already sell at MAP (minimum authorized price) which I am binded to by contract. I fell it is good business to respect the manufacturer and maintain the value of the brand by not going below this number. The good news is, however, that I misquoted the arms. The correct price is:
$245 + s/f for the camber arm
you can view the product here:
http://www.splparts.com/chassis-Z33.html#SPLRLLZ33
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[QUOTE=GEE702;438133]That's good prices sir :biggthumpup: do you happen to have a link for pics for this arm? And would you do special pricing for two sets?[/QUOTE]
I already sell at MAP (minimum authorized price) which I am binded to by contract. I fell it is good business to respect the manufacturer and maintain the value of the brand by not going below this number. The good news is, however, that I misquoted the arms. The correct price is:
$245 + s/f for the camber arm
you can view the product here:
[URL]http://www.splparts.com/chassis-Z33.html#SPLRLLZ33[/URL]
OG;438284 wrote:I already sell at MAP (minimum authorized price) which I am binded to by contract. I fell it is good business to respect the manufacturer and maintain the value of the brand by not going below this number. The good news is, however, that I misquoted the arms. The correct price is:
$245 + s/f for the camber arm
you can view the product here:
http://www.splparts.com/chassis-Z33.html#SPLRLLZ33
Koo thank you sir. Lemme get some funds together :)
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[QUOTE=OG;438284]I already sell at MAP (minimum authorized price) which I am binded to by contract. I fell it is good business to respect the manufacturer and maintain the value of the brand by not going below this number. The good news is, however, that I misquoted the arms. The correct price is:
$245 + s/f for the camber arm
you can view the product here:
[URL]http://www.splparts.com/chassis-Z33.html#SPLRLLZ33[/URL][/QUOTE]
Koo thank you sir. Lemme get some funds together :)
Kouki Monster;438187 wrote:I just realized this went to a second page. I mean a lot of camber will work. SPC! why did i not think of them! damn it.. I can get them too..
ALSO 2X4?? WTF?? pics of how you used that LOL
Juzzo;438227 wrote:What the hell, a 2x4? show us some pics glee... you getting us curious =)
Lol I know its very ghetto. Ill try to get a picture today.
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[QUOTE=Kouki Monster;438187]I just realized this went to a second page. I mean a lot of camber will work. SPC! why did i not think of them! damn it.. I can get them too..
ALSO 2X4?? WTF?? pics of how you used that LOL[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Juzzo;438227]What the hell, a 2x4? show us some pics glee... you getting us curious =)[/QUOTE]
Lol I know its very ghetto. Ill try to get a picture today.