Thread #3055
When some of you look at some of the rims posted up here some say it looks too racey. How do you determine if it's racey? Also how do you determine a DUB style rim?
in my personal opinion, racey is usually 5 spoke or multispoke or different colored wheels. also usually 17/18s DUB style is kinda like big chrome bling bling to me. usually 20's and bigger. VIP is more of a full face usually polished or a nice chrome, not some cheap chrome blang blang. like look at ame's chrome or trafficstar or work, and compare it to a set of dolce wheels. you can kinda see it. thats my personal opinion. Goodluck Charley
Um...Vip style wheels are on Vip style cars...Racey style wheels are on racey style cars? There's no formula for what makes a wheel design Vip. There's no such thing as a Vip wheel. There are however wheels that suit a Vip car better than others. Vip is a style, not a combination of labeled parts. Racey = race inspired If your Lexus looks like it's itching to get on the track, or wants to look like it is, then it's racey. If it looks like it will steam roll spocoms without your passengers spilling their champagne on the leather, then it would be more on the Vip side of things.
firelizard;41670 wrote:
There's no formula for what makes a wheel design Vip. There's no such thing as a Vip wheel. There are however wheels that suit a Vip car better than others. Vip is a style, not a combination of labeled parts.
[QUOTE=firelizard;41670] There's no formula for what makes a wheel design Vip. There's no such thing as a Vip wheel. There are however wheels that suit a Vip car better than others. Vip is a style, not a combination of labeled parts. [/QUOTE] How can you tell? What are the characteristics?
Well, traditional Vip cars were big Japanese luxury, there are 10 that Mr Taketomi - president of Junction Produce lists specifically. (this got posted a million times and even stickied you could probably find it faster than I can) They're luxurious, classy, and bold, usually with no expense spared on anything. This is why most wheels used are considered unusually expensive and 'lesser' brands or more bang for the buck oriented brands are often frowned upon. The wheels are chosen for how they complete the car, just like how a lamp is chosen to complete a room - it's not about the individual components, but rather how they are put together. Often Vip car builders prefer deep lips or a lot of dish, but a few are known for having flat face (no lip or dish) wheels that are spaced out to come flush. (Garson comes to mind immediately). Still, it is a bold and classy look, very rich looking without being too garish. (Well, actually, not being too garish may be the most popular theme here but some may remember Garson's feather boa dashes). Vip cars are also known for having very flush fitting wheels - in fact this is one of the most important factors for a lot of people - and extreme drops. Wheel gap is a sin. This car is not Vip. It is a Q45 though, one of the traditional platforms. [img]http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/789/23185161full40f31497xo5.jpg[/img] Note the wheel gap, ill fitting wheels (I hate to hate but I'd bet they're not real Lowenharts either) - I dunno about you, but it looks corny to me, and a lack of effort is apparent to me. The formula for this car was "luxury car + dubs = win". Black suit. This car isn't even a traditional platform but [img]http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6851/1011013b40f83ab5dq0.jpg[/img] Wouldn't you agree that it has a lot more class? Black tailored Armani suit. to the others - if this doesn't make sense or is off base, I apologize
firelizard;41701 wrote:Well, traditional Vip cars were big Japanese luxury, there are 10 that Mr Taketomi - president of Junction Produce lists specifically. (this got posted a million times and even stickied you could probably find it faster than I can)
They're luxurious, classy, and bold, usually with no expense spared on anything. This is why most wheels used are considered unusually expensive and 'lesser' brands or more bang for the buck oriented brands are often frowned upon. The wheels are chosen for how they complete the car, just like how a lamp is chosen to complete a room - it's not about the individual components, but rather how they are put together. Often Vip car builders prefer deep lips or a lot of dish, but a few are known for having flat face (no lip or dish) wheels that are spaced out to come flush. (Garson comes to mind immediately). Still, it is a bold and classy look, very rich looking without being too garish. (Well, actually, not being too garish may be the most popular theme here but some may remember Garson's feather boa dashes).
Vip cars are also known for having very flush fitting wheels - in fact this is one of the most important factors for a lot of people - and extreme drops. Wheel gap is a sin.
This car is not Vip. It is a Q45 though, one of the traditional platforms.
Note the wheel gap, ill fitting wheels (I hate to hate but I'd bet they're not real Lowenharts either) - I dunno about you, but it looks corny to me, and a lack of effort is apparent to me. The formula for this car was "luxury car + dubs = win".
Black suit.
This car isn't even a traditional platform but
Wouldn't you agree that it has a lot more class?
Black tailored Armani suit.
to the others - if this doesn't make sense or is off base, I apologize
[QUOTE=firelizard;41701]Well, traditional Vip cars were big Japanese luxury, there are 10 that Mr Taketomi - president of Junction Produce lists specifically. (this got posted a million times and even stickied you could probably find it faster than I can) They're luxurious, classy, and bold, usually with no expense spared on anything. This is why most wheels used are considered unusually expensive and 'lesser' brands or more bang for the buck oriented brands are often frowned upon. The wheels are chosen for how they complete the car, just like how a lamp is chosen to complete a room - it's not about the individual components, but rather how they are put together. Often Vip car builders prefer deep lips or a lot of dish, but a few are known for having flat face (no lip or dish) wheels that are spaced out to come flush. (Garson comes to mind immediately). Still, it is a bold and classy look, very rich looking without being too garish. (Well, actually, not being too garish may be the most popular theme here but some may remember Garson's feather boa dashes). Vip cars are also known for having very flush fitting wheels - in fact this is one of the most important factors for a lot of people - and extreme drops. Wheel gap is a sin. This car is not Vip. It is a Q45 though, one of the traditional platforms. [img]http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/789/23185161full40f31497xo5.jpg[/img] Note the wheel gap, ill fitting wheels (I hate to hate but I'd bet they're not real Lowenharts either) - I dunno about you, but it looks corny to me, and a lack of effort is apparent to me. The formula for this car was "luxury car + dubs = win". Black suit. This car isn't even a traditional platform but [img]http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6851/1011013b40f83ab5dq0.jpg[/img] Wouldn't you agree that it has a lot more class? Black tailored Armani suit. to the others - if this doesn't make sense or is off base, I apologize[/QUOTE] excellent post but i was more wondering about the rims.
I know, but my point is that it's not just the rims. You can put almost any style of wheel on a car on it's way to making it Vip if it will make the car classy and well, Vip overall. There are Vip style cars rocking everything from Garson Deep Racing Ryugi, to Anceltion Glassenheit, to Prussian Blue Julia Superior, to Work Meister S1, to Lowenhart LSR, to OZ Scara. Yes, there are brands whose target market is Vip stylists, but that's not the limit. Some Vip cars come off a little more sporty than others due to a choice of wheels, this is usually because something is missing to bring the wheels into the Vip dimension of the styling. I'm doing a lot of yapping mostly because I'm bored and I like to talk too much,but the best way to learn is to just absorb as much material as possible, and come up with your own interpretation around the basic idea and it will become clearer and clearer.
firelizard;41708 wrote:I know, but my point is that it's not just the rims. You can put almost any style of wheel on a car on it's way to making it Vip if it will make the car classy and well, Vip overall.
There are Vip style cars rocking everything from Garson Deep Racing Ryugi, to Anceltion Glassenheit, to Prussian Blue Julia Superior, to Work Meister S1, to Lowenhart LSR, to OZ Scara.
Yes, there are brands whose target market is Vip stylists, but that's not the limit.
Some Vip cars come off a little more sporty than others due to a choice of wheels, this is usually because something is missing to bring the wheels into the Vip dimension of the styling.
I'm doing a lot of yapping mostly because I'm bored and I like to talk too much,but the best way to learn is to just absorb as much material as possible, and come up with your own interpretation around the basic idea and it will become clearer and clearer.
[QUOTE=firelizard;41708]I know, but my point is that it's not just the rims. You can put almost any style of wheel on a car on it's way to making it Vip if it will make the car classy and well, Vip overall. There are Vip style cars rocking everything from Garson Deep Racing Ryugi, to Anceltion Glassenheit, to Prussian Blue Julia Superior, to Work Meister S1, to Lowenhart LSR, to OZ Scara. Yes, there are brands whose target market is Vip stylists, but that's not the limit. Some Vip cars come off a little more sporty than others due to a choice of wheels, this is usually because something is missing to bring the wheels into the Vip dimension of the styling. I'm doing a lot of yapping mostly because I'm bored and I like to talk too much,but the best way to learn is to just absorb as much material as possible, and come up with your own interpretation around the basic idea and it will become clearer and clearer.[/QUOTE] ic
firelizard;41701 wrote:
This car is not Vip. It is a Q45 though, one of the traditional platforms.
Note the wheel gap, ill fitting wheels (I hate to hate but I'd bet they're not real Lowenharts either) -
[QUOTE=firelizard;41701] This car is not Vip. It is a Q45 though, one of the traditional platforms. [img]http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/789/23185161full40f31497xo5.jpg[/img] Note the wheel gap, ill fitting wheels (I hate to hate but I'd bet they're not real Lowenharts either) - [/QUOTE] those are fake you can tell by the way the spokes are flat and the bolts look fake. here is an example of a q45 with sporty wald wheels but still is EXE or mild VIP style. [img]http://www.k-break.com/event/12gw/19.jpg[/img] notice the dish and the fitment, this is more in line with VIP, also the wheels are real not knockoffs IMO VIP has nothing to do with fake products. Also the ride height of the car as it corresponds to the fitment of the wheel has alot to do with how VIP a wheel feels. Also cheap wheels dont have the required low offsets or widths so they almost always fail to convey the visual image of the style. D.
excellent answers...thanks guys
VIP wheels (if there is a such thing) are high class well built wheels that offer different choices in offsets, disk type width finish etc. WHeels make or break the car so knock offs should never be considered imo. Racey wheels- mesh style, thin spokes but that doesnt mean a VIP car cant pull off a set of mesh VS' wheels
widebody_Q;41824 wrote:
but that doesnt mean a VIP car cant pull off a set of mesh VS' wheels
[QUOTE=widebody_Q;41824] but that doesnt mean a VIP car cant pull off a set of mesh VS' wheels[/QUOTE] Thats true. Some VIP cars rock Mesh wheels and they dont look anything like "racey" Especially with the guys that roll with the BBS LM's