TransformCelsiorMarch 12, 2007
#47222when the fender hits the wheel - what was that japanese word ?
turachi ? or something like that ?View original BBCode
turachi ? or something like that ?
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turachi ? or something like that ?
Notto Goddo. Wax on Wax off Daniel san. LOL Sorry for being a wise guy.......I am bored at work...what can I say. I am sure someone will chime in with the correct answer. Sukoshiyoshi
Tsuraichi
Translated: Tsurachi Japanese: ツライチ
Its not when it hits its when the lip of the wheel is even with the fender. And it means the dark point, or broken heart point Tsurai means painfull but not in a literal sence
I thought it was a Tsura and Ichi - i.e. "one face/surface". As opposed to Tsura and Uchi meaning "face/surface inside" The word i am trying to work out now is "kodawari", since it is used in virtually every single vip article. But the dictionary i use translates it as "troublesome adherance to tradition" or something like that.
It'd be interesting to find out the etymology of the word. I knew what tsuraichi referred to, but never really knew what it *meant*. I always figured it was an awkward romanization of the word "stretch".
Dominik;47243 wrote:I thought it was a Tsura and Ichi - i.e. "one face/surface". As opposed to Tsura and Uchi meaning "face/surface inside"
The word i am trying to work out now is "kodawari", since it is used in virtually every single vip article. But the dictionary i use translates it as "troublesome adherance to tradition" or something like that.
[QUOTE=Dominik;47243]I thought it was a Tsura and Ichi - i.e. "one face/surface". As opposed to Tsura and Uchi meaning "face/surface inside" The word i am trying to work out now is "kodawari", since it is used in virtually every single vip article. But the dictionary i use translates it as "troublesome adherance to tradition" or something like that.[/QUOTE] Troublesome adherance to tradition... could it possibly mean trouble adhering to tradition? sort of like saying that the person or car went against the norm or perhaps took the road less traveled? (btw- I am totally guessing here!)
maybe it means a strong (to the point it's troublesome) sticking with the tradition of VIPstyle? idk...another guess!
Edit: On an online dictionary i found the following translation for Kodawari: obsession; fixation; hangup; (2) determination; fastidiousness; pickiness about (trait, style, etc.) Seems about right!!! By the way, looking at tsuraichi... I found DXJPs translation tsurai (辛い), but not sure what the chi part would be in that word as opposed to my suggestion: 面 - "Face/Surface", and 一 - "One", to make "one surface" but i found another possibility: Tsuraneru (連ねる) "to join", so it could be 連一, "join as one" Hmmm.... I have to admit, I've only ever seen it written in Katakana, so i am not sure what the Kanji should be.
When the fender hits the wheel its called rubbing.


to me, its called not enough camber... [IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/calitri808/honda/ray022.jpg[/IMG] or in some cases, its not low enough and you have to make it lower.. haha [IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/calitri808/DSCF4941_resize.jpg[/IMG]
おとといきあがれ The literal translation of the tsurai ichi is what I said. Now if living in japan for 13 years and speeaking japanese fluent isnt enough for some of you well then and ichi depends on the kanji however this is spelt with katakana so the ichi would meen the point or at that point.
NG-UCF20;47341 wrote:When the fender hits the wheel its called rubbing.
[QUOTE=NG-UCF20;47341]When the fender hits the wheel its called rubbing.[/QUOTE] lol
DXJP;47345 wrote:おとといきあがれ
I wasnt aware that you were fluent in Japanese. Anyway, i was talking about this word: 面一 ([URL]http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%9D%A2%E4%B8%80[/URL]). It is pronounced as Tsuraichi, and matches the meaning we give tend to give to it. Regardless, it is only ever written in Katakana in magazines etc, so all that matters is that it is said as Tsuraichi and it means "flush with fenders" [quote=DXJP;47345]おとといきあがれ[/quote]
Funny how VIP is what 9 years old in japan and what 3 months in the states, and you use the word we. Infact Real VIP is dead all you guys are basing your knowlage on what is called LUG or luxury in japan. Also tsurai can meen hard as in Kino no shigoto wa tsuraikata If you have missing someone anata to hanereta ga tsurai but no mater what VIP will become the next rice bowl in the states. The fanboys are linning up.
DXJP;47359 wrote:Funny how VIP is what 9 years old in japan and what 3 months in the states, and you use the word we. Infact Real VIP is dead all you guys are basing your knowlage on what is called LUG or luxury in japan.
but no mater what VIP will become the next rice bowl in the states. The fanboys are linning up.
[quote=DXJP;47359]Funny how VIP is what 9 years old in japan and what 3 months in the states, and you use the word we. Infact Real VIP is dead all you guys are basing your knowlage on what is called LUG or luxury in japan. but no mater what VIP will become the next rice bowl in the states. The fanboys are linning up.[/quote] I dont agree with you that VIP is dead in Japan. in the states, real VIP rollers = ballers....... fanboys can afford to roll VIP:cool:
yes they can, all those high school fanboys whose aprents are buying them their drift cars will be doing the same for their kids Think about it, a normal chassis is like 6-10,000 throw some wheels and air ride your got 6gs more some other random shit for a few grand more its still less than a C class, or a 5 series or an escalade. i dunno about you, but my high school had 30-50 benz/bmw/audi/etc int eh parking lot at any given time
[IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/calitri808/honda/ray022.jpg[/IMG] do ispy an accord wagon?




I dont agree with you that VIP is dead in Japan. AND YOU BASE THIS ON WHAT First hand experiance, Have you even ever been to japan???? I was there before it started and ill be there long after it is gone. But just to refresh your memory of what real VIP was [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/DXJP/yagibe.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/DXJP/yagibe2.jpg[/IMG] Its got more lip on the front rims than you probobly have on the back. I built this 9 years ago Here is one built 7 years ago [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/DXJP/vip1.jpg[/IMG] I gueuss its hard to recognize real VIP when everybody thinks this is it [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/DXJP/GZPIX7.jpg[/IMG] Built 4 years ago
DXJP;47436 wrote:I dont agree with you that VIP is dead in Japan.
AND YOU BASE THIS ON WHAT First hand experiance, Have you even ever been to japan????
I was there before it started and ill be there long after it is gone. But just to refresh your memory of what real VIP was
Its got more lip on the front rims than you probobly have on the back. I built this 9 years ago
Here is one built 7 years ago
I gueuss its hard to recognize real VIP when everybody thinks this is it
Built 4 years ago
If your version of "real vip" was the only way to do it, then I wouldn't be into the VIP style. I bet most people wouldn't be into it either. If that was the end all and be all to VIP style, VSC probably wouldn't have this many members [QUOTE=DXJP;47436]I dont agree with you that VIP is dead in Japan. AND YOU BASE THIS ON WHAT First hand experiance, Have you even ever been to japan???? I was there before it started and ill be there long after it is gone. But just to refresh your memory of what real VIP was [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/DXJP/yagibe.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/DXJP/yagibe2.jpg[/IMG] Its got more lip on the front rims than you probobly have on the back. I built this 9 years ago Here is one built 7 years ago [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/DXJP/vip1.jpg[/IMG] I gueuss its hard to recognize real VIP when everybody thinks this is it [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/DXJP/GZPIX7.jpg[/IMG] Built 4 years ago[/QUOTE]
yeah and drifting was what it was 10 years ago to poser central ya think
Hahaha, I <3 you Lorin. Seriously guys, Lorin knows his shit. He's been building cars for longer than many of you have been driving. As far as his verse in Nihon, well..if you were blind and heard him, you'd sware he was Nihonjin. I don't just mean conversational Japanese, I'm talking about slang and dialects. One more thing Lorin: Stay away from the back of camels. I read that somewhere, but I'm not good with animals. Side note: The definition of VIP has changed over the years and has evolved. So I think many of you are getting confused with traditional VIP and what it has evolved into.
The backs of cammles you must meen Nick and it was the officers cammle he was supposed to ride to the city for some action not give the cammle action.

[IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/DXJP/GZPIX7.jpg[/IMG] not everyone thinks that is VIP......thats just ugly taste.... VIP is far from dead.......as someone said it has evolved..... and it has evovled into something bigger and better..........cause that black car you posted is ugly(I'm out on the bulky kit) and needed fine tunning. the blue oldschool is alright:cool:but the surf board for a front lip is wack....sure thats were it started.......but the the style you see Now is the evolution of VIP......so that is far from dead.
On the contrary, I Loooooooooove that crown, even the front lip!!!. I personally dig that older school style of VIP, especially the more "boxy" look of Crowns, Cels and Cimas done in that style. I guess VIP HAS to evolve though, because the style and shape of the VIP platform cars has changed, with the Aristos and newer Cimas and Lexus's etc. However I will always love those older style VIP cars. Just my 2c!
cause that black car you posted is ugly(I'm out on the bulky kit) and needed fine tunning. the blue oldschool is alrightbut the surf board for a front lip is wack. See thats my point you think VIP should conform to your taste Its not. This is what VIP is and was HENCE I say your all living the LUG dream that evolved from VIP. GEt over it NON of you can comprihend it becouse you were not there and your not in Japan now. I mean "Is this Fussa VIP" or "Is this tint VIP", or "Are these wheels VIP", or "Is this a VIp Platform" If you have to ask then you oviusly dont have a clue. By the way what was the first VIP mag in Japan And What is the most used platform now for your ( I think its VIP) look.
DXJP wrote:By the way what was the first VIP mag in Japan
[QUOTE=DXJP]By the way what was the first VIP mag in Japan [/QUOTE] I have some Big Sedans from late 1990's...... they are NOT in Japan but they have a good grasp on what is VIPstyle in the USA. No big deal. Your in Japan long time yeah me too so let them have it USA style. I think the old VIPstyle is UGLY myself and all the Japanese i know that had those cars LOVE the newer style cars....... so USA is also into the newer style most of the older school style is out.
not everyone on this site is green to vip tho. ive been in to vans/wagons since i 1st went to japan (8 years ago) and the more i saw them vip styled them more i liked them. as far as vip cars i can see whats vip and whats not but their not my thing. but i do have to agree with lorin in the fact that old school vip is rare in japan. and with the lux/exe style i think those of us that knew what we were talking about got sick of answering the same old questions and explaining the same things. but isnt lux/exe just a runoff/evolution of vipstyle?
shawnthemonster;47567 wrote: but isnt lux/exe just a runoff/evolution of vipstyle?
[QUOTE=shawnthemonster;47567] but isnt lux/exe just a runoff/evolution of vipstyle?[/QUOTE] That's what I said in my post. That the style evolved into something else...but it's just easier to stick to calling it VIP since that's where its' roots lie.
I think everyone just has different preferences on what vip is to them. You add your certain taste and style to it. You don't follow certain guidelines on how your vehicle is supposed to look. Although, the widebody style in the previous picture would be considered traditional vip. I'm more of a sleek hard body type style of a person. If that makes any sense. Haha. Just my 2 cents guys. I'm down for luxury vehicles and the definition of an ultimate luxury vehicle period.
VIP is VIP period......Manufactures have since built nicer, sleeker looking cars and VIP still exsist........in the interim....you got diffrent folks giving it diffrent names and such.... Micheal Jackson is still Micheal Jackson............sure, he has turned white and allegedly likes boys.........but he is still Michael Jackson:eek:
gato;47613 wrote:Micheal Jackson is still Micheal Jackson............sure, he has turned white and allegedly likes boys.........but he is still Michael Jackson:eek:
[QUOTE=gato;47613]Micheal Jackson is still Micheal Jackson............sure, he has turned white and allegedly likes boys.........but he is still Michael Jackson:eek:[/QUOTE] dude, i straight LMAO when i read this... but yeah vip vs. exe, you'd never heard the end of it...:smiley:
DXJP;47345 wrote:おとといきあがれ
The literal translation of the tsurai ichi is what I said. Now if living in japan for 13 years and speeaking japanese fluent isnt enough for some of you well then
and ichi depends on the kanji however this is spelt with katakana so the ichi would meen the point or at that point.
[QUOTE=DXJP;47345]おとといきあがれ The literal translation of the tsurai ichi is what I said. Now if living in japan for 13 years and speeaking japanese fluent isnt enough for some of you well then and ichi depends on the kanji however this is spelt with katakana so the ichi would meen the point or at that point.[/QUOTE] Oops... didn't see your earlier post when I wondered what the etymology was. Thanks!!
I think its called a "Bippu-hikori-Porpoise" or somethin...=) lol..I keed!
OMG....dude the last post was over 3 YEARS ago.
ha.... its now just called "flush"