Thread #3871
Does anyone have one? I'm still debating if I should get it...lmk what you guys think...
no you should not get it
Blitz intake or 60 bowls of PHO? Hard decision...
888DC;51506 wrote:Blitz intake or 60 bowls of PHO? Hard decision...
[QUOTE=888DC;51506]Blitz intake or 60 bowls of PHO? Hard decision...[/QUOTE] Mmmmmm Pho.....
sigh...a little more info would be nice. Yes Blitz parts cost more...I am sure you can pick up a knock-off of that at wallmart for $5. If your car is turbo or you trully care about the engine, don't get it. It flows extremely well, but it also lets debris pass through its mesh and get into your engine. If it's turbo, the compressor wheel gets chewed up by all the little rocks hitting it. I had one on my mitsubishi back in the day and it did work...but once again it gets a lot of crap into your engine. I would suggest picking up an HKS filter...but if you are allready getting discouraged about the price of Blitz filter, HKS will be worse. Oh and keep in mind that if your car has a MAF and if you use oil based filter, oil will clog up your sensor thus screwing up cars A/F ratio and in turn decreasing cars power.
Dark Anghell;51548 wrote:sigh...a little more info would be nice. Yes Blitz parts cost more...I am sure you can pick up a knock-off of that at wallmart for $5.
If your car is turbo or you trully care about the engine, don't get it. It flows extremely well, but it also lets debris pass through its mesh and get into your engine. If it's turbo, the compressor wheel gets chewed up by all the little rocks hitting it.
I had one on my mitsubishi back in the day and it did work...but once again it gets a lot of crap into your engine.
I would suggest picking up an HKS filter...but if you are allready getting discouraged about the price of Blitz filter, HKS will be worse.
Oh and keep in mind that if your car has a MAF and if you use oil based filter, oil will clog up your sensor thus screwing up cars A/F ratio and in turn decreasing cars power.
[QUOTE=Dark Anghell;51548]sigh...a little more info would be nice. Yes Blitz parts cost more...I am sure you can pick up a knock-off of that at wallmart for $5. If your car is turbo or you trully care about the engine, don't get it. It flows extremely well, but it also lets debris pass through its mesh and get into your engine. If it's turbo, the compressor wheel gets chewed up by all the little rocks hitting it. I had one on my mitsubishi back in the day and it did work...but once again it gets a lot of crap into your engine. I would suggest picking up an HKS filter...but if you are allready getting discouraged about the price of Blitz filter, HKS will be worse. Oh and keep in mind that if your car has a MAF and if you use oil based filter, oil will clog up your sensor thus screwing up cars A/F ratio and in turn decreasing cars power.[/QUOTE] The price isn't what bothers me (trust me if you know what I already purchased for the car), it's more so in it making a power difference in my LS430. I just was craving PHO hehehe. Thanks for that info, I really didn't know that it could damage my engine more than it could help it. I'll keep that in mind and look up the HKS site as well. =) I think this was the most helpful post I've gotten! Thanks- (arigatou)
Dark Anghell;51548 wrote:sigh...a little more info would be nice. Yes Blitz parts cost more...I am sure you can pick up a knock-off of that at wallmart for $5.
If your car is turbo or you trully care about the engine, don't get it. It flows extremely well, but it also lets debris pass through its mesh and get into your engine. If it's turbo, the compressor wheel gets chewed up by all the little rocks hitting it.
I had one on my mitsubishi back in the day and it did work...but once again it gets a lot of crap into your engine.
I would suggest picking up an HKS filter...but if you are allready getting discouraged about the price of Blitz filter, HKS will be worse.
Oh and keep in mind that if your car has a MAF and if you use oil based filter, oil will clog up your sensor thus screwing up cars A/F ratio and in turn decreasing cars power.
[QUOTE=Dark Anghell;51548]sigh...a little more info would be nice. Yes Blitz parts cost more...I am sure you can pick up a knock-off of that at wallmart for $5. If your car is turbo or you trully care about the engine, don't get it. It flows extremely well, but it also lets debris pass through its mesh and get into your engine. If it's turbo, the compressor wheel gets chewed up by all the little rocks hitting it. I had one on my mitsubishi back in the day and it did work...but once again it gets a lot of crap into your engine. I would suggest picking up an HKS filter...but if you are allready getting discouraged about the price of Blitz filter, HKS will be worse. Oh and keep in mind that if your car has a MAF and if you use oil based filter, oil will clog up your sensor thus screwing up cars A/F ratio and in turn decreasing cars power.[/QUOTE] I had no idea about this. I have a Tenzo air filter..THese are just like K & N's they need to be lubed up..So your saying that this type of filter will cause a loss in power.? is it reversable once you remove it?
Yes it is. Get rid of that thing and use some electronic parts cleaner (can be purchased at Radio Schack or other electronic stores) and spray the sensor located inside the MAF. My buddy used to have Grouppe M intakes on his M5 and in 3-4 months his MAFs were shot and the tech said it was due to the oil getting onto the sensor and thus messing up the air reading. When the car can't figure out the exact amount of air coming in it will either go into an open loop mode where it basically dumps a tonn of fuel into the engine to prevent it from blowing up OR it will not deliver enough fuel...in either case your air-to-fuel ratio is messed up and causes a loss in power. HKS filters are much better but you have to replace the foam piece pretty often...BUT it flows A LOT of air.
Dark Anghell;51930 wrote:Yes it is. Get rid of that thing and use some electronic parts cleaner (can be purchased at Radio Schack or other electronic stores) and spray the sensor located inside the MAF.
My buddy used to have Grouppe M intakes on his M5 and in 3-4 months his MAFs were shot and the tech said it was due to the oil getting onto the sensor and thus messing up the air reading. When the car can't figure out the exact amount of air coming in it will either go into an open loop mode where it basically dumps a tonn of fuel into the engine to prevent it from blowing up OR it will not deliver enough fuel...in either case your air-to-fuel ratio is messed up and causes a loss in power.
HKS filters are much better but you have to replace the foam piece pretty often...BUT it flows A LOT of air.
[QUOTE=Dark Anghell;51930]Yes it is. Get rid of that thing and use some electronic parts cleaner (can be purchased at Radio Schack or other electronic stores) and spray the sensor located inside the MAF. My buddy used to have Grouppe M intakes on his M5 and in 3-4 months his MAFs were shot and the tech said it was due to the oil getting onto the sensor and thus messing up the air reading. When the car can't figure out the exact amount of air coming in it will either go into an open loop mode where it basically dumps a tonn of fuel into the engine to prevent it from blowing up OR it will not deliver enough fuel...in either case your air-to-fuel ratio is messed up and causes a loss in power. HKS filters are much better but you have to replace the foam piece pretty often...BUT it flows A LOT of air.[/QUOTE] How often would you need to replace the foam piece? If HKS is better than I think I'm heading toward that direction. I just want to guage how long before replacing the foam piece. Thanks!
Dark Anghell;51930 wrote:Yes it is. Get rid of that thing and use some electronic parts cleaner (can be purchased at Radio Schack or other electronic stores) and spray the sensor located inside the MAF.
My buddy used to have Grouppe M intakes on his M5 and in 3-4 months his MAFs were shot and the tech said it was due to the oil getting onto the sensor and thus messing up the air reading. When the car can't figure out the exact amount of air coming in it will either go into an open loop mode where it basically dumps a tonn of fuel into the engine to prevent it from blowing up OR it will not deliver enough fuel...in either case your air-to-fuel ratio is messed up and causes a loss in power.
HKS filters are much better but you have to replace the foam piece pretty often...BUT it flows A LOT of air.
[QUOTE=Dark Anghell;51930]Yes it is. Get rid of that thing and use some electronic parts cleaner (can be purchased at Radio Schack or other electronic stores) and spray the sensor located inside the MAF. My buddy used to have Grouppe M intakes on his M5 and in 3-4 months his MAFs were shot and the tech said it was due to the oil getting onto the sensor and thus messing up the air reading. When the car can't figure out the exact amount of air coming in it will either go into an open loop mode where it basically dumps a tonn of fuel into the engine to prevent it from blowing up OR it will not deliver enough fuel...in either case your air-to-fuel ratio is messed up and causes a loss in power. HKS filters are much better but you have to replace the foam piece pretty often...BUT it flows A LOT of air.[/QUOTE] Thats really interesting..but makes alot of sense. I wondered why when I bought this the guy was trying to get me to spend the extra cash to buy the HKS one..I thought they were just trying to upsell..Now whats really wiered is that I have an 98 suburban and 03 chevy truck that I used K&N intake system and both of the vehicles never had any problem and moth had sensors. NOw that I am thinking about why would they make them for the cars if they damage or make the loose performance? I thought they where to give more performance.
They work great on cars that use MAP (mass air pressure) sensors...hondas have that setup. Most other cars use MAF (mass air flow) system and some of them are more touchy than others...so in certain cars these systems work great and in others they do not. I think it has to do with the amount of air being sucked into the engine...if the flow is fast enough to make the oil come out of the filter and clog the sensor, the MAF will fail...cars like Chevys and other low HP cars don't flow enough air to make that happen (at least that's my theory). Most companies don't care about negative effects their filters will bring to cars...just like certain downpipes cause check engine light to come on which also causes a decrease in performance. It is a business afterall. As for time intevals for filter changes...it depends. My buddies sr20'ed engine required new filter every 4-6 months. For other cars it's probably once a year...whenever it gets dirty, you replace it. The replacement is not that expensive.
Dark Anghell;51967 wrote:They work great on cars that use MAP (mass air pressure) sensors...hondas have that setup. Most other cars use MAF (mass air flow) system and some of them are more touchy than others...so in certain cars these systems work great and in others they do not. I think it has to do with the amount of air being sucked into the engine...if the flow is fast enough to make the oil come out of the filter and clog the sensor, the MAF will fail...cars like Chevys and other low HP cars don't flow enough air to make that happen (at least that's my theory). Most companies don't care about negative effects their filters will bring to cars...just like certain downpipes cause check engine light to come on which also causes a decrease in performance. It is a business afterall.
As for time intevals for filter changes...it depends. My buddies sr20'ed engine required new filter every 4-6 months. For other cars it's probably once a year...whenever it gets dirty, you replace it. The replacement is not that expensive.
[QUOTE=Dark Anghell;51967]They work great on cars that use MAP (mass air pressure) sensors...hondas have that setup. Most other cars use MAF (mass air flow) system and some of them are more touchy than others...so in certain cars these systems work great and in others they do not. I think it has to do with the amount of air being sucked into the engine...if the flow is fast enough to make the oil come out of the filter and clog the sensor, the MAF will fail...cars like Chevys and other low HP cars don't flow enough air to make that happen (at least that's my theory). Most companies don't care about negative effects their filters will bring to cars...just like certain downpipes cause check engine light to come on which also causes a decrease in performance. It is a business afterall. As for time intevals for filter changes...it depends. My buddies sr20'ed engine required new filter every 4-6 months. For other cars it's probably once a year...whenever it gets dirty, you replace it. The replacement is not that expensive.[/QUOTE] That isn't too bad as far as filter changes. I was afraid it would be every other month in replacing the filter. Thanks, I'm seriously considering the HKS one now.
also, people who over-oil the KnN filters are the ones that tend to have a maf mess up.
after reading everything that everyone posted, it doesn't seem like it's something I want to hassle myself with...thanks for all your help in deciding!
I have an Injen intake on my UCF10.
Maye look into a fujita, thats what AF is running on their ls430.