Gas boycott!

On the 15th of this month, dont buy gas. If no one buys,..Big Oil will loose $2 billion. They will lower gas prices as much as 35 cents the next day! It worked in 1997. Pass it on!

The real problem is with Ethenol and the cloud it casts over our society.  It's not a better alternative, it hurts engine componants, it takes a lot of fuel expended to create it (It can't be transferred through a pipeline as it has a shelf life), and politicians are having a field day with it.

If nobody buys gas on the 15th, they'll just raise gas prices for the rest of the week. And also, since profit is calculated quarterly, it won't even make a noticeable dent.

So people will buy gas on the day before or the day after so what difference will it make? Plus, who actually thinks 2 billion dollars will put a hurt in their pockets??? The only way for this to work, in my eyes, would be to not buy gas for a full week.
cheers

People just to need convert in Hybrids like the Toyota Prius. My sister bought an 05 last year and gets 600 miles on full tank. A full tank for her is like $25-$30. :p From LA to San Francisco and SF to LA, is one tank. haha
 
Did you also hear about the 100 MPG Prius? Its in the works right now but I believe its an extra $10,000-$12,000 mod.

What cracks me up is that most people on this board (myself included) drive cars with V8 engines, and they complain about gas prices and how much gas their cars take. Don't like either one...buy a civic or any hybrid.

Now that that's out of the way, lets take a look at simple supply and demand graph that some have seen in their econ class. Technically the supply of crude oil is decreasing as the time goes on, but for simplicity lets say that it's constant. So the only thing that can change is the demand for oil. So with more and more people around the world being able to afford cars, and new markets emerging every day (some are not energy efficient), the demand for oil is constantly going up. What does that mean? The prices go up as well...and theres nothing we can really do.

Not filling up for a day or a week or even a month won't do a whole lot. Why? Because the demand for oil the day after will be much greater, which will drive the prices even higher.

So the only way we can reduce the prices is to open up our own oil supplies which will shift the supply curve, thus driving the prices of gas down. OR change our preferences for types of cars that we drive. If everyone drove a car that gets 100mpg and/or carpooled every day, the demand for gas will drop permanently (thus reducing the prices).

If we opened up our own supply lines what will be the motivation for companies to lower the price??? The demand will still be there, like you stated, and we would have to pay higher wages to our own people to get the same product. Also, I dont believe that if we all drove 100mpg cars that the price would lower. Why would it? The oil companies would sell less oil, but make crap loads less money. To make up for it the price would probably go up again. 
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OK here's how this system works: right now most of our oil comes from middle east. Middle East sells its oil to countries all over the world, and they can care less who buys it as long as they get paid. Since supply is scarse, we have to outbid other countries in order to get the amount that we want. On top of that, our oil refineries are outdated because the tree huggers don't want any more refineries to be built...even though the technology has improved so much that spills rarely happen. So here's what happens: we outbid other countries to get crude oil (allready paying high prices). Now we need to convert it to gas, and since our refineries suck balls, we pay middle east and canada to do that for us...I will write it again...WE PAY other countries to do that (drives allready high price even higher). The ending result: rediculously high gas prices across US.

Why would drilling for oil in Alaska help? Well for starters, we can set our own prices on things. So instead of trying to outbid china, we get as much as we need and sell the rest at market prices (making some major $$). This will also open up many much needed jobs in Alaska, bringing money into economy due to lower unemployment rate. Now, just imagine if we would also have up to date refineries that we own...once again we pay wholesale prices. All of this will result in lower gas prices.

Right now we depend on other countries for oil and having places refine it. 

As far as driving cars that get 70mpg...On average these cars eat 1/2 as much gas as other cars do. So lets blow this out of proportion and say that every american drives a car like that. US will be able to reduce it's oil purchases by half. So that in turn drives the worldwide demand down as well...now oil companies are producing more than countries want. How can you make a person buy 10 cups of coffee if they only want 5? You drop the price until they buy it just because it's cheap...(think of supersizing your McDs meal for only .25...same idea). So now oil companies have dropped their prices to make their product more appealing to its customers this driving the demand back up. As you can see this is not a flat line (demand), it fluctuates with prices. 

Oil companies will continue to raise their prices as long as countries are willing to pay that much and not do anything about it.

[QUOTE=Dark Anghell;57125]
Why would drilling for oil in Alaska help? Well for starters, we can set our own prices on things. So instead of trying to outbid china, we get as much as we need and sell the rest at market prices (making some major $$). This will also open up many much needed jobs in Alaska, bringing money into economy due to lower unemployment rate. Now, just imagine if we would also have up to date refineries that we own...once again we pay wholesale prices. All of this will result in lower gas prices.

Right now we depend on other countries for oil and having places refine it. 
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I wasnt going to sasy anything but this is crazy.    For someone that preaches about basic economic supply and demand charts, you are a tad off sir.   Just because a major oil company has their own refinery does not mean the price will drop.    Economically, in a capitalistic system, you will just battle your next competitor.   What will drive them down?   We sure as hell know that Shell and all the others arent ready to make the first move.   So what will cause them to change?  Instead, we use escalating tensions in middle eastern countries (which Johnson screwed up for us in the first place) to up the price on barrels post dated from the incident.   Have you been to Alaska?  Quite an expansive area of ANWR.  Why wouldnt we use that as a reserve supply when Arab countries impose an embargo against us again?   If you believe they dont care who they sell to, take a political science class.   The only one in the Arab country that tolerates us is Saudi Arabia, and that is only because the royal family wants protection from terrorists whom are after them for helping us in the first place.  Screwed up much?   We still dont trust Saudi Arabia further than we can throw them.  Why not use ANWR as back up storage.  

And dont even act like our prices are high.   I had a friend return from Europe and had to pay 7 dollars for a gallon.   We bitch about 3 bucks.  Drive more economic cars and it WILL lower lower price.   Go back to your simple economic chart, and you will see once you have a shift of the demand downward, price will go down with it.   This is irrelevant though as the supply is depleting quickly itself, screwing up the chart.

Oh and the ethanol argument is ridiculous too.   Nebraska and the midwest have run it for a LONG time now and it does not mess up engines or whatever that claim is.  It gives you ten cents cheaper per gallon on gas, and a higher octane.   Woo hoo for 91 octane being 2.70 a gallon!

scotty

ugh...I did mention driving more economical cars. 

Right now China is growing at an astonishing rate, and they need more and more fuel to power their factories and increased number of cars (more people can afford them). So middle east can and will allow bid wars to happen driving the prices down. If there's only 1mill barells available and we want 800K of them while china wants about the same, the prices will go up...just look at the supply and demand graph. Now lets imagine that the oil supply is increased...the prices will have to drop.

Now moving on to drilling in Alaska. If american companies are the ones drilling for oil, and are the ones refining it (instead of Middle East and Canada), the prices will come down. We will be less dependent on middle east. The main argument against drilling is the effect it will have on wildlife since the oil deposit is located in the wildlife refuge. But the environmental impacts are minimal...I have researched this issue for a class.

Yes Europe is paying $7 for gasoline. But having been born and raised in europe I can tell you that people don't drive as much as we do. The metro system is 100x better than what we have in US, so people actually use it. Also many people there drive  more economical cars instead of competing for size and power like we do here in US (where bigger is better).

Here is wht it boils down to: with more countries improving their status (money wise), they require more oil to feed their energy needs. Thre are only few places on earth where oil is being pumped out. America is sitting on its reserves mainly because of the tree huggers who are against it (drilling). So with the demand constantly rising, and the supply slowly shrinking...we see prices climb like crazy. Opening up reserves won't solve the problem, but it will drive the prices down, improve our economy due to added jobs and people will spend more money on goods other than gasoline. Another benefit is time...we get more time to come up with fuel alternatives.

[QUOTE=Dark Anghell;57152]

Now moving on to drilling in Alaska. If american companies are the ones drilling for oil, and are the ones refining it (instead of Middle East and Canada), the prices will come down. We will be less dependent on middle east. The main argument against drilling is the effect it will have on wildlife since the oil deposit is located in the wildlife refuge. But the environmental impacts are minimal...I have researched this issue for a class.[/quote]

Yes I understand this.  My first cousin works for Schlumberge (sp?) and I realize the effects of drilling in Alaska, and the impacts.   You may say they are minimal, but then again you dont have an unsightly pipeline running across you state.   The drilling space will be small, yes, but what happens when terrorists hit that pipeline?   Do tell me.

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Here is wht it boils down to: with more countries improving their status (money wise), they require more oil to feed their energy needs. Thre are only few places on earth where oil is being pumped out. America is sitting on its reserves mainly because of the tree huggers who are against it (drilling). So with the demand constantly rising, and the supply slowly shrinking...we see prices climb like crazy. Opening up reserves won't solve the problem, but it will drive the prices down, improve our economy due to added jobs and people will spend more money on goods other than gasoline. Another benefit is time...we get more time to come up with fuel alternatives.[/QUOTE]

So why not save those?  You know oil companies will just continue to "find" new holes when are current ones are depleted.   As for jobs, I hope that is a joke.  It will bring no American jobs into the country, and will do nothing to stabilize the economy.   There will be no American jobs added.   I think we see it different ways:  I believe even if we did open new drilling locations, it would not lower prices.   It would just make it more dependant on when we actually NEED them.     Just differences of opinion I guess.    I dont think it would help us in the long run, or reduce the gas prices. 

If we spent half the time working on trying to drill in ANWR, as we do in making peace with OPEC, I dont think we'd be in this position.   All there is to it.

scotty

....why argue.. if you want to drive your car pay the price. gas is an inelastic product that has a limited resource(i guess?)

i currently pay around 3.50 a gallon (havent pumped gas in a while cause i blew a headgasket XD ) taks about 50-60$ to top the tank and i run premium. i drive a six inline rwd 89 toyota cressida. 

sure it would be nice to have cheaper gas. but as of the moment, i shrug it off.

You have to excuse me right away because i am a little buzzed and pretty pissed about some events that happened tonight...but anyway...

The jobs will be created because we will need contractors to build the systems to pump the oil from the ground. We will also need engineers to design them and regular personell to up-keep those things. These people will take their paychecks and spend a good portion of them (knowing american people, they will spend 120% of them...since savings rate is super small)...thus they will "put" money back into economy. That's where the economic boost will come from.

Now the price of gasoline...demand is somewhat flat for now...people who have no choice will continue to buy gasoline, and countries will consume it for energy (once again, its almost constant). Now lets add another billion barrels a day to the supply. In order to sell all of them, the prices will have to drop. Otherwise these companies will continue to overproduce. Shit we can also think about monopolies...looking at oil industry it is in fact one huge monopoly since most companies are from middle east. So they can set their own prices and if we don't like them...tough luck finding oil elsewhere. But if we had our own supply, we would rely less on exxon and other companies, thus we can negotiate better prices.

OR we can put the past behind us and start trading with Russia...they have mass oil reserves.

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Oh and the ethanol argument is ridiculous too.   Nebraska and the midwest have run it for a LONG time now and it does not mess up engines or whatever that claim is.  It gives you ten cents cheaper per gallon on gas, and a higher octane.   Woo hoo for 91 octane being 2.70 a gallon!

scotty[/QUOTE]
Hahaha, that's so easy to just say...now back it up.  Why do people say something like that then not give information to support their opposition?  Do you know how ethanol works?  How it burns?  How it causes corrosion?    

* Ethanol-based fuels are not compatible with some fuel system components.
    * Examples of extreme corrosion of ferrous components, and internal separation of portions of rubber fuel tanks have been observed in some vehicles using ethanol fuels.
    * Formation of salt deposits, jelly-like deposits on fuel strainer screens
    * Can negatively affect electric fuel pumps by increasing internal wear and undesirable spark generation.
    * Is not compatible with capacitance fuel level gauging indicators and may cause erroneous fuel quantity indications in vehicles that employ that system.
    * Decreases fuel-economy by 15-30%. 

But it's not just how it effects cars and boats (anything with a motor).
    * A Stanford University study released in April 2007 predicted that the number of respiratory-related deaths and hospitalizations in the US would be likely to increase if every vehicle ran on fuel made primarily from ethanol.
    * If the world switches from fossil fuels to ethanol, the prices for food and feedstocks will increase.
* Ethanol won't significantly reduce our oil imports; adding more ethanol to our gas tanks adds further complexity to our motor-fuel supply chain, which will lead to further price hikes at the pump; and, most important (and most astonishing), it may take more energy to produce a gallon of ethanol than it actually contains.

To back this up I bring you this:
*  A recent report estimates that making ethanol from corn requires 29 percent more fossil energy than the ethanol fuel itself actually contains.

Two scientists calculated all the fuel inputs for ethanol production—from the diesel fuel for the tractor planting the corn, to the fertilizer put in the field, to the energy needed at the processing plant—and found that ethanol is a net energy-loser. According to their calculations, ethanol contains about 76,000 BTUs per gallon, but producing that ethanol from corn takes about 98,000 BTUs. For comparison, a gallon of gasoline contains about 116,000 BTUs per gallon. But making that gallon of gas—from drilling the well, to transportation, through refining—requires around 22,000 BTUs.

8 billion gallons of ethanol will do almost nothing to reduce our oil imports. Eight billion gallons may sound like a lot, until you realize that America burned more than 134 billion gallons of gasoline last year. By 2012, those 8 billion gallons might reduce America's overall oil consumption by 0.5 percent.

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* Ethanol-based fuels are not compatible with some fuel system components.
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Then please explain why Nebraska cars arent dying sooner than other regions?  Can you explain why they have a longer longevity than your coastal cars?     And dont say weather, because wwe get the shit of it too.

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    * Examples of extreme corrosion of ferrous components, and internal separation of portions of rubber fuel tanks have been observed in some vehicles using ethanol fuels.
    * Formation of salt deposits, jelly-like deposits on fuel strainer screens
    * Can negatively affect electric fuel pumps by increasing internal wear and undesirable spark generation.
    * Is not compatible with capacitance fuel level gauging indicators and may cause erroneous fuel quantity indications in vehicles that employ that system.
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I have known no one to have any of these problems.  Somehow if it did however, the cost to repair ratio would be far greater in favor of ethanol.  You are saving 10-15 cents per gallon every time you fill up.  Even if something did break, it would be cheaper in the long run.


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    * Decreases fuel-economy by 15-30%. [/quote]

Complete and utter bullshit.   Where do you copy and paste your statisitics from?  I tried running regular, and switched back because I wasnt getting the same mpg as ethanol.   I get 35 mpg in the city on heavy ass 17s.  


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But it's not just how it effects cars and boats (anything with a motor).
    * A Stanford University study released in April 2007 predicted that the number of respiratory-related deaths and hospitalizations in the US would be likely to increase if every vehicle ran on fuel made primarily from ethanol.
    * If the world switches from fossil fuels to ethanol, the prices for food and feedstocks will increase.
* Ethanol won't significantly reduce our oil imports; adding more ethanol to our gas tanks adds further complexity to our motor-fuel supply chain, which will lead to further price hikes at the pump; and, most important (and most astonishing), it may take more energy to produce a gallon of ethanol than it actually contains.[/quote]

You are stretching it sir.   The respiratory related illness will be from the haze that is lingering over from all the vehicles.  It would increase even if they werent primararily on ethanol.   The number of vehicles and people in the US is growing rapidly if you didnt know.    Who cares if feedstocks increase?  Holy shit a boost for the economy!  I know states like Nebraska dont allow huge conglomerate feed lots, so it is helping the small farmers.   Wow helping the poor, what a concept.    Ethanol WOULD greatly reduce oil imports as we wouldnt need as much.  How do you make the correlation that more complex equals more hikes?  It is less hikes as we wont have such a demand (see above posts before).     Corn is a replenishable resource.  Simple as that.  Oil is not.   Where are you getting lost?



[quote]Two scientists calculated all the fuel inputs for ethanol production—from the diesel fuel for the tractor planting the corn, to the fertilizer put in the field, to the energy needed at the processing plant—and found that ethanol is a net energy-loser. According to their calculations, ethanol contains about 76,000 BTUs per gallon, but producing that ethanol from corn takes about 98,000 BTUs. For comparison, a gallon of gasoline contains about 116,000 BTUs per gallon. But making that gallon of gas—from drilling the well, to transportation, through refining—requires around 22,000 BTUs.[/quote]

Yet again though, ethanol uses replenshible resources.   Energy is not the issue so much as resources being lost.  Im sorry but get a better site to copy and paste from.   My whole family and everyone I know runs ethanol no problem.   We support our state agriculture and economy with it also.   I guess you would rather support a monarchy from across seas.    Maybe the government is on to something when they run E85 vehicles themselves.  Just a thought.  Cant be that bad right?

[QUOTE=Dark Anghell;57205]You have to excuse me right away because i am a little buzzed and pretty pissed about some events that happened tonight...but anyway...[/quote]

Its all good man.  Nothing personal of course here.

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The jobs will be created because we will need contractors to build the systems to pump the oil from the ground. We will also need engineers to design them and regular personell to up-keep those things. These people will take their paychecks and spend a good portion of them (knowing american people, they will spend 120% of them...since savings rate is super small)...thus they will "put" money back into economy. That's where the economic boost will come from.[/quote]

See this is where Im disagreeing.  It will provide jobs, yes, but not American jobs.  Almost all of the oil companies have an endless supply of stations across the world to employ people of other countries at cheaper prices.   Even if they are drilling in ANWR, the check will come from a foreign market, and likely return to that market.   I dont see it boostting our economy at all.  

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Now the price of gasoline...demand is somewhat flat for now...people who have no choice will continue to buy gasoline, and countries will consume it for energy (once again, its almost constant). Now lets add another billion barrels a day to the supply. In order to sell all of them, the prices will have to drop. Otherwise these companies will continue to overproduce. Shit we can also think about monopolies...looking at oil industry it is in fact one huge monopoly since most companies are from middle east. So they can set their own prices and if we don't like them...tough luck finding oil elsewhere. But if we had our own supply, we would rely less on exxon and other companies, thus we can negotiate better prices.

OR we can put the past behind us and start trading with Russia...they have mass oil reserves.[/QUOTE]

The demand is not flat by any means at teh current moment worldwide.  As you state China is spiking for oil as is the US.  Thats why the bidding wars happen.    Yes I agree the oil industry is one huge monopoly in the Middle East.   I dont think theyll have a surplus though, as they can cut production at any time to slow it down to have just enough demand.  These sheiks are not stupid when it comes to money at all.  Theyll cut back and leave some in their own storage.    

As for Russia, yes I wish we had better economic and foreign policies to do that.   I sttill blame the democratic LBJ for everything.   He has fucked our country six ways from Sunday.    The only thing I see left is stepping up shuttle diplomacy and trying that again like Carter did.

Im not trying to jump into this debate, but im just going to add that if we drilled in alaska the oil there would only last us (as in the USA) approximately 14 months, my source on this is world news tonight (peter jennings told me before he died).

i wont be buying gas that day, just curious to see if anything happens if a lot of people didnt fill up.  gotta pay to play i guess

That is true that Alaska doesn't have as much oil as middle east does. But here's the tricky issue...when news report figues like that they leave out one important factor: oil deposits would only last 7-8 months if ALL of our oil came from Alaska region. But keep in mind that we get our oil from all over the world...even south america I believe. According to ECOWorld.com, if we tapped into alaska, we would reduce our dependency for Middle Eastern oil by 25%. Now that is a lot. We can't sustain it for a very long time, but every little bit helps. Another thing to keep in mind is that we don't even know just how much oil we have there. Environmentalists won't let us do more extensive testing because it would damage the environment and if we find more than we expected...I can see some key players getting very excited. 

Now about the jobs and economy boost:
Lets consider that oil companies do in fact hire only mexican workers at a cheaper rate (highly unlikely, but lets go with it). These workers will need a place to live while the drilling is taking place, so now we have need for additional housing. Contractors need more empoyees, which equals jobs. Oil workers will need food, clothing, cars, and other every day nessessities...once again pumping money into Alaskas economy. So even though oil companies hire people from other countries, the impact will be seen everywhere and benefits will be shared by everyone.

[QUOTE=scottyxb;57249] Im sorry but get a better site to copy and paste from.   My whole family and everyone I know runs ethanol no problem.   We support our state agriculture and economy with it also.[/QUOTE]
That exactly it, you hit the nail on it's disgruntled head.  You're protecting your jobs.  You're the last person that should be giving the advice on this.  It needs to be someone that has nothing to lose from it.  Not someone who has everything to gain from it.  Yes, I copy and pasted it..from several sources.  I'm not an expert and neither are you.  So I chose to get my information from scientific and analytical sources that do things you and I cannot and know far more than we all do combined.  Your comments fell before deaf ears...

Dark, I do realize it will provide some economic stimulation, but I dont think itll be the huge boost necessary.  Hell Alaskan citizens will just get different stipends at teh end of the year returns.   Who knows.    

El, how is it protecting my jobs?  Aside from the fact Im a citizen of Nebraska (who doesnt actually doesnt pay taxes) it doesnt affect me jack shit.   Im just trying to help the overall economy as a whole.   It's not like Im gonna knock Heineman for sending this (oh so precious) corn to Cuba because there is such a surplus.    Trust me, theres more of an abundance of corn than oil in the US during the year.   Im no expert on it.  Im given a couple speechs on it and written a paper, but do not consider myself an expert.  You're right.   I dont think we're going to see eye to eye on this so theres not much point to it.  It is falling on deaf ears as some people are too stubborn.   Ill just enjoy my 4 cylinder econobox on ethanol that gets 35 mpg for the next 20 years.  

Scotty

[QUOTE=scottyxb;57294]Dark, I do realize it will provide some economic stimulation, but I dont think itll be the huge boost necessary.  Hell Alaskan citizens will just get different stipends at teh end of the year returns.   Who knows.    

El, how is it protecting my jobs?  Aside from the fact Im a citizen of Nebraska (who doesnt actually doesnt pay taxes) it doesnt affect me jack shit.   Im just trying to help the overall economy as a whole.   It's not like Im gonna knock Heineman for sending this (oh so precious) corn to Cuba because there is such a surplus.    Trust me, theres more of an abundance of corn than oil in the US during the year.   Im no expert on it.  Im given a couple speechs on it and written a paper, but do not consider myself an expert.  You're right.   I dont think we're going to see eye to eye on this so theres not much point to it.  It is falling on deaf ears as some people are too stubborn.   Ill just enjoy my 4 cylinder econobox on ethanol that gets 35 mpg for the next 20 years.  

Scotty[/QUOTE]
Fair enough.  I just based what I said on your location and how you worded your response.  (BTW I've had several injectors fail since ethanol came into the equation.  The cause was due to corrosion as per RC Engineering)

Ah I see interesting.  I want you to know too that I have no hard feelings.   Ive just never heard of anything previous wrong due to ethanol and cars breaking.  I guess time will tell.  Nothing against you though.  I hope it's all good.

ethanol eats up the original fuel lines/some metals? i've read up on it, it's been a while though. you need to get the gas tank coated in a plastic? and as well as run all plastic fuel lines? something like that. also need to convert injectors to be able to shoot ethanol (ethanol specific injectors) and need to figure out how to not fuxor your motor also. SOMETHING along the lines of this, as yes, it has been a LONG time since i've read up on using complete e85 ethanol in your car. 

upside is, it's lke 135 octane or something, and you can boost like 25lbs just like boosting 8lbs (heatwise?). 

and, you also need to just pay for your gas. people complain and cry about gas, but they are still going to pay for it. we live in a society that needs to use gas to get to work, get to school, get our food, everything. try going without your car for a week, see how much YOU hurt from it.

nothing like complaining about gas prices, yet still paying for it all the same.  

if you are tired of getting shafted, boycotting won't help. getting involved in politics will.

From my personal experience ever since the introduction of Ethonol I have noticed a loss in gas mileage as well as have seen a slight increase in engine temperature.  I have not changed my driving habits, 92 octane, as well as where I pump my gas.  Ethnol got the thumbs down from me.

Sukoshiyoshi

I am pretty sure if no one buys gas for one day it will not lower the price or even make a dent in the price for the following days. But I could be wrong:confused:

If I were to participate in this event (which I am not) and my car needed gas...I would buy it on the 14th or the 16th. So when the oil company looks at their QUARTERLY figures,there will be no change. Instead, think about reducing the amount of energy you use in your everyday life...so before driving your car for a half a block to your friends house, consider walking it.

if everybody here sells their big gas guzzler v8's and i'6's and go buy prius's will that make a difference? for us? yeah, we won't hurt our wallets as much. for the gas company? probably not. why? because too many people don't care about the fact that gas prices are going to go up, and they just deal with it. 

like i said, get involved in politics. start with the city, then county, then state, and then go to federal. find out WHO is ACTUALLY making these gas prices go up. 

then go after them. start boycotting THEM. ur vote makes a difference, and if they introduce a bill to regulate these gas prices (such as heavy taxing on gas company's profits etc.) then vote for it. do this kind off stuff.

My temporary solution to high gas prices:
[img]http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/636/img0630zn5.jpg[/img]

pretty ghetto (okay, very), but it goes!

[QUOTE=Caoboy;59071]if everybody here sells their big gas guzzler v8's and i'6's and go buy prius's will that make a difference? for us? yeah, we won't hurt our wallets as much. for the gas company? probably not. why? because too many people don't care about the fact that gas prices are going to go up, and they just deal with it. 

like i said, get involved in politics. start with the city, then county, then state, and then go to federal. find out WHO is ACTUALLY making these gas prices go up. 

then go after them. start boycotting THEM. ur vote makes a difference, and if they introduce a bill to regulate these gas prices (such as heavy taxing on gas company's profits etc.) then vote for it. do this kind off stuff.[/QUOTE]

OK let's just say we boycot Opec and some other oil companies until they give us the price we want...they'll just start selling to other countries. This is a business, and we are a customer...if we don't buy then someone else will. 

Driving smaller cars will reduce gas demand, thus reducing our overall demand for oil. Prices may not go down (they should), but at least I won't have to pay $70 to fill up my tank which lasts me 250 miles.

my point exactly. it's not going to work boycotting them. i'm not going to buy gas on the 15th either, just because i already bought gas lol. 

either way, it's not the way to settle matters.

Don't you think if no on ebuys gas and they don't make enough money, they will just raise the price of gas on the 16th, then they know everyone who didn't buy it will need it and just deal with the price.