help the noob

how do a lot of the vip cars have that look where the back tires look like they are tilted outwards? yea i know this is a nub question:pat:

What you are seeing is the negative camber angle of the wheel, meaning the top of the tire/wheel is pointing inwards towards the top and sticking out towards, the bottom. This is an effect when you lower your car, as for VIP...the lower the better.

Performance wise a little camber is good because it improves handling,control, and grip through a turn.

thanks

how much do u have to lower your car to see this effect because i dont see the negative camber on all lowered cars

Technically, even if you lower a car .01" you'll see a (albeit minute) bit of negative camber. The more you lower, the more you get, except on some cars (like the front of a Y33) where camber is unobtainable without camber plates and such.

yeah, boo on the needing camber plates on the front (i have them but it still is annoying sometimes)

[quote=Underground;69086]how much do u have to lower your car to see this effect because i dont see the negative camber on all lowered cars[/quote]
 
Could be because in almost all other forms of modification, they try to avoid camber. So when they lower their cars, they will try to adjust the camber back to stock. Many people say that camber = very fast tyre wear. 
 
In the case of VIP cars, it is a desirable look because it allows you to get wheels that are wider than the guards, then tilt them in so they fit inside the guards. It gives your car a bulldog stance that leaves people slack-jawed everywhere you go

[quote=Dominik;69138]Could be because in almost all other forms of modification, they try to avoid camber. So when they lower their cars, they will try to adjust the camber back to stock. Many people say that camber = very fast tyre wear. 
 
In the case of VIP cars, it is a desirable look because it allows you to get wheels that are wider than the guards, then tilt them in so they fit inside the guards. It gives your car a bulldog stance that leaves people slack-jawed everywhere you go[/quote]

You also do not have camber issues on Macpherson suspensions, which is the primary type of suspension on today's modern cars because of the lack of space they take up.

they camber the tires excessively, for show, like dominik said, to fit a much bigger wheel under there stock fenders rather than do a pull or add a wide body on to the car.  usually this leads to custom work on the lower control arms and certain other areas of suspension to achieve this look. MOST are on air suspension, and most do not really drive with this excessive camber that you are seeing. they raise up the car a bit, and the tires 'shift' into a better position where there is more tire on the road.