Car's Limits at 8.5" up Front; Think I could Squeeze a 9.5"?

Right now, my wheels are 19 * 8.5 and 19 * 9.5. I found some wheels I love, but they are 19 * 9.5 and 19 * 10. Do you think if I stretch a 225 on the 9.5, it could work well in this application (I have 225s right now on the 8.5)? I am not worried about the back at all. Seeing as how I have all that spare room up front (because of the fender pull), do you think I could squeeze the 9.5 up there and space it? My biggest concern is not what the car would look like laid out (I know it would look super flush), but how it would look when I am raised to my normal ride height. Do you think they might stick out too wide and look ridiculous based off the pic I gave? Thanks for any input.

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/trefive/Cinco%20de%20Mayo/DSC00117.jpg[/img]

I just measured, and there is well over 1" of gap between the outside edge of the wheel and the lip of the fender...therefore, if I can perfect the offset, all should be well, right?

depends what the offsets are..if you got an 8.5 u[ front with what about a +35-+40 offset I am guessing...if you had the same width in a -10 or more you would be poking out..so it really depends on the offsets..if those 19x9.5 are the same offset as you have now..then you should be pretty flush and look pretty sick..

[quote=zion_97;73998]depends what the offsets are..if you got an 8.5 u[ front with what about a +35-+40 offset I am guessing...if you had the same width in a -10 or more you would be poking out..so it really depends on the offsets..if those 19x9.5 are the same offset as you have now..then you should be pretty flush and look pretty sick..[/quote]

They are a +45 and I am at a +40 right now. So maybe with a 5mm spacer, it should work?

YEah I am pretty sure it will work just think about the math..25cm = 1inch so by adding a 9.5+45 you are about  5mm away from an inch..you may not need a spacer at all depending on how you adjust your camber but if you do need one I would getimate about 7-10mm.

[quote=zion_97;74002]YEah I am pretty sure it will work just think about the math..25cm = 1inch so by adding a 9.5+45 you are about  5mm away from an inch..you may not need a spacer at all depending on how you adjust your camber but if you do need one I would getimate about 7-10mm.[/quote]

Thanks for the help!

Alright...I have the wheels in my possession, so I can divulge what they are.

BRAND NEW Brabus Mono V Multipiece :D

[img]http://www.ultracar.com/Brabus%20Wheels/WHEEL%20MONO%20V%202PC.jpg[/img]

19 * 9.5 ET45
19 * 10 ET35

It will be tricky to get them to work, but I will certainly try!

I think you will be fine get some 215/35/19's for the front  and 235/35/19 for the rear and you should be cake.

[quote=zion_97;74110]I think you will be fine get some 215/35/19's for the front  and 235/35/19 for the rear and you should be cake.[/quote]

Is that a relatively safe stretch for a 452? I want to have a SAFE stretch, that's my number one priority

You've got an 8.5 +40 on there now? I've done 8.5 +28 before, and it's very aggressive 
on the W202 or 203. 19x8.5 +28 would sit the same on the fender as 19x9.5 +40.

If anything, you'll need a spacer to get them to clear the front strut tube or coilover.

I love seeing people push the envelope with stuff like this. I was the first to run
9.5" on the front of a second-gen GS... and 11.5" on the rear.

I think you can make this work with a 225/35-19 front and 235/35-19 or 245/30-19 rear...

[quote=SoCalSC4;74166]You've got an 8.5 +40 on there now? I've done 8.5 +28 before, and it's very aggressive 
on the W202 or 203. 19x8.5 +28 would sit the same on the fender as 19x9.5 +40.

If anything, you'll need a spacer to get them to clear the front strut tube or coilover.

I love seeing people push the envelope with stuff like this. I was the first to run
9.5" on the front of a second-gen GS... and 11.5" on the rear.

I think you can make this work with a 225/35-19 front and 235/35-19 or 245/30-19 rear...[/quote]

I would love to make this work with using 225/35s, but I just don't want to buy the tires and have them be too big. I know I could more likely make them work with a 215/35, but that is a VERY aggressive stretch, and I would much rather have a 225. I wonder if I should just buy one 225/35 and see if it works; That way, if they don't fit, I only wasted $140, but if they work, there you go. What do you think?

By the way, you have an absolutely beautiful car. I remember you came to Cars and Coffee one time, and I was just amazed at the wonderful attention to detail. You have to let me know the next time you are going!

[quote=zion_97;74002]YEah I am pretty sure it will work just think about the math..25cm = 1inch so by adding a 9.5+45 you are about  5mm away from an inch..you may not need a spacer at all depending on how you adjust your camber but if you do need one I would getimate about 7-10mm.[/quote]

Uhm, I think your math is wrong. The difference between 8.5 +40 and 9.5 +45 is 8mm more out and 18mm less inside clearance. As long as you can clear the inside, 8mm outside is not gonna be a big deal if youre running the same stretch. 

[url]http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp[/url]

[QUOTE=nizzan4u2nv;74210]Uhm, I think your math is wrong. The difference between 8.5 +40 and 9.5 +45 is 8mm more out and 18mm less inside clearance. As long as you can clear the inside, 8mm outside is not gonna be a big deal if youre running the same stretch. 
[/QUOTE]
Actually 7.7mm outside and 17.7mm inside difference to be exact, but what nizzan said is correct.

check post below.

my bad just when I thought I was helping the dude out...lol

[quote=zion_97;74261]my bad just when I thought I was helping the dude out...lol[/quote]

According to the wheel offset calculator, I would need an 18mm spacer up front to be dead even with my current offset, and the wheel would stick out an extra ~inch at this point (which would make the offset ET27). It should still work because even though the wheel would be extended out, I have that room to spare when it's laid out. Anyone know of a good shop to have custom spacers made in Orange County? Do you think I should just try 20mm spacers first and see if those would work (wouldn't need those custom made) or would I be half-assing it?

[QUOTE=OCKlasse;74263]According to the wheel offset calculator, I would need an 18mm spacer up front to be dead even with my current offset, and the wheel would stick out an extra ~inch at this point (which would make the offset ET27). It should still work because even though the wheel would be extended out, I have that room to spare when it's laid out. Anyone know of a good shop to have custom spacers made in Orange County? Do you think I should just try 20mm spacers first and see if those would work (wouldn't need those custom made) or would I be half-assing it?[/QUOTE]
2mm is hardly anything that couldn't be fixed with some fender massaging.  2mm = 0.078in so yah, it's barely anything.  I would say it would be more cost effective for you.

[quote=elpresidente;74267]2mm is hardly anything that couldn't be fixed with some fender massaging.  2mm = 0.078in so yah, it's barely anything.  I would say it would be more cost effective for you.[/quote]

Perfect! I have some sitting in my garage right now...

Test fit the wheels...they will work! I need to have a 23mm spacer custom made, and then they're golden. I could get away with a 20, but then I would not able to do a full lock turn completely. I am just safer off with the 23. Surprisingly enough, they don't stick out that much. Pics to follow tomorrow.

Does anyone know a good place to have custom spacers made?

so use a 20mm bolt on
and a 3mm sandwich
no need for custom stuff

[quote=Yokotas13;74437]so use a 20mm bolt on
and a 3mm sandwich
no need for custom stuff[/quote]

Well...that's what I did to mount them, but I do not want any shimmy problems.

Here are some pics of them being test fitted - this was with a 3mm and a 20mm spacer. 

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Another potential problem area?

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To give an idea of what they look like on a C-Class:

[img]http://www.benzworld.org/gallery/data/8185/78103388005262003100616PM.JPG[/img]

updated pics above.

you wont have shimmy problems

i used to DD my 180 with 20mm + 8mm sandwiches before i got fitting wheels
no shimmy at all

tighten them jokers down and then check them again after 50 miles and 300 to make sure they are tight

[quote=VIPFlame;74568]tighten them jokers down and then check them again after 50 miles and 300 to make sure they are tight[/quote]

Is there more of a risk for the bolts to loosen if one has large spacers on his car?

why not just go with a 25mm?

[quote=OCKlasse;74655]Is there more of a risk for the bolts to loosen if one has large spacers on his car?[/quote]
no
if you TQ them, they stay Tqed if you use good nuts.

[quote=zion_97;74660]why not just go with a 25mm?[/quote]

I think I will