Thread #6308

XStatic BatCap???

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DriftGirlAugust 30, 2007
#84927

XStatic BatCap???

anyone heard of or use these? I went overboard with my stereo and I need sum serious help supporting the amps.

oh, no room for another full sized battery. :sad:
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anyone heard of or use these?  I went overboard with my stereo and I need sum serious help supporting the amps.  
 
oh, no room for another full sized battery. :sad:
DEEAugust 30, 2007
#84962
HO alternator is the way to go
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HO alternator is the way to go
zion_97August 30, 2007
#84968
Just get a capaciter and you should be fine maybe two.
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Just get a capaciter and you should be fine maybe two.
DEEAugust 30, 2007
#84974
If i had to choose between a batcap and cap I would go with the batcap....when u run multiple capacitor setups.....the discharge time is slower.....so u will still get dimming.....High Output alternator is the way to go.
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If i had to choose between a batcap and cap I would go with the batcap....when u run multiple capacitor setups.....the discharge time is slower.....so u will still get dimming.....High Output alternator is the way to go.
PseudonymAugust 30, 2007
#84993
before u go and drop serious change on a new alternator, u should consider upgrading the wiring under the hood to a thicker guage. commonly called the "big 3", it consists of upgrading the ground from the battery to the chassis, the ground from engine block to the chassis, and the power wire from the battery to the alternator. get yourself a bigger better battery (the biggest one that will fit). optima's are a popular choice, stinger makes some great ones, along with hawker oddysey batterys. i usually just stick with the largest starting battery i can get from either interstate or diehard.

if doing this doesnt fix your problem, consider a batcap as a bandaid, but the larger alternator will be the best solution.
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before u go and drop serious change on a new alternator, u should consider upgrading the wiring under the hood to a thicker guage.  commonly called the "big 3", it consists of upgrading the ground from the battery to the chassis, the ground from engine block to the chassis, and the power wire from the battery to the alternator.  get yourself a bigger better battery (the biggest one that will fit).  optima's are a popular choice, stinger makes some great ones, along with hawker oddysey batterys.  i usually just stick with the largest starting battery i can get from either interstate or diehard. 

if doing this doesnt fix your problem, consider a batcap as a bandaid, but the larger alternator will be the best solution.
DriftGirlAugust 30, 2007
#84996
Thanks for the input guys!
Oh, I will do your 'big 3' this weekend. seems like the cheapest route to get started on.

I'm running 3 amps and an air compressor BTW
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Thanks for the input guys! 
Oh, I will do your 'big 3' this weekend. seems like the cheapest route to get started on. 
 
I'm running 3 amps and an air compressor BTW
PseudonymAugust 30, 2007
#84997
which amps? what guage wire are u running to them?
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which amps?  what guage wire are u running to them?
DriftGirlAugust 31, 2007
#85024
2 coming off the (+) battery and then split in the trunk with a dist block.

ALPHASONIK- PMA1000DA Digital mono block 2060 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω Mono
ALPHASONIK- PMA1000DA Digital mono block 2060 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω Mono
ALPHASONIK- PMA2500A CLASS A/B BI-POLAR AMP (1) 1500watts
ALPHASONIK- PSW912 MAYHEM 900 SERIES 12's (x's 2 @ 1ohm ea)
Optima RedTop



No other wire upgrades. :sad:
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2 coming off the (+) battery and then split in the trunk with a dist block. 
 
ALPHASONIK- PMA1000DA Digital mono block 2060 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω Mono  
ALPHASONIK- PMA1000DA Digital mono block 2060 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω Mono
ALPHASONIK- PMA2500A CLASS A/B BI-POLAR AMP (1) 1500watts
ALPHASONIK- PSW912 MAYHEM 900 SERIES 12's (x's 2 @ 1ohm ea)
Optima RedTop 
 
 
 
No other wire upgrades. :sad:
DEEAugust 31, 2007
#85028
DriftGirl;85024 wrote:2 coming off the (+) battery and then split in the trunk with a dist block.

ALPHASONIK- PMA1000DA Digital mono block 2060 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω Mono
ALPHASONIK- PMA1000DA Digital mono block 2060 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω Mono
ALPHASONIK- PMA2500A CLASS A/B BI-POLAR AMP (1) 1500watts
ALPHASONIK- PSW912 MAYHEM 900 SERIES 12's (x's 2 @ 1ohm ea)
Optima RedTop



No other wire upgrades. :sad:



wow...too able to get full power out of those amps you would need over 550 amps...and you still have your compressors to add lol......realistically off of a stock 100-110 amp alternator...you would only be able to push 1200-1400 watts rms.....regardless what amp u use.......
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[quote=DriftGirl;85024]2 coming off the (+) battery and then split in the trunk with a dist block. 
 
ALPHASONIK- PMA1000DA Digital mono block 2060 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω Mono 
ALPHASONIK- PMA1000DA Digital mono block 2060 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω Mono
ALPHASONIK- PMA2500A CLASS A/B BI-POLAR AMP (1) 1500watts
ALPHASONIK- PSW912 MAYHEM 900 SERIES 12's (x's 2 @ 1ohm ea)
Optima RedTop 
 
 
 
No other wire upgrades. :sad:[/quote]
 
 
wow...too able to get full power out of those amps you would need over 550 amps...and you still have your compressors to add lol......realistically off of a stock 100-110 amp alternator...you would only be able to push 1200-1400 watts rms.....regardless what amp u use.......
NisAznMonkAugust 31, 2007
#85147
DriftGirl;84927 wrote:anyone heard of or use these? I went overboard with my stereo and I need sum serious help supporting the amps.

oh, no room for another full sized battery. :sad:


www.batcap.net

Do the big 3, but I don't think it'll make that much of a difference in your situation. If I were you I'd look into either a High Output alternator. www.ohiogen.com or Iraggi could probably get you going. You can also check your local alternator rebuild shops to see how much they will re-wind your factory alternator.

In my experience Ohio Generators normally builds plug and play alternators while Iraggi will use a GM-style alternator and have the housing modified to fit your vehicle. They aren't plug and play, but Dominick @ Iraggi should be able to tell you what wires go to what.

Another option would be using some of the smaller Kinetik batteries (www.kinetikaudio.com) I've used four of the HC600 in my 1994 honda accord because I had no room. I hid all 4 of them in the fenders of the car after getting inspiration from a friend of mine and what he did with one of his customer's rides. (Click on the pictures for a link to the SUV).

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Now my shit was ghetto rigged because I have very little metal fabrication skills, but you get the idea. What I did was piece together some metal I had laying around with JB Weld to create small brackets that I could use in the fenders. The HC600 was small enough to where I could get them inside with no problems (2 on each side). Odyssey batteries (www.odysseybatteries.com) makes some really small ones too. They make the batteries for Stinger, and Scosche so you might be able to find some local deals on them.

Lastly what size wire are you using?
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[QUOTE=DriftGirl;84927]anyone heard of or use these?  I went overboard with my stereo and I need sum serious help supporting the amps.  
 
oh, no room for another full sized battery. :sad:[/QUOTE]

[url]www.batcap.net[/url]

Do the big 3, but I don't think it'll make that much of a difference in your situation.  If I were you I'd look into either a High Output alternator.  [url]www.ohiogen.com[/url] or Iraggi could probably get you going.  You can also check your local alternator rebuild shops to see how much they will re-wind your factory alternator.

In my experience Ohio Generators normally builds plug and play alternators while Iraggi will use a GM-style alternator and have the housing modified to fit your vehicle.  They aren't plug and play, but Dominick @ Iraggi should be able to tell you what wires go to what.  

Another option would be using some of the smaller Kinetik batteries [URL="www.kinetikaudio.com"](www.kinetikaudio.com)[/URL] I've used four of the HC600 in my 1994 honda accord because I had no room.  I hid all 4 of them in the fenders of the car after getting inspiration from a friend of mine and what he did with one of his customer's rides. (Click on the pictures for a link to the SUV).

[URL="http://www.innovativeride.com/g13.htm"][IMG]http://www.innovativeride.com/_images/Ford_excursion/a_excursion_005.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[URL="http://www.innovativeride.com/g13.htm"][IMG]http://www.innovativeride.com/_images/Ford_excursion/a_excursion_007.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Now my shit was ghetto rigged because I have very little metal fabrication skills, but you get the idea.  What I did was piece together some metal I had laying around with JB Weld to create small brackets that I could use in the fenders.  The HC600 was small enough to where I could get them inside with no problems (2 on each side).  Odyssey batteries [URL="http://www.odysseybatteries.com/"](www.odysseybatteries.com)[/URL] makes some really small ones too.  They make the batteries for Stinger, and Scosche so you might be able to find some local deals on them.

Lastly what size wire are you using?
DriftGirlAugust 31, 2007
#85190
CooL!!

I will send those guys an email in regards to my ALT being rebuilt. The local place here closed up shop a year or two ago :sad:

To my surprise BATCAP emailed me back in regards to my 'situation'. They suggested their model 800's or multiple #400's I guess I'll mock up a couple out of cardboard and see where I can fit em. :biggthumpup:

------------------------BATCAP-----------------------------------------------

Emerald,
Thank-you for your interest in our products. I would
recoment our model
800. The dimensions are 6 1/2" x 7 1/2" x 3" and the
weigh 14 lbs. These
can be mounted in any position You may even lay them
flat under your seat.
If the model 800 is too large I would get multiples of
our model 400. The
dimensions are 3.14" x 3.7." x 5.44" and weigh 5 lbs.
If I can be of further assistance
please let me know.
Sincerely,
Ray McKenzie

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I also checked out the other sites u listed and will compare the specs of those 'power cells' when I get home later today. I think they list the sizes as well.


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CooL!! 
 
I will send those guys an email in regards to my ALT being rebuilt. The local place here closed up shop a year or two ago :sad: 
 
To my surprise BATCAP emailed me back in regards to my 'situation'. They suggested their model 800's or multiple #400's I guess I'll mock up a couple out of cardboard and see where I can fit em. :biggthumpup: 
 
------------------------BATCAP-----------------------------------------------
 
[SIZE=2][COLOR=lime]Emerald,
Thank-you for your interest in our products. I would
 recoment our model
800. The dimensions are 6 1/2" x 7 1/2" x 3" and the
 weigh 14 lbs. These
can be mounted in any position You may even lay them
 flat under your seat.
If the model 800 is too large I would get multiples of
 our model 400. The
dimensions are 3.14" x 3.7." x 5.44" and weigh 5 lbs.
  If I can be of further assistance
 please let me know.
Sincerely,
Ray McKenzie
[/COLOR][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2][COLOR=#00ff00]-------------------------------------------------------------------------[/COLOR][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2][COLOR=#00ff00][/COLOR][/SIZE] 
[SIZE=2]I also checked out the other sites u listed and will compare the specs of those 'power cells' when I get home later today. I think they list the sizes as well. 

 
[/SIZE]
DriftGirlAugust 31, 2007
#85193
Thats a pretty sick install! your guy at innovativeride.com kiscks ass :runcoold:
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Thats a pretty sick install! your guy at innovativeride.com kiscks ass :runcoold:
PseudonymAugust 31, 2007
#85245
i didnt realize u were trying to run that much power. even the big 3+ bigger battery most likely wont help. youre either gonna need dedicated batterys for the setup (batcaps or smaller batterys) or the best route would be the higher output alternator, but those tend to be hit or miss. ive heard alot of horror stories about these HO alts and the various companies.
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i didnt realize u were trying to run that much power.  even the big 3+ bigger battery most likely wont help.  youre either gonna need dedicated batterys for the setup (batcaps or smaller batterys) or the best route would be the higher output alternator, but those tend to be hit or miss.  ive heard alot of horror stories about these HO alts and the various companies.
NisAznMonkSeptember 3, 2007
#85820
Pseudonym;85245 wrote:i didnt realize u were trying to run that much power. even the big 3+ bigger battery most likely wont help. youre either gonna need dedicated batterys for the setup (batcaps or smaller batterys) or the best route would be the higher output alternator, but those tend to be hit or miss. ive heard alot of horror stories about these HO alts and the various companies.


Same here...but they always say bad news travels faster than good news. I currently run 3 alternators in 2 vehicles...(an Iraggi unit in my Tacoma, and a pair of Ohio Generators in my 89 GMC). No problems from either one, and there are plenty that I know of who run MUCH bigger setups with zero problems. For those that do have problems we'll never know the entire truth. I feel like I'm talking about an episode of X-Files or something so I'll stop :pat:
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[QUOTE=Pseudonym;85245]i didnt realize u were trying to run that much power.  even the big 3+ bigger battery most likely wont help.  youre either gonna need dedicated batterys for the setup (batcaps or smaller batterys) or the best route would be the higher output alternator, but those tend to be hit or miss.  ive heard alot of horror stories about these HO alts and the various companies.[/QUOTE]

Same here...but they always say bad news travels faster than good news.  I currently run 3 alternators in 2 vehicles...(an Iraggi unit in my Tacoma, and a pair of Ohio Generators in my 89 GMC).  No problems from either one, and there are plenty that I know of who run MUCH bigger setups with zero problems.  For those that do have problems we'll never know the entire truth.  I feel like I'm talking about an episode of X-Files or something so I'll stop :pat: