what breaks the most on air setups?

what breaks most often or is susceptible to breaking on air ride? lines? compressors?

i think it's the compressors because they're constantly going on and off and they heat up real fast. my viar compressors only come with a 1 yr. manufacture warranty.

COMPRESSORS!

so it would be a good idea to have an extra one laying around huh

what about bags..I hear they blow out  alot especially in warmer climates????

oh, id also like to ask if 4awg wire is good enough for a compressor + small amp & 10in sub. or should i upgrade to 0/1awg

So is there any merit to replacing the compressors with some OEM compressors from a factory-airbagged car? The compressor in my Cima was still going strong after 15yrs... even though the bags were prone to popping!

[QUOTE=HoeBag;89579]oh, id also like to ask if 4awg wire is good enough for a compressor + small amp & 10in sub. or should i upgrade to 0/1awg[/QUOTE]

I would run it Separate because i seen some people that has them run together and it would draw watts away from the amps and sometimes mess with the sound.  We usually have the power for the compressor ran away from any of the Audio.  I know its more wires to run but at least its more secure.

[QUOTE=Dominik;89581]So is there any merit to replacing the compressors with some OEM compressors from a factory-airbagged car? The compressor in my Cima was still going strong after 15yrs... even though the bags were prone to popping![/QUOTE]


There is a way to actually rewire the factory one on some cars.  Not to familiar with Cimas stock compressor but im sure its possible because anything is possible just may take more time and money to get it done but it can happen.

[quote=AFLS430;89582]I would run it Separate because i seen some people that has them run together and it would draw watts away from the amps and sometimes mess with the sound.  We usually have the power for the compressor ran away from any of the Audio.  I know its more wires to run but at least its more secure.[/quote]

oh ok. so would a 4awg strictly for the compressor be ok?

[QUOTE=HoeBag;89589]oh ok. so would a 4awg strictly for the compressor be ok?[/QUOTE]

Yah that should be way more then enough to we us a 12awg wire for the little firestones.

what breaks the most on air setups?
 
Necks.

[QUOTE=KickEachVerse;89605]what breaks the most on air setups?
 
Necks.[/QUOTE]

:gtfou:

just kiddin but ur dumb =)

[quote=AFLS430;89585]There is a way to actually rewire the factory one on some cars. Not to familiar with Cimas stock compressor but im sure its possible because anything is possible just may take more time and money to get it done but it can happen.[/quote]
 
 
do you know if there is a way to rewire the stock one on my ls430 to make it go faster?  It takes quite a bit of time for me to lower and raise my car with my datasystem controller.

[QUOTE=RaCinStylez;89613]do you know if there is a way to rewire the stock one on my ls430 to make it go faster?  It takes quite a bit of time for me to lower and raise my car with my datasystem controller.[/QUOTE]

It wont be able to go any faster because thats what the compressor is rated at.  I wish i could because i could make so much money making them for LS's with stock airride because alot of people came to us about that.

It all really depends on the stuff you buy. I had my compressor for about 5+yrs now and still running strong. I would say if you are running cylinder then those give out most. They last about 2+yrs depending on how you drive and the road condition. and valves would be next on the list if its some cheap ones.

valves. Sucks when they sound like a damn duck. :dance:

WALLETS??? :smiley-rofl:

I'd say bags and compressors...it's a toss up.

[QUOTE=zion_97;89578]what about bags..I hear they blow out  alot especially in warmer climates????[/QUOTE]

Did not see this post earlier, lol...

The culprit is probably the heat making the air expand. When fully inflated the heat will expand the air and possibly the bag will blow, thats the theory. Combine that with the worn rubber and there is a greater blowout rate.


personally, bags just blow because they are worn.

havent bagged my lexus yet but coming from a sport truck scene the fitting i used tended to break more so than my bags, or compressors. at first when i bagged my truck i used the plastic fittings the kit came with. it was cool at first but over time they would crack, and leak air. one of them blew out the plastic push/lock out in front of my house, as i got home, at 2am.... that really sucked. 

i'd put fittings first. next i'd say compressors. they all have a duty cycle. say a compressor with a 100% duty cycle means it can stay on as long as you like. one that says 33% duty cycle means say for every 1min your compressor runs, it needs 3mins to cool down. and so on.... compressors crap out from misuse, incorrect gauge wiring used, and people trying to get it to pump out more psi than its rating.

next id say bags. bellow bags usually have a life expectancy of about 1,000,000 cycles, up/down as one. well that at least for the bags i use. bellow bags expand up, not out. sleeve bags inflate up and out meaning if it rubs on something enough itll blow. usually sleeve bags are used in the rear of vehicles where its lighter than the front cuz there is no engine, bellows are used in the fronts cuz they are built tougher and can support the weight of the engine. again bags blow from misuse. going over the max psi rating, improper installation, rubbing against something, over extending the bags would probably be one most would encounter. like for UAS, its just a bag that slips over a strut. what happens if your fully inflated and angle up a driveway? one of the rear tires is gonna come up off the ground. probably wont happen at first but itll blow from over extending it. i blew a bag rated at 250psi with only 175psi in it from over extending it...

just my experiences/opinion....

[QUOTE=RaCinStylez;89613]do you know if there is a way to rewire the stock one on my ls430 to make it go faster?  It takes quite a bit of time for me to lower and raise my car with my datasystem controller.[/QUOTE]

You could always add air management to your stock struts.

[quote=Lexbubba;90398]You could always add air management to your stock struts.[/quote]

that would be the best, would run you about $1000-$1500 for a cheap set up. but would be way faster than the stock air management with a controller....

[quote=Lexbubba;90398]You could always add air management to your stock struts.[/quote]
 
 
please explain...

[quote=AFLS430;89582]I would run it Separate because i seen some people that has them run together and it would draw watts away from the amps and sometimes mess with the sound.  We usually have the power for the compressor ran away from any of the Audio.  I know its more wires to run but at least its more secure.[/quote]
yep
my audio guy back home said that whent he compressor is running it will degrade the sound of your stereo

He said to run 2 4gauge wires, instead of a 1 or 0 gauge for sure

[QUOTE=RaCinStylez;90415]please explain...[/QUOTE]

[img]http://www.fbirides.com/assets/files/product_images/265385.jpg[/img]

Something like this. 

you would be adding an aftermarket tank, compressor, and valves and run plumbing and adapt that to your stock air struts. This will give you faster up/down times. You will have air at a touch of a switch instead of waiting for the lil compressor to pump air to get the car up.

[quote=Lexbubba;90424][IMG]http://www.fbirides.com/assets/files/product_images/265385.jpg[/IMG]
 
Something like this. 
 
you would be adding an aftermarket tank, compressor, and valves and run plumbing and adapt that to your stock air struts. This will give you faster up/down times. You will have air at a touch of a switch instead of waiting for the lil compressor to pump air to get the car up.[/quote]
 
ahh i c,
 
Basically I would have my stock air struts, but with aftermarket everything else.  Then I would have no use for my datasystem controller....  My concern is if the stock air struts would take an air management system.  Do you know anyone that has done this, or at least tried it?

for my Car I would say I have to say  Solenoids ...  


those break the most on my car ... I have 2  older Model ford Starter solenoids ...

with bags you can avoid f-ing up your bags by letting out the pressure once you jack your car up, relieving pressure and preventing hyperextension of the bag which might pull the crimp if you got those kinda bags.  other than that, if nothing rubs/touches the bag it should be fine.  

compressors are reliable depending on brand and where you mount them.  I heard some stories of a lot of Firestone compressors crapping out, I've always used Viair, but I always had to add another check valve because the one built in the steel braided line craps out.  The compressors are sealed but if you mount them under your car exposed to the elements dont expect them to last forever, especially if you dont keep the inlet filter in a dry area.  

with valves they might stick sometimes which can be avoided by keeping moisture out of the system.  running airline on the outlet side of the dump valves help keep debris out of the orifice.  when I had my truck dirt debris used to get in their and I couldnt figure out where the hell my system was leaking from.

when I first got into air suspension, I used the plastic DOT PTC (push type) fittings, they leaked on me and I never used them again, I do admit though that they are very easy to work with.  Fittings of choice for me is DOT brass compression all the way.  No worries about leaking or cracking over time.

If you use good quality parts and install it good, maybe the only thing you can worry about breaking prematurely is your ball joints and ripping some cv boots.