Thread #7686

With all that horrible modern hip-hop/rap

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JN.FYCNovember 10, 2007
#105261

With all that horrible modern hip-hop/rap

I gots to go OLD SCHOOL , :yahoo_26:a few of my favorite hits.

Warren G ft. Nate Dogg - Regulate

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fa9yV9gr71E

Mack 10 - Connected for life

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FQ2XYYGFm0s

Boo Yaa T.R.I.B.E ft Mack 10 - Bang on

http://youtube.com/watch?v=556KHm5hbgI

Dogg Pound & Mack 10 - Nothin But That Cavi

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SHCl_8d5Ru8

WC ft Snoop Dogg Nate Dogg - The Streets

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LsR9TKXY000

Dr. Dre feat. Snoop Dogg - Still D.R.E.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NENz1rEJgRk
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I gots to go OLD SCHOOL , :yahoo_26:a few of my favorite hits.

Warren G ft. Nate Dogg - Regulate

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fa9yV9gr71E[/url]

Mack 10 - Connected for life

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=FQ2XYYGFm0s[/url]

Boo Yaa T.R.I.B.E ft Mack 10 - Bang on

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=556KHm5hbgI[/url]

Dogg Pound & Mack 10 - Nothin But That Cavi

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=SHCl_8d5Ru8[/url]

WC ft Snoop Dogg Nate Dogg - The Streets

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=LsR9TKXY000[/url]

Dr. Dre feat. Snoop Dogg - Still D.R.E.

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=NENz1rEJgRk[/url]
widebody_QNovember 10, 2007
#105267
Its not that all modern rap is garbage, its just what it put on the radio is more catchy. Thats why you hear Soulja boy because you can dance to it and have a good time at a club (not saying I would do the superman dance lol) The good stuff is still underground. An east coast rapper you should look foward to is Papoose. Hes on the same Leval Nas is on. You can tell alot of thought is put into his rhymes
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Its not that all modern rap is garbage, its just what it put on the radio is more catchy.  Thats why you hear Soulja boy because you can dance to it and have a good time at a club (not saying I would do the superman dance lol)  The good stuff is still underground.  An east coast rapper you should look foward to is Papoose.  Hes on the same Leval Nas is on.  You can tell alot of thought is put into his rhymes
JN.FYCNovember 10, 2007
#105269
widebody_Q;105267 wrote:Its not that all modern rap is garbage, its just what it put on the radio is more catchy. Thats why you hear Soulja boy because you can dance to it and have a good time at a club (not saying I would do the superman dance lol) The good stuff is still underground. An east coast rapper you should look foward to is Papoose. Hes on the same Leval Nas is on. You can tell alot of thought is put into his rhymes



Ya, i get what you mean.
I listen to some East coast rap mostly Mobb Deep. I have all their albums & mix tapes.
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[quote=widebody_Q;105267]Its not that all modern rap is garbage, its just what it put on the radio is more catchy.  Thats why you hear Soulja boy because you can dance to it and have a good time at a club (not saying I would do the superman dance lol)  The good stuff is still underground.  An east coast rapper you should look foward to is Papoose.  Hes on the same Leval Nas is on.  You can tell alot of thought is put into his rhymes[/quote]


Ya, i get what you mean.
I listen to some East coast rap mostly Mobb Deep. I have all their albums & mix tapes.
PANCAKES!November 10, 2007
#105273
PApoose spits tight but I HATE HIS VOICE!!!
I like:
MF DOOM
The NEW WU-TANG Mixtape is Insane!!!!
Ghostface
Pharohe Monch (sp)
De La Soul
Talib Kweli
The New Statik Seleckta CD is FREASH!!!!!
Cassidy's freestlyes are some of the best but his cd B.A.R.S. SUCKS!!!!!!
Scarface's Album is gonna be siiiiiccccckkkk
I like TRAE for some reason!
There so many more that I can't think of right now!!!
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PApoose spits tight but I HATE HIS VOICE!!!
I like:
MF DOOM
The NEW WU-TANG Mixtape is Insane!!!!
Ghostface
Pharohe Monch (sp)
De La Soul
Talib Kweli
The New Statik Seleckta CD is FREASH!!!!!
Cassidy's freestlyes are some of the best but his cd B.A.R.S. SUCKS!!!!!!
Scarface's Album is gonna be siiiiiccccckkkk
I like TRAE for some reason!
There so many more that I can't think of right now!!!
OGNovember 11, 2007
#105427
man the mix tape game is where its at, although all of my s**t is southern (southern smoke, gangsta grillz, purple codiene). bun b, lil wayne, and ti kind of blend the line between gangsta and lyrical imo. definately f**kin with trae and z-ro (have been since guerilla mob back in the day), but that s**t will make you homicidal/suicidal. then theres staight gangster s**t like three 6 and jeezy to tear your trunk up.

some of this is probably the horrible stuff you're talkin about, but in the south thats whats up.
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man the mix tape game is where its at, although all of my s**t is southern (southern smoke, gangsta grillz, purple codiene). bun b, lil wayne, and ti kind of blend the line between gangsta and lyrical imo. definately f**kin with trae and z-ro (have been since guerilla mob back in the day), but that s**t will make you homicidal/suicidal. then theres staight gangster s**t like three 6 and jeezy to tear your trunk up.
 
some of this is probably the horrible stuff you're talkin about, but in the south thats whats up.
mzeoNovember 12, 2007
#105853
Three 6 mafia = brain damage from all that bass! Late Night Tip is a benchmark for low low bass.

Papoose is the shit. Check out Alphabetical Slaughter; that song shows his incredible lyrical talent. He is also a member of DipSet, so somtimes you'll find him with Juelz Santana, another rapper to check out for; although not as lyrically gifted. Jim Jones ("Ballin'") is also a member of DipSet... haha.

OP: "I'm gettin jacked, I'm breakin myself. I can't believe they're takin Warren's wealth."
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Three 6 mafia = brain damage from all that bass! Late Night Tip is a benchmark for low low bass.
 
Papoose is the shit. Check out Alphabetical Slaughter; that song shows his incredible lyrical talent. He is also a member of DipSet, so somtimes you'll find him with Juelz Santana, another rapper to check out for; although not as lyrically gifted. Jim Jones ("Ballin'") is also a member of DipSet... haha.
 
OP: "I'm gettin jacked, I'm breakin myself. I can't believe they're takin Warren's wealth."
eightsixgtsNovember 12, 2007
#105860
Mos Def
MF Doom
Nas
Talib Kweli
Quasimoto
Blueprint
Jemini
Dangermouse
Aesop rock
Envelope
Cannibal Ox
Mr Lif
Murz
EL-P
Alkoholics
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
Pharcyde
Heiroglyphics
Pharoahe Monch
Styles P
Masta Ace
Aceyalone
Rhymefest
Zion I
Little Brother
Atmosphere
Jedi Mind Tricks
Tribe Called Quest
De La Sol


Alllllll good shit I listen to.
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Mos Def
MF Doom
Nas
Talib Kweli
Quasimoto
Blueprint
Jemini 
Dangermouse
Aesop rock
Envelope
Cannibal Ox
Mr Lif
Murz
EL-P
Alkoholics
Del Tha Funky Homosapien
Pharcyde
Heiroglyphics
Pharoahe Monch
Styles P
Masta Ace
Aceyalone
Rhymefest
Zion I
Little Brother
Atmosphere
Jedi Mind Tricks
Tribe Called Quest
De La Sol


Alllllll good shit I listen to.
shoezNovember 12, 2007
#105876
as far as old school goes, this is critical listening:

Kid 'n Play
Ultramagnetic MC's
Tone Loc
Company Flow
Too $hort
Eric B. & Rakim
DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince
Stetsasonic

After the year 2000:

El-P
Aesop Rock
Sage Francis
Blockhead
Madvillain/MF DOOM/ Viktor Vaughn/ Danger DOOM & all of his other aliases :)
Atmosphere
RA the Ruggedman
Blackstar (Talib and Mos Def)
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as far as old school goes, this is critical listening:

Kid 'n Play
Ultramagnetic MC's
Tone Loc
Company Flow
Too $hort
Eric B. & Rakim
DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince
Stetsasonic

[u]After the year 2000:[/u]

El-P
Aesop Rock
Sage Francis
Blockhead
Madvillain/MF DOOM/ Viktor Vaughn/ Danger DOOM & all of his other aliases :)
Atmosphere
RA the Ruggedman
Blackstar (Talib and Mos Def)
CaoboyNovember 12, 2007
#105902
Andre Nikatina and Equipto rockin the bay underground....

Brother Lynch Hung if you want that deep shit that makes you want to go kill somebody...that stuff is pure hatred and messes with your emotions.

Too Short is timeless. you want ole skool, go listen to whodini, naughty by nature, etc lol.
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Andre Nikatina and Equipto rockin the bay underground.... 

Brother Lynch Hung if you want that deep shit that makes you want to go kill somebody...that stuff is pure hatred and messes with your emotions. 

Too Short is timeless. you want ole skool, go listen to whodini, naughty by nature, etc lol.
OGNovember 12, 2007
#105906
old school for me is dj screw. grey tapes = lyrical garbage (freestyles) but f**k it. old 'face, ghetto boys, ugk but not too often.
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old school for me is dj screw. grey tapes = lyrical garbage (freestyles) but f**k it. old 'face, ghetto boys, ugk but not too often.
guymx83November 13, 2007
#106118
meh im bored. i dont even think im half as old as all you guys here.....rap back then is music work knocking on a system... all this new stuff is for clubs like widebody Q said.

outkast-player's ball
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-YBFYZxu2dw

everything is watered down now these days, the good stuff are most of the lowkey stuff.
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meh im bored. i dont even think im half as old as all you guys here.....rap back then is music work knocking on a system... all this new stuff is for clubs like widebody Q said.

outkast-player's ball
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=-YBFYZxu2dw[/url]

everything is watered down now these days, the good stuff are most of the lowkey stuff.
pitchedupNovember 13, 2007
#106120
busy bee

[youtube]SQvBHWqbk7A[/youtube]
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busy bee 

[youtube]SQvBHWqbk7A[/youtube]
Yokotas13November 13, 2007
#106170
widebody_Q;105267 wrote:Its not that all modern rap is garbage, its just what it put on the radio is more catchy. Thats why you hear Soulja boy because you can dance to it and have a good time at a club (not saying I would do the superman dance lol) The good stuff is still underground. An east coast rapper you should look foward to is Papoose. Hes on the same Leval Nas is on. You can tell alot of thought is put into his rhymes


yoooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

but on the real
chamilionare and kanye are two hard ass new albums
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[quote=widebody_Q;105267]Its not that all modern rap is garbage, its just what it put on the radio is more catchy.  Thats why you hear Soulja boy because you can dance to it and have a good time at a club (not saying I would do the superman dance lol)  The good stuff is still underground.  An east coast rapper you should look foward to is Papoose.  Hes on the same Leval Nas is on.  You can tell alot of thought is put into his rhymes[/quote]

yoooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

but on the real
chamilionare and kanye are two hard ass new albums
eightsixgtsNovember 15, 2007
#106798
Wow, haven't heard the name Whodini in a LONG ass time.
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Wow, haven't heard the name Whodini in a LONG ass time.
CaoboyNovember 16, 2007
#107066
eightsixgts;106798 wrote:Wow, haven't heard the name Whodini in a LONG ass time.


LOL i've been listening to them again at work. good ole im a ho, and five minutes of funk haah.

also started listening to parliament again LOL
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[quote=eightsixgts;106798]Wow, haven't heard the name Whodini in a LONG ass time.[/quote]

LOL i've been listening to them again at work. good ole im a ho, and five minutes of funk haah. 

also started listening to parliament again LOL
ebruce2November 16, 2007
#107129
JDMpimp;105876 wrote:as far as old school goes, this is critical listening:

Kid 'n Play
Ultramagnetic MC's
Tone Loc
Company Flow
Too $hort
Eric B. & Rakim
DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince
Stetsasonic



Kid 'n Play got clowned on back in the day. :smiley-rofl:Same as Tone Loc & Jazzy Jeff featuring WIll Smith, lol. That was all the wack shit that was written for spins on the radio.

Now if you really wanna talk about must listen from back in the day.....Rakim, Short, Stet, Special Ed, Tribe Called Quest, Cypress Hill, Big daddy Kane, Pete Rock& C.L. Smooth, Del tha funky homosapien, B.D.P., De La Soul, Ice Cube, NWA, EPMD, Ice T, Public Enemy, and countless others that don't come to mind right now.......no radio play for those cats back in the day, trust me. You would be lucky to catch a BET or Yo! MTV Raps video, but thats about it.
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[quote=JDMpimp;105876]as far as old school goes, this is critical listening:

Kid 'n Play
Ultramagnetic MC's
Tone Loc
Company Flow
Too $hort
Eric B. & Rakim
DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince
Stetsasonic

[/quote]

Kid 'n Play got clowned on back in the day. :smiley-rofl:Same as Tone Loc & Jazzy Jeff featuring WIll Smith, lol. That was all the wack shit that was written for spins on the radio.

Now if you really wanna talk about must listen from back in the day.....Rakim, Short, Stet, Special Ed, Tribe Called Quest, Cypress Hill, Big daddy Kane, Pete Rock& C.L. Smooth, Del tha funky homosapien, B.D.P., De La Soul, Ice Cube, NWA, EPMD, Ice T, Public Enemy, and countless others that don't come to mind right now.......no radio play for those cats back in the day, trust me.  You would be lucky to catch a BET or Yo! MTV Raps video, but thats about it.
menappiNovember 18, 2007
#107344
It's all about the 36 chambers!
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It's all about the 36 chambers!
00scottyNovember 20, 2007
#107838
im surprised i haven't seen common on anybody's list.

but seriously we know whats hip hop and whats rap. and i mostly like east coast (NY) artist and midwest.

common
talib kweli
black dante(mos def)
little brother
ninth wonder
lupe fiasco
papoose
jadakiss

not too many west coast artist, even though i like crip walking, sorry
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im surprised i haven't seen common on anybody's list.
 
but seriously we know whats hip hop and whats rap. and i mostly like east coast (NY) artist and midwest. 
 
common
talib kweli
black dante(mos def)
little brother
ninth wonder
lupe fiasco
papoose
jadakiss
 
not too many west coast artist, even though i like crip walking, sorry
PANCAKES!November 20, 2007
#107853
ricky cash;107838 wrote:im surprised i haven't seen common on anybody's list.

but seriously we know whats hip hop and whats rap. and i mostly like east coast (NY) artist and midwest.

common
talib kweli
black dante(mos def)
little brother
ninth wonder
lupe fiasco
papoose
jadakiss

not too many west coast artist, even though i like crip walking, sorry


Yo me and you could kick it it!
That's all the shit I like!
ANd you a fan of the boondocks!!! that's wasssuppp!!!

NEW BOONDOCKS Tonight @ 11pm on Cartoon Network! :biggthumpup: :runcoold: :dance:
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[quote=ricky cash;107838]im surprised i haven't seen common on anybody's list.
 
but seriously we know whats hip hop and whats rap. and i mostly like east coast (NY) artist and midwest. 
 
common
talib kweli
black dante(mos def)
little brother
ninth wonder
lupe fiasco
papoose
jadakiss
 
not too many west coast artist, even though i like crip walking, sorry[/quote]
 
Yo me and you could kick it it!
That's all the shit I like!
ANd you a fan of the boondocks!!! that's wasssuppp!!!
 
NEW BOONDOCKS Tonight @ 11pm on Cartoon Network! :biggthumpup:  :runcoold: :dance:
00scottyNovember 20, 2007
#107863
hell yea, riley is cool, but i keep forgetting to watch it. teaches a lot about todays society esp. whats accepted. can't believe i found all of that in a cartoon and dave chappelle :D.

im really into HIP HOP and the further i go back to more i wish i was older to appreciate it more.

edit: NAS
Fugees
Blackstar

Michael Jackson

also lots of r&b and 60's, 70's and 80's music that i am too young to remember
shoot matter of fact im listening to maze ft. franki beverly - happy feelings and common mixtape - time traveling. i can't stand to listen to whats on the radio, soulja boy lil boosie, seriously its just god awful
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hell yea, riley is cool, but i keep forgetting to watch it. teaches a lot about todays society esp. whats accepted. can't believe i found all of that in a cartoon and dave chappelle :D.
 
im really into HIP HOP and the further i go back to more i wish i was older to appreciate it more.
 
edit: NAS
Fugees
Blackstar
 
Michael Jackson
 
also lots of r&b and 60's, 70's and 80's music that i am too young to remember
shoot matter of fact im listening to maze ft. franki beverly - happy feelings and common mixtape - time traveling. i can't stand to listen to whats on the radio, soulja boy lil boosie, seriously its just god awful
guymx83November 20, 2007
#107942
^^what he said. i wish i was older to experience the upcoming the the oldskool hip hop.
some stuff im listening to right now...

paperboy-ditty
http://youtube.com/watch?v=N58TYv7Vt3A&feature=related

- bumpin
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ha6Zs42--3U&feature=related

ahmad - back in the day
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zaUJ0cnOvZs
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^^what he said. i wish i was older to experience the upcoming the the oldskool hip hop.
some stuff im listening to right now...

paperboy-ditty
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=N58TYv7Vt3A&feature=related[/url]

- bumpin
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ha6Zs42--3U&feature=related[/url]

ahmad - back in the day
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=zaUJ0cnOvZs[/url]
00scottyNovember 20, 2007
#107991
ahmad back in the day is one of my youtube classics i liked it since i first heard it when i was nine, and it came out even way b4 that go figure
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ahmad back in the day is one of my youtube classics i liked it since i first heard it when i was nine, and it came out even way b4 that go figure
ebruce2November 20, 2007
#108114
ricky cash;107838 wrote:im surprised i haven't seen common on anybody's list.

but seriously we know whats hip hop and whats rap. and i mostly like east coast (NY) artist and midwest.

common
talib kweli
black dante(mos def)
little brother
ninth wonder
lupe fiasco
papoose
jadakiss

not too many west coast artist, even though i like crip walking, sorry


I dont see any old-school artists in this list and I wouldnt put Common in that category either. That was the focus of this thread from what I could tell.
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[quote=ricky cash;107838]im surprised i haven't seen common on anybody's list.
 
but seriously we know whats hip hop and whats rap. and i mostly like east coast (NY) artist and midwest. 
 
common
talib kweli
black dante(mos def)
little brother
ninth wonder
lupe fiasco
papoose
jadakiss
 
not too many west coast artist, even though i like crip walking, sorry[/quote]

I dont see any old-school artists in this list and I wouldnt put Common in that category either. That was the focus of this thread from what I could tell.
PANCAKES!November 21, 2007
#108125
Who cares! And Common and some of those other cats go back!
Old school to me!

Also adding:
Big Daddy Kane <------ He's a beast!!!
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Who cares! And Common and some of those other cats go back!
Old school to me!
 
Also adding:
Big Daddy Kane <------ He's a beast!!!
ebruce2November 21, 2007
#108130
PANCAKES!;108125 wrote:Who cares! And Common and some of those other cats go back!
Old school to me!

Also adding:
Big Daddy Kane <------ He's a beast!!!


Heh heh, IMO "going back" means late 70's to early 90's artists, soooooo, maybe common could squeeze in there somewhere.:smiley:

Now as far as Big Daddy Kane goes.......you TOOOOO slow, mang! Check my list a few posts back :hsugh5:

"Anything goes when it comes to hoes, you know pimpin ain't easy".....hahaha
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[quote=PANCAKES!;108125]Who cares! And Common and some of those other cats go back!
Old school to me!
 
Also adding:
Big Daddy Kane <------ He's a beast!!![/quote]

Heh heh, IMO "going back" means late 70's to early 90's artists, soooooo, maybe common could squeeze in there somewhere.:smiley: 

Now as far as Big Daddy Kane goes.......you TOOOOO slow, mang! Check my list a few posts back :hsugh5:

"Anything goes when it comes to hoes, you know pimpin ain't easy".....hahaha
PANCAKES!November 21, 2007
#108155
ebruce2;108130 wrote:Heh heh, IMO "going back" means late 70's to early 90's artists, soooooo, maybe common could squeeze in there somewhere.:smiley:

Now as far as Big Daddy Kane goes.......you TOOOOO slow, mang! Check my list a few posts back :hsugh5:

"Anything goes when it comes to hoes, you know pimpin ain't easy".....hahaha


Hahahahaha!
Tru Dat Tru Dat

My bad!!!
I was listenin to him at work when posted that! :smiley:
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[quote=ebruce2;108130]Heh heh, IMO "going back" means late 70's to early 90's artists, soooooo, maybe common could squeeze in there somewhere.:smiley: 
 
Now as far as Big Daddy Kane goes.......you TOOOOO slow, mang! Check my list a few posts back :hsugh5:
 
"Anything goes when it comes to hoes, you know pimpin ain't easy".....hahaha[/quote]
 
Hahahahaha!
Tru Dat Tru Dat
 
My bad!!!
I was listenin to him at work when posted that! :smiley:
augdoggNovember 21, 2007
#108161
Wut? No love for dem Ghetto Boys? or the be boxin' trio Fat Boys? I'm still hearin' "All you can eat, for $3.99! All all you can eat.." in my head everytime i'm at the buffet. Kool Moe Dee's "How ya like me now!", can't go wrong wit these songs....can you?:shrug:
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Wut? No love for dem Ghetto Boys? or the be boxin' trio Fat Boys? I'm still hearin' "All you can eat, for $3.99! All all you can eat.." in my head everytime i'm at the buffet. Kool Moe Dee's "How ya like me now!", can't go wrong wit these songs....can you?:shrug:
ebruce2November 21, 2007
#108162
augdogg;108161 wrote:Wut? No love for dem Ghetto Boys? or the be boxin' trio Fat Boys? I'm still hearin' "All you can eat, for $3.99! All all you can eat.." in my head everytime i'm at the buffet. Kool Moe Dee's "How ya like me now!", can't go wrong wit these songs....can you?:shrug:


aww man....... how you gonna throw The Fat Boys in with the mastery of the Ghetto Boys?????:pat: Scarface and Bushwick Bill was the ish!!!
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[quote=augdogg;108161]Wut? No love for dem Ghetto Boys? or the be boxin' trio Fat Boys? I'm still hearin' "All you can eat, for $3.99! All all you can eat.." in my head everytime i'm at the buffet. Kool Moe Dee's "How ya like me now!", can't go wrong wit these songs....can you?:shrug:[/quote]

aww man....... how you gonna throw The Fat Boys in with the mastery of the Ghetto Boys?????:pat: Scarface and Bushwick Bill was the ish!!!
augdoggNovember 21, 2007
#108163
ebruce2;108162 wrote:aww man....... how you gonna throw The Fat Boys in with the mastery of the Ghetto Boys?????:pat: Scarface and Bushwick Bill was the ish!!!


I wuz just clownin' dog.....cuz i didn't see GB posted up just some of the constituants.
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[QUOTE=ebruce2;108162]aww man....... how you gonna throw The Fat Boys in with the mastery of the Ghetto Boys?????:pat: Scarface and Bushwick Bill was the ish!!![/QUOTE]

I wuz just clownin' dog.....cuz i didn't see GB posted up just some of the constituants.
guymx83November 21, 2007
#108217
this thread is worthless without links and crap !
i dig the beastie boys. i can only see old skool hiphop to be the only kinda music that should be bumpin in a car....

Beastie Boys - Pass the Mic
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iBZYBL0KYdI

Beastie Boys - Paul Revere (beats fucken dope...)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tEM3dW2oWW4&feature=related
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this thread is worthless without links and crap !
i dig the beastie boys. i can only see old skool hiphop to be the only kinda music that should be bumpin in a car.... 

Beastie Boys - Pass the Mic
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=iBZYBL0KYdI[/url]

Beastie Boys - Paul Revere (beats fucken dope...)
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=tEM3dW2oWW4&feature=related[/url]