Thread #7830

Wheel Unbalanced?

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augdoggNovember 18, 2007
#107415

Wheel Unbalanced?

So it's Sunday and shops are closed.:signdammit: After meeting up w/ the boys of SD (BTW thx for waiting for me and it was good to meet Yoplay And Kevin :biggthumpup: ) I was coming up on the 5 and noticed some vibration round 75-80mph. It wasn't a constant vibration so I thought it was the road.....Question? If your wheel is unbalanced will you have a constant vibration or will it vibrate in a ryth-m? :shrug: Ex: ------vvvv------vvvv------vvvv. I'm planning on doin' some cruzin today so i'll try another highway. It also crossed my mind that A. perhaaps my rim is a little tweaked or B. could my suspension be that sensitive to the road?
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So it's Sunday and shops are closed.:signdammit:   After meeting up w/ the boys of SD (BTW thx for waiting for me and it was good to meet Yoplay And Kevin :biggthumpup: ) I was coming up on the 5 and noticed some vibration round 75-80mph. It wasn't a constant vibration so I thought it was the road.....Question? If your wheel is unbalanced will you have a constant vibration or will it vibrate in a ryth-m? :shrug: Ex: ------vvvv------vvvv------vvvv. I'm planning on doin' some cruzin today so i'll try another highway. It also crossed my mind that A. perhaaps my rim is a little tweaked or B. could my suspension be that sensitive to the road?
MattyRattyPooNovember 18, 2007
#107431
You will start to feel some vibrations at higher speeds if a wheel isn't balanced correctly or if the wheel weights fell off. My suggestion would be to re-balance the front 2 tires. Where you located in CA?
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You will start to feel some vibrations at higher speeds if a wheel isn't balanced correctly or if the wheel weights fell off.  My suggestion would be to re-balance the front 2 tires.  Where you located in CA?
augdoggNovember 18, 2007
#107435
MattyRattyPoo;107431 wrote:You will start to feel some vibrations at higher speeds if a wheel isn't balanced correctly or if the wheel weights fell off. My suggestion would be to re-balance the front 2 tires. Where you located in CA?


Yes in Vista, got any suggestions ur know someone?
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[QUOTE=MattyRattyPoo;107431]You will start to feel some vibrations at higher speeds if a wheel isn't balanced correctly or if the wheel weights fell off.  My suggestion would be to re-balance the front 2 tires.  Where you located in CA?[/QUOTE]

Yes in Vista, got any suggestions ur know someone?
GomokatsuNovember 18, 2007
#107449
If the wheel is unbalanced it will shake continously at a given speed because all vibration is frequency transmitted through a solid. Sometimes irregualr road seurface will give an erratic vibration, but its not overly common. Suspension shouldnt cause vibration under any circumstance related to what you are describing. As far as what if any wheels to rebalance its very simple. You get a shake in the steering wheel chances are (and are pretty good) its in the front whereas if it seems to be in the lower back it will be the rear.
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If the wheel is unbalanced it will shake continously at a given speed because all vibration is frequency transmitted through a solid.  Sometimes irregualr road seurface will give an erratic vibration, but its not overly common.  Suspension shouldnt cause vibration under any circumstance related to what you are describing.  As far as what if any wheels to rebalance its very simple.  You get a shake in the steering wheel chances are (and are pretty good) its in the front whereas if it seems to be in the lower back it will be the rear.
widebody_QNovember 18, 2007
#107452
Get it balanced asap, Unbalanced stretched tires usually leads to a blowout
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Get it balanced asap, Unbalanced stretched tires usually leads to a blowout
mista808November 18, 2007
#107455
do you feel the vibrations in the steering wheel? or in the seat of your pants? you can isolate whether its the front or rear tires causing the vibration... can you see it in the steering wheel? if you can see the steering wheel moving back and forth (very small like 1/2") you might have a bubble or separated tire, but you say you only feel it at high speeds. easy solution, just get either both front, both rear, or all four rebalanced... GL....
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do you feel the vibrations in the steering wheel? or in the seat of your pants? you can isolate whether its the front or rear tires causing the vibration... can you see it in the steering wheel? if you can see the steering wheel moving back and forth (very small like 1/2") you might have a bubble or separated tire, but you say you only feel it at high speeds. easy solution, just get either both front, both rear, or all four rebalanced... GL....
augdoggNovember 19, 2007
#107587
mista808;107455 wrote:do you feel the vibrations in the steering wheel? or in the seat of your pants? you can isolate whether its the front or rear tires causing the vibration... can you see it in the steering wheel? if you can see the steering wheel moving back and forth (very small like 1/2") you might have a bubble or separated tire, but you say you only feel it at high speeds. easy solution, just get either both front, both rear, or all four rebalanced... GL....


I read that if the vibe is in the steerings it's more likly in the front, whereas if the vibs r in the seat then it's the back. they are in the seat so i'm trying the back first but may as well get all of them done. Th anks for all the info, feel free to add on knowledge and info if everythings not covered...:biggthumpup:
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[QUOTE=mista808;107455]do you feel the vibrations in the steering wheel? or in the seat of your pants? you can isolate whether its the front or rear tires causing the vibration... can you see it in the steering wheel? if you can see the steering wheel moving back and forth (very small like 1/2") you might have a bubble or separated tire, but you say you only feel it at high speeds. easy solution, just get either both front, both rear, or all four rebalanced... GL....[/QUOTE]

I read that if the vibe is in the steerings it's more likly in the front, whereas if the vibs r in the seat then it's the back. they are in the seat so i'm trying the back first but may as well get all of them done. Th anks for all the info, feel free to add on knowledge and info if everythings not covered...:biggthumpup:
DelvinNovember 19, 2007
#107622
What everyone has said is correct but I would also have one other thing checked out.....bearings. When they start to go bad they can cause noises too and when they get really bad they can cause vibrations. Is the noise rotational and does it vary with speed? One way to do a quick check on bearing noise is to get up to the speed where you start to hear the noise and shift the weight of the car side to side and see id you hear the noise coming and going. Just another suggestion.
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What everyone has said is correct but I would also have one other thing checked out.....bearings. When they start to go bad they can cause noises too and when they get really bad they can cause vibrations. Is the noise rotational and does it vary with speed? One way to do a quick check on bearing noise is to get up to the speed where you start to hear the noise and shift the weight of the car side to side and see id you hear the noise coming and going. Just another suggestion.
augdoggNovember 19, 2007
#107666
Delvin;107622 wrote:What everyone has said is correct but I would also have one other thing checked out.....bearings. When they start to go bad they can cause noises too and when they get really bad they can cause vibrations. Is the noise rotational and does it vary with speed? One way to do a quick check on bearing noise is to get up to the speed where you start to hear the noise and shift the weight of the car side to side and see id you hear the noise coming and going. Just another suggestion.


Good point. However there is no noise, just vibs in outlined pattern.
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[QUOTE=Delvin;107622]What everyone has said is correct but I would also have one other thing checked out.....bearings. When they start to go bad they can cause noises too and when they get really bad they can cause vibrations. Is the noise rotational and does it vary with speed? One way to do a quick check on bearing noise is to get up to the speed where you start to hear the noise and shift the weight of the car side to side and see id you hear the noise coming and going. Just another suggestion.[/QUOTE]

Good point. However there is no noise, just vibs in outlined pattern.
antboNovember 19, 2007
#107671
its also a GS thing. go to CL theres a lot of threadst about that topic
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its also a GS thing. go to CL theres a lot of threadst about that topic
augdoggNovember 19, 2007
#107675
antbo;107671 wrote:its also a GS thing. go to CL theres a lot of threadst about that topic


Damnit i knew i should have got an LS....:signdammit: Kddg i'll chk it out...thx Ant.
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[QUOTE=antbo;107671]its also a GS thing. go to CL theres a lot of threadst about that topic[/QUOTE]

Damnit i knew i should have got an LS....:signdammit: Kddg i'll chk it out...thx Ant.
GomokatsuNovember 19, 2007
#107715
Are your wheels hubcentric and/or do you have hubcentric adapters for them? This will cause vibration as well.
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Are your wheels hubcentric and/or do you have hubcentric adapters for them?  This will cause vibration as well.
augdoggNovember 19, 2007
#107719
Gomokatsu;107715 wrote:Are your wheels hubcentric and/or do you have hubcentric adapters for them? This will cause vibration as well.


Nope, no spacers.
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[QUOTE=Gomokatsu;107715]Are your wheels hubcentric and/or do you have hubcentric adapters for them?  This will cause vibration as well.[/QUOTE]

Nope, no spacers.
CaoboyNovember 19, 2007
#107730
start replacing everything in the front end of your car! lol, that's what a lot of CL guy's do... everything from braces to sways to lca's and UCA's, steering rack bushings, then they go to the rear and start replacing stuff back there.

it' can be pricey, but it will actually make your car handle a LOT better.

it's probably just an unbalanced wheel.
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start replacing everything in the front end of your car! lol, that's what a lot of CL guy's do... everything from braces to sways to lca's and UCA's, steering rack bushings, then they go to the rear and start replacing stuff back there. 

it' can be pricey, but it will actually make your car handle a LOT better. 

it's probably just an unbalanced wheel.
augdoggNovember 19, 2007
#107764
Caoboy;107730 wrote:start replacing everything in the front end of your car! lol, that's what a lot of CL guy's do... everything from braces to sways to lca's and UCA's, steering rack bushings, then they go to the rear and start replacing stuff back there.

it' can be pricey, but it will actually make your car handle a LOT better.

it's probably just an unbalanced wheel.


THX, but alot is already switched up (LCA, turning ecu, sway bars, poly bushings, etc.) and my GS handles pretty well.
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[QUOTE=Caoboy;107730]start replacing everything in the front end of your car! lol, that's what a lot of CL guy's do... everything from braces to sways to lca's and UCA's, steering rack bushings, then they go to the rear and start replacing stuff back there. 

it' can be pricey, but it will actually make your car handle a LOT better. 

it's probably just an unbalanced wheel.[/QUOTE]

THX, but alot is already switched up (LCA, turning ecu, sway bars, poly bushings, etc.) and my GS handles pretty well.
GomokatsuNovember 21, 2007
#108396
with aftermarket wheels unless they are hubcentric you need a hubcentric adapter (spacer was probably a misleading word thouigh thats what it does) to make sure the wheel is centered on the hub face. A dfifference of .004" is enough to cause a vibration and since wheels arent perfect and wont tend to stay lugcentric its cheap insurance to keep it where it needs to be.
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with aftermarket wheels unless they are hubcentric you need a hubcentric adapter (spacer was probably a misleading word thouigh thats what it does) to make sure the wheel is centered on the hub face.  A dfifference of .004" is enough to cause a vibration and since wheels arent perfect and wont tend to stay lugcentric its cheap insurance to keep it where it needs to be.
augdoggNovember 21, 2007
#108407
Gomokatsu;108396 wrote:with aftermarket wheels unless they are hubcentric you need a hubcentric adapter (spacer was probably a misleading word thouigh thats what it does) to make sure the wheel is centered on the hub face. A dfifference of .004" is enough to cause a vibration and since wheels arent perfect and wont tend to stay lugcentric its cheap insurance to keep it where it needs to be.


Thx i'll look into that..
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[QUOTE=Gomokatsu;108396]with aftermarket wheels unless they are hubcentric you need a hubcentric adapter (spacer was probably a misleading word thouigh thats what it does) to make sure the wheel is centered on the hub face.  A dfifference of .004" is enough to cause a vibration and since wheels arent perfect and wont tend to stay lugcentric its cheap insurance to keep it where it needs to be.[/QUOTE]

Thx i'll look into that..
Yokotas13November 22, 2007
#108494
i cant get my fronts to balance to save my life
ive been to 3 different shops, and they wont balabce, i think its my tires though
around 100kph, it shakes alot, but after that its gone
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i cant get my fronts to balance to save my life
ive been to 3 different shops, and they wont balabce, i think its my tires though
around 100kph, it shakes alot, but after that its gone
augdoggNovember 22, 2007
#108495
Yokotas13;108494 wrote:i cant get my fronts to balance to save my life
ive been to 3 different shops, and they wont balabce, i think its my tires though
around 100kph, it shakes alot, but after that its gone


Yeh after 85mph there is no vibration, just a big silver car blastin' down the highway! That or passengers sitting in the seats.
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[QUOTE=Yokotas13;108494]i cant get my fronts to balance to save my life
ive been to 3 different shops, and they wont balabce, i think its my tires though
around 100kph, it shakes alot, but after that its gone[/QUOTE]

Yeh after 85mph there is no vibration, just a big silver car blastin' down the highway! That or passengers sitting in the seats.
Yokotas13November 22, 2007
#108563
basically
its rather annoying though
i think it has to do with some other things, but they would be nonexistnat on your car, since im sure you have the suspensino thats meant to be on there
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basically
its rather annoying though
i think it has to do with some other things, but they would be nonexistnat on your car, since im sure you have the suspensino thats meant to be on there
augdoggNovember 22, 2007
#108580
Yokotas13;108563 wrote:basically
its rather annoying though
i think it has to do with some other things, but they would be nonexistnat on your car, since im sure you have the suspensino thats meant to be on there


Yup, no frankinsteinin goin on under there.. :shrug:
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[QUOTE=Yokotas13;108563]basically
its rather annoying though
i think it has to do with some other things, but they would be nonexistnat on your car, since im sure you have the suspensino thats meant to be on there[/QUOTE]

Yup, no frankinsteinin goin on under there.. :shrug:
Yokotas13November 22, 2007
#108581
lol, yeah im still waiting on some stuff to redo a few parts i had to rush
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lol, yeah im still waiting on some stuff to redo a few parts i had to rush
augdoggNovember 22, 2007
#108582
I know this is off topic but so what it's my thread...what size tirs are you running?coilovers/air? my front is as low as my co's will go but the back can come down more, what do yo know bout crv bloks?
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I know this is off topic but so what it's my thread...what size tirs are you running?coilovers/air? my front is as low as my co's will go but the back can come down more, what do yo know bout crv bloks?
nizzan4u2nvNovember 25, 2007
#109149
augdogg;107675 wrote:Damnit i knew i should have got an LS....:signdammit: Kddg i'll chk it out...thx Ant.


LS are just as bad if not worse. People on CL recommend using a hunter roadforce balancer when balancing your wheels. I had discount tire use a cheap machine once, and right when I got on the freeway it felt like my car was gonna fall apart from the vibration, or that my tires were flat. After having them balanced on a road force it was perfect, better then the car has ever been.
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[quote=augdogg;107675]Damnit i knew i should have got an LS....:signdammit: Kddg i'll chk it out...thx Ant.[/quote]
 
LS are just as bad if not worse. People on CL recommend using a hunter roadforce balancer when balancing your wheels. I had discount tire use a cheap machine once, and right when I got on the freeway it felt like my car was gonna fall apart from the vibration, or that my tires were flat. After having them balanced on a road force it was perfect, better then the car has ever been.
augdoggNovember 25, 2007
#109158

Thx everyone!!!

Yea! I got a hook up for balancing! So I got it balance an had a hubcentric ring (thx for the recommendation) installed for the grand total of nada. My ride feels sooo smooth and the vibration is practically unnoticable. FYI I know it was a mistake and i will NEVER do it again, but I had previously purchased my tires at EVANS TIRES = BIG MISTAKE!!! Not only did they scratch my rear lip, they neglected to balance my wheels and evenso neglected to tell me. BUYERS BEWARE!!! or you may fall victim to the same. After contacting them in this regard (retail and corporate levels) they denied my claims and blew me off..
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Yea! I got a hook up for balancing! So I got it balance an had a hubcentric ring (thx for the recommendation) installed for the grand total of nada. My ride feels sooo smooth and the vibration is practically unnoticable. FYI I know it was a mistake and i will NEVER do it again, but I had previously purchased my tires at EVANS TIRES = BIG MISTAKE!!! Not only did they scratch my rear lip, they neglected to balance my wheels and evenso neglected to tell me. BUYERS BEWARE!!! or you may fall victim to the same. After contacting them in this regard (retail and corporate levels) they denied my claims and blew me off..
DEENovember 25, 2007
#109266
When I changed out my rotors it took care of a slight vibration I had.
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When I changed out my rotors it took care of a slight vibration I had.
Yokotas13November 25, 2007
#109289
augdogg;108582 wrote:I know this is off topic but so what it's my thread...what size tirs are you running?coilovers/air? my front is as low as my co's will go but the back can come down more, what do yo know bout crv bloks?

im running pirelli scorpions (free)225/35/19
S13 lca, knuckle, hub, and CST Boyz s13 suspension

i can put my car into the ground if i wanted to
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[quote=augdogg;108582]I know this is off topic but so what it's my thread...what size tirs are you running?coilovers/air? my front is as low as my co's will go but the back can come down more, what do yo know bout crv bloks?[/quote]
im running pirelli scorpions (free)225/35/19
S13 lca, knuckle, hub, and CST Boyz s13 suspension

i can put my car into the ground if i wanted to