Thread #7854

Spacer safety question

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widebody_QNovember 19, 2007
#107738

Spacer safety question

Is it safer to double stack spacers then to run one huge one? Whats the largest I can go while
keeping it safe? When I say big I mean 60mm -70mm.

I want to run some winter/beater wheels while I get my wheels refinished but I
dont want to have a sunken battleship fitment. Thanks
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Is it safer to double stack spacers then to run one huge one? Whats the largest I can go while 
keeping it safe? When I say big I mean 60mm -70mm. 
 
I want to run some winter/beater wheels while I get my wheels refinished but I 
dont want to have a sunken battleship fitment. Thanks
CaoboyNovember 19, 2007
#107744
IMO i wouldn't go anything larger than a 25mm spacer....you are putting a lot of stress on your studs using that big of a spacer. even with them sandwiched, i don't know how safe that would be.
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IMO i wouldn't go anything larger than a 25mm spacer....you are putting a lot of stress on your studs using that big of a spacer. even with them sandwiched, i don't know how safe that would be.
widebody_QNovember 19, 2007
#107749
Thats what I figured but I love the way these wheels look :(
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Thats what I figured but I love the way these wheels look :(
XCELMotorsportsNovember 19, 2007
#107759
The safest way i can think of is to get extended studs and a one piece spacer.

Stacking dosnt sound so safe.
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The safest way i can think of is to get extended studs and a one piece spacer.

Stacking dosnt sound so safe.
widebody_QNovember 19, 2007
#107765
Wouldnt longer studs have a better chance of snapping? Try snapping a pencil. Now try snapping the remaining half of the pencil. Harder isnt it? I could be wrong but thats my opinion
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Wouldnt longer studs have a better chance of snapping?  Try snapping a pencil.  Now try snapping the remaining half of the pencil.  Harder isnt it?  I could be wrong but thats my opinion
firelizardNovember 19, 2007
#107771
Hub centric spacers are a must....in case you were looking at something not hubcentric..
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Hub centric spacers are a must....in case you were looking at something not hubcentric..
TransformCelsiorNovember 19, 2007
#107779
I wouldn't go more than one inch thick (25-30mm).

But ebay sells some 2 inch thick adapter spacers for jeeps and trucks, so I'm not sure what the safe range would be.
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I wouldn't go more than one inch thick (25-30mm).

But ebay sells some 2 inch thick adapter spacers for jeeps and trucks, so I'm not sure what the safe range would be.
GrantNovember 19, 2007
#107790
I know 240sx guys that run 2" spacers (roughly 50mm) and others that have drifted consistantly on double stacked 30mm spacers (60mm)... now those cars weigh less than your car but I'm guessing the strain of drifting adds in for something... take that as you will.

Also, ebay sells 2"+ spacers for older 911's to run the new style wheels. If it's good enough for a porsche...
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I know 240sx guys that run 2" spacers (roughly 50mm) and others that have drifted consistantly on double stacked 30mm spacers (60mm)... now those cars weigh less than your car but I'm guessing the strain of drifting adds in for something... take that as you will. 

Also, ebay sells 2"+ spacers for older 911's to run the new style wheels. If it's good enough for a porsche...
widebody_QNovember 20, 2007
#107798
gmckey;107790 wrote:I know 240sx guys that run 2" spacers (roughly 50mm) and others that have drifted consistantly on double stacked 30mm spacers (60mm)... now those cars weigh less than your car but I'm guessing the strain of drifting adds in for something... take that as you will.

Also, ebay sells 2"+ spacers for older 911's to run the new style wheels. If it's good enough for a porsche...



Thanks for the advice. I see what your saying but at the same time, just because they make it doesnt mean its safe especially on such a heavy car. Well im not going to be racing with them on and they will only be on for a few months. I think I should be fine. I will go with double stacked 30mm spacers so I can sell them after words. Thanks once again for all the info
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[quote=gmckey;107790]I know 240sx guys that run 2" spacers (roughly 50mm) and others that have drifted consistantly on double stacked 30mm spacers (60mm)... now those cars weigh less than your car but I'm guessing the strain of drifting adds in for something... take that as you will. 
 
Also, ebay sells 2"+ spacers for older 911's to run the new style wheels. If it's good enough for a porsche...[/quote]
 
 
Thanks for the advice. I see what your saying but at the same time, just because they make it doesnt mean its safe especially on such a heavy car. Well im not going to be racing with them on and they will only be on for a few months. I think I should be fine.  I will go with double stacked 30mm spacers so I can sell them after words. Thanks once again for all the info
lash56November 20, 2007
#107799
i actually have the 2" spacers on my baja ranger... no complaints. and i jump the truck too so im assuming it would be fairly safe under normal driving conditions
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i actually have the 2" spacers on my baja ranger... no complaints. and i jump the truck too so im assuming it would be fairly safe under normal driving conditions
kreasimsNovember 20, 2007
#107804
widebody_Q;107798 wrote:Thanks for the advice. I see what your saying but at the same time, just because they make it doesnt mean its safe especially on such a heavy car. Well im not going to be racing with them on and they will only be on for a few months. I think I should be fine. I will go with double stacked 30mm spacers so I can sell them after words. Thanks once again for all the info


Don't drive fast on 30 mm stacked spacers bro...
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[quote=widebody_Q;107798]Thanks for the advice. I see what your saying but at the same time, just because they make it doesnt mean its safe especially on such a heavy car. Well im not going to be racing with them on and they will only be on for a few months. I think I should be fine.  I will go with double stacked 30mm spacers so I can sell them after words. Thanks once again for all the info[/quote]

Don't drive fast on 30 mm stacked spacers bro...
antboNovember 20, 2007
#107811
just buy a beater :smiley:
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just buy a beater :smiley:
sx_drifterNovember 20, 2007
#107936
i did a full Horse Thief Mile drift event with 2 bolt on spacers on each side of my s13 out back
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i did a full Horse Thief Mile drift event with 2 bolt on spacers on each side of my s13 out back
XCELMotorsportsNovember 20, 2007
#107945
Yeah, you do have a point about the longer the weaker ect.

But you never know, most extended studs are aimed towards performace, meaning they are stronger then your stock studs.
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Yeah, you do have a point about the longer the weaker ect.

But you never know, most extended studs are aimed towards performace, meaning they are stronger then your stock studs.
CaoboyNovember 20, 2007
#107958
They may be stronger, but then again, it's the leverage that will break it. You don't need as much force to break something that's longer, as opposed to the original length. That's why using a 'breaker bar' breaks those bolts loose that you can break loose with a regular ratchet.
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They may be stronger, but then again, it's the leverage that will break it. You don't need as much force to break something that's longer, as opposed to the original length. That's why using a 'breaker bar' breaks those bolts loose that you can break loose with a regular ratchet.
DriftGirlNovember 20, 2007
#107966
antbo;107811 wrote:just buy a beater :smiley:


:biggthumpup:
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[quote=antbo;107811]just buy a beater :smiley:[/quote]
 
:biggthumpup:
widebody_QNovember 21, 2007
#108174
antbo;107811 wrote:just buy a beater :smiley:


I thought about it and was really close to getting one but I would wind up trying to fit some negative offset wheels on it then I would ask u guys if my beater is VIP or not :smiley-rofl:
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[quote=antbo;107811]just buy a beater :smiley:[/quote]
 
I thought about it and was really close to getting one but I would wind up trying to fit some negative offset wheels on it then I would ask u guys if my beater is VIP or not :smiley-rofl:
CaoboyNovember 21, 2007
#108175
At the norcal meet this weekend there was an integra, with some rotas that were either 15 or 16x8 +10 offset wheels. It was flush lol, very good fitment. You could do it!
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At the norcal meet this weekend there was an integra, with some rotas that were either 15 or 16x8 +10 offset wheels. It was flush lol, very good fitment. You could do it!
widebody_QNovember 21, 2007
#108193
In NY a integra wouldnt last a week on the streets with those wheels. I already had a 95 civic coupe stolen
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In NY a integra wouldnt last a week on the streets with those wheels.  I already had a 95 civic coupe stolen
XCELMotorsportsNovember 21, 2007
#108248
I give props to anyone that puts - offset dish wheels on a pos geo metro.

You gotta paint it jet black and tint the bitch of course.

Dont forget a hood mascot and puddle lights. haha
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I give props to anyone that puts - offset dish wheels on a pos geo metro.

You gotta paint it jet black and tint the bitch of course.

Dont forget a hood mascot and puddle lights. haha
DominikNovember 21, 2007
#108304
I wish i got a pic of the spacers on the red monster q45 in Japan.

No joke, they were at least 8" long. They were tubes of steel lol
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I wish i got a pic of the spacers on the red monster q45 in Japan. 
 
No joke, they were at least 8" long. They were tubes of steel lol
widebody_QNovember 21, 2007
#108438
Dominik;108304 wrote:I wish i got a pic of the spacers on the red monster q45 in Japan.

No joke, they were at least 8" long. They were tubes of steel lol


Thats pretty crazy lol What was the design of the wheel? Full face no lip? Thats what I was aiming for
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[quote=Dominik;108304]I wish i got a pic of the spacers on the red monster q45 in Japan. 
 
No joke, they were at least 8" long. They were tubes of steel lol[/quote]
 
Thats pretty crazy lol  What was the design of the wheel?  Full face no lip?  Thats what I was aiming for
crxgamesNovember 21, 2007
#108442
Dominik;108304 wrote:I wish i got a pic of the spacers on the red monster q45 in Japan.

No joke, they were at least 8" long. They were tubes of steel lol


I have got to see some pics of that...
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[quote=Dominik;108304]I wish i got a pic of the spacers on the red monster q45 in Japan. 
 
No joke, they were at least 8" long. They were tubes of steel lol[/quote]

I have got to see some pics of that...
DominikNovember 22, 2007
#108574
Sorry! the closest pic i have is this... a few inches back and it would have been plainly obvious :(

Forum image
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Sorry! the closest pic i have is this... a few inches back and it would have been plainly obvious :(
 
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/dbloemhard/VIP/IMG_1126.jpg[/IMG]
Yokotas13November 22, 2007
#108577
Caoboy;107744 wrote:IMO i wouldn't go anything larger than a 25mm spacer....you are putting a lot of stress on your studs using that big of a spacer.

that is the dumbest shit ive ever heard!!!

becuase your LOw offset wheel, doesn't do the SAME thing
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[quote=Caoboy;107744]IMO i wouldn't go anything larger than a 25mm spacer....you are putting a lot of stress on your studs using that big of a spacer. [/quote]
that is the dumbest shit ive ever heard!!!

becuase your LOw offset wheel, doesn't do the SAME thing
CaoboyNovember 22, 2007
#108622
Didn't you just get banned for making the same types of remarks?

Anyways I'll explain my reasoning. By adding a spacer i.e. adapter, you are putting stress on the stock studs already. You add the wheel, the stock studs are stressed by the fact that the wheel and all the force it exerts on the hub, aren't actually hitting the hub anymore, but the spacer. The spacer is exerting all the force it's taking directly onto the wheel studs, rather than the hub itself. ANY imperfection on the spacer/adapter will cause the exertion of force to find it's way there (path of least resistance) and will put increased stress on that area. That's how you break studs using stacked spacers.

A low offset wheel, has a big pad on it, and the lugs nuts are still grabbing the original threads. The point of attachment doesn't change, and it's not the same as running a spacer.

This is just what I have heard, and not law. If you choose to run a humongous spacer, then go for it, I just wouldn't take the risk in running stacked spacers. That's my personal opinion.
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Didn't you just get banned for making  the same types of remarks?

Anyways I'll explain my reasoning. By adding a spacer i.e. adapter, you are putting stress on the stock studs already. You add the wheel, the stock studs are stressed by the fact that the wheel and all the force it exerts on the hub, aren't actually hitting the hub anymore, but the spacer. The spacer is exerting all the force it's taking directly onto the wheel studs, rather than the hub itself. ANY imperfection on the spacer/adapter will cause the exertion of force to find it's way there (path of least resistance) and will put increased stress on that area. That's how you break studs using stacked spacers. 

A low offset wheel, has a big pad on it, and the lugs nuts are still grabbing the original threads. The point of attachment doesn't change, and it's not the same as running a spacer. 

This is just what I have heard, and not law. If you choose to run a humongous spacer, then go for it, I just wouldn't take the risk in running stacked spacers. That's my personal opinion.
Yokotas13November 23, 2007
#108659
whatever you say boss!
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whatever you say boss!