COILOVERS VS AIR ? on gs400
Hello all I am pretty new on here I have really 2 basic questions (hope they are basic) First off I have been reading about air suspension still over all semi confused on how it all works controlling the height digitally or with switches and bags vs I dunno whatever else... anyways seemed to like these
https://www.universalairsuspension.com/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=93&osCsid=6bd5fca692bf2d47380c58387d646632 just curious if this is something where I can program the ride height by a push of a button and from what this seems like this is everythign I would need but I actually just need like shocks is this right? I can use coilover or just stock shock?
And last question I have a 240 with coilvoers already pretty harsh ride for that car 12 kg up front 10 kg in rear I didnt want that for the gs no dash rattling I am looking into some stance coilovers I believe 14/10 Just wondering anyone else who may have coilovers on this car how "rough" is it compared to other cars with coilovers is it pretty moosh ?
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Hello all I am pretty new on here I have really 2 basic questions (hope they are basic) First off I have been reading about air suspension still over all semi confused on how it all works controlling the height digitally or with switches and bags vs I dunno whatever else... anyways seemed to like these [URL]https://www.universalairsuspension.com/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=93&osCsid=6bd5fca692bf2d47380c58387d646632[/URL] just curious if this is something where I can program the ride height by a push of a button and from what this seems like this is everythign I would need but I actually just need like shocks is this right? I can use coilover or just stock shock?
And last question I have a 240 with coilvoers already pretty harsh ride for that car 12 kg up front 10 kg in rear I didnt want that for the gs no dash rattling I am looking into some stance coilovers I believe 14/10 Just wondering anyone else who may have coilovers on this car how "rough" is it compared to other cars with coilovers is it pretty moosh ?
Stance makes coils for the gs?
Idunko, but im a big fan of stance. They can be set to stiff, but at the same time, ride pretty smooth on small everyday road bumps, and handles pretty damn well on sudden sharp tuns.
I plan on getting a set for my y33 since they were the best coils ive ridden in. How ever, i realy want to test out the Powerd By MAXs. Heard alot of good things about them.
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Stance makes coils for the gs?
Idunko, but im a big fan of stance. They can be set to stiff, but at the same time, ride pretty smooth on small everyday road bumps, and handles pretty damn well on sudden sharp tuns.
I plan on getting a set for my y33 since they were the best coils ive ridden in. How ever, i realy want to test out the Powerd By MAXs. Heard alot of good things about them.
Yes, STANCE makes coilovers for the GS. They ride pretty decent from what reviews I have seen. I used to have Tein FLEX, and for the money, those rode VERY well. I was very satisfied. I think they are the best bang for your buck suspension out there, the only thing that could maybe beat it would be the STANCE, and that's only because they are a bit cheaper.
As far as air ride, UAS is a good setup. Yes, you would need to either use your stock shocks, or buy new ones. They can set you up with new ones as well, in one whole complete package.
You can use a coilover instead of a stock shock, but you will need to contact them for which applications can be used.
Hope that helps to have answered some of your questions.
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Yes, STANCE makes coilovers for the GS. They ride pretty decent from what reviews I have seen. I used to have Tein FLEX, and for the money, those rode VERY well. I was very satisfied. I think they are the best bang for your buck suspension out there, the only thing that could maybe beat it would be the STANCE, and that's only because they are a bit cheaper.
As far as air ride, UAS is a good setup. Yes, you would need to either use your stock shocks, or buy new ones. They can set you up with new ones as well, in one whole complete package.
You can use a coilover instead of a stock shock, but you will need to contact them for which applications can be used.
Hope that helps to have answered some of your questions.
get some coilover if u want handling
air if u dont care
u can adjust the air inside the car if u are lazy
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get some coilover if u want handling
air if u dont care
u can adjust the air inside the car if u are lazy
b005td;107983 wrote:get some coilover if u want handling
air if u dont care
u can adjust the air inside the car if u are lazy
What he said
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[quote=b005td;107983]get some coilover if u want handling
air if u dont care
u can adjust the air inside the car if u are lazy[/quote]
What he said
Air makes a true VIPcar.
do u see those extreme hotrod cars with "coilovers" ? hell no. It's AIR.
do u see those extreme lowrider cars with "coilovers" ? hello.. It's AIR.
VIPcars also share the same purpose (but definitely different style) as all of it is for show.
I'm just excited because I'm getting air.
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Air makes a true VIPcar.
do u see those extreme hotrod cars with "coilovers" ? hell no. It's AIR.
do u see those extreme lowrider cars with "coilovers" ? hello.. It's AIR.
VIPcars also share the same purpose (but definitely different style) as all of it is for show.
I'm just excited because I'm getting air.
Qclass;108009 wrote:Air makes a true VIPcar.
do u see those extreme hotrod cars with "coilovers" ? hell no. It's AIR.
do u see those extreme lowrider cars with "coilovers" ? hello.. It's AIR.
VIPcars also share the same purpose (but definitely different style) as all of it is for show.
I'm just excited because I'm getting air.
What? Do your research. Most hotrods run custom spring/coilover setups. Some run air.
Low Riders use hydraulics pal, not air ride.
The hardcore vip guys in japan still rock coilovers. Please research before you shout out incorrect information.
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[quote=Qclass;108009]Air makes a true VIPcar.
do u see those extreme hotrod cars with "coilovers" ? hell no. It's AIR.
do u see those extreme lowrider cars with "coilovers" ? hello.. It's AIR.
VIPcars also share the same purpose (but definitely different style) as all of it is for show.
I'm just excited because I'm getting air.[/quote]
What? Do your research. Most hotrods run custom spring/coilover setups. Some run air.
Low Riders use hydraulics pal, not air ride.
The hardcore vip guys in japan still rock coilovers. Please research before you shout out incorrect information.
very true!
:infartout:
:eek4wtf:
:werd2:
I will eventually try air...maybe on a q but 4 my gs400 it is too much fun 4 air!
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very true!
:infartout:
:eek4wtf:
:werd2:
I will eventually try air...maybe on a q but 4 my gs400 it is too much fun 4 air!
oh wow it's hydraulics not air. oh wow no kudos for me. haha.
hydraulics or air, it's the same thing.
just different way of having instant control.
Caoboy;108068 wrote:
Low Riders use hydraulics pal, not air ride.
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oh wow it's hydraulics not air. oh wow no kudos for me. haha.
hydraulics or air, it's the same thing.
just different way of having instant control.
[quote=Caoboy;108068]
Low Riders use hydraulics pal, not air ride.
[/quote]
Caoboy;108068 wrote:What? Do your research. Most hotrods run custom spring/coilover setups. Some run air.
Low Riders use hydraulics pal, not air ride.
The hardcore vip guys in japan still rock coilovers. Please research before you shout out incorrect information.
I hate to say it, but I have to agree with Caoboy.
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[QUOTE=Caoboy;108068]What? Do your research. Most hotrods run custom spring/coilover setups. Some run air.
Low Riders use hydraulics pal, not air ride.
The hardcore vip guys in japan still rock coilovers. Please research before you shout out incorrect information.[/QUOTE]
I hate to say it, but I have to agree with Caoboy.
well air sus owners will say one thing, and coilover owners will say another.
it makes no difference. The reason I'm going with air sus is because I can drive it how and when I like.
If I feel like riding comfortable...it's done with a snap of a finger.
If I feel like looking at my car slammed....done with a snap of a finger.
If I feel like cruising low....done with a snap of a finger.
but to argue about "lowriders use hydrolics not air" is pretty lame. That's like saying those are pants not slacks.
elpresidente;108112 wrote:I hate to say it, but I have to agree with Caoboy.
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well air sus owners will say one thing, and coilover owners will say another.
it makes no difference. The reason I'm going with air sus is because I can drive it how and when I like.
If I feel like riding comfortable...it's done with a snap of a finger.
If I feel like looking at my car slammed....done with a snap of a finger.
If I feel like cruising low....done with a snap of a finger.
but to argue about "lowriders use hydrolics not air" is pretty lame. That's like saying those are pants not slacks.
[quote=elpresidente;108112]I hate to say it, but I have to agree with Caoboy.[/quote]
VIPFAMILY;107933 wrote:Hello all I am pretty new on here I have really 2 basic questions (hope they are basic) First off I have been reading about air suspension still over all semi confused on how it all works controlling the height digitally or with switches and bags vs I dunno whatever else... anyways seemed to like these https://www.universalairsuspension.com/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=93&osCsid=6bd5fca692bf2d47380c58387d646632 just curious if this is something where I can program the ride height by a push of a button and from what this seems like this is everythign I would need but I actually just need like shocks is this right? I can use coilover or just stock shock?
And last question I have a 240 with coilvoers already pretty harsh ride for that car 12 kg up front 10 kg in rear I didnt want that for the gs no dash rattling I am looking into some stance coilovers I believe 14/10 Just wondering anyone else who may have coilovers on this car how "rough" is it compared to other cars with coilovers is it pretty moosh ?
punctuation is your friend :pat:
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[quote=VIPFAMILY;107933]Hello all I am pretty new on here I have really 2 basic questions (hope they are basic) First off I have been reading about air suspension still over all semi confused on how it all works controlling the height digitally or with switches and bags vs I dunno whatever else... anyways seemed to like these [URL]https://www.universalairsuspension.com/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=93&osCsid=6bd5fca692bf2d47380c58387d646632[/URL] just curious if this is something where I can program the ride height by a push of a button and from what this seems like this is everythign I would need but I actually just need like shocks is this right? I can use coilover or just stock shock?
And last question I have a 240 with coilvoers already pretty harsh ride for that car 12 kg up front 10 kg in rear I didnt want that for the gs no dash rattling I am looking into some stance coilovers I believe 14/10 Just wondering anyone else who may have coilovers on this car how "rough" is it compared to other cars with coilovers is it pretty moosh ?[/quote]
punctuation is your friend :pat:
elpresidente;108112 wrote:I hate to say it, but I have to agree with Caoboy.
+1..........I guess we need to Benji that his Y33 is not a "true VIP car" then, since he is riding on coilovers....NOT AIR, lol.:smiley-rofl: Nevermind it being featured in a major industry publication.
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[quote=elpresidente;108112]I hate to say it, but I have to agree with Caoboy.[/quote]
+1..........I guess we need to Benji that his Y33 is not a "true VIP car" then, since he is riding on coilovers....NOT AIR, lol.:smiley-rofl: Nevermind it being featured in a major industry publication.
Hey buddy, I like air because you can dump it for photos or ride lower when you want to. However, I have coilovers and they work great. C-overs will probably be more cost effective by comparison, unless you opt for all the additional suspension support goodies. Just choose the one you want and don't turn back, IMO either will do fine (providing you get good quaility set-ups).
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Hey buddy, I like air because you can dump it for photos or ride lower when you want to. However, I have coilovers and they work great. C-overs will probably be more cost effective by comparison, unless you opt for all the additional suspension support goodies. Just choose the one you want and don't turn back, IMO either will do fine (providing you get good quaility set-ups).
both coilovers or air is cool.
I was just being an ass-snob because I was getting my AIRRUNNER soon !!! whoo hoo:yahoo_6:(ok sorry overly excited)
ebruce2;108123 wrote:+1..........I guess we need to Benji that his Y33 is not a "true VIP car" then, since he is riding on coilovers....NOT AIR, lol.:smiley-rofl: Nevermind it being featured in a major industry publication.
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both coilovers or air is cool.
I was just being an ass-snob because I was getting my AIRRUNNER soon !!! whoo hoo:yahoo_6:(ok sorry overly excited)
[quote=ebruce2;108123]+1..........I guess we need to Benji that his Y33 is not a "true VIP car" then, since he is riding on coilovers....NOT AIR, lol.:smiley-rofl: Nevermind it being featured in a major industry publication.[/quote]
Thanx for all the input mainly probably gonna go with coils being much cheaper just didnt want this thing to feel like the 240 it deserves better ya know? But either way the thing is gonna be low But thanx for all the help
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Thanx for all the input mainly probably gonna go with coils being much cheaper just didnt want this thing to feel like the 240 it deserves better ya know? But either way the thing is gonna be low But thanx for all the help
Only horrible coilovers, or a race setup will give you a shitty ride. You can rock stiff coilovers, yet still have it be comfortable. Like I said, I feel that Tein FLEX will give you the best bang for your buck. Stance has had great reviews, and are a bit cheaper than the FLEX, I haven't tried them, but I might.
As for hydraulics=air? Um, hydraulics use hydro power, or fluid. Air ride is just that. AIR. Two completely different things...
Either way all will get you down low, and we have users using all three different types of setups on here.
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Only horrible coilovers, or a race setup will give you a shitty ride. You can rock stiff coilovers, yet still have it be comfortable. Like I said, I feel that Tein FLEX will give you the best bang for your buck. Stance has had great reviews, and are a bit cheaper than the FLEX, I haven't tried them, but I might.
As for hydraulics=air? Um, hydraulics use hydro power, or fluid. Air ride is just that. AIR. Two completely different things...
Either way all will get you down low, and we have users using all three different types of setups on here.
I went with Tein CS at first on my GS but I plan on going with UAS in the future. Daily driving low on coilovers is irritating, especially with people in the car.
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I went with Tein CS at first on my GS but I plan on going with UAS in the future. Daily driving low on coilovers is irritating, especially with people in the car.
Tein coilovers in my experience have been pretty garbage.. I would not use them as a "benchmark" to compare other coilovers to..
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Tein coilovers in my experience have been pretty garbage.. I would not use them as a "benchmark" to compare other coilovers to..
air on coils.
thats what im doing this week
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air on coils.
thats what im doing this week
Which would give you the most comfortable ride? I'm looking into getting a Y33 in the future, and I'm just trying to figure out if I would actually want to ride in the car after I got it looking like I want. I don't need it to handle (better than stock). I'd just like it to ride nearly as good as stock (or better). I already have my fun driving car (S13). I just want something that rides and looks nice, for going out, etc.
Sorry if this is considered a thread jack. It just seems as though the thread turned more into a coilover vs. air debate rather than what is best for the GS400...
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Which would give you the most comfortable ride? I'm looking into getting a Y33 in the future, and I'm just trying to figure out if I would actually want to ride in the car after I got it looking like I want. I don't need it to handle (better than stock). I'd just like it to ride nearly as good as stock (or better). I already have my fun driving car (S13). I just want something that rides and looks nice, for going out, etc.
Sorry if this is considered a thread jack. It just seems as though the thread turned more into a coilover vs. air debate rather than what is best for the GS400...