Thread #7871

another hid question. looking for experienced help

9 archived posts · 767 historical views

RASRX7November 20, 2007
#108046

another hid question. looking for experienced help

question for ody or honda peeps on hid kits. my stock head light is a h4. I got the xenon vision hid kit for the h4, and had to switch 2 of the wires on the harness. the original hid kit harness had the ground wire in the prong where the low beam wire goes and vice versa. So i switched the 2, and when it turns on, the high beam light on the dash lights up, but they are wokring fine. When i click the high beams on, it makes the hid dim and flutter. also its a hi low kit, hid low and regular buld for highs....Any ideas on how to correct this???
View original BBCode
question for ody or honda peeps on hid kits. my stock head light is a h4. I got the xenon vision hid kit for the h4, and had to switch 2 of the wires on the harness. the original hid kit harness had the ground wire in the prong where the low beam wire goes and vice versa. So i switched the 2, and when it turns on, the high beam light on the dash lights up, but they are wokring fine. When i click the high beams on, it makes the hid dim and flutter. also its a hi low kit, hid low and regular buld for highs....Any ideas on how to correct this???
RASRX7November 20, 2007
#108047
also before i switched the prongs, the hid wouldnt charge up, but the high beams worked fine. and now with the switch of wires, when i pull on the high beams, to flash them. it also flashes the hids...that cant be good.????
View original BBCode
also before i switched the prongs, the hid wouldnt charge up, but the high beams worked fine. and now with the switch of wires, when i pull on the high beams, to flash them. it also flashes the hids...that cant be good.????
CaoboyNovember 26, 2007
#109467
What you should do, in all honesty, is either get another HID kit with an actual motor to move the shield in and out to create a high beam low beam effect, or get a different HID kit without a high beam, but still has a shield. It's not gonna get any better than that, unless you do a retrofit.
View original BBCode
What you should do, in all honesty, is either get another HID kit with an actual motor to move the shield in and out to create a high beam low beam effect, or get a different HID kit without a high beam, but still has a shield. It's not gonna get any better than that, unless you do a retrofit.
DominikNovember 26, 2007
#109494
Sounds like the 'plug and play' harness was completely wrong. Even with your change, it is obviously still not right. H4 has 3 prongs - ground high and low. I would guess the highbeam is being grounded in the harness

Anyway, any 'plug and play' kit is dangerous, because although HIDs require less wattage than regular bulbs, at startup they suck alot of power - sometimes too much for stock wires...

Running your own relay harness would fix all the issues you have got there, and give you piece of mind knowing that you wont have an electrical fire from melted wires
View original BBCode
Sounds like the 'plug and play' harness was completely wrong. Even with your change, it is obviously still not right. H4 has 3 prongs - ground high and low. I would guess the highbeam is being grounded in the harness
 
Anyway, any 'plug and play' kit is dangerous, because although HIDs require less wattage than regular bulbs, at startup they suck alot of power - sometimes too much for stock wires...
 
Running your own relay harness would fix all the issues you have got there, and give you piece of mind knowing that you wont have an electrical fire from melted wires
xplayazplayzonxNovember 26, 2007
#109512
fo sure dominik. thats why i have been look at mobile hid kits. check them out www.mobilehid.com i believe they sell a relay harness you can buy. better safe then sorry :p.
View original BBCode
fo sure dominik. thats why i have been look at mobile hid kits. check them out [url]www.mobilehid.com[/url] i believe they sell a relay harness you can buy. better safe then sorry :p.
CaoboyNovember 26, 2007
#109578
xenondepot.com sells the HID kits with relay harnesses. they are good kits, i can attest to their quality.
View original BBCode
xenondepot.com sells the HID kits with relay harnesses. they are good kits, i can attest to their quality.
DominikNovember 26, 2007
#109639
Why buy a harness??

Relays are less than $5. Fuse holder for another $2, and some chunky wires for $5 (Maybe splurge and go for $10 worth of wires)

For the high beam part, you dont need a relay, because its just a regular bulb


So your wiring should go

Headlight Highbeam ---> High Beam prong on HID Bulb

Headlight Ground---> Ground prong on HID highbeam bulb
\
\-------> Ground of relay trigger (NOT ground of HID ballast)

Headlight Lowbeam ---> Trigger wire of Relay

Separate chunky earth wire ----> HID Ballast(Grounded to Chassis)

Separate chunky power wire:Battery ---> 25Amp inline fuse ---> Input lead on Relay
Output lead of relay ---> HID Ballast
Then get some electrical tape and wrap all of the wires so they are neat and inconspicuous.
View original BBCode
Why buy a harness??
 
Relays are less than $5. Fuse holder for another $2, and some chunky wires for $5 (Maybe splurge and go for $10 worth of wires)
 
For the high beam part, you dont need a relay,  because its just a regular bulb
 
 
So your wiring should go
 
[code]Headlight Highbeam ---> High Beam prong on HID Bulb
 
Headlight Ground---> Ground prong on HID highbeam bulb
       \
        \-------> Ground of relay trigger (NOT ground of HID ballast)
 
Headlight Lowbeam ---> Trigger wire of Relay
 
Separate chunky earth wire ----> HID Ballast(Grounded to Chassis)
 
Separate chunky power wire:Battery ---> 25Amp inline fuse ---> Input lead on Relay
Output lead of relay ---> HID Ballast[/code]Then get some electrical tape and wrap all of the wires so they are neat and inconspicuous.
elpresidenteNovember 26, 2007
#109663
Yep, listen to Dom..it's what I would do, but I'd shrink wrap the connections. I've seen some kits wired that way from the manufacturer. It's not rocket science. HID's are very simple in respect to customizing them to adapt. I have 9006/9005 but D2S/H4 output due to retrofit.
View original BBCode
Yep, listen to Dom..it's what I would do, but I'd shrink wrap the connections.  I've seen some kits wired that way from the manufacturer.  It's not rocket science.  HID's are very simple in respect to customizing them to adapt.  I have 9006/9005 but D2S/H4 output due to retrofit.
DominikNovember 27, 2007
#109718
Yep... I just put H3 HIDs in my foglights over the weekend, hence its all fresh in my mind lolThe harness i was given was taking power directly from the foglight wiring, and one look at the OEM wires for the fogs and i knew it wouldnt cut it...

So i did my own harness as above (minus the highbeam section)

I probably should have shrink wrapped the connections, not sure why i didnt. But when i say tape it up, i mean wrap the tape along the entire length of the wiring, so its all black and OEM looking


The results? Goddamn glare city! Headlights/Highbeams are not even noticeable when the fogs are on, its completely 180 degrees of light; completely useless for regular driving, but should be good as a highbeam replacement on long drives
View original BBCode
Yep... I just put H3 HIDs in my foglights over the weekend, hence its all fresh in my mind lolThe harness i was given was taking power directly from the foglight wiring, and one look at the OEM wires for the fogs and i knew it wouldnt cut it...

So i did my own harness as above (minus the highbeam section)

I probably should have shrink wrapped the connections, not sure why i didnt. But when i say tape it up, i mean wrap the tape along the entire length of the wiring, so its all black and OEM looking


The results? Goddamn glare city! Headlights/Highbeams are not even noticeable when the fogs are on, its completely 180 degrees of light; completely useless for regular driving, but should be good as a highbeam replacement on long drives