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Robocop lands in Houston

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DriftGirlNovember 25, 2007
#109276

Robocop lands in Houston

WALLER COUNTY, Texas -- Houston police started testing unmanned aircraft and the event was shrouded in secrecy, but it was captured on tape by Local 2 Investigates.
Neighbors in rural Waller County said they thought a top-secret military venture was under way among the farmland and ranches, some 70 miles northwest of Houston. KPRC Local 2 Investigates had four hidden cameras aimed at a row of mysterious black trucks. Satellite dishes and a swirling radar added to the neighbors' suspense.
Then, cameras were rolling as an unmanned aircraft was launched into the sky and operated by remote control.

Houston police cars were surrounding the land with a roadblock in place to check each of the dignitaries arriving for the invitation-only event. The invitation spelled out, "NO MEDIA ALLOWED."
HPD Chief Harold Hurtt attended, along with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and dozens of officers from various police agencies in the Houston area. Few of the guests would comment as they left the test site.

News Chopper 2 had a Local 2 Investigates team following the aircraft for more than one hour as it circled overhead. Its wings spanned 10 feet and it circled at an altitude of 1,500 feet. Operators from a private firm called Insitu, Inc. manned remote controls from inside the fleet of black trucks as the guests watched a live feed from the high-powered camera aboard the 40-pound aircraft.
"I wasn't ready to publicize this," Executive Assistant Police Chief Martha Montalvo said. She and other department leaders hastily organized a news conference when they realized Local 2 Investigates had captured the entire event on camera.

"We still haven't even decided how we were going to go forward on this task, so it seemed premature to me to announce this to the media," Montalvo said. "But since, obviously, the media found out about it, then I don't see any reason why just not go forward with what we have so far."
Montalvo told reporters the unmanned aircraft would be used for "mobility" or traffic issues, evacuations during storms, homeland security, search and rescue, and also "tactical." She admitted that could include covert police actions and she said she was not ruling out someday using the drones for writing traffic tickets.

A large number of the officers at the test site were assigned to the department's ticket-writing Radar Task Force. Capt. Tom Runyan insisted they were only there to provide "site security," even though KPRC cameras spotted those officers heavily participating in the test flight.
Houston police contacted KPRC from the test site, claiming the entire airspace was restricted by the Federal Aviation Administration. Police even threatened action from the FAA if the Local 2 helicopter remained in the area. However, KPRC reported it had already checked with the FAA on numerous occasions and found no flight restrictions around the site, a point conceded by Montalvo.
HPD leaders said they would address privacy and unlawful search questions later.
South Texas College of Law professor Rocky Rhodes, who teaches the constitution and privacy issues, said, "One issue is going to be law enforcement using this and when, by using these drones, are they conducting a search in which they'd need probable cause or a warrant. If the drones are being used to get into private spaces and be able to view where the government cannot otherwise go, and to collect information that would not otherwise be able to collect, that's concerning to me."

HPD Assistant Chief Vickie King said of the unmanned aircraft, "It's interesting that privacy doesn't occur or searches aren't an issue when you have a helicopter pilot over you and it would not be used in airspace other than what our helicopters are used in already."

She admitted that police helicopters are not equipped with cameras nearly as powerful as the unmanned aircraft, but she downplayed any privacy concerns, saying news helicopters have powerful cameras as well.

HPD stressed it is working with the FAA on reviewing the technical specifications, the airworthiness and hazards of flying unmanned aircraft in an urban setting. Future test flights are planned.
The price tag for an unmanned aircraft ranges from $30,000 to $1 million each and HPD is hoping to begin law enforcement from the air by June of 2008 with these new aircraft.

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WALLER COUNTY, Texas -- Houston police started testing unmanned aircraft and the event was shrouded in secrecy, but it was captured on tape by Local 2 Investigates.
Neighbors in rural Waller County said they thought a top-secret military venture was under way among the farmland and ranches, some 70 miles northwest of Houston. KPRC Local 2 Investigates had four hidden cameras aimed at a row of mysterious black trucks. Satellite dishes and a swirling radar added to the neighbors' suspense.
Then, cameras were rolling as an unmanned aircraft was launched into the sky and operated by remote control. 
 
Houston police cars were surrounding the land with a roadblock in place to check each of the dignitaries arriving for the invitation-only event. The invitation spelled out, "NO MEDIA ALLOWED."
HPD Chief Harold Hurtt attended, along with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and dozens of officers from various police agencies in the Houston area. Few of the guests would comment as they left the test site.
 
News Chopper 2 had a Local 2 Investigates team following the aircraft for more than one hour as it circled overhead. Its wings spanned 10 feet and it circled at an altitude of 1,500 feet. Operators from a private firm called Insitu, Inc. manned remote controls from inside the fleet of black trucks as the guests watched a live feed from the high-powered camera aboard the 40-pound aircraft.
"I wasn't ready to publicize this," Executive Assistant Police Chief Martha Montalvo said. She and other department leaders hastily organized a news conference when they realized Local 2 Investigates had captured the entire event on camera.
 
"We still haven't even decided how we were going to go forward on this task, so it seemed premature to me to announce this to the media," Montalvo said. "But since, obviously, the media found out about it, then I don't see any reason why just not go forward with what we have so far."
[B]Montalvo told reporters the unmanned aircraft would be used for "mobility" or traffic issues, evacuations during storms, homeland security, search and rescue, and also "tactical." She admitted that could include covert police actions and she said she was not ruling out someday using the drones for writing traffic tickets.[/B]
 
A large number of the officers at the test site were assigned to the department's ticket-writing Radar Task Force. Capt. Tom Runyan insisted they were only there to provide "site security," even though KPRC cameras spotted those officers heavily participating in the test flight.
Houston police contacted KPRC from the test site, claiming the entire airspace was restricted by the Federal Aviation Administration. Police even threatened action from the FAA if the Local 2 helicopter remained in the area. However, KPRC reported it had already checked with the FAA on numerous occasions and found no flight restrictions around the site, a point conceded by Montalvo.
HPD leaders said they would address privacy and unlawful search questions later.
South Texas College of Law professor Rocky Rhodes, who teaches the constitution and privacy issues, said, "One issue is going to be law enforcement using this and when, by using these drones, are they conducting a search in which they'd need probable cause or a warrant. If the drones are being used to get into private spaces and be able to view where the government cannot otherwise go, and to collect information that would not otherwise be able to collect, that's concerning to me."
 
HPD Assistant Chief Vickie King said of the unmanned aircraft, "It's interesting that privacy doesn't occur or searches aren't an issue when you have a helicopter pilot over you and it would not be used in airspace other than what our helicopters are used in already."
 
She admitted that police helicopters are not equipped with cameras nearly as powerful as the unmanned aircraft, but she downplayed any privacy concerns, saying news helicopters have powerful cameras as well.
 
HPD stressed it is working with the FAA on reviewing the technical specifications, the airworthiness and hazards of flying unmanned aircraft in an urban setting. Future test flights are planned.
The price tag for an unmanned aircraft ranges from $30,000 to $1 million each and HPD is hoping to begin law enforcement from the air by June of 2008 with these new aircraft. 
 
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widebody_QNovember 25, 2007
#109286
Would you get a felony for attacking Robocop?
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Would you get a felony for attacking Robocop?
OGNovember 25, 2007
#109312
yeah they broke this story quite a while ago on the news... i think we're supposed to be the first to be constantly watched (yay!), we already have cameras on the stop lights and freeways. i think they mentioned that chicago (maybe?) was doing this too. don't know why its being reported as a breaking story. welcome to the machine.
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yeah they broke this story quite a while ago on the news... i think we're supposed to be the first to be constantly watched (yay!), we already have cameras on the stop lights and freeways. i think they mentioned that chicago (maybe?) was doing this too. don't know why its being reported as a breaking story. welcome to the machine.
DriftGirlNovember 25, 2007
#109314
Chicago was the first to go live with the cams.

not sure how Id feel about an unmanned craft flying over my head...

sad days ahead :sad:
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Chicago was the first to go live with the cams. 
 
not sure how Id feel about an unmanned craft flying over my head...
 
sad days ahead :sad:
OGNovember 26, 2007
#109350
i wonder if you're standing in front of a stop light with your pants too low, will an airplane swwop down and give you a ticket?
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i wonder if you're standing in front of a stop light with your pants too low, will an airplane swwop down and give you a ticket?
DriftGirlNovember 26, 2007
#109635
in related news:

Tennessee: Gunfire Blasts Red Light Camera
Knoxville, Tennessee police accuse a man of blasting a red light camera with a .30-06 rifle.

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A red light camera in Knoxville, Tennessee was riddled with bullets early yesterday. The ticketing device, located at the intersection near Broadway Street and Interstate 640, was struck by three bullets at around 2am, leaving the camera's lens shattered and incapable of ticketing. WATE-TV reports that police found Clifford E. Clark III, 47, in a minivan near the scene of the incident with a .30-06 rifle. Clark was arrested and accused of felony vandalism for damaging the automated ticketing machine operated by Redflex, the Australian company that Knoxville hired to run the program.

Red light cameras are typically encased in "bullet resistant" housings that cannot stop a high-powered rifle round. The plating used on the red light camera increases the possibility of ricochet damage from small arms fire to nearby homes and businesses.


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The new ghetto bird in Houston will be a moving target :smiley-rofl:
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[B][I]in related news:[/I][/B] 
 
[B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Tennessee: Gunfire Blasts Red Light Camera[/SIZE][/FONT][/B]
[SIZE=2][FONT=Arial][I]Knoxville, Tennessee police accuse a man of blasting a red light camera with a .30-06 rifle.[/I][/FONT][/SIZE]
 
[IMG]http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/pix/camshot.jpg[/IMG]
 
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]A red light camera in Knoxville, Tennessee was riddled with bullets early yesterday. The ticketing device, located at the intersection near Broadway Street and Interstate 640, was struck by three bullets at around 2am, leaving the camera's lens shattered and incapable of ticketing. WATE-TV reports that police found Clifford E. Clark III, 47, in a minivan near the scene of the incident with a .30-06 rifle. Clark was arrested and accused of felony vandalism for damaging the automated ticketing machine operated by Redflex, the Australian company that Knoxville hired to run the program.[/SIZE][/FONT]
 
[SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]Red light cameras are typically encased in "bullet resistant" housings that cannot stop a high-powered rifle round. The plating used on the red light camera increases the possibility of ricochet damage from small arms fire to nearby homes and businesses.[/FONT][/SIZE]
 

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[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]The new ghetto bird in Houston will be a moving target :smiley-rofl: [/SIZE][/FONT]
BrianStylesNovember 27, 2007
#109769
someone's gonna cap that shit out of the sky.
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someone's gonna cap that shit out of the sky.