Airsus on s13 coils on y33

Ok, here ya go
i got the rear done, i forgot to tkae a pic of the shock installed, but i will tomorow for you guys

But here is the jist of it
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stock in the rear of the car
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I had to grind part of the collar to get the fitting to fit correctly and the bag to seat perfectly
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flushy flushy
sits nice
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And the bag ont eh coil
once inflated it fills it all comletely, im actually going ot move the perches down a bit, becuase hte bag has a little TOO much preload on it when fully infalted


anyways
the rear is done, awaiting some adjustments to make it sit ont eh ground
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All up!!!
Gained 1.5 inches! yey

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all down
right now thats all i got, ill give you guys more tomorrow!

Wicked!
 
Cant wait to see this with the fronts done and wheels on!

once people stop flaking, ill have some new kranzes

I guess I can more than assume you received your package..haha.

thats shits suave...I allways wanted a Coilover/bag set up...cant waite to see more pics

spanks zion

Sweet work as usual.  Thanks for the pics and I look forward to seeing the fronts done too.

very nice man...how big are your lines? 1/2"? when you do the front, will you run the lines inside the car or underneath....
 
btw, is the color of your kit a little off?

sweet setup

[QUOTE=VIP-UCF;111465]very nice man...how big are your lines? 1/2"? when you do the front, will you run the lines inside the car or underneath....
 
btw, is the color of your kit a little off?[/QUOTE]
Off?  Haha, that's what raw unpainted white gel coat looks like...haha.  The front door panel is painted though.

frotn will be ran under the car, i have clamps that will hold it to the body every foot
im about to hop in the shower and go to the hobby shop[ to finish up

[QUOTE=Yokotas13;111551]im about to hop in the shower and go to the hobby shop[ to finish up[/QUOTE]

i was gonna ask...but i thought that looked like an on post/base auto skills center.  that is one thing i miss about living in the barracks, now i gotta drive 30+ minutes to the nearest one.

yeha, its well worth the 6.00 an hour

i racked up a 300.00 fee when i did my stagea 5 speed GTR mission swap...Pita

looks good... can't wait to see it rimmed up and layed out. any idea why you had to grind the collar? i mean it sounds like a dumb question but i've never heard of anyone having to do that.

[quote=BLACKonBLACK98;111569]looks good... can't wait to see it rimmed up and layed out. any idea why you had to grind the collar? i mean it sounds like a dumb question but i've never heard of anyone having to do that.[/quote]
 
 
you have to grind the collar so the fitting and bag sit flush...the 3rd pic is a perfect shot of why...we had to do the same thing on a g35c install...

i know why you he had to do it, i guess the better way to phrase it would be: is it a common problem? you kind of answered that too.

[quote=BLACKonBLACK98;111569]any idea why you had to grind the collar?[/quote]
 
well you did ask WHY...
 
yes, it is a common problem if you're running coilovers...those fittings are big compared to say, airrunners...

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shock next to the bag

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takin it off!

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bag next to the shock

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installed uninflated

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installed inflated

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installed ont eh car
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all up

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all down


i need to drop the front a little bit more, but i dont scrape going into my drivewya anymore

Dope. Now paint next?

not really
garson interior is next

paint wont be until feb prolly. ill buy it for my Bday

Right on...I might have to help you rattle can the rest of the aero when I get there..haha.  That would "do" for now till you can paint.

maybe its been covered (and if it has, just say search) before but did you convert the front sus to s13? if so, how? I'm guessing all y33's normally have a spindle strut...i coule be wrong however...my fgy33 front sus looked like this...
 
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came out very nice nevertheless...props...

mine weas that origionally
there is an ENTIRE writeup

[quote=elpresidente;111514]Off? Haha, that's what raw unpainted white gel coat looks like...haha. The front door panel is painted though.[/quote]
 
 
i didn't want to sound like a total dick, especially when it's been calm lately...haha...

[quote=Yokotas13;111682]mine weas that origionally
there is an ENTIRE writeup[/quote]
 
thanks, i'll search for it...
 
EDIT: just read it...good info...

its in the how to
in this forum

with the coilover/bag setup, does it give you more of a drop with a more comfy ride? b/c thats also what im looking at doing on my ucf if it improves the ride quality

depending on brand of coilovers, i would say yes, it does give you more of a drop...comfy ride?  depending on the driver and coilover setup...it would give a more stiff ride...

no
i have the same exact ride thank god
just able to raise or lower it

Thats a real nice setup, cant wait to see it slammed with the weds

[QUOTE=widebody_Q;111755]Thats a real nice setup, cant wait to see it slammed with the weds[/QUOTE]

x2

so its beter to have bags on coilovers than the bags on regular shocks?

yes

Depends on what you are after. For people like Grant, and also myself, Air with Coilovers is a great solution. But we want STIFF suspension. I aint driving my grandma around in my car no more, i just want to make sure i dont bottom out when i am driving with 1" ground clearance

If you want soft and stock, stick with your OEM airshocks. Nothing will be softer (or more boat-like) than that.

i want ultimate slam with as good of a ride i can get. so just regular coilovers would give me the best ride with being on the ground

You probably want something like airrunner. I hear thats pretty good down low.
The thing is, when you are [b]really[/b] low you *cant* have good ride, because good ride comes from the struts absorbing bumps and dips. When your chassis is 1 inch off the ground you literally have no room for movement.

Turned out really nice Grant. That thing is sitting super super low. I am glad you can get into your driveway now without scrapes or a 25 minute fiasco.

Jake

[quote=Dominik;111925]You probably want something like airrunner. I hear thats pretty good down low.
The thing is, when you are [B]really[/B] low you *cant* have good ride, because good ride comes from the struts absorbing bumps and dips. When your chassis is 1 inch off the ground you literally have no room for movement.[/quote]
 
 
airrunners are a typical airbag set up...meaning they suck super low...and they suck super high...gotta find that 'sweetspot' where you're low enough to look good but not bouncing off the road...

i appreciate all the good words guys
i was going to lower the front, but i went to upgarage and bought some stuff for hte wifes car instead

ill update the thread once i get the ride height sorted out
i need to raise my downpipe really bad, as its resting on it right now at full drop lol

Looks great, makes me wanna refurbish my coilovers when getting UAS bags instead of running stock shocks.

i completely reccomend it
its 100% badass

Just one question, instead of grinding down the collar of the upper adjustment ring of your coilover, why didn`t you just switch places of the upper and lower ring?

sitll cant do it
it wont work, tried it
you have to grind a little bit

[QUOTE=Yokotas13;112120]sitll cant do it
it wont work, tried it
you have to grind a little bit[/QUOTE]

Ok, but there is less you haveto grind away on the lower ring right?

why does it matter?
The spanner isnt anythign structural
i dont take enough away to affect anything.

i dont see the big deal about it.

[QUOTE=Yokotas13;112123]why does it matter?
The spanner isnt anythign structural
i dont take enough away to affect anything.

i dont see the big deal about it.[/QUOTE]

I`m just curoius since I haveto do the same myself and want to do it the easiest way. I`m not saying that the way you did it was wrong, just wanted to know if it was easier if I switched places of the upper and lower ring.

[QUOTE=Liquorice;112125]I`m just curoius since I haveto do the same myself and want to do it the easiest way. I`m not saying that the way you did it was wrong, just wanted to know if it was easier if I switched places of the upper and lower ring.[/QUOTE]

It doesn't matter if you switch the collars or not...they usually have the same amount of teeth and are identical to each other...

nice work man, very inovative idea for those who want to keep a sporty ride.  I was just wondering what kinda bags and stuff you were using, like a universal air ride kit?  Again, great work and awesome pics/write up

what rate are the dampeners ?  i wouls see it that lets say.... you get the "budget weld on sleeves" use your old casing, weld it up throw in a bitching shock, it would be the same ?

is this set up as stiff as it was with the coils in ? or stiffer ? this is pretty dope. 

would there be any "touge/racing/good enough to handle some corner" worthy bags worth doing this with ? as i love the uber slammed style, and while slammed i want it stiff, but for daily, low and mild. would be hell to adjust every time, but i would see this highly worth it.

if you have more info, keep us posted man !

[quote=VIP_vert_style;115789]nice work man, very inovative idea for those who want to keep a sporty ride.  I was just wondering what kinda bags and stuff you were using, like a universal air ride kit?  Again, great work and awesome pics/write up[/quote]

UAS bags of course!


[quote=guymx83;115798]what rate are the dampeners ?  i wouls see it that lets say.... you get the "budget weld on sleeves" use your old casing, weld it up throw in a bitching shock, it would be the same ?

is this set up as stiff as it was with the coils in ? or stiffer ? this is pretty dope. 

would there be any "touge/racing/good enough to handle some corner" worthy bags worth doing this with ? as i love the uber slammed style, and while slammed i want it stiff, but for daily, low and mild. would be hell to adjust every time, but i would see this highly worth it.

if you have more info, keep us posted man ![/quote]

this is good enough for a day at the track
be it drift, drag (ok maybe not drag) grip, autox, whatever

these bags coupled with a good coilover, is fantastic.
the ride is exactly like if you had the spring on, and changed the bags randomly, youd never know.

i drive at about 25 psi on even roads

about 50 on bumpy roads, and 60 if its super duper dippy so i dont kill stuff on my car.


What i really want to do ideally is this
Get a schrader valve (like a valve stem)
send a bag off to someone with a spring tester, fill the bag to the PSI you normally drive at
Have them get he APPROX tension (i dunno the right word) of the bag in relation to a spring.
Buy Ohlins, koni, etc etc and have it valved for that spring rate, and bolt it on. WIll ride like butta.

A great setup would be the Tanabe Five's or Sevens equipped with the TEAS System and UAS modified. There you get complete adjust ability for ride height and dampening from the comfort of your drivers seat.

you can do the same with..
tein
cusco
JIC
and a host of other companies
tanabe is overpriced for the quality and ride.

thing is... i dont want to buy a coilover set up to only throw bags on. thats just pricey. i was thinking about just welding a sleve onto the stock casing, throw in some short stroked valved for like 14kg in the front and 10 in the rear.. cause suspension only rides as good as your dampening. then just figure out a uber bag set up. and i have really no experience with air bags.

awsome thread.. gots me thinking now :D

yeah, but a mismatched dampning is useless

buy a bag
put a bike valve on it (you can buy from any air store) and inflate it to the psi you want
have someone test it
get it valved based on that spring rate

i mean if you listen to me, it will be sick as fuck
if you dont, you might fail

i have this completely thought out and calcualted man, it took my 4 months to figure out what i wanted

[QUOTE=Yokotas13;116894]yeah, but a mismatched dampning is useless

buy a bag
put a bike valve on it (you can buy from any air store) and inflate it to the psi you want
have someone test it
get it valved based on that spring rate

i mean if you listen to me, it will be sick as fuck
if you dont, you might fail

i have this completely thought out and calcualted man, it took my 4 months to figure out what i wanted[/QUOTE]

sooo.... you are basically sayin that i have to get the coilovers redone for the psi/ rate of the bags?  so if i wanted to get jic for a q45 and i got uas bags and just slapped them on it would not ride good  unless i had the jic's set up the bags(sorry if i am being annoying.  read the thread.... just trying to get it straight)

well

it would ride decent

but to get a true perfect setup, you would do the above
i just slapped my bags on, and tuned the PSI so it felt hwo i know it should.

but if your not experienced in how a car should handle, youll really never tell the difference
you will just say its too stiff, or bouncy.