Do wheels really matter?

Do wheels really make a impact on a Vip car.
Now, im not talking about authentic or replica wheels but more of brand names.
Most of you fellas are rocking JDM wheels. So, if a M45, Q45 , LS & Gs was rocking some
HRE's, Brabus, iForged, DPE's . . . & it had it's fitment game would it make a difference?






:thelaw:

Wheels make or break the car.  I thought this was common knowledge?

i dunno how to answer. it's all about luxury, but then again it's mostly about jdm luxury. i know the lowenharts made that onestar majesta, and there are a ton of cars in the mags on those lorinser "fins" to the point where jdm companies are copying them. so i'll say this: if you're gonna go outside of the norm you better pull it off to the point where no one questions why you did it.

Its all about how you pull it off.

I dont think theres a limit when it comes to brands ect. Just aslong as the fitment and the design flows well, and their not no knock offs ect. Then your good.

[QUOTE]Do wheels really make a impact on a Vip car.
Now, im not talking about authentic or replica wheels but more of brand names.
Most of you fellas are rocking JDM wheels. So, if a M45, Q45 , LS & Gs was rocking some
HRE's, Brabus, iForged, DPE's . . . & it had it's fitment game would it make a difference?



[/QUOTE]
 
Brabus, Lorinser and other euro top of the line brands are accepted.  I could see HRE pulling it off since their wheels are classy and you can choose custom offsets and widths.  The quality isnt as good as some of the JDM companies out there and the prices are heigher though.
 
 
 
[quote=BLACKonBLACK98;111557]i. i know the lowenharts made that onestar majesta, and there are a ton of cars in the mags on those lorinser "fins" to the point where jdm companies are copying them. so i'll say this: if you're gonna go outside of the norm you better pull it off to the point where no one questions why you did it.[/quote]
 
I was always under the inpression that Lowenharts are Japanese, arn't they?

Lowenhart is Japanese. Hart group: Lowenhart, Racing Hart, Eurohart

I guess this is actually "does a wheel's origin matter"?

And I'd have to say no. It depends on the quality of the wheel... what class it's in, so to speak.

I would definitely put brands like Sevas and Asanti as Vip car worthy.

It's not even like all Japanese wheels are the highest possible quality anyways. Just look at cast Work wheels vs. Asanti forged.
You'd have to be trying pretty hard to make a forged wheel that is inferior to a cast wheel.

[quote=widebody_Q;111771]I was always under the inpression that Lowenharts are Japanese, arn't they?[/quote]
you are correct
[quote=firelizard;111819]Lowenhart is Japanese. Hart group: Lowenhart, Racing Hart, Eurohart[/quote]
correct as well. for some reason i always think of lowenhart as a euro wheel. same with bbs. :dunno: 
[quote=firelizard;111819]I would definitely put brands like Sevas and Asanti as Vip car worthy.[/quote]
don't know about that. from what i understand sevas is now all cast 1 piece. stuff like sysmbolic, hre, gfg, asanti just doesn't seemed geared towards the same style, but i'm sure someone could pull it off.

[quote]Do wheels really matter?[/quote]
:pat: :yahoo_35:

Does breathing matter?? Does food matter? Does LIFE matter? Without wheels life rolling stockies. 



EDIT: Interesting how life with forged wheels is heaven but if it was only wire spokes it'd be hell. :-P

[QUOTE=widebody_Q;111771]Brabus, Lorinser and other euro top of the line brands are accepted.  I could see HRE pulling it off since their wheels are classy and you can choose custom offsets and widths.  The quality isnt as good as some of the JDM companies out there and the prices are heigher though.
 
[/QUOTE]

When did this happen? As far as quality is concerned, I'll put HREs up against
ANY of the Japanese wheels... any day of the week. (I worked for HRE for six
years as their Project Manager, so I think I'm qualified to chime-in).

Bottom line is that a custom wheel by nature lends itself to the VIP scene
(due to the availability of custom offsets) and these will traditionally be
more expensive than an off-the-rack wheel.

As an aside, the Work VS-XX I tried to order for the AE86 were NOT available
in the offsets I required. Work Japan made a big deal about trying to hit the 
EXACT offset numbers I was trying for. I canceled the order...

[QUOTE=BLACKonBLACK98;111837]
don't know about that. from what i understand sevas is now all cast 1 piece.[/QUOTE]

There's Sevas, which yes, is one piece cast, but there is also Sevas Forged, which is all 3 piece forged stuff.

[quote=XCELMotorsports;111760]Its all about how you pull it off.

I dont think theres a limit when it comes to brands ect. Just aslong as the fitment and the design flows wel[/quote]


ACE alloys...:shrug:
[IMG]http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g91/mpsport/Henry/DSC03590.jpg[/IMG]

Ummm, i'm not sure what your asking. Is this a wheel [B][I]BRAND[/I][/B] question? If so, I don't really see the confusion in distinction. I want to believe that obvious high quality is the goal. Mostly when I see Asanti, Geovanna(whatever), TIS or any rims you get at Rent-A-Wheel, I don't think high class. I just imagine the wheels making bling noises when I see'em rollin. Wonderin if they will continue spinning after the car stops. In that case, fo damn sure the wheels make a difference!

You don't think high class when you see [i]Asanti[/i]?
$2,000 forged wheels custom built from bolt pattern to finish aren't high  class, but cast wheels are when they're made in Japan?

[QUOTE=firelizard;114901]You don't think high class when you see [i]Asanti[/i]?
$2,000 forged wheels custom built from bolt pattern to finish aren't high  class, but cast wheels are when they're made in Japan?[/QUOTE]

I said [B]MOSTLY[/B]and didn't specify any japanese wheels. Now that you mention it, you can increase the value of crap buy putting stuff in it or on it, but it's still crap IMO. I apalogize if I struck any nerves.

[QUOTE=firelizard;114901]You don't think high class when you see [i]Asanti[/i]?
$2,000 forged wheels custom built from bolt pattern to finish aren't high  class, but cast wheels are when they're made in Japan?[/QUOTE]

I'd rather have classy cast wheels from Japan than high quality ghetto looking wheels from the US.

[QUOTE=augdogg;114902]I said [B]MOSTLY[/B]and didn't specify any japanese wheels. Now that you mention it, you can increase the value of crap buy putting stuff in it or on it, but it's still crap IMO. I apalogize if I struck any nerves.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't aware that Asanti wheels were crap. So yeah, nerve struck.


I'd rather have cast wheels that I like, than forged wheels that I don't like too though.

[QUOTE=firelizard;111819]It's not even like all Japanese wheels are the highest possible quality anyways. Just look at cast Work wheels vs. Asanti forged.
You'd have to be trying pretty hard to make a forged wheel that is inferior to a cast wheel.[/QUOTE]

BTW, before you compare wheels. Make sure they are created for the same purpose. FYI [I][B]WORK[/B][/I] Specialize in [I]performance racing wheels[/I] , and Asanti does not. I'd like to see Asanti create a forged racing wheel superior to the cast ones WORK makes.

Asanti?   whats that?   Sure sounds expensive...

Sure WORKS and AME wheels and others are nice, but there's nothing like a set of Leon Harditts (SP), WEDS! or any other high end brand............................. 
:dance:

Trafficstar is super!

I think wheels are very important on a VIP car. One of those things that makes it or breaks it..I personally have allways like Vielsides because they have such huge lips and they are a true three piece wheel...(makes it easier to refinish) I nice put together VIP car with some TSW down grades the cars eye candy to me...and vs versa any car with top notch wheels looks way better even without the VIP add ons  just cuase the wheels.............so yeah Wheels really matter...

[QUOTE=augdogg;114911]BTW, before you compare wheels. Make sure they are created for the same purpose. FYI [I][B]WORK[/B][/I] Specialize in [I]performance racing wheels[/I] , and Asanti does not.[/QUOTE]

Sure. Call me when you see a race car on Varianzas.

[quote=elpresidente;111553]Wheels make or break the car. I thought this was common knowledge?[/quote]
 
 
wrd!  :rules:

oops!

[QUOTE=firelizard;115003]Sure. Call me when you see a race car on Varianzas.[/QUOTE]

I ment to say the primary type of wheel they make are racing wheels and are now getting into luxary. Why not a closer comparison? Which was my point. I mean if your going to compare quaility, why not level the playing field? Do you have any pics of Asanti/Lexani sucessfully pulling off VIP? Maybe I need to see what your getting @....:shrug:

I don't think Asanti has attempted Vip, that's not their market. But I really do think the right setup could be done with wheels from their lineup.

wheels should be the first thing decided when you fix up a car. as others have said, it makes or breaks the car.

lexani asanti...These are the rims you see on BET?

[QUOTE=Blitz;115095]lexani asanti...These are the rims you see on BET?[/QUOTE]

...or Pimp My Ride on Mtv

you guys sure do pay attention to name brands....like chicks and purses....i say if it looks good....who cares???? Some of you kinda remind me of those fags that put the little green arrow on your ride...lol It's JDM!!!! Also there are some bad ass asanti rims.... also some stright trash ones...also applies to japanese wheels...... peep it out for yourself...... [URL]http://www.asantiwheels.com[/URL]

Asanti's are definatly baller status wheels w/ rims costing more than the higher brand "VIP" rims!
But I see them ALL the time and they do give off a more dub apperance! But that's because everybody tends to jus slap on the most extreme wheels they can! (Bigger/Wider) I think if somebody got the fitment on point they wouldn't look so Dubb out! I wouldn't count them out and I never talk about them because sh** they cost more than my whole car together!
:shrug:

It's all marketing...just like Bose...Bose in reality are not that good at all and charge alot...

[QUOTE=DEE;115140]you guys sure do pay attention to name brands....like chicks and purses....i say if it looks good....who cares???? Some of you kinda remind me of those fags that put the little green arrow on your ride...lol It's JDM!!!! Also there are some bad ass asanti rims.... also some stright trash ones...also applies to japanese wheels...... peep it out for yourself...... [URL]http://www.asantiwheels.com[/URL][/QUOTE]


FAGS!!!  lol

[quote=PANCAKES!;115157]Asanti's are definatly baller status wheels w/ rims costing more than the higher brand "VIP" rims!
But I see them ALL the time and they do give off a more dub apperance! But that's because everybody tends to jus slap on the most extreme wheels they can! (Bigger/Wider) I think if somebody got the fitment on point they wouldn't look so Dubb out! I wouldn't count them out and I never talk about them because sh** they cost more than my whole car together!
:shrug:[/quote]
 
24-28" 3 piece wheels do cost a grip....I hardly see Asanti's on SUV'S....mostly on BM's.... look sick tho..... 21-22"s with 5 inch lips lol on a 6 or 7 series looks crazeeeee.....I don't care what you call it.....

[QUOTE=DEE;115140]you guys sure do pay attention to name brands....like chicks and purses....i say if it looks good....who cares???? Some of you kinda remind me of those fags that put the little green arrow on your ride...lol It's JDM!!!! Also there are some bad ass asanti rims.... also some stright trash ones...also applies to japanese wheels...... peep it out for yourself...... [URL]http://www.asantiwheels.com[/URL][/QUOTE]
:thelaw: :dance: ..........its all about beeing VIP....OHHHH and what kinda wheels do you have...Traffic Stars?????thats a name brand:slap: .........do you have a green sticker 2 LOL?

When I bought these I had no clue what they were...I just bought them because they were nice for the price..... and no I don't have a sticker....you jacked it from me....remember??

[quote=DEE;115176]24-28" 3 piece wheels do cost a grip....I hardly see Asanti's on SUV'S....mostly on BM's.... look sick tho..... 21-22"s with 5 inch lips lol on a 6 or 7 series looks crazeeeee.....I don't care what you call it.....[/quote]

thats for damn suree!! there is a few 7's in my area on asantis.:biggthumpup:

if you remember a couple years back asanti made wood grain rims and to me the right fit would look clean on a "vip" or "vip styled" car, since wood grain is a "big" part of the "vip" culture

[quote=gizm08o8;115209]thats for damn suree!! there is a few 7's in my area on asantis.:biggthumpup:
 
if you remember a couple years back asanti made wood grain rims and to me the right fit would look clean on a "vip" or "vip styled" car, since wood grain is a "big" part of the "vip" culture[/quote]
 
 
you can ask zion paint your wheels to look woodgrain..... lol

true too! since he does a kick ass job at the wood paint!!!

yeah he's pretty top notch at it from what I seen.....

[QUOTE=firelizard;115003]Sure. Call me when you see a race car on Varianzas.[/QUOTE]

What kind of comment is that? Work's Varianza line is marketed towards luxury cars. And you're not gonna see Asantis on a race car either.

BTW I really hate TSW wheels.

[quote=zion_97;115204]:thelaw: :dance: ..........its all about beeing VIP....OHHHH and what kinda wheels do you have...Traffic Stars?????thats a name brand:slap: .........do you have a green sticker 2 LOL?[/quote]
 
HAhahahaha!
I have AMEs w/ an AME badge! :biggthumpup: :dance: 
 
[quote=Blitz;115174]FAGS!!! lol[/quote]
 
LOL!!!!!!! :werd: :fyou: 
"Haterz gonna hate loveres gonna love I don't even want non of the above! I'm gonna piss you!"
"Drip drip drip!"

[QUOTE=DEE;115208]When I bought these I had no clue what they were...I just bought them because they were nice for the price..... and no I don't have a sticker....you jacked it from me....remember??[/QUOTE]
YEah I jacked it and burned it...LOL...I thought you purchased those wheels new...Traffic stars are one of my favorite wheel choices. I remember on the old forum you were one of the first ones on air and i said damn that Q looks sick..saw your flick on you tube and when it drove off I thought to myself one day my shit will look sick rolling out like that.......

[QUOTE=ChrisES;115219]What kind of comment is that? Work's Varianza line is marketed towards luxury cars. And you're not gonna see Asantis on a race car either.[/QUOTE]
You had to be following the conversation to get it.

He said Work makes race wheels. I pointed out that the Varianza line (and many others) are not at all race wheels.

[quote=elpresidente;111553]Wheels make or break the car. I thought this was common knowledge?[/quote]
 
yup thats right on the money... couldnt have said it better..

[quote=PANCAKES!;114983]Sure WORKS and AME wheels and others are nice, but there's nothing like a set of Leon Harditts (SP), WEDS! or any other high end brand............................. 
:dance:[/quote]
bitchen

thats what im saying!

[QUOTE=Yokotas13;116316]bitchen

thats what im saying![/QUOTE]

+2

go big or go home

if its not aat least a 2pc

it doesnt belong on a vip car...end of story

these monoblock wheels are stupid, and cheap
especially those MMR bullshits, i hate seeing those on VIP cars, its like sportmax.

[quote=Yokotas13;116475]go big or go home

if its not aat least a 2pc

it doesnt belong on a vip car...end of story

these monoblock wheels are stupid, and cheap
especially those MMR bullshits, i hate seeing those on VIP cars, its like sportmax.[/quote]

...says the cat who's missing the grill on his car. :smiley:  Just fockin w/ ya man! 

I don't mind my MRR's for now.  After I had one of the first sets of AME Schrifts in the US and watched those get destroyed, it's gonna be low-maint and easily replaceable wheels for me for a while... til I get my balls back up again.:sad:

MMR are nice for the budget builder.....or is there such a thing in the VIP culture?

Wheels matter.  Put some ebay jumpoffs on your new Benz and you instantly brought down the value of your ride Visually by 10g's or more.

This thread is very interesting.  I hate when people put ugly, goudy chrome wheels on their bucket.  I looked at the Asanti website and to me they do not resemble VIP status.  I don't like TSW because they are basically garbage.  I sold my last set (the ones that are in my signature) because I felt like the value of my car went down like pretty much everyone else in this thread said.

Yokotas13, to each their own but MRR design isn't cheap knock offs or VIP copies. MRR wheels are made at the same Taiwanese factory that many VIP monoblocks are made at.  What MRR does is when there is a company like Lxury Hanes who doesn't want to bring their wheels into the US, MRR pays them to bring their wheel in under a different name. That's why some MRR wheels say stuff like Herriborani and Lxury Hanes on the spokes because they are importing from those companies who don't care about people in the US to bring the wheels in themselves.

Some people don't [i]want[/i] the attention of expensive wheels, and some people don't want to pay $5,000 for a set of wheels ever if they can afford it, some people want a quality good looking wheel at a decent price. At a price where if you curb a wheel at 3-am at taco bell, it isn't the end of the world and it didn't just cost you $1,000.

I have had more then a few sets of MRR Wheels, hell I have a new set going on my car on Monday. I like them and their quality, and for what its worth, its nice to have a cheap set for the weekly grind and a sick multi-piece weekend set for ballin'

[quote=Sherlock SEL;123779]Yokotas13, to each their own but MRR design isn't cheap knock offs or VIP copies. MRR wheels are made at the same Taiwanese factory that many VIP monoblocks are made at.  What MRR does is when there is a company like Lxury Hanes who doesn't want to bring their wheels into the US, MRR pays them to bring their wheel in under a different name. That's why some MRR wheels say stuff like Herriborani and Lxury Hanes on the spokes because they are importing from those companies who don't care about people in the US to bring the wheels in themselves.

Some people don't [I]want[/I] the attention of expensive wheels, and some people don't want to pay $5,000 for a set of wheels ever if they can afford it, some people want a quality good looking wheel at a decent price. At a price where if you curb a wheel at 3-am at taco bell, it isn't the end of the world and it didn't just cost you $1,000.

I have had more then a few sets of MRR Wheels, hell I have a new set going on my car on Monday. I like them and their quality, and for what its worth, its nice to have a cheap set for the weekly grind and a sick multi-piece weekend set for ballin'[/quote]


your first 2 paragraphs sound like a honda owner who rolls on rotas. :ughdown: I hate rotas and most companies that all they do is make replicas.

Yup, and since MRR doesn't do replica's I dunno how that makes me sound like a honda owner who rolls rotas so.... :gtfo2:

OEM for the MTW!!  nothing like tucking 16" chromies on ballooned tires.  :)

haha right on SherlockSEL, MRR wheels don't make knock offs. their wheels for the most part, are original designs by cosmic of japan. Notice the hereborani engraving on the wheel ? dur dur

as sherlockSEL said, MRR just gets them from the manufacturer and imports them into the states. 

Hopefully MRR will start importing the luxury hanes into the states because I'd be all over it!!!



[quote=Sherlock SEL;123779]Yokotas13, to each their own but MRR design isn't cheap knock offs or VIP copies. MRR wheels are made at the same Taiwanese factory that many VIP monoblocks are made at.  What MRR does is when there is a company like Lxury Hanes who doesn't want to bring their wheels into the US, MRR pays them to bring their wheel in under a different name. That's why some MRR wheels say stuff like Herriborani and Lxury Hanes on the spokes because they are importing from those companies who don't care about people in the US to bring the wheels in themselves.

Some people don't [I]want[/I] the attention of expensive wheels, and some people don't want to pay $5,000 for a set of wheels ever if they can afford it, some people want a quality good looking wheel at a decent price. At a price where if you curb a wheel at 3-am at taco bell, it isn't the end of the world and it didn't just cost you $1,000.

I have had more then a few sets of MRR Wheels, hell I have a new set going on my car on Monday. I like them and their quality, and for what its worth, its nice to have a cheap set for the weekly grind and a sick multi-piece weekend set for ballin'[/quote]

[quote=bmxican;123784]your first 2 paragraphs sound like a honda owner who rolls on rotas. :ughdown: I hate rotas and most companies that all they do is make replicas.[/quote]

[quote=Sherlock SEL;123786]Yup, and since MRR doesn't do replica's I dunno how that makes me sound like a honda owner who rolls rotas so.... :gtfo2:[/quote]

[quote=Qclass;125032] 
 
Hopefully MRR will start importing the luxury hanes into the states because I'd be all over it!!![/quote]
 
Same, I was looking into importing a set to use as some nice winter beater wheels

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