Thread #9107

Best fiiting tire for g50 on 18s

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Bippu MaxFebruary 6, 2008
#125479

Best fiiting tire for g50 on 18s

Ok as most of you know I have gotten rind of my a32 for a 94 q45. I have some 18x8s that I had on my X-Runner and want to put them on my q for the time being and was wondering what the best tire size would be.
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Ok as most of you know I have gotten rind of my a32 for a 94 q45. I have some 18x8s that I had on my X-Runner and want to put them on my q for the time being and was wondering what the best tire size would be.
widebody_QFebruary 6, 2008
#125481
We need to know the offset your running as well. Also, im guessing your stock height as of now since you just got the car. DO you mean perfect fitting when your slammed? Or at stock height?

I recomend you get the fenders rolled reguardless
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We need to know the offset your running as well.  Also, im guessing your stock height as of now since you just got the car.  DO you mean perfect fitting when your slammed?  Or at stock height?
 
I recomend you get the fenders rolled reguardless
Bippu MaxFebruary 6, 2008
#125486
Yup it's stock height for now but will be getting slammed pretty soon. I think the offset is 30. I have to check.
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Yup it's  stock height for now but will be getting slammed pretty soon. I think the offset is 30. I have to check.
DominikFebruary 6, 2008
#125538
you wont have any clearance issues with those at all, so it doesnt matter what tyres you get. Just get whatever the wheelshop recommends to keep the rolling diameter correct.
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you wont have any clearance issues with those at all, so it doesnt matter what tyres you get. Just get whatever the wheelshop recommends to keep the rolling diameter correct.
Bippu MaxFebruary 7, 2008
#125845
Ok,kew. So just go with what is recommended and no stretch?
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Ok,kew. So just go with what is recommended and no stretch?
piolazzFebruary 7, 2008
#125848
i would go into 215/40...its very proper size,u won't get any problems driving it
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i would go into 215/40...its very proper size,u won't get any problems driving it
Bippu MaxFebruary 7, 2008
#125849
So with 215-40 and fender rolling I should be just fine when slammed.
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So with 215-40 and fender rolling I should be just fine when slammed.
piolazzFebruary 7, 2008
#125855
if fender rolled...you could even try 215/35
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if fender rolled...you could even try 215/35
Bippu MaxFebruary 7, 2008
#125858
Sweet! I was looking at that size as well since price is similar
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Sweet! I was looking at that size as well since price is similar
urmyhero4nowFebruary 9, 2008
#126524
215/40 on an 8inch +30? cmon i was using a 215/40 on a 9 inch +7.
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215/40 on an 8inch +30? cmon i was using a 215/40 on a 9 inch +7.
piolazzFebruary 10, 2008
#126562
is there a 205/40/18..??that would b sweet:))
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is there a 205/40/18..??that would b sweet:))
Bippu MaxFebruary 10, 2008
#126585
That's the whole reason I'm asking b4 I buy and waste my time and money for somthing that doesent look right. I know I was running 215 on my 18x7 for my a32 and they were not stretched at all but had a nice standard look to it.
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That's the whole reason I'm asking b4 I buy and waste my time and money for somthing that doesent look right. I know I was running 215 on my 18x7 for my a32 and they were not stretched at all but had a nice standard look to it.
Bippu MaxFebruary 10, 2008
#126587
urmyhero4now;126524 wrote:215/40 on an 8inch +30? cmon i was using a 215/40 on a 9 inch +7.


Hey my q is the same color as yours,lol. Got a link to some pix?
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[QUOTE=urmyhero4now;126524]215/40 on an 8inch +30? cmon i was using a 215/40 on a 9 inch +7.[/QUOTE]

Hey my q is the same color as yours,lol. Got a link to some pix?
OGFebruary 10, 2008
#126595
i wouldn't waiste the time/money unless your stock tires are bad. that money could be spent on suspension/wheels.
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i wouldn't waiste the time/money unless your stock tires are bad. that money could be spent on suspension/wheels.
Bippu MaxFebruary 10, 2008
#126598
Well the j30 wheels are not the prettiest things to look at on a q45,lol. I am undecided bout 18,119 or 20 and since I have some 18s already with burnt tread from drifting I thought these would be a good starting point especially if I went with 18's I'd just swap over the tires.
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Well the j30 wheels are not the prettiest things to look at on a q45,lol. I am undecided bout 18,119 or 20 and since I have some 18s already with burnt tread from drifting I thought these would be a good starting point especially if I went with 18's I'd just swap over the tires.
urmyhero4nowFebruary 10, 2008
#126609
there is links around of my cars pics..as for the tire stretch....yes it looks nice. but if you dont need it your just a poser.
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there is links around of my cars pics..as for the tire stretch....yes it looks nice. but if you dont need it your just a poser.
Bippu MaxFebruary 10, 2008
#126610
Yeah I'm just rying to get in the game right and not be one of those posers that think just b/c they a black 4dr car they are automatically VIP status. I've been doing research and have been around the scene for a while when I'd go visit my brother at the Naval Base in Japan.I've just always been into the circuit racing side of it with my cr-x now that I'm getiing older(29) I need to be more stylish. But as far as the tire size goes I'll just goe with what fits best until I get the wheels I want. I'm curntly slammed on z32 coilovers at the moment and tucking the stock 15s
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Yeah I'm just rying to get in the game right and not be one of those posers that think just b/c they a black 4dr car they are automatically VIP status. I've been doing research and have been around the scene for a while when I'd go visit my brother at the Naval Base in Japan.I've just always been into the circuit racing side of it with my cr-x now that I'm getiing older(29) I need to be more stylish. But as far as the tire size goes I'll just goe with what fits best until I get the wheels I want. I'm curntly slammed on z32 coilovers at the moment and tucking the stock 15s
urmyhero4nowFebruary 10, 2008
#126614
lets see some pics son :D
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lets see some pics son :D
Bippu MaxFebruary 10, 2008
#126615
urmyhero4now;126614 wrote:lets see some pics son :D


Unfortunately I only have a few on my myspace page. I havent made a cardomain page yet.
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[QUOTE=urmyhero4now;126614]lets see some pics son :D[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately I only have a few on my myspace page. I havent made a cardomain page yet.
DamicciFebruary 10, 2008
#126635
18x8 +30 All around?
I would think those could rub but i don't know how much difference an inch in diameter and .5 in width make.

I am running 19x8.5 +35 low disc in front and rub only on un even terrain and hard turns. Not much clearance either if i go with a lower off set then I would rub constantly having to increase negative camber. This is also with a 225/35
Rears will be cake.

18x8 +30 should be fine but as for tire width I would run a 215 as mentioned.
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18x8 +30 All around?
I would think those could rub but i don't know how much difference an inch in diameter and .5 in width make.

I am running 19x8.5 +35 low disc in front and rub only on un even terrain and hard turns. Not much clearance either if i go with a lower off set then I would rub constantly having to increase negative camber. This is also with a 225/35
Rears will be cake.

18x8 +30 should be fine but as for tire width I would run a 215 as mentioned.
OGFebruary 10, 2008
#126686
you should have 1mm more clearance than damicci (nothing).

stock wheels may not be pretty, but imo if you are building a vip car stock is better than something thats not up to par. put the money you would spend on tires towards some baller wheels.
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you should have 1mm more clearance than damicci (nothing).
 
stock wheels may not be pretty, but imo if you are building a vip car stock is better than something thats not up to par. put the money you would spend on tires towards some baller wheels.
Bippu MaxFebruary 10, 2008
#126687
Ok,kew kew. Keep 'em coming guys and will get a pic posted once I decide on what tire to go with.
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Ok,kew kew. Keep 'em coming guys and will get a pic posted once I decide on what tire to go with.
Bippu MaxFebruary 10, 2008
#126688
BLACKonBLACK98;126686 wrote:you should have 1mm more clearance than damicci (nothing).

stock wheels may not be pretty, but imo if you are building a vip car stock is better than something thats not up to par. put the money you would spend on tires towards some baller wheels.


So true. Ok new qwestion. Are 18's too small for the Q? I have always liked the DISH wheels(Fabulous,DH,etc) How would the look on the Q? I have seen plenty on y33s tho.
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[QUOTE=BLACKonBLACK98;126686]you should have 1mm more clearance than damicci (nothing).
 
stock wheels may not be pretty, but imo if you are building a vip car stock is better than something thats not up to par. put the money you would spend on tires towards some baller wheels.[/QUOTE]

So true. Ok new qwestion. Are 18's too small for the Q? I have always liked the DISH wheels(Fabulous,DH,etc) How would the look on the Q? I have seen plenty on y33s tho.
OGFebruary 10, 2008
#126700
i dont see a lot of g50 pics, but dish would be the way i would go. i have actally been thinking of doin a g50 next if i can't afford a y34. i think 18-19" is optimal.
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i dont see a lot of g50 pics, but dish would be the way i would go. i have actally been thinking of doin a g50 next if i can't afford a y34. i think 18-19" is optimal.
scottleoneFebruary 10, 2008
#126704
if you send me your stock size and wheel width measurements i'll get you the right size for your tires
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if you send me your stock size and wheel width measurements i'll get you the right size for your tires
Bippu MaxFebruary 10, 2008
#126718
BLACKonBLACK98;126700 wrote:i dont see a lot of g50 pics, but dish would be the way i would go. i have actally been thinking of doin a g50 next if i can't afford a y34. i think 18-19" is optimal.


Yeah I guess I try to find some nice 18x8 and 18x10 dish for a good price.
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[QUOTE=BLACKonBLACK98;126700]i dont see a lot of g50 pics, but dish would be the way i would go. i have actally been thinking of doin a g50 next if i can't afford a y34. i think 18-19" is optimal.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I guess I try to find some nice 18x8 and 18x10 dish for a good price.
Bippu MaxFebruary 10, 2008
#126719
scottleone;126704 wrote:if you send me your stock size and wheel width measurements i'll get you the right size for your tires


I think the stocks are 15x6 or 7. 205/65/15 is the tire size that is on there now.
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[QUOTE=scottleone;126704]if you send me your stock size and wheel width measurements i'll get you the right size for your tires[/QUOTE]

I think the stocks are 15x6 or 7. 205/65/15 is the tire size that is on there now.
scottleoneFebruary 10, 2008
#126730
okay well using the formula for determining overall diameter and width, your tires are 25.5 in. in OD and about 8.1 in wide, plus sizing this to a 18 in would put you somewhere around a 225/45R18 for optimal height, width, and tire availability. some of the other sizes mentioned would work, but are not popular sizes, so limited availability would be a problem, as well as cost. 225/45R18 is the OE size on a couple of Mercedes and BMW applications as well as the Altima SE-R and the Z and G35 as well, so availability of tires in that size is usually very good. hope i was helpful.
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okay well using the formula for determining overall diameter and width, your tires are 25.5 in. in OD and about 8.1 in wide, plus sizing this to a 18 in would put you somewhere around a 225/45R18 for optimal height, width, and tire availability. some of the other sizes mentioned would work, but are not popular sizes, so limited availability would be a problem, as well as cost. 225/45R18 is the OE size on a couple of Mercedes and BMW applications as well as the Altima SE-R and the Z and G35 as well, so availability of tires in that size is usually very good. hope i was helpful.
Bippu MaxFebruary 10, 2008
#126731
scottleone;126730 wrote:okay well using the formula for determining overall diameter and width, your tires are 25.5 in. in OD and about 8.1 in wide, plus sizing this to a 18 in would put you somewhere around a 225/45R18 for optimal height, width, and tire availability. some of the other sizes mentioned would work, but are not popular sizes, so limited availability would be a problem, as well as cost. 225/45R18 is the OE size on a couple of Mercedes and BMW applications as well as the Altima SE-R and the Z and G35 as well, so availability of tires in that size is usually very good. hope i was helpful.


Thanx,the size that are them now are 255/45/18 that's the stock size for my X-runner.
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[QUOTE=scottleone;126730]okay well using the formula for determining overall diameter and width, your tires are 25.5 in. in OD and about 8.1 in wide, plus sizing this to a 18 in would put you somewhere around a 225/45R18 for optimal height, width, and tire availability. some of the other sizes mentioned would work, but are not popular sizes, so limited availability would be a problem, as well as cost. 225/45R18 is the OE size on a couple of Mercedes and BMW applications as well as the Altima SE-R and the Z and G35 as well, so availability of tires in that size is usually very good. hope i was helpful.[/QUOTE]

Thanx,the size that are them now are 255/45/18 that's the stock size for my X-runner.
scottleoneFebruary 10, 2008
#126759
yeah those would be a bit to wide and tall, people usually forget that the second # in tire sizing is an aspect ratio so a 45 series is different height depending on the first #.
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yeah those would be a bit to wide and tall, people usually forget that the second # in tire sizing is an aspect ratio so a 45 series is different height depending on the first #.
Bippu MaxFebruary 11, 2008
#126799
Yeah I had already put them on b4 the drop and they were already tounching the fenders,lol.
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Yeah I had already put them on b4 the drop and they were already tounching the fenders,lol.
Yokotas13February 11, 2008
#126831
195/40

i think someone makes it
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195/40
 
i think someone makes it
scottleoneFebruary 11, 2008
#126926
the biggest 195/40R!! i KNOW of is a 16 in., i could be wrong.
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the biggest 195/40R!! i KNOW of is a 16 in., i could be wrong.
Yokotas13February 11, 2008
#126929
i saw a 17, i almost bought it for a 9j
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i saw a 17, i almost bought it for a 9j
Yokotas13February 11, 2008
#126930
nvermind
205/40 is the biggest id go
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nvermind
205/40 is the biggest id go
Bippu MaxFebruary 11, 2008
#126969
So 205/40/18 would be the best look and fit?
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So 205/40/18 would be the best look and fit?
scottleoneFebruary 11, 2008
#126989
no there's nothing made in that size, like i said 225/45R18 focus on that size
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no there's nothing made in that size, like i said 225/45R18 focus on that size
Yokotas13February 11, 2008
#126998
yes htere is
205/40 is made by a number of people.
please dont speak if you dont know for sure.
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yes htere is
205/40 is made by a number of people.
please dont speak if you dont know for sure.
scottleoneFebruary 12, 2008
#127082
three companies i know of make that tire, yokohama, bridgestone, and michelin, and all the tires are close to if not over $200 per tire. this is one subject i know with almost absolute certainty. the sizing i gave him not only offers the most choice in an 18" rim size but stays closest to his O.E. overall height and diameter. please don't assume that because you have some knowledge on a subject that i don't. rubber is my whole life, i spend more time with tires than most people spend with entire cars.
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three companies i know of make that tire, yokohama, bridgestone, and michelin, and all the tires are close to if not over $200 per tire. this is one subject i know with almost absolute certainty. the sizing i gave him not only offers the most choice in an 18" rim size but stays closest to his O.E. overall height and diameter. please don't assume that because you have some knowledge on a subject that i don't. rubber is my whole life, i spend more time with tires than most people spend with entire cars.
Yokotas13February 12, 2008
#127101
obviously, you dont spend enough time

also Nankang AS1- 100 a tire
toyo- 150 a tire
nitto -180


no offense, but SOME doesnt quite cover my knowledge on wheels and tire fitment.
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obviously, you dont spend enough time
 
also Nankang AS1- 100 a tire
toyo- 150 a tire
nitto -180
 
 
no offense, but SOME doesnt quite cover my knowledge on wheels and tire fitment.
scottleoneFebruary 12, 2008
#127108
really what tread pattern does nankang make them in because i've never seen them in either tread design, if you don't believe me here's their website, http://www.tireco.com/PDF/2008%20Tireco%20Catalogue.pdf, you find it on there let me know. toyo and nitto may make an offering (i didn't bother to check) however it goes back to a cost factor, tires with that little sidewall are going to be ridiculously expensive, and NOT the right size for his car. theres no reason to even consider this size as it is predominantly a motorsports size and this is not a race car. i don't know if you're pushing this issue to try to prove me wrong but there's no real point to fighting over it. if you have a better size with more options and a better price point please feel free to put it up.
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really what tread pattern does nankang make them in because i've never seen them in either tread design, if you don't believe me here's their website, [url]http://www.tireco.com/PDF/2008%20Tireco%20Catalogue.pdf[/url], you find it on there let me know. toyo and nitto may make an offering (i didn't bother to check) however it goes back to a cost factor, tires with that little sidewall are going to be ridiculously expensive, and NOT the right size for his car. theres no reason to even consider this size as it is predominantly a motorsports size and this is not a race car. i don't know if you're pushing this issue to try to prove me wrong but there's no real point to fighting over it. if you have a better size with more options and a better price point please feel free to put it up.
Yokotas13February 12, 2008
#127113
205/40 is a 8j and 9j tire size on 18s.
You said there were only 3 high price name brands
I simply pointed out that was incorrect.
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205/40 is a 8j and 9j tire size on 18s.
You said there were only 3 high price name brands
I simply pointed out that was incorrect.
scottleoneFebruary 12, 2008
#127122
okay works for me
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okay works for me
OGFebruary 12, 2008
#127129
scottleone;127082 wrote:three companies i know of make that tire, yokohama, bridgestone, and michelin, and all the tires are close to if not over $200 per tire. this is one subject i know with almost absolute certainty. the sizing i gave him not only offers the most choice in an 18" rim size but stays closest to his O.E. overall height and diameter. please don't assume that because you have some knowledge on a subject that i don't. rubber is my whole life, i spend more time with tires than most people spend with entire cars.


it took me all of 10 seconds to find dunlop and nitto in 205/40 18. just because you have some experience with tires don't think you know it all. show me a vip car running oe overall diameter and i'll show you a clown. i don't even see where the op said it was an 8 inch wheel but it was never debated so; you're saying run a 225/40 18 on an 8" wide tire? i think you need to stop spending so much time with rubber and start learning about stance, fitment, and clearance. you're obviously way out of your league here.

i'm not gonna lie, your attitude really rubbed me the wrong way on this one.
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[quote=scottleone;127082]three companies i know of make that tire, yokohama, bridgestone, and michelin, and all the tires are close to if not over $200 per tire. this is one subject i know with almost absolute certainty. the sizing i gave him not only offers the most choice in an 18" rim size but stays closest to his O.E. overall height and diameter. please don't assume that because you have some knowledge on a subject that i don't. rubber is my whole life, i spend more time with tires than most people spend with entire cars.[/quote]
 
it took me all of 10 seconds to find dunlop and nitto in 205/40 18. just because you have some experience with tires don't think you know it all. show me a vip car running oe overall diameter and i'll show you a clown. i don't even see where the op said it was an 8 inch wheel but it was never debated so; you're saying run a 225/40 18 on an 8" wide tire? i think you need to stop spending so much time with rubber and start learning about stance, fitment, and clearance. you're obviously way out of your league here.
 
i'm not gonna lie, your attitude really rubbed me the wrong way on this one.
OGFebruary 12, 2008
#127131
i still say save your cash. the money you'll be looking at for (properly sized) tires is a good piece of some quality used wheels/tires.
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i still say save your cash. the money you'll be looking at for (properly sized) tires is a good piece of some quality used wheels/tires.
Yokotas13February 12, 2008
#127132
yeah, i didnt want to comment on OE diameter, but who hoenstly cares on this forum about OE diameter?

If you do, you souldnt be here
I eat through sidewalls, before my tread is at 80%.
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yeah, i didnt want to comment on OE diameter, but who hoenstly cares on this forum about OE diameter?
 
If you do, you souldnt be here
I eat through sidewalls, before my tread is at 80%.
Bippu MaxFebruary 12, 2008
#127179
Well I was gonn reuse the tires when I found some dish wheels but I guess I can stand rolling the J30 wheels for the time being. I had so many peopl asking me if I was on air today when I pulled up at my local tuning shop. I was like daym,I didn't think I was that low till I looked at the curb.

Being on stock 15s does have it's advantages after all,lol.

Ok,now somebody hook me up with some real wheels.
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Well I was gonn reuse the tires when I found some dish wheels but I guess I can stand rolling the J30 wheels for the time being. I had so many peopl asking me if I was on air today when I pulled up at my local tuning shop. I was like daym,I didn't think I was that low till I looked at the curb.

Being on stock 15s does have it's advantages after all,lol.

Ok,now somebody hook me up with some real wheels.
OGFebruary 12, 2008
#127180
fs section ftw!
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fs section ftw!
Bippu MaxFebruary 12, 2008
#127181
Yeah,I had a brain fart and forgot about that till after I posted,thanx man.
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Yeah,I had a brain fart and forgot about that till after I posted,thanx man.
OGFebruary 12, 2008
#127182
no prob, i went looking to see if there was anything i'd reccomend but didn't see anything that caught my eye. maybe something will catch yours though.
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no prob, i went looking to see if there was anything i'd reccomend but didn't see anything that caught my eye. maybe something will catch yours though.
Bippu MaxFebruary 12, 2008
#127183
Yeah,I didn't really see anything either. Too bad 17's would be too small,lol. I'm also trying to figure what will go well with dark green as well.
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Yeah,I didn't really see anything either. Too bad 17's would be too small,lol. I'm also trying to figure what will go well with dark green as well.
OGFebruary 12, 2008
#127188
polish/chrome would be my choice.
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polish/chrome would be my choice.
Yokotas13February 12, 2008
#127189
silver face

polish chrome is too much work to keep clean on ANY given day
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silver face
 
polish chrome is too much work to keep clean on ANY given day
Bippu MaxFebruary 12, 2008
#127190
That's what I was thinking. either all polished or chrome,or silver center with chrome polished lip. Thought bout black center but don't know how well that would play.
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That's what I was thinking. either all polished or chrome,or silver center with chrome polished lip. Thought bout black center but don't know how well that would play.
Bippu MaxFebruary 12, 2008
#127192
Yokotas13;127189 wrote:silver face

polish chrome is too much work to keep clean on ANY given day


Yeah,here in north Texas you can never count on the weather. Could be warm and sunny and as soon as you finish detailing the ride it will be a down pour,lol.
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[QUOTE=Yokotas13;127189]silver face
 
polish chrome is too much work to keep clean on ANY given day[/QUOTE]

Yeah,here in north Texas you can never count on the weather. Could be warm and sunny and as soon as you finish detailing the ride it will be a down pour,lol.
OGFebruary 12, 2008
#127195
i dont think black would look great. i mean it should look ok, but i'm not sure if it would be a vip look. black is the only color that can pull off black wheels imo.
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i dont think black would look great. i mean it should look ok, but i'm not sure if it would be a vip look. black is the only color that can pull off black wheels imo.
Bippu MaxFebruary 12, 2008
#127197
Same thing I was thinking. Was just a though since my gren is soooo dark.
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Same thing I was thinking. Was just a though since my gren is soooo dark.
DamicciFebruary 12, 2008
#127269
Polished face, polish or chrome lip. Polished anondized lip best thing since slice bread.
But I guess it depends on the look your going for. Good luck with everything.
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Polished face, polish or chrome lip. Polished anondized lip best thing since slice bread.
But I guess it depends on the look your going for. Good luck with everything.
scottleoneFebruary 12, 2008
#127340
BLACKonBLACK98;127129 wrote:it took me all of 10 seconds to find dunlop and nitto in 205/40 18. just because you have some experience with tires don't think you know it all. show me a vip car running oe overall diameter and i'll show you a clown. i don't even see where the op said it was an 8 inch wheel but it was never debated so; you're saying run a 225/40 18 on an 8" wide tire? i think you need to stop spending so much time with rubber and start learning about stance, fitment, and clearance. you're obviously way out of your league here.

i'm not gonna lie, your attitude really rubbed me the wrong way on this one.


honestly i wasn't giving anyone an attitude i was trying to put someone into something that would work best for there car. again you can find tires in that size, in my line of work i tell people there's nothing in a size when options are limited to a few brands with only one option in each. why everyone jumped down my throat for trying to help is a little ridiculous, just because i'm new to this board doesn't mean i'm new to cars. to be perfectly honest i recommended a 225/45R18 not a 40 series and i did it because i was under the impression that this was going to be a temporary fitment and he was looking for something inexpensive and readily available. if my advise is so bad then i won't give any and that'll be then end of it though.
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[quote=BLACKonBLACK98;127129]it took me all of 10 seconds to find dunlop and nitto in 205/40 18. just because you have some experience with tires don't think you know it all. show me a vip car running oe overall diameter and i'll show you a clown. i don't even see where the op said it was an 8 inch wheel but it was never debated so; you're saying run a 225/40 18 on an 8" wide tire? i think you need to stop spending so much time with rubber and start learning about stance, fitment, and clearance. you're obviously way out of your league here.
 
i'm not gonna lie, your attitude really rubbed me the wrong way on this one.[/quote]

honestly i wasn't giving anyone an attitude i was trying to put someone into something that would work best for there car. again you can find tires in that size, in my line of work i tell people there's nothing in a size when options are limited to a few brands with only one option in each. why everyone jumped down my throat for trying to help is a little ridiculous, just because i'm new to this board doesn't mean i'm new to cars. to be perfectly honest i recommended a 225/45R18 not a 40 series and i did it because i was under the impression that this was going to be a temporary fitment and he was looking for something inexpensive and readily available. if my advise is so bad then i won't give any and that'll be then end of it though.