Universal Air Suspension FAQs

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[quote=dbltakegs3;44344]applications LS400 ufc21 stock shocks
and gs300 jzs147 with JIC suspension
I kinda see how it is on stock shocks cuz u replace the whole spring assembly with the bag, but im confused on the coilover with airbag?[/quote]
 
It replaces out the spring for our air spring. The bag has a hole through the inside of it for the shock to slide through. There is an inner chamber so there is no air pressure against the shock body.... Think of it as a donut
 
[IMG]https://www.universalairsuspension.com/images/Picture-022.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=RaCinStylez;42418]I have an 01 ls430 ultra luxury.  What is included in the kit?  How would you rate the ride quality compared to airrunner?  Would I be able to install this kit myself, or would I have to send to a hydraulic/air suspension shop?[/QUOTE]

Our bags are designed for a mixture of sports handling and luxury ride.  Our system is "slighty stiffer" then Air Runner, but it will have less body roll and better high speed handling.

The "hardest" part about doing the install is fitting the bags on the shocks.  If you would like to pull the shocks off and send them in and we can fit the bags on for you.

good to know. but i still dont understand how the shock wont bottom out when you dump it while parked.

[QUOTE=antbo;44428]good to know. but i still dont understand how the shock wont bottom out when you dump it while parked.[/QUOTE]

The bags will fully compress down at 4"  if you have the coil nut say 3.5" down from the top of the pressure tube the shocks will be 1/2" away from bottoming out.  Talk to your coilover manufacture on how low you can "safely" run the shocks before having damage result.  A good rule of thumb is that the bumpstops that come with the coilovers will not allow for the shock to get damaged.


To view the inside of the bags and how they are designed you can view our patent [URL="http://www.universalairsuspension.com/on-road/images/universal_patent.pdf"]here[/URL]

[QUOTE=Universal Air;44434]The bags will fully compress down at 4"  if you have the coil nut say 3.5" down from the top of the pressure tube the shocks will be 1/2" away from bottoming out.  Talk to your coilover manufacture on how low you can "safely" run the shocks before having damage result.  A good rule of thumb is that the bumpstops that come with the coilovers will not allow for the shock to get damaged.


To view the inside of the bags and how they are designed you can view our patent [URL="http://www.universalairsuspension.com/on-road/images/universal_patent.pdf"]here[/URL][/QUOTE]

Thanks Zach! Couldn't of said it better myself! 

Here are some pics on how the coilover with bags are supposed to look like
[IMG]http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/ZensokuEk/UAS%20GB/CIMG1207.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/ZensokuEk/UAS%20GB/DCFC0123.jpg[/IMG]

So i CAN run my stock shocks? or should I change to aftermarket? If so, which brand would be best to use with this product.

1990 LS400 Lexus

[QUOTE=DriftGirl;45061]So i CAN run my stock shocks? or should I change to aftermarket? If so, which brand would be best to use with this product.

1990 LS400 Lexus[/QUOTE]


Hey! yes you can run your stock shock. It'll be a good ride.  But if you want an even BETTER ride you can use aftermarket shocks.  You can run tokico, kyb, or koni. Tokico and kyb are non-adjustable and konis are adjustable. Let me know which shocks you like more.

so you have to cut the shocks and retread the top in order to compensate the shock travel as stock, meaning once the height is set you cant go much higher or lower without losing shock travel?

no

the only thing the shocks are there for is the dampning element

if you didnt you would be bouncing around on just hte air. HTe shocks dampen the movement of the airbag so its not a crappy ride

with aftermarket, theoretically you can have a better or more performance oriented ride as well.

I stil hate it i cant use these.

I noticed on the application guide that it says for the q45 (assuming y33), its not using the same kindof airbag as in the front. The rear is just a bag that needs a cup instead of the front which uses the existing shock with the bag. Is this a typo or how does that bag work?

solely on air pressure

If im thinking right
check your rear, and the shock and spring might be in a separate place. in that case, the bag woudl replace the spring.

Nice pics of the UAS with aCoil-Over set-up.  If I am able to pick up a friends set up I will be combining it with my TEIN Super Wagon Coil-Over set up.  Looks like I got to take apart everything again.......Toyota designers screwed up when designing the EGG.  You got to take out the airbag(passenger side) and under dash(driverside) to get to the bolts that hold the shocks in place.  Not very user friendly.  Was hoping that once I got them in the first time I would never have to do it again..........that's what I get for not being patient and doing it right the first time.   

Sukoshiyoshi

[quote=sukoshiyoshi;47138]Nice pics of the UAS with aCoil-Over set-up. If I am able to pick up a friends set up I will be combining it with my TEIN Super Wagon Coil-Over set up. Looks like I got to take apart everything again.......Toyota designers screwed up when designing the EGG. You got to take out the airbag(passenger side) and under dash(driverside) to get to the bolts that hold the shocks in place. Not very user friendly. Was hoping that once I got them in the first time I would never have to do it again..........that's what I get for not being patient and doing it right the first time. 
 
Sukoshiyoshi[/quote]
 
Thats not the case with the 91-93 Previas. You can access the passenger side through the glove compartment. Although the 94-97 it is true that it can be a b*tch to take out. :smiley:

Yup yup mine is a 95.......not fun......looks like I will be cutting my knuckles again!!  I swear even after you take our the air bag/bottom dash it still is crazy hard to get you hands let a lone a wrench in there to loosen/tighten everything up!  You really got to have small hands to work on the EGG.

Sukoshiyoshi

is it possible to run these on a 98 acura 2.5 tl or they will not fit and air cylinders are the route to go. how would these hold up on winter grimy roads and temperatures of -30 degress celcius

What is the maximum weight these can handle?

Could you drive with 5 people and ride comfortably or will I have to drive very carefully?

You say we could just take the shock assembly out and bring it to UAS to get the bags fitted but how much is the charge?   I already got a quote from you guys for pretty much 1K for install so I'm guessing it should be less.

[QUOTE=DriftGirl;45061]So i CAN run my stock shocks? or should I change to aftermarket? If so, which brand would be best to use with this product.

1990 LS400 Lexus[/QUOTE]

Be carefull, the cap on the top of the shock body itself will rub the inner bag causing it to puncture. You NEED to grind the cap down to prevent the inner bag from tearing.

If you guys want to get this done the right way have them install.... i'm a do-it-yourselfer by all means but I won't save a buck in place of doing things right, I paid for the install even though my business partner has experience working on and installing these systems. I needed peace of mind, besides the guys over at UAS are dope as hell and will accomodate you with just about everything you need .... you truly do get what you pay for and in this case more. Just my 2¢..... [img]http://vipstylecars.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=SikNLow;47155]If you guys want to get this done the right way have them install.... i'm a do-it-yourselfer by all means but I won't save a buck in place of doing things right, I paid for the install even though my business partner has experience working on and installing these systems. I needed peace of mind, besides the guys over at UAS are dope as hell and will accomodate you with just about everything you need .... you truly do get what you pay for and in this case more. Just my 2¢..... [img]http://vipstylecars.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif[/img][/QUOTE]

plus if anything happens due to install error... they'll take care of it, hehe.

Ok I apoligize first hand because this may sound like a pretty dumb question......I have noticed in this post saying that it would probally be smarter to go with a aftermarket shock instead of using a coil-over type shock.  I am thinking about going with my TEIN Super Wagon Coil-Over set-up and using the UAS together.  As for the setting on my shocks......I should have it set at "full soft" (32 adjustable) to get the most life out of my shocks correct?  I figure that would be the obvious choice being that should make it easier for the shocks to compress compared to "full hard" setting with the bags fully deflated.

Thanks ahead of time......and be gentle.  LOL

Sukoshiyoshi

[QUOTE=car_lost;47209]plus if anything happens due to install error... they'll take care of it, hehe.[/QUOTE]

That's right and they are quick at it too... you can't go wrong believe me. You aren't only paying for an install, your also paying for peace of mind man believe me!

[QUOTE=Blitz;47151]

Could you drive with 5 people and ride comfortably or will I have to drive very carefully?

.[/QUOTE]

Yes...Rides  better with more weight/No

i was wondering what would be easier to install the bags on with shocks or coilovers? And wondering is it possible to install these yourself? has anyone does this before???

one thing that i noticed while doing my install in the front of my scion xB is unfortunately, you cant use the cusco camber plates with them, when I did, the bag rubbed on the inside of the strut tower, I'm not sure if any other cars do this as well, but just a heads up for you....by the way, its with the regular aero sport bag and i have kyb lowfer sport struts, just a heads up for anyhone planning on doing this, i'm using camber blots now to camber my front

[QUOTE=sukoshiyoshi;47218]Ok I apoligize first hand because this may sound like a pretty dumb question......I have noticed in this post saying that it would probally be smarter to go with a aftermarket shock instead of using a coil-over type shock.  I am thinking about going with my TEIN Super Wagon Coil-Over set-up and using the UAS together.  As for the setting on my shocks......I should have it set at "full soft" (32 adjustable) to get the most life out of my shocks correct?  I figure that would be the obvious choice being that should make it easier for the shocks to compress compared to "full hard" setting with the bags fully deflated.

Thanks ahead of time......and be gentle.  LOL

Sukoshiyoshi[/QUOTE]


i think that the shock body for the tein coil-overs is larger then 2.14" diameter causing the bag not to fit.  how can we get around that problem if we want to utilize our teins coil-over body.  i think i measured my tein shock body at 2.75-3"

how reliable is this system? is it prone to failures? i'm going to be all alone on this one since i'm not exactly local so i don't want to be SOL if it goes bad.

[QUOTE=thumper;50414]how reliable is this system? is it prone to failures? i'm going to be all alone on this one since i'm not exactly local so i don't want to be SOL if it goes bad.[/QUOTE]

As long as its installed some-what properly you shouldn't have any issues.  On my personal car we installed the system over 40k miles ago and we havn't messed with it since we installed it.

a good rule of thumb if your going to beat your system hard expect to replace the compressors after about 1 1/2 - 2 years.

is it compatible with tein CS v1.0 coilovers (lexus gs400)?

what is the typical installation time for a competent mechanic?

:thumbsup:  For universal suspension, there whole kit actually comes with everything you need. No need for anything else, except a shock.

this might be a stupid question, but i was wondering would there be an application for a 03' 3.2 tl-s.  and also if there is a way to apply bags on my current coilovers, tiens basics.

I've got a 94 gs300,and I'm gonna buy tein comfort sport coilovers.and I was wondering if your kits are compatible with those coilovers.and as for comfort and reliability,is it best to use aftermarket shocks or coilovers.thank you.

coilovers with bags are ideal but you'll be spending a grip of cash.

[QUOTE=BIGGZ JZS147;53734]I've got a 94 gs300,and I'm gonna buy tein comfort sport coilovers.and I was wondering if your kits are compatible with those coilovers.and as for comfort and reliability,is it best to use aftermarket shocks or coilovers.thank you.[/QUOTE]

my front bumper is still taking a beating.

at this point my options are to park on the street, move out, or get bags. Universal Air is sounding good due to their 3 year warranty and company reputation.

let's discuss this topic please.

[QUOTE=BIGGZ JZS147;53734]I've got a 94 gs300,and I'm gonna buy tein comfort sport coilovers.and I was wondering if your kits are compatible with those coilovers.and as for comfort and reliability,is it best to use aftermarket shocks or coilovers.thank you.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunally all of the Tein's that i have seen are just too big on the OD of the shock.  If you want to measure out to see the od on the threaded portion needs to be 2.14 or smaller.

Thanks for the info.I guess I'm not gonna buy teins.ill just save up and buy your kits.and if I use some aftermarket struts "kyb gr2" will that fit,and how low can I slam it.mahalo.

[QUOTE=QoozyFoozy;53773]my front bumper is still taking a beating.

at this point my options are to park on the street, move out, or get bags. Universal Air is sounding good due to their 3 year warranty and company reputation.

let's discuss this topic please.[/QUOTE]

he he he he you know you can't argue with these vids....... hopefully others enjoy these like you did and help them make a more informed decision. I think speed of operation is what most people wonder about and also the actual bounce factor while riding..... so that's why I give you these clickable movies in response:


[URL=http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/implicitautosports/?action=view&current=SANY0145.flv][IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/implicitautosports/th_SANY0145.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[URL=http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/implicitautosports/?action=view&current=SANY0156-1.flv][IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/implicitautosports/th_SANY0156-1.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

I am not on a traditional VIP platform but I have been looking for  an air kit to bag my 04 altima and tuck my 20's with. I have OEM replacement KYB shocks and struts and noticed the UAS site offers Altima kits. Is the altima kit offered in the GB and since I live in Texas and would have another shop do the install would it still be under the same 36k mile warranty?

I have a Q45 F50 with active suspension.  A shop said it would be a 4 day install.  Does that seem right?  How much $ would you say the install should be ( I know prices would vary but I want ballpark figures) and How long should the intall take with stock struts?

I've got another Q.can I use camber plates on my gs3.or does your kits come with them.because I seen a pic of "mrhappi" kit and I seen a pair of camber plates.mahalo.

Does anyone know the dimension for the air tank that comes with the kit.I've got a big subwoofer box in the trunk,and I was just wondering if the tank would fit in with the subs.thanks

I have a Y33 and I'm very interested in a UAS setup.  few questions though, how exactly is the ride height vs. full dump set?  Looking at the pics, seems like brackets need to be welded on the stock shocks?  Do instructions come with the kit?  Compared to the Y33 on your site, it's not nearly as low as I would like in the front.  I want my car to be slammed when dumped and ride low, not too worried about it going super high.  How will the bags affect wheel fitment?  and how loud are the compressors?  Will they be running all the time or can I go up/down a few times on a full tank?  Is there room to mount everything or at least the compressors underneath a Y33, to save my trunk space?  I've seen some talk about upgraded air management, what are my options?  Lastly, I'm not too worried about side to side, I just want up and down F&B.  Is there a simplified kit I can get?  The simpler the better for me since it's a DD.  Sorry for all the questions I have zero exp. with air, TIA

My main concern with Universal Air selling "kits" as a simple bolt-on solution for all these cars with their stock struts: those stock struts will ride pretty horribly at extremely lowered heights (and we know people are gonna drive their air suspension setups low), and then when the stock struts eventually die, the car will ride like shit, and unfortunately, people will blame the Universal Air suspension... and perpetuate the myth that air susp sucks. It's like how aftermarket air susp used to-and still does-get such a bad rap from lots of mini truck guys... but then you look at how they're using home depot valves and nylon water lines etc. you realize that it's ignorance that's spreading that heresy. Unfortunately, this is going to be another such instance... sure UnivAir will sell a lot of kits under the premise of a simple install, but at what cost in the long run when the name and whole concept of a "bolt-on" air suspension setup gets tarnished?

Im reading you can use aftermarket shocks like kyb, but can you use the kyb agx adjustable dampening w/ an air ride system? I plan to get an air ride kit for my car, but until then i need to replace my shocks cause they are going. I dont have the money yet for an air ride so I was planning to get the kyb agx and then use it on my air ride.....can you do that or will it not fit?

if you would have read the post i made on teh first page
the most OPTIMAL performace oriented suspension setup with this is a set of dual adjustable coilovers (height and preload seperate) so you can adjust your maximum height for low, and then release all the air for the slammed look
dampning would be outstanding controlling the bound and rebound of your shocks with the air, essentially making it an Infinately variable spring rate, which in theory, could be a great track setup as well....

i have yet to test it out...but i plan on it

if you want adjustable dampening and still be able to lay out custom bag struts are the wya to go. heres pics of some we built for an '05 STI w/ 10 way adjustability...

after getting the aero bag modified to my stock suspension (y33) would i'd still be able to switch out the stock struts for some aftermarket ones like the kyb sr's?

[QUOTE=callaghan.;57880]if you want adjustable dampening and still be able to lay out custom bag struts are the wya to go. heres pics of some we built for an '05 STI w/ 10 way adjustability...[/QUOTE]

that looks awesome, can you give some more info?  where do you get the bags and struts?  I can handle making custom brackets.  sorry if the thread is getting too off topic

[QUOTE=DaygoVIP619;58081]after getting the aero bag modified to my stock suspension (y33) would i'd still be able to switch out the stock struts for some aftermarket ones like the kyb sr's?[/QUOTE]

I think any aftermarket OEM replacement should work fine

I've got another q.will your bags work on any coilovers.I'm gonna buy Ksports coilovers and the shock bodys diameter is 50mm.so it should fit right?

Evening all, another noob question :smiley: 

Has anyone actually driven on these coilover/bag setups?

I'm interested in the handling difference between a full coilover setup and these as I have been known to go to the odd track day :thumbsup:

[QUOTE=Cranky;58875]Evening all, another noob question :smiley: 

Has anyone actually driven on these coilover/bag setups?

I'm interested in the handling difference between a full coilover setup and these as I have been known to go to the odd track day :thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

There are a few members here who have this setup. Ask 'SikNLow' with the G34 sedan.

there is a member here (solo) that has a coilover/uas setup. he hasent posted it on here tho. i jacked a pic tho (hope you dont mind solo).

[img]http://www.s2lstudio.com/car/airsus/images/airsus_09.jpg[/img]

Cheers for the replies, 

I'll send some pm's as I currently really like the ride a coilover setup gives but i'm stuck with how low I can go due to the bloody speed bumps round here :sad: :thumbsup:

I was wondering if they make a kit for the 99-04 honda odyssey's? Because I have seen kits on the Universal Air Japan website under "lagreat". Would you folks be able to get the kit from japan if I am interested?

[IMG]http://www.universalair-jp.com/image/car/h_lagreat.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=ex-r;59580]I was wondering if they make a kit for the 99-04 honda odyssey's? Because I have seen kits on the Universal Air Japan website under "lagreat". Would you folks be able to get the kit from japan if I am interested?

[IMG]http://www.universalair-jp.com/image/car/h_lagreat.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]



you can bag anything, there doesnt have to be a kit specifically for your car.

What comes with the kit for coilover users?

Also I was wonder probably stupid question but the rebound on coilovers is pretty low I don't know when you jack up a car on coilovers if the extension of the strut is fully extended or what but there is not alot extension travel on the strut. Like when you jack up a vehicle the wheel drops mayb 3 inches if they is fully extended, does this cause an issue with vehicles when your bags from what I have read can extend to 7 inches? 

Maybe this question doesn't make sense. I am just worried about incidently raising the vehicle higher than the max extended capacity for the coilover strut.

[QUOTE=DaygoVIP619;58081]after getting the aero bag modified to my stock suspension (y33) would i'd still be able to switch out the stock struts for some aftermarket ones like the kyb sr's?[/QUOTE]

yes

[QUOTE=cvc9216;58086]that looks awesome, can you give some more info?  where do you get the bags and struts?  I can handle making custom brackets.  sorry if the thread is getting too off topic[/QUOTE]

chapman (easy street) macpherson universal air strut kit

like this ?

[url]http://www.fbirides.com/product.asp?actiontype=flicks&idno=260401[/url]

[QUOTE=viplife;59682]chapman (easy street) macpherson universal air strut kit[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=QoozyFoozy;59707]like this ?

[url]http://www.fbirides.com/product.asp?actiontype=flicks&idno=260401[/url][/QUOTE]

sorta >like< that, but this is the actual product.

[url]http://www.easystreetair.com/browseproducts/McPherson-Universal-Rear-Strut-Kit.HTML[/url]

[QUOTE=viplife;59709]sorta >like< that, but this is the actual product.

[url]http://www.easystreetair.com/browseproducts/McPherson-Universal-Rear-Strut-Kit.HTML[/url][/QUOTE]

back on topic.

does uas warranty an aero bag that has been installed w/out the top/bottom steel plates, and under what conditions?

[QUOTE=viplife;59711]back on topic.

does uas warranty an aero bag that has been installed w/out the top/bottom steel plates, and under what conditions?[/QUOTE]


The bags have to be installed straight ontop of the shock.  If you just took out the spring and slide the bag over the shock it will be on there crooked and rip the inside of the bag.

We do not warranty against rubbing or crooked installation.

[QUOTE=BIGGZ JZS147;58801]I've got another q.will your bags work on any coilovers.I'm gonna buy Ksports coilovers and the shock bodys diameter is 50mm.so it should fit right?[/QUOTE]

Yes they should fit over.  As long as the OD on the coilover is 2.14 or smaller it will go though the bag.

Next question though, What kind of lexus do you have?

[QUOTE=Universal Air;59717]The bags have to be installed straight ontop of the shock.  If you just took out the spring and slide the bag over the shock it will be on there crooked and rip the inside of the bag.

We do not warranty against rubbing or crooked installation.[/QUOTE]

as people have posted pictures...  installing the bag-over in place of the 2.5" dia coil spring, between perches on a coilover setup, is covered against failure?

[QUOTE=viplife;59722]as people have posted pictures...  installing the bag-over in place of the 2.5" dia coil spring, between perches on a coilover setup, is covered against failure?[/QUOTE]

When ever you put it onto a coilover you always want to have mounts that will hold the bag solid.  If you tried to put it over where a 2.5" coil would sit its not going to fit good.  It will be very loose.  

On the CST coilovers shown earlier on the thread there is a plate that slides over the shock shaft that bolts to the bag to keep it centered and on the lower there is a plate that bolts to the bag and then a little tube that comes off the bottom and that tube goes into where the coil spring was on the coil nuts keeping everything straight.

[QUOTE=callaghan.;59615]you can bag anything, there doesnt have to be a kit specifically for your car.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, but I wanted a response from universal air. :) I don't want to have to piece everything together. I rather get a whole kit. Thanks though.

I've got a 94 gs300.

[quote=BIGGZ JZS147;59916]I've got a 94 gs300.[/quote]
 
The rear is different. The bags need to sit down at the bottom of the coilovers. Which ones are you looking at? Send me a private message with the picture. 
 
[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/DCFC0124.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=ex-r;59910]Thanks, but I wanted a response from universal air. :) I don't want to have to piece everything together. I rather get a whole kit. Thanks though.[/QUOTE]

For the oddy. you will need to grind the backside of the upper arm so that it doesnt rub against the bag.

How much fabrication is required for your system in a LS430? Is there welding required or just minor cutting of the spring support?

[QUOTE=sirdoc99;59972]How much fabrication is required for your system in a LS430? Is there welding required or just minor cutting of the spring support?[/QUOTE]

On an LS just notch out the lower spring pearch for the line to come through and if you want to lay it out lower you can cut the "cup" off the upper pearch that held the factory bump-stop.

[QUOTE=cvc9216;57340]I have a Y33 and I'm very interested in a UAS setup.  few questions though, how exactly is the ride height vs. full dump set?  Looking at the pics, seems like brackets need to be welded on the stock shocks?  Do instructions come with the kit?  Compared to the Y33 on your site, it's not nearly as low as I would like in the front.  I want my car to be slammed when dumped and ride low, not too worried about it going super high.  How will the bags affect wheel fitment?  and how loud are the compressors?  Will they be running all the time or can I go up/down a few times on a full tank?  Is there room to mount everything or at least the compressors underneath a Y33, to save my trunk space?  I've seen some talk about upgraded air management, what are my options?  Lastly, I'm not too worried about side to side, I just want up and down F&B.  Is there a simplified kit I can get?  The simpler the better for me since it's a DD.  Sorry for all the questions I have zero exp. with air, TIA[/QUOTE]I have the same questions to ask as well. I did come across the youtube page of what looks to be the Q45 in universalairsuspension.com's gallery.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=rpascua04[/url]

[QUOTE=Benji;60583]I have the same questions to ask as well. I did come across the youtube page of what looks to be the Q45 in universalairsuspension.com's gallery.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=rpascua04[/url][/QUOTE]

On that car we did not cut off the factory spring pearch.  The car sat nice and level at that height.  (front wheel wells are alot higher then rear).  Also the factory strut is formed with the spindle so if you ever want to go back to stock you would have to purchase a new strut/spindle assembly.  

Now if you want to drop it down lower you can cut off the stock spring pearch in the front and slide the bag down to where it sits right over the top of the tire.

[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/DSC00713.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Universal Air;60674]On that car we did not cut off the factory spring pearch.  The car sat nice and level at that height.  (front wheel wells are alot higher then rear).  Also the factory strut is formed with the spindle so if you ever want to go back to stock you would have to purchase a new strut/spindle assembly.  

Now if you want to drop it down lower you can cut off the stock spring pearch in the front and slide the bag down to where it sits right over the top of the tire.

[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/DSC00713.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

if the pictures you posted are the black car in the youtube videos, i think it is important to note that it is using an after market strut top.  any of these aftermarket units are much shorter than the oem mount, so if you plan to re-use the stock mount, dont forget to factor in the additional height.

what does the mount used on the bottom of the bag look like?  iirc the oem perch is not level.  and if the perch was removed, what would the bottom of the bag rest on?

id imagine at this point, if the OD of the strut casing was smaller than the ID of the pipe in the bag, you could spin a bushing that would rest on the top of the gland nut, and provide a perch for the bag to mount.  i don't think there is enough room for such a solution, where an even better solution would be to weld a threaded sleeve to the strut casing and make a new perch, threading the inside to mate with the sleeve.

and because you'd have the ability to place the bag lower than the top of the  tire/wheel, common sense would say to check your clearances, so not to rub the bag.

while the last two paragraphs have probably strayed away from the universal sense of this setup, i wonder...  if the perch was removed, what would the bottom of the bag rest on?

cause if you can remove the perch, and the bag just sits there, all that ive suggested is over engineering the solution.

[QUOTE=viplife;60739]if the pictures you posted are the black car in the youtube videos, i think it is important to note that it is using an after market strut top.  any of these aftermarket units are much shorter than the oem mount, so if you plan to re-use the stock mount, dont forget to factor in the additional height.

what does the mount used on the bottom of the bag look like?  iirc the oem perch is not level.  and if the perch was removed, what would the bottom of the bag rest on?

id imagine at this point, if the OD of the strut casing was smaller than the ID of the pipe in the bag, you could spin a bushing that would rest on the top of the gland nut, and provide a perch for the bag to mount.  i don't think there is enough room for such a solution, where an even better solution would be to weld a threaded sleeve to the strut casing and make a new perch, threading the inside to mate with the sleeve.

and because you'd have the ability to place the bag lower than the top of the  tire/wheel, common sense would say to check your clearances, so not to rub the bag.

while the last two paragraphs have probably strayed away from the universal sense of this setup, i wonder...  if the perch was removed, what would the bottom of the bag rest on?

cause if you can remove the perch, and the bag just sits there, all that ive suggested is over engineering the solution.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]https://www.universalairsuspension.com/images/01-st-f.JPG[/IMG]  To my knowlege the upper mount was the factory mount when the car came in.  We did not change the upper.  

On the bracket the tube shown in the picture slides over the shock and goes down to where the spring pearch is factory welded to the strut.  Then the bag plate goes ontop of the peice of tube so that the bag is straight on the strut even though the spring pearch itself is angled.

If you cut that spring pearch off and leave 1/4" around where its welded to the strut then cut down the peice of tube to move the bag down closer to the top of the tire the car will drop down lower.

[QUOTE=Universal Air;60740][IMG]https://www.universalairsuspension.com/images/01-st-f.JPG[/IMG]  To my knowlege the upper mount was the factory mount when the car came in.  We did not change the upper.  

On the bracket the tube shown in the picture slides over the shock and goes down to where the spring pearch is factory welded to the strut.  Then the bag plate goes ontop of the peice of tube so that the bag is straight on the strut even though the spring pearch itself is angled.

If you cut that spring pearch off and leave 1/4" around where its welded to the strut then cut down the peice of tube to move the bag down closer to the top of the tire the car will drop down lower.[/QUOTE]

got it.  dont remove the perch, just cut it down, leaving 1/4".

[QUOTE=viplife;60752]got it.  dont remove the perch, just cut it down, leaving 1/4".[/QUOTE]

Ive talked to the owner of the car and he will be out here next week.  we are going to cut off the pearch and drop it more.  I will take some pics and show you guys once we get it done.

[QUOTE=Universal Air;60758]Ive talked to the owner of the car and he will be out here next week.  we are going to cut off the pearch and drop it more.  I will take some pics and show you guys once we get it done.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I would greatly appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Universal Air;59729]When ever you put it onto a coilover you always want to have mounts that will hold the bag solid.  If you tried to put it over where a 2.5" coil would sit its not going to fit good.  It will be very loose.  

On the CST coilovers shown earlier on the thread there is a plate that slides over the shock shaft that bolts to the bag to keep it centered and on the lower there is a plate that bolts to the bag and then a little tube that comes off the bottom and that tube goes into where the coil spring was on the coil nuts keeping everything straight.[/QUOTE]

I've seen this plate as of now i've installed 2 Universal air systems. The plate fits "loose" around the shock shaft (1/4" play side to side if plate is centered on shock shaft). My question is: will warranty cover this if the provided plate/bag moves side to side because of this "play" and damage the inner portion of the bag? I mean I can't see any way to statically mount a areo sport bag causing it not to have any side/side play.

[QUOTE=Universal Air;60740][IMG]https://www.universalairsuspension.com/images/01-st-f.JPG[/IMG]  To my knowlege the upper mount was the factory mount when the car came in.  We did not change the upper.  

On the bracket the tube shown in the picture slides over the shock and goes down to where the spring pearch is factory welded to the strut.  Then the bag plate goes ontop of the peice of tube so that the bag is straight on the strut even though the spring pearch itself is angled.

If you cut that spring pearch off and leave 1/4" around where its welded to the strut then cut down the peice of tube to move the bag down closer to the top of the tire the car will drop down lower.[/QUOTE]

Are any of these "mount" and "tube" pieces coated with a rust preventative? i.e. zinc plating, powder coating ect? I am worried as living in hawaii I deal with rust on a day to day basis.

when the bag is fuhlly inflated at ride height
what is the width of it
it is like the stock shock width? liek a 65mm ID spring width or what?

[QUOTE=Universal Air;59968]For the oddy. you will need to grind the backside of the upper arm so that it doesnt rub against the bag.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. But I am still wondering if you folks can bring in the kit from Japan?
 On the US site, there is no odyssey.

Be careful when ordering these kits...they arent all "universal". we have an F50 we're using a kit on and htey sent the wrong setup for the rear. We  had it all apart and were ummmm this is such a bad way of doing it..as the spring is seperate from the shock. BUT, i spoke w/ them and they were really cool about it and are sending us the correct bags. So just make sure u let them know what your setup is before ordering the "universal" kit. Props to zach at UA for being cool as **** about it and helping us get the right parts quick!

[QUOTE=Yokotas13;60896]when the bag is fuhlly inflated at ride height
what is the width of it
it is like the stock shock width? liek a 65mm ID spring width or what?[/QUOTE]

the bag is pretty big, it's got about a 6" OD, so make sure your wheel wells can accommodate them.  as they deflate they roll nicely together.

here's a really old pic of mine:

[img]http://angrylife.com/temp/uas_bag.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=viplife;61432]the bag is pretty big, it's got about a 6" OD, so make sure your wheel wells can accommodate them.  as they deflate they roll nicely together.

here's a really old pic of mine:

[img]http://angrylife.com/temp/uas_bag.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

Please adjust the bag up so it won't rub on the wheels.  You really should run the brackets on the bags to keep them centered on the coilovers

[QUOTE=Universal Air;61437]Please adjust the bag up so it won't rub on the wheels.  You really should run the brackets on the bags to keep them centered on the coilovers[/QUOTE]

this is how i drove the car.  this was a very crude experiment, as i didn't know anyone else who had tried such a thing at the time.  there was no play over jic's g50 dampener.  the piping inside the bag did not easily fit over the strut.  i opted to force it, rather than grind the edges of the gland nut.  the bag didnt fold over enough to rub the wheel's edge.

i admit, the mounts weren't the best [after grinding into them to accommodate the fitting], but uas didn't have the "adapting mounts" they have today, and these bags are long gone.  i tried cylinders, then uas aero style bags, and neither worked well for my application.

i bought and used these bags in 2004, long before uas was targeting the "vip" market [imo].  i remember the sales representative told me that I MUST run the included mounting plates.  otherwise, really nice guys on the phone at uas.

in fact, i spoke with one sales rep [handling asia accounts] who mentioned they were trying to get an old q45 bagged, but were really still working on a solution.  he was quick to mention that these bags wouldn't work.

good suggestions for perspective buyers though!

[QUOTE=Benji;60583]I have the same questions to ask as well. I did come across the youtube page of what looks to be the Q45 in universalairsuspension.com's gallery.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=rpascua04[/url][/QUOTE]


[IMG]http://universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/DSC00691.jpg[/IMG]
Before



[IMG]http://universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/CIMG1775.jpg[/IMG]
After

Looks like a little difference but now I can drive with the front at the same height it was when I used to dump it before they cut perch's. And it feels alot lower when I drive.

[QUOTE=DEE;61822][IMG]http://universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/DSC00691.jpg[/IMG]
Before



[IMG]http://universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/CIMG1775.jpg[/IMG]
After

Looks like a little difference but now I can drive with the front at the same height it was when I used to dump it before they cut perch's. And it feels alot lower when I drive.[/QUOTE]

Still seems very high in the front for a y33. Here is a pic of another q45 that was posted by another member that was for sale on ebay. It looks alot lower then airunner or UAS setups. Supposably the car is on air.

[img]http://i10.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/9d/c7/d66a_12.JPG[/img]

[img]http://i9.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/9d/c7/c759_12.JPG[/img]

I know the pics are in the grass, but it seems much lower then the pics above.

[QUOTE=Lexbubba;62074]Still seems very high in the front for a y33. Here is a pic of another q45 that was posted by another member that was for sale on ebay. It looks alot lower then airunner or UAS setups. Supposably the car is on air.

[img]http://i10.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/9d/c7/d66a_12.JPG[/img]

[img]http://i9.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/9d/c7/c759_12.JPG[/img]

I know the pics are in the grass, but it seems much lower then the pics above.[/QUOTE]



much lower??? maybe 1- 1.5" lower than I am..He's also on dubs.

[QUOTE=DEE;62098]much lower??? maybe 1- 1.5" lower than I am..He's also on dubs.[/QUOTE]

Right, but isn't that a big difference? The fact that he is on dubs would make the overall car height higher.

[QUOTE=Lexbubba;62074]Still seems very high in the front for a y33. Here is a pic of another q45 that was posted by another member that was for sale on ebay. It looks alot lower then airunner or UAS setups. Supposably the car is on air.

[img]http://i10.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/9d/c7/d66a_12.JPG[/img]

[img]http://i9.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/9d/c7/c759_12.JPG[/img]

I know the pics are in the grass, but it seems much lower then the pics above.[/QUOTE]

He has smaller tires & bigger wheels

[QUOTE=Universal Air;62100]He has smaller tires & bigger wheels[/QUOTE]

 Even though the wheels are 20", its still lower. Look at the relationship from the stock sideskirt to the ground between the white one and black one. Could you make your q45 setup go this low?

[QUOTE=Lexbubba;60894]I've seen this plate as of now i've installed 2 Universal air systems. The plate fits "loose" around the shock shaft (1/4" play side to side if plate is centered on shock shaft). My question is: will warranty cover this if the provided plate/bag moves side to side because of this "play" and damage the inner portion of the bag? I mean I can't see any way to statically mount a areo sport bag causing it not to have any side/side play.[/QUOTE]

!

[QUOTE=Lexbubba;60895]Are any of these "mount" and "tube" pieces coated with a rust preventative? i.e. zinc plating, powder coating ect? I am worried as living in hawaii I deal with rust on a day to day basis.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Universal Air;60740][IMG]https://www.universalairsuspension.com/images/01-st-f.JPG[/IMG]  To my knowlege the upper mount was the factory mount when the car came in.  We did not change the upper.  

On the bracket the tube shown in the picture slides over the shock and goes down to where the spring pearch is factory welded to the strut.  Then the bag plate goes ontop of the peice of tube so that the bag is straight on the strut even though the spring pearch itself is angled.

If you cut that spring pearch off and leave 1/4" around where its welded to the strut then cut down the peice of tube to move the bag down closer to the top of the tire the car will drop down lower.[/QUOTE]

Are any of these "mount" and "tube" pieces coated with a rust preventative? i.e. zinc plating, powder coating ect? I am worried as living in hawaii I deal with rust on a day to day basis.

[QUOTE=Lexbubba;62108]Are any of these "mount" and "tube" pieces coated with a rust preventative? i.e. zinc plating, powder coating ect? I am worried as living in hawaii I deal with rust on a day to day basis.[/QUOTE]

paint them.

[QUOTE=Universal Air;62111]paint them.[/QUOTE]
Ok just wanted to clear up if they came with some sort of preventative. Thanks for clearing that up. So basically your on your own to prevent these pieces from rusting? So do you warranty these pieces also? If they rust out because a customer does not paint them will you cover that?

[QUOTE=Lexbubba;62114]Ok just wanted to clear up if they came with some sort of preventative. Thanks for clearing that up. So basically your on your own to prevent these pieces from rusting? So do you warranty these pieces also? If they rust out because a customer does not paint them will you cover that?[/QUOTE]

even if they are not painted you will be looking at about 20 years before they would be damaged from rust.  they are made out of 3/16" steel.

We leave them raw because some installers like to weld the OE bearing pearch on the top and on the lower's they sometimes weld them to the tube.  Last thing i want is a sick installer from trying to weld zinc.

[QUOTE=Lexbubba;62104]Even though the wheels are 20", its still lower. Look at the relationship from the stock sideskirt to the ground between the white one and black one. Could you make your q45 setup go this low?[/QUOTE]

Can't really tell because the grass. I know that the black on the front tires are like 1/16" away from the inner fenders.  enless you cut out the fenders there is no way to make the car's go lower.

If the black one was to change from his 35 series 19's to a 30 series 19 it would lower the car an inch because the overall height is less on the tire, the bag can be moved down 1/2" lower and the car will lowered 1/2" on the bottom side of the tire.

He could even go up to a 20" wheel and the body will stay at the same height just "tuck in" more of the wheel because the overall tire height will only inrease 1/4" with a 25 series on the 20"

its like the difference between these cars.  both are setup exactly the same way the only difference is that one has a 35 series and one has a 30 series

[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/Misc%20073.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/Picture5.jpg[/IMG]

Then the next question is how is the angle of the picture.
[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/DSC01658.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/DSC01656.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/photo%20shoot%20031.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/photo%20shoot%20036.jpg[/IMG]

the black ***** on Asanti's is ****in gorgeous.

for the y33 q45, does universal air utilize the upper stock strut mounts ?

or do they fabricate their own ?

[QUOTE=QoozyFoozy;62612]for the y33 q45, does universal air utilize the upper stock strut mounts ?

or do they fabricate their own ?[/QUOTE]

On the one above that used the stock strut mounts.

any kits for the 08 scion XB yet? 

I can get a kit from a first gen XB and looks like it can work..

would guyhappen to know if the strut on the TC is the same.. I know that the TC front spring will fit the 08 xb.

[QUOTE=backstb01;49747]i think that the shock body for the tein coil-overs is larger then 2.14" diameter causing the bag not to fit.  how can we get around that problem if we want to utilize our teins coil-over body.  i think i measured my tein shock body at 2.75-3"[/QUOTE]

So you cant slide the bags over the Tein Coilover bodies?

[QUOTE=tiNy;66072]So you cant slide the bags over the Tein Coilover bodies?[/QUOTE]


It will slide over on the CS series however it wont on the flex series.

[QUOTE=eight08customs;65570]any kits for the 08 scion XB yet? 

I can get a kit from a first gen XB and looks like it can work..

would guyhappen to know if the strut on the TC is the same.. I know that the TC front spring will fit the 08 xb.[/QUOTE]


Yes Fabulous did one about a year ago with our kit.  
[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/P10103022.jpg[/IMG]

They used just our regular Xb kit.

We havn't personally done a TC here yet so i am not sure.

What about the super street kit?

[quote=Universal Air;50502]As long as its installed some-what properly you shouldn't have any issues. On my personal car we installed the system over 40k miles ago and we havn't messed with it since we installed it.
 
a good rule of thumb if your going to beat your system hard expect to replace the compressors after about 1 1/2 - 2 years.[/quote]
 
 
What shocks are you using?
Are there kits for the IS300?

[quote=tiNy;66504]What about the super street kit?[/quote]
yes, what about the Tein SS kit?  Its taking so long to get my air runners in...I'm thinking about getting these

what is the lowest you can go and still be able to daily drive it without hurting the bags and lowering realibilty? I dont want to drive around like a 4x4. I would like a nice lowered stance during daily driving and slammed when parked.

[QUOTE=4DRIS;68993]What shocks are you using?
Are there kits for the IS300?[/QUOTE]

On this car we used the OEM shocks.  

[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/101_1969.jpg[/IMG]

Yes we have a kit avail for the is300

why did you guys use the OEM shocks on that IS300? there are aftermarket options for that

[QUOTE=speedaddict;69180]yes, what about the Tein SS kit?  Its taking so long to get my air runners in...I'm thinking about getting these[/QUOTE]

If you can measure the OD on the threaded body i can make sure that the bag will fit over them.  

For the IS/GS setups i will need you to send the rear coilovers in if the bags will fit over to do some modification to them if they move the coil from the bottom of the shock to the top.

I know that they will fit over the CS series but will not fit over the Flex series.

[QUOTE=car_lost;69307]why did you guys use the OEM shocks on that IS300? there are aftermarket options for that[/QUOTE]

That is what the customer wanted us to do.  A majority of customers do not change the shocks when they install our bag setup.

[QUOTE=//935GS400;69233]what is the lowest you can go and still be able to daily drive it without hurting the bags and lowering realibilty? I dont want to drive around like a 4x4. I would like a nice lowered stance during daily driving and slammed when parked.[/QUOTE]

I usually suggest driving at about an inch over the top of the front tire.  You can drive anywhere between all the way up and all the way down.

[quote=Universal Air;69309]If you can measure the OD on the threaded body i can make sure that the bag will fit over them. 
 
For the IS/GS setups i will need you to send the rear coilovers in if the bags will fit over to do some modification to them if they move the coil from the bottom of the shock to the top.
 
I know that they will fit over the CS series but will not fit over the Flex series.[/quote]
 
 
What is this "OD" you keep bringing up. Along with the 2.14? Is that in inches? Thanks
 
For the IS.  IS the stock shocks okay with that setup.  Will I need to change it later down the road?  
IS there a place here in WA state that does them?   This IS my daily drive and I dont think I can send you my rear coilovers. :(

[quote=Universal Air;50502]As long as its installed some-what properly you shouldn't have any issues. [B][COLOR=darkorange]On my personal car we installed the system over 40k miles ago and we havn't messed with it since we installed it.[/COLOR][/B]
 
a good rule of thumb if your going to beat your system hard expect to replace the compressors after about 1 1/2 - 2 years.[/quote]
 
 
 
I was meaning what shocks did you use on your personal car?  Thanks for the pic of the IS3

[QUOTE=4DRIS;69373]What is this "OD" you keep bringing up. Along with the 2.14? Is that in inches? Thanks
 
For the IS.  IS the stock shocks okay with that setup.  Will I need to change it later down the road?  
IS there a place here in WA state that does them?   This IS my daily drive and I dont think I can send you my rear coilovers. :([/QUOTE]


The OD means Outside Diameter.  I would prefer if its 2.14" or smaller in diameter because the Inside Diameter of the bag is just over 2.14"

shocks are no different then before.  They will still be a normal wear-and-tear item and you would want to replace them out like you would a normal shock if you still had springs on them.

[QUOTE=4DRIS;69379]I was meaning what shocks did you use on your personal car?  Thanks for the pic of the IS3[/QUOTE]

Personally i am running the OEM 300 SRT-8 shocks made by bilstien.

My friend has a kit on his 350Z and it goes up and down pretty fast.I personally don't want it that fast.so how could I slow it down.use 3/8 lines?and if so can I purchase a kit with 3/8 lines from you.I plan to order a kit next month.thanks.

[QUOTE=Universal Air;69309]If you can measure the OD on the threaded body i can make sure that the bag will fit over them.  

For the IS/GS setups i will need you to send the rear coilovers in if the bags will fit over to do some modification to them if they move the coil from the bottom of the shock to the top.

I know that they will fit over the CS series but will not fit over the Flex series.[/QUOTE]

I just tried to put the bags over the SS and they will not fit. So SS will not work.

Man the more I read the more I want. You havent done a Lexus ES300 or a Toyota Camry or Solara yet have you? Both the V6 Camry and the Solara have compatible suspension parts with my ES300. Just wondering. 

-Smitty

How much camber does the Q45 get when its on full down?  Especially the front. The rear can always be adjusted with aftermarket RUCA's.

[QUOTE=PagongLS;71976]How much camber does the Q45 get when its on full down?  Especially the front. The rear can always be adjusted with aftermarket RUCA's.[/QUOTE]

With the way the front suspension is do not plan on it cambering.  Typically its like 1/2-1 degree of camber not even noticeable.  The rear will camber in though.

[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/CIMG1778.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Smitty;70234]Man the more I read the more I want. You havent done a Lexus ES300 or a Toyota Camry or Solara yet have you? Both the V6 Camry and the Solara have compatible suspension parts with my ES300. Just wondering. 

-Smitty[/QUOTE]

We have done many Camry/solara's  They work really good!

i have bought bags from universal air.. awesome guys. im doing volkswagens though

how do these bags hold up to the elements... For the winter season I plan on just having them raised all the way up to have as much ground clearance as possible, no playing around with them, just constant up.  Will the freezing weather decrease the life of the bags or make them more susceptible to failing?

[QUOTE=rollingwithdubz;75206]how do these bags hold up to the elements... For the winter season I plan on just having them raised all the way up to have as much ground clearance as possible, no playing around with them, just constant up.  Will the freezing weather decrease the life of the bags or make them more susceptible to failing?[/QUOTE]

As far as normal elements and the bags its not going to be an issue.  Now as far as the air management system that will freeze.  To prevent this go to a semi-truck supply company and pickup thier additive that they use inside thier air brake system to prevent the water inside the system from freezing.

So what kit should I buy if I want to use it on my Y33?  Can I get a link?  I know i'll need some shocks..can I use KYB's or what can I use?  Also ANYTHING else important i'll need.  What about those perch things?  Do you still have to make those?

hey guys, with UAS.

am I limited to only full down and full up (for driving).

can I have it set to 3 settings, full down, low and full up ?

[QUOTE=QoozyFoozy;77999]hey guys, with UAS.

am I limited to only full down and full up (for driving).

can I have it set to 3 settings, full down, low and full up ?[/QUOTE]

No you can go anywhere inbetween all the way up and and down.  If you wish to have 3 programmable presets then we will need to go with the dakota digital auto-leveling kit for the control.  

Typically you would set it up for a super low driving, regular driving and all the way up for driveways/speed bumps.  It also has a dump feature built in for when you want to drop it.

I don't want to go with a digital controller, I'd have to manually set each corner riight ? 

so basically with analog controller, without looking at guage, the two quickest settings would be full up and full down right ? 

[quote=Universal Air;78007]No you can go anywhere inbetween all the way up and and down.  If you wish to have 3 programmable presets then we will need to go with the dakota digital auto-leveling kit for the control.  

Typically you would set it up for a super low driving, regular driving and all the way up for driveways/speed bumps.  It also has a dump feature built in for when you want to drop it.[/quote]

[QUOTE=QoozyFoozy;78010]I don't want to go with a digital controller, I'd have to manually set each corner riight ? 

so basically with analog controller, without looking at guage, the two quickest settings would be full up and full down right ?[/QUOTE]

Yes it would have to be done manually.  Now you will have the switch control box that will do each corner, front, back, all, right, left on thier own switches.

You can hold it down for all up, then say tap the back down 3 times and front 2 or what ever you like for a height.

got it.

damn, I wanna hit the switches and hear that   "pssss"  "pssssss"    "psssss" .

I'm so sick and tired of having to remove the wheels and adjusting the coilovers. just plain sick of it.

I hate this VSC forum, I gotta stop this over indulgence. :smiley::shrug:

Just wondering .. i choose to run one compressor of the 2 of the Viair dual 380c system.. 
 
How long does it take it to fill a 5 gal tank.. i was wating and waiting over 10 min.. and it still didnt kick off..

[quote=eight08customs;79707]Just wondering .. i choose to run one compressor of the 2 of the Viair dual 380c system.. 
 
How long does it take it to fill a 5 gal tank.. i was wating and waiting over 10 min.. and it still didnt kick off..[/quote]
 
 
12 mins i think.....

Ok i posted this in the general section of the forum, but was told to put it in here...
 
I want to know what height/psi is equivelant to coilover stiffness (i.e. less than 1" travel on bumps, cornering, braking etc). Also, how many more inches can it be raised from that point?
 
Ideally i want at least 2" more travel after it achieves coilover stiffness. That way i can set drive height to be about 1" from laying frame, yet still *just* make it in my driveway. Otherwise i might as well stay with coilovers!
 
 
Oh, for simplicity's sake my car is almost identical to a Y33 (weight, suspension configuration). So is it possible??

[QUOTE=Dominik;80181]Ok i posted this in the general section of the forum, but was told to put it in here...
 
I want to know what height/psi is equivelant to coilover stiffness (i.e. less than 1" travel on bumps, cornering, braking etc). Also, how many more inches can it be raised from that point?
 
Ideally i want at least 2" more travel after it achieves coilover stiffness. That way i can set drive height to be about 1" from laying frame, yet still *just* make it in my driveway. Otherwise i might as well stay with coilovers!
 
 
Oh, for simplicity's sake my car is almost identical to a Y33 (weight, suspension configuration). So is it possible??[/QUOTE]


What kind of coilovers do you have?  The bag's force is 15 lbs per psi with a 200 lbs/inch at a static rate (constant pressure).  Now when your talking dynamic (driving) the volume of air you have between the valves and the bags will determin how progressive the rate becomes because when you compress the bag the volume will decrease and the pressure will increase.   

To make a long story short, The closer the valves, the stiffer the ride, further away the softer the ride.

Ok guys with Q45's on air, how and where do you set your PSi for optimal daily driving?
 
Mine is a "bit bouncy" for my liking and would want to find out where the best setting is...maybe close to factory ride.

Hi, thanks for the reply. My coilovers are JIC SF1s (non damper adjustment, only perch height adjustment). Going by what info i can find, the springs are 7kg/mm (390 lb/in) front and 5kg/mm (280 lb/in) rear. This gives a firm but comfortable ride. I would want the air to have at least that rate for the airbags
 
Since the static rate is only 200lb/in i guess i would be relying on the highly progressive nature of air to give me the stiffness i require? (that and placing the valves very close to the bags)

Ive read of someone running into problems installing UAS in their accord.  Systyem didnt go right on and had to send back a couple parts back and forth.  Im assuming it was because of the car so would I have any issues installing UAS on an LS400.  It will be getting installed by a proffesional but I dont want my car down for 1 month due to issues with the system.

If you have to ASK, get a professional to do it.

[QUOTE=JGC;83820]Ive read of someone running into problems installing UAS in their accord.  Systyem didnt go right on and had to send back a couple parts back and forth.  Im assuming it was because of the car so would I have any issues installing UAS on an LS400.  It will be getting installed by a proffesional but I dont want my car down for 1 month due to issues with the system.[/QUOTE]

That is because they did not want to modify run the aero sports and they wanted cylinders for the car and we had to order them in.  The LS400 is a very easy install where you just replace out the coils for the bags over the factory struts.  If you want we can even setup the bags over a set of replacement struts for you if you would like.

I gigured it was becuase of the car. Thanks alot and i'll be ordering my kit within the next couple of weeks.:biggthumpup:

i was wondering which dakota digital kit do you reccomend. the kit with just the pressure sensors or the kit with the  ride height sensors or the kit with both?  also does it take the place of the control box provided with the uas kit or can it be used along with it.  im currently in the process of purchasing a new car and if i get it i would like to use this setup. i like the features of the dd kits especially to set a ride hight and get it aligned to prevent premature tire wear.

[quote=Pagong;82598]Ok guys with Q45's on air, how and where do you set your PSi for optimal daily driving?
 
Mine is a "bit bouncy" for my liking and would want to find out where the best setting is...maybe close to factory ride.[/quote]
40psi noramlly

[QUOTE=ICEDOWT;136667]i was wondering which dakota digital kit do you reccomend. the kit with just the pressure sensors or the kit with the  ride height sensors or the kit with both?  also does it take the place of the control box provided with the uas kit or can it be used along with it.  im currently in the process of purchasing a new car and if i get it i would like to use this setup. i like the features of the dd kits especially to set a ride hight and get it aligned to prevent premature tire wear.[/QUOTE]



Alot of it depends on your application.  If its for a car, that takes less then 150 psi to lift then i recommend going with the psi based unit.  Those are ideal for an easy install and as long as the weight doesn't change drastically. (like a limo or truck for hauling).  If it takes more then 150 psi to lift or weight changes alot then you want to go with the height sensors,  But they are alot harder to install because you have to connect from the suspension arm to the body.

Yes it will replace out the control box in our kits.  When you purchase a kit and upgrade to the DD autoleveling we remove the switch box and put in the wireless keyfob remote.

glad i went through these 8 pages, learned a lot except for the g50, wanna run z32 tokico's non adjustables, or q45 (if there is an application for it). does anyone have a UAS setup on their g50. trying to learn as much as i can before i spend anything.

what all do i need to put bags on my coilovers? i have all the air management and the coilovers themselves, i just need the bags/brackets/etc.

[quote=ricky cash;139017]glad i went through these 8 pages, learned a lot except for the g50, wanna run z32 tokico's non adjustables, or q45 (if there is an application for it). does anyone have a UAS setup on their g50. trying to learn as much as i can before i spend anything.[/quote]

+1

Was wondering if the bags are able to fit over Tein SS coilovers? Is the CS the same version?
 
edit:
 
Found out that the SS and CS coilovers are not the same
 
 
What all do I get with this kit?  
Is there any Mods that I need to know about, goint with Stock Shock setup?

hey i have a 2gen gs400 and i would like to know if the kit works better on aftermarket shocks or a full coilover setup? how much would it cost me to send you guys the coilover or shock so you guys can install the bag since i read that it sometimes doesnt go in that easy. i was planning on using the nex gt coilover system.

[quote=4DRIS;153190]Was wondering if the bags are able to fit over Tein SS coilovers? Is the CS the same version?[/quote]
shock body of 2.14 or shorter. from what i've seen teins don't work but you might want to measure to be sure.

has a uas system worked on a 2001 Jagaur X J before? ( my 935  post! woot woot! )

[QUOTE=//935GS400;154137]has a uas system worked on a 2001 Jagaur X J before? ( my 935  post! woot woot! )[/QUOTE]

we have done the x-type

[url]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/on-road/gallery.php?sid=46&cid=25[/url]

That's an S-Type.

hi Mr. Universal,

I have a Lexus GS300 1993, and would like to use the UAS bags.  I was curious if UAS has specific bracket plates or is it all just universal?  

Also, with these plates do they just sit on the shock? meaning no welding involved? (I would assume no because its a pressurized tube) and if they do just sit, they wont wobble or anything? 

thank you in advance :)

[QUOTE=GS400DiPPiN;153209]hey i have a 2gen gs400 and i would like to know if the kit works better on aftermarket shocks or a full coilover setup? how much would it cost me to send you guys the coilover or shock so you guys can install the bag since i read that it sometimes doesnt go in that easy. i was planning on using the nex gt coilover system.[/QUOTE]

i have UAS installed on my 2nd gen GS400. i am running it with Bilstein Sports Struts because i want a fairly stiffer ride then stock.  i am loving the kit. one thing i did when i used the bilsteins is replace the lower spring purch

[img]http://limitlessmotorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/air-026.jpg[/img]

in to this (custom CAD designed and had a machine shop machine it.)

[img]http://limitlessmotorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/air-021.jpg[/img]

[img]http://limitlessmotorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/air-023.jpg[/img]

pretty much this allowed the over all height about 1 to  1.5 inch lower. so i need more pressure to get to the drive height which means stiffer ride :) 

just thought i would share.

hey Shane,

Does that ring/perch just sit on the shock or does it actually have a stopper of some sort?

by the looks of it...that ring is probably sitting on a c-clamp

umm...im new to this, but what c-clamp? I dont see one? I dunno..

there is a c-clamp (its just a little lip that sticks out all the way around the strut body) around the bilstein strut. the "ring/perch" you see sits right on top. its fits very snug. 

you can see the cut out for where it sits.
[img]http://limitlessmotorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/air-014.jpg[/img]

I was looking on the Universal Air website at the 2nd Gen GS installation gallery.

Is the lower mount shown included in the kit? The one that attaches around the mounting eyelet on the shock.

If so, I'm guessing you get rid of the adjustment rings if using a coilover, as they are redundant. The lower mount of the bag is set, because the lower mount is attached directly to the base of the shock.

With other coilover/bag setups, you can set the dropped height by adjusting the height of the bag, as its mounted on the adjustment platform rings.

Am I understanding this right?

[QUOTE=ShaneC;156802]there is a c-clamp (its just a little lip that sticks out all the way around the strut body) around the bilstein strut. the "ring/perch" you see sits right on top. its fits very snug. 

you can see the cut out for where it sits.
[img]http://limitlessmotorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/air-014.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

AHHHH!! Now I understand..

and with the UAS bags, the bracket plates goes on top of that? am I correct or wrong? Please correct me.. :)

thank you for the explanation :)

[QUOTE=hondaboi;156972]AHHHH!! Now I understand..

and with the UAS bags, the bracket plates goes on top of that? am I correct or wrong? Please correct me.. :)

thank you for the explanation :)[/QUOTE]

correct.

kool...thanks Shane :)

has anyone tired to use UAS bags on the f50 sport shocks?

[QUOTE=A8VIP;156866]I was looking on the Universal Air website at the 2nd Gen GS installation gallery.

Is the lower mount shown included in the kit? The one that attaches around the mounting eyelet on the shock.

If so, I'm guessing you get rid of the adjustment rings if using a coilover, as they are redundant. The lower mount of the bag is set, because the lower mount is attached directly to the base of the shock.

With other coilover/bag setups, you can set the dropped height by adjusting the height of the bag, as its mounted on the adjustment platform rings.

Am I understanding this right?[/QUOTE]

Anyone have any feedback re: my query?

Redundancy is never a bad thing when dealing with safety=) Keeping the lower adjustment ring will give u more control over the system anyway.

[QUOTE=DriftGirl;158353]Redundancy is never a bad thing when dealing with safety=) Keeping the lower adjustment ring will give u more control over the system anyway.[/QUOTE]

That's what I mean, there is no provision to keep any adjustment rings on the shock body, since the bag fits to a bracket directly attached to the bottom shock eyelet.

Which means it makes the coilover platform redundant, you might as well use a shorter non-coilover shock?

[quote=ShaneC;156376]i have UAS installed on my 2nd gen GS400. i am running it with Bilstein Sports Struts because i want a fairly stiffer ride then stock. i am loving the kit. one thing i did when i used the bilsteins is replace the lower spring purch
 
[IMG]http://limitlessmotorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/air-026.jpg[/IMG]
 
in to this (custom CAD designed and had a machine shop machine it.)
 
[IMG]http://limitlessmotorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/air-021.jpg[/IMG]
 
[IMG]http://limitlessmotorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/air-023.jpg[/IMG]
 
pretty much this allowed the over all height about 1 to 1.5 inch lower. so i need more pressure to get to the drive height which means stiffer ride :) 
 
just thought i would share.[/quote]
 
my god, you are truely a smart man...
:signdammit:
 
 
so now that my bilsteins are gone, and now that i have tein cst's that literally cost 2x as much out of my pocket for the same thing, if i remove one of the adjustable perches off of my coilover, does that mean i get to go another 1/2-1" lower????? cst's dont have height adjustment so i am limited to what i can work with

Anything for MB C Class/W203? thanks :biggthumpup:

anybody have KYB SR shocks with UAS?

I know that there was talk of a smaller diameter bag that would be able to be used on Acura RL/TL without modification but have they come to light yet?  Any word on the progress of them?

Has anyone tried installing UAS on Tein SS coilovers????

[QUOTE=brudda2;163149]Has anyone tried installing UAS on Tein SS coilovers????[/QUOTE]

I heard it does not fit due to the diameter of the shock tube.

have to be 2.14" or less :)

:biggthumpup:[quote=simpl cb7;139436]+1[/quote]

Has anyone run these bags on a G50 or Z32 or skyline for that matter???  Seems like it'd be a close fit in with the front suspension.  Thought about ordering a single bag to check but never did.  Anyone have any info.  I know they have part numbers for kit parts, but I don't know if they've ever been fitted to car. I'm not scared to cut shit and make new arms, but if I have to re-engineer any front suspension arms to clear the bags,  it may not be worth the time for me for this particular car.    I know rear will fit no problem. Thanks.

[quote=hondaboi;163268]I heard it does not fit due to the diameter of the shock tube.

have to be 2.14" or less :)[/quote]
Can someone confirm?

Yes it has to be 2.14 or less

So no Teins

Tein comfort sports are I beleive the only Teins that fit on uas bags.

I tried to send a PM to Universal Air but your mail box is full. 

What will I need to run the Canover air suspension setup on my SC300. I just want a basic setup for now and I'll upgrade things here and there later. I was wondering if I can get a full list of parts and prices that I need to get a system running. Thanks!

[quote=brudda2;163149]Has anyone tried installing UAS on Tein SS coilovers????[/quote]


we tried it the other day after we pulled a uas kit off a tl and we had a the tein ss to put in.   the shock tube was way to big

[quote=Lexus Soarer;168206]I tried to send a PM to Universal Air but your mail box is full. 
 
What will I need to run the Canover air suspension setup on my SC300. I just want a basic setup for now and I'll upgrade things here and there later. I was wondering if I can get a full list of parts and prices that I need to get a system running. Thanks![/quote]
 
 
Canover is a different brand of Air Suspension. with Canover you just select the model and it bolts right in. 
 
PM 'Hoebag', he had a Canover setup on his SC :biggthumpup:

oops I meant I want to go with the air cylinders that has offers.

No problem :) 
 
Would prolly be a good idea to start a SOARER specific thread because there are many options with our cars. :biggthumpup:

Im such a newb when it comes to air suspension. I thought there were about 4 or 5 different options out there. Im looking to put this together myself. But I for sure want to go with cylinders instead of bags. UAS is my choice. Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=GS400DiPPiN;153209]hey i have a 2gen gs400 and i would like to know if the kit works better on aftermarket shocks or a full coilover setup? how much would it cost me to send you guys the coilover or shock so you guys can install the bag since i read that it sometimes doesnt go in that easy. i was planning on using the nex gt coilover system.[/QUOTE]

For a 2nd gen it would be ideal for either a regular aftermarket shock or a regular coilover.  Try and stay away from the "double tapped" ones because you will most likely have to shorten the bottom mount because the coilover companies like to move the coil from the bottom up to the top and the bags won't clear the car body up at the top.

In the past we have done a sandwich style bracket for the Tein CS's to move the bag back down to the bottom.

[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/DSC_0274.jpg[/IMG]

If you can send is a coilover we can build the brackets or do what ever it would take to make it work...

[QUOTE=ShaneC;156376]i have UAS installed on my 2nd gen GS400. i am running it with Bilstein Sports Struts because i want a fairly stiffer ride then stock.  i am loving the kit. one thing i did when i used the bilsteins is replace the lower spring purch

[img]http://limitlessmotorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/air-026.jpg[/img]

in to this (custom CAD designed and had a machine shop machine it.)

[img]http://limitlessmotorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/air-021.jpg[/img]

[img]http://limitlessmotorsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/air-023.jpg[/img]

pretty much this allowed the over all height about 1 to  1.5 inch lower. so i need more pressure to get to the drive height which means stiffer ride :) 

just thought i would share.[/QUOTE]


That is a very good way to mount the bag on there.  What we use for the Bilstien shocks is our 300/magnum/charger lower plate that has the groove cut in there for the sirclip just like how your lower spacer was.  That works very well aslong as you have the bracket slide over the clip so that it can't open up and pop off the shock.

[QUOTE=A8VIP;156866]I was looking on the Universal Air website at the 2nd Gen GS installation gallery.

Is the lower mount shown included in the kit? The one that attaches around the mounting eyelet on the shock.

If so, I'm guessing you get rid of the adjustment rings if using a coilover, as they are redundant. The lower mount of the bag is set, because the lower mount is attached directly to the base of the shock.

With other coilover/bag setups, you can set the dropped height by adjusting the height of the bag, as its mounted on the adjustment platform rings.

Am I understanding this right?[/QUOTE]

That is a bracket setup that we have made for the Tein CS's.  The reason is because we have to move the bag back down to the bottom of the shock where it was at origionally because upto there isn't enough room for the bag to clear the shock tower.

up in the front you can change the bag height by moving it up/down on the coil nuts.  On the 2nd/3rd gen GS/SC and IS you have to move the bag to the bottom of the rear.  For the 1st gen GS/SC and all LS the bag will be at the top so you can keep the height adjustable with the coilovers.

[QUOTE=nssbnz;159439]Anything for MB C Class/W203? thanks :biggthumpup:[/QUOTE]

We have done them in the past, there is some pictures up in our gallery.  But, Installation in the front is a PITA because they don't have an upper mount like most cars, its just a bushing that is sandwiching the cars strut tower, so it takes some work to get the to drop decent.  (tucking the top of the tire in the front is about all to expect)

[QUOTE=0psi;162624]I know that there was talk of a smaller diameter bag that would be able to be used on Acura RL/TL without modification but have they come to light yet?  Any word on the progress of them?[/QUOTE]

We havn't finished them yet,  To be honest with you they are really on the back burner....

[QUOTE=statepolice!;167573]:biggthumpup:

Has anyone run these bags on a G50 or Z32 or skyline for that matter???  Seems like it'd be a close fit in with the front suspension.  Thought about ordering a single bag to check but never did.  Anyone have any info.  I know they have part numbers for kit parts, but I don't know if they've ever been fitted to car. I'm not scared to cut shit and make new arms, but if I have to re-engineer any front suspension arms to clear the bags,  it may not be worth the time for me for this particular car.    I know rear will fit no problem. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Our Universal Air Japan has done them in the past, but we havn't done any here.

[QUOTE=Lexus Soarer;168206]I tried to send a PM to Universal Air but your mail box is full. 

What will I need to run the Canover air suspension setup on my SC300. I just want a basic setup for now and I'll upgrade things here and there later. I was wondering if I can get a full list of parts and prices that I need to get a system running. Thanks![/QUOTE]

Sorry i have cleaned out some space in there.

We don't carry any of Canover's cylinders.

[QUOTE=Lexus Soarer;168279]oops I meant I want to go with the air cylinders that has offers.[/QUOTE]

I would highly recommend against air cylinders.  They don't have the reliability or the ride quality of an air bag.

Edit:
Here is a Soarer that our Universal Air Japan has done.

[IMG]http://www.universalair-jp.com/image/car/t_soarer.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Universal Air;169321]That is a bracket setup that we have made for the Tein CS's.  The reason is because we have to move the bag back down to the bottom of the shock where it was at origionally because upto there isn't enough room for the bag to clear the shock tower.

up in the front you can change the bag height by moving it up/down on the coil nuts.  On the 2nd/3rd gen GS/SC and IS you have to move the bag to the bottom of the rear.  For the 1st gen GS/SC and all LS the bag will be at the top so you can keep the height adjustable with the coilovers.[/QUOTE]

Do you have a pic of a fully assembled rear strut with a big fitted, b/c I can't get the image right in my head! lol

[QUOTE=A8VIP;169934]Do you have a pic of a fully assembled rear strut with a big fitted, b/c I can't get the image right in my head! lol[/QUOTE]

Here is a pic for the CS Coilover on the GS

[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/IMG_3774_med.jpg[/IMG]

Very interesting setup with the lower bracket.

There has been plenty of talk lately of whether UAS will work on F50 Q45.  I remember widebodyQ ran them for a day and switched to a custom setup.  

I have an 02 Q45 without the active suspension.  Will UAS work for me on the stock struts?  Do you have a source for some aftermarket struts for the F50 like KYB?

[QUOTE=Universal Air;170201]Here is a pic for the CS Coilover on the GS

[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/IMG_3774_med.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Ya know what, that still doesn't help, I must be REALLY dumb! lol

Does the coilover spring then sit on top of the bag? Or are the springs eliminated?

Looking at the pic, it seems that the top of the bag attaches to the strut body, which would then make the mag redundant, since the top and bottom of the bag are attached to the same section of the shock?

Sorry if I'm missing the obvious!

[quote=AME_VIP;170302]Very interesting setup with the lower bracket.

There has been plenty of talk lately of whether UAS will work on F50 Q45.  I remember widebodyQ ran them for a day and switched to a custom setup.  

I have an 02 Q45 without the active suspension.  Will UAS work for me on the stock struts?  Do you have a source for some aftermarket struts for the F50 like KYB?[/quote]
x2

do you guys us the relay box that comes in the kit for the compressors???

cause im using the viair replay box to power up my compressor but i keep burning up the relay boxes..seems like the relay cant handle the amp load from the compressors..should i use a heavier duty relay box??

This post is for a VIP-In-Tranning just thought I would help him out since he can't post with the big kids yet but he is looking for info: 

if you could let him know a response in his thread. Thanks guys.
[url]http://www.vipstylecars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12240[/url]


Sup guys, I recently picked up my uncles 98 lexus gs400 in PRESTINE condition with only 40,000 miles on her and always garaged. Well anyway, as far as major mods go, im not sure where to begin. I would love to get some air ride suspension on her but i love the ride it has already and not sure if i want to screw it up. If I do i would use the stock shocks and was thinking about the UAS group buy for only 2 grand :) The fall back to the air ride is im from boston and thise being my daily driver, in the winter ive heard of bags poppin due to the freezing cold and was wondering if anyone knew about this?

[QUOTE=jaynick808;171170]x2[/QUOTE]


We havn't done the newer Q45 here at our shop, however we have had a few customers do them, they said that its very similar to the older ones just a little different on the brackets.

[QUOTE=drifto808;171417]do you guys us the relay box that comes in the kit for the compressors???

cause im using the viair replay box to power up my compressor but i keep burning up the relay boxes..seems like the relay cant handle the amp load from the compressors..should i use a heavier duty relay box??[/QUOTE]

We also carry the 80 amp solenoids.  The relays usually work fine as long as you have 1 per compressor.  If you try and run 2 compressors on 1 relay you will always burn them out.

If you are running 1 per compressor then you really need to check your voltage.  If you voltage is low, it will pull ALOT more amps, run slower, and damage the compressors.

[QUOTE=Gao Jian;172868]This post is for a VIP-In-Tranning just thought I would help him out since he can't post with the big kids yet but he is looking for info: 

if you could let him know a response in his thread. Thanks guys.
[url]http://www.vipstylecars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12240[/url]


Sup guys, I recently picked up my uncles 98 lexus gs400 in PRESTINE condition with only 40,000 miles on her and always garaged. Well anyway, as far as major mods go, im not sure where to begin. I would love to get some air ride suspension on her but i love the ride it has already and not sure if i want to screw it up. If I do i would use the stock shocks and was thinking about the UAS group buy for only 2 grand :) The fall back to the air ride is im from boston and thise being my daily driver, in the winter ive heard of bags poppin due to the freezing cold and was wondering if anyone knew about this?[/QUOTE]

He actually already PM'ed me, so i thought that i would post it in here if you guys are wondering the same thing.

[QUOTE=Universal Air][QUOTE=luda42688]Hello, I'm not sure if you're the right person that would know this but since i believe you sell these and since you have a lot of answers in the uas faq thread that i have a question that hopefully you can answer.
 
Since i'm from Boston, in the winters the temperatures drop below freezing and I have heard that sometimes during cold temps that bags pop or the system malfunctions. I have a 98 lexus gs400 and would like to bag it but if the bags are imn danger of popin during the cold months i dont want to waste my money.
 
Thank you for your time.
nick[/QUOTE]

Nick,

That is a very good concern.  yes in the extreme cold you can run into issues with air suspension if you don't plan ahead.  With our systems what can happen is when ever you compress air in general you will always get condinsation inside the air system.  Now there is a few things that you can do to try and prevent it, like water traps etc, but no matter what you do you will always have water inside the system.  

Now with our its designed around having the water inside there and it won't damage anything, but over the winters it can freeze inside the valves causing them to get stuck shut. 

There is a very easy fix for this though,  at the start of your "winter" season pickup some "air brake antifreeze", its an additive that all the semi trucks run in thier braking system to prevent the same thing from happening.  Basically at the start of your winter season release all the air out, pull off one of the lines and pour some into the air tank.  From there it will get distributed out to the rest of the air system and prevent the water from freezing.[/QUOTE]

what would you guys suggest for mounting a aero sport on a MacPherson front suspension, that uses a gland nut to hold down the strut insert?

i was hoping to just slide the bag over, but the gland nut is larger than 2.14".  not sure if i should modify the gland nut or maybe i could mount the bag above the nut. maybe run the UAS bearing/pivot thingy?

[QUOTE=Eggman;198045]what would you guys suggest for mounting a aero sport on a MacPherson front suspension, that uses a gland nut to hold down the strut insert?

i was hoping to just slide the bag over, but the gland nut is larger than 2.14".  not sure if i should modify the gland nut or maybe i could mount the bag above the nut. maybe run the UAS bearing/pivot thingy?[/QUOTE]


How much larger is the nut then 2.14"  Typically its just a matter of grinding down the nut to allow for it to fit inside the bag, but, if it would require to grind down so far that its not possible to take it off, then down the road you won't be able to replace your strut inserts.

If you mount the bag above that section of the strut then the car won't have much of drop.

[quote=Eggman;198045]what would you guys suggest for mounting a aero sport on a MacPherson front suspension, that uses a gland nut to hold down the strut insert?
 
i was hoping to just slide the bag over, but the gland nut is larger than 2.14". not sure if i should modify the gland nut or maybe i could mount the bag above the nut. maybe run the UAS bearing/pivot thingy?[/quote]
 
just grind it down.. I just did a previa that had the same problem..  i dont think that cap is holding anything.. unless you can unscrew it and is threaded.. 
 
If not just go buy some new struts prob anout 60 bucks or so might as well change it while you have it out and doing the install.. Im sure those are old already and make sure the new one has the sleaves that oyu can knock off..

if i grind the corners off, i won't be able to wrench that cap off. 

not sure what you guys are talking about, replacing the strut insert, would still require me to run a gland nut.

[quote=Eggman;198312]if i grind the corners off, i won't be able to wrench that cap off. 
 
not sure what you guys are talking about, replacing the strut insert, would still require me to run a gland nut.[/quote]
 
 
I this might sound getto/ half ass/  but just use a pipe wrench to loosen and tightem that nut after.. you got do what you gotta do the get those bags on. it will still be safe.. 
 
im sure you wont be always changing out the cartidges..

[QUOTE=Eggman;198312]if i grind the corners off, i won't be able to wrench that cap off. 

not sure what you guys are talking about, replacing the strut insert, would still require me to run a gland nut.[/QUOTE]

What kind of car is it for?

so let me get this right. On a 99 LS400 all I have to do to put the bags on my stock sturts is pull the coils off and pop the bags on? any pics of an Ls400? Thanks

also does this kit come with valves? If so what kind? And what size? thanks

I'm about to purchase a UAS kit for my 01 C320 (w203). I'm thinking about going with an after market shock, but not sure what brand yet. I understand all shock will eventually bottom out if you keep riding real low. My question is what brand will likey to take more beating for riding low? Tokico, KYB, Koni, or Blistein?

[quote=20sburning;200401]also does this kit come with valves? If so what kind? And what size? thanks[/quote]
 
check your PM!

[QUOTE=jdm_gadget;200590]I'm about to purchase a UAS kit for my 01 C320 (w203). I'm thinking about going with an after market shock, but not sure what brand yet. I understand all shock will eventually bottom out if you keep riding real low. My question is what brand will likey to take more beating for riding low? Tokico, KYB, Koni, or Blistein?[/QUOTE]


It all depends on how you want to do your setup.  If your "okay" with doing some slight modifications to the car, we can get them to drop very low.  But, you would have to do some trimming on the upper strut tower, the OEM upper strut mount is a huge bushing that goes into a peice of sheet metal that hangs down.  If you remove that. drill 3 holes and go with our billet upper mounts for the 300's you can move the entire bag/strut assembly up a few inches and it will make the car go down alot lower.  That way you won't be bottoming out the struts.

You can run any of those brands, just make sure that the bag will fit over them (2.14 or smaller for the Outside diameter on the shock body)

[quote=Universal Air;200685]It all depends on how you want to do your setup.  If your "okay" with doing some slight modifications to the car, we can get them to drop very low.  But, you would have to do some trimming on the upper strut tower, the OEM upper strut mount is a huge bushing that goes into a peice of sheet metal that hangs down.  If you remove that. drill 3 holes and go with our billet upper mounts for the 300's you can move the entire bag/strut assembly up a few inches and it will make the car go down alot lower.  That way you won't be bottoming out the struts.

You can run any of those brands, just make sure that the bag will fit over them (2.14 or smaller for the Outside diameter on the shock body)[/quote]

Thanks for the info, that was real helpful. I didnt know with some modification I can drop my front alot more. I'm still having problem deciding which brand shock to go with :shrug:. I personally never tried any of those.

[QUOTE=jdm_gadget;200879]Thanks for the info, that was real helpful. I didnt know with some modification I can drop my front alot more. I'm still having problem deciding which brand shock to go with :shrug:. I personally never tried any of those.[/QUOTE]

Personally i am very partial to the Koni Sport line because they are adjustable rebound and decently priced compaired to like a Coilover with adjustable dampening.

[quote=Universal Air;200948]Personally i am very partial to the Koni Sport line because they are adjustable rebound and decently priced compaired to like a Coilover with adjustable dampening.[/quote]

This might be a dumb question. If I set the Koni to very stiff, will it damage the shock or slow down the drop when I play with the air bags?

[QUOTE=jdm_gadget;201002]This might be a dumb question. If I set the Koni to very stiff, will it damage the shock or slow down the drop when I play with the air bags?[/QUOTE]


Dropping it won't affect anything because its the Rebound that is being adjusted.  Koni's compression is fairly soft so it will absorb up the bumps, but stiffer "slower" rebounding so that way the car doesn't keep bouncing.  When you think of "stiff" while taking about dampers keep in mind its not going to make the ride harsh, its just slowing down the movement more.

It will make your car lift slower if the dampers are set stiffer.

[quote=Universal Air;201016]Dropping it won't affect anything because its the Rebound that is being adjusted.  Koni's compression is fairly soft so it will absorb up the bumps, but stiffer "slower" rebounding so that way the car doesn't keep bouncing.  When you think of "stiff" while taking about dampers keep in mind its not going to make the ride harsh, its just slowing down the movement more.

It will make your car lift slower if the dampers are set stiffer.[/quote]


Are you using Koni Yellow on your 300c as well? How many second does it take for you to go from pancake to full height?

[QUOTE=jdm_gadget;201146]Are you using Koni Yellow on your 300c as well? How many second does it take for you to go from pancake to full height?[/QUOTE]


Yes i am using the "yellow" sport damper.  It takes less then a second to lift, but i did notice it was "slower" lifting over the OEM struts.

When you said a second, do you mean it only take less then a second to lift from pancake to full height? That's pretty quick :biggthumpup:

I've been looking at the new Tokico shocks for my IS350, but cannot find a solid answer on how big the shock body is. UAS do you know if its less than the 2.14 recommended by you guys?

[QUOTE=iSuxeL;205001]I've been looking at the new Tokico shocks for my IS350, but cannot find a solid answer on how big the shock body is. UAS do you know if its less than the 2.14 recommended by you guys?[/QUOTE]

I dont know exactly what the size is, but from my experience the only shocks that are larger then 2.14 is the Tein Flex and some McPhearson Struts.  I have never seen a standard strut, other then the Flex, that is larger then 2.14"

On my setup, I had to grind down the shock for the bag to slip over.

Has anybody used the UAS bags on the Stance coilovers? Will the bags fit over the shock?

Just recently my suspension just started making a clunk everytime I go up from slammed. Is this normal? I checked and everything looks fine, only thing I notice is that there is play with the bag, meaning in a circular motion.

[QUOTE=iSuxeL;211580]Just recently my suspension just started making a clunk everytime I go up from slammed. Is this normal? I checked and everything looks fine, only thing I notice is that there is play with the bag, meaning in a circular motion.[/QUOTE]

The play that your seeing in the bag is that with the car layed out or if its jacked up?  With the weight on the car the bags should not move.

Typically a noise while lifting the bags is from the internal bellow unfolding.  If you drop it down to 0 psi sometimes they will make noise when they are aired up.  If you leave say 10-20 psi in the bag and air it up does it still make the noise?

When doing a hybrid setup, does the spring perch have to be low enough for the bag to fill at its max or can I set it all the way down ?

BTW it doesn't make a noise when there is air in the bags. Only going from full slam.

[QUOTE=iSuxeL;212361]When doing a hybrid setup, does the spring perch have to be low enough for the bag to fill at its max or can I set it all the way down ?

BTW it doesn't make a noise when there is air in the bags. Only going from full slam.[/QUOTE]


With the Coilover/Bag setup you can adjust the bag height (except on the IS/GS/SC rear) to achive the drop or the lift that you would like.

When its airing up from all the way down, its the bag unfolding. (internal chamber)

So once I get coils I can just put the perch all the way down without problems right?

[QUOTE=iSuxeL;213087]So once I get coils I can just put the perch all the way down without problems right?[/QUOTE]

What kind of car is it for?  You want to adjust the coilovers to have the bag be fully compressed with the car is all the way dropped otherwise you will loose lift.

Its for a IS350.

[QUOTE=iSuxeL;213671]Its for a IS350.[/QUOTE]


Make sure that the coilovers that your choosing are not a double adjustable.  You will need to move the bag down to the bottom of the coilover if, on thier coilovers they are moving the spring up to the top.  The only one that i have seen that doesn't move the coil up is Tanabe.  Also I have spoken with them and by thier measurements our bags will fit right over thier threaded body's.

[IMG]http://www.tanabe-usa.com/suspension/files/506_img1.jpg[/IMG]

Well once I put the bag over the strut won't it go to the bottom already? So these are good correct? I also spoke with Zack and he was very helpful and called them as well.

[QUOTE=iSuxeL;213766]Well once I put the bag over the strut won't it go to the bottom already? So these are good correct? I also spoke with Zack and he was very helpful and called them as well.[/QUOTE]

From the way that it looks in the pic, it looks like you are going to want to have it bottomed out,  that will get you the lowest.

This is Zack :wavey:

[quote=Universal Air;201016]Dropping it won't affect anything because its the Rebound that is being adjusted.  Koni's compression is fairly soft so it will absorb up the bumps, but stiffer "slower" rebounding so that way the car doesn't keep bouncing.  When you think of "stiff" while taking about dampers keep in mind its not going to make the ride harsh, its just slowing down the movement more.

It will make your car lift slower if the dampers are set stiffer.[/quote]
but that is all relative to the damper being used

if you use Ksport, or other low end coilover an the compression and rebound damping is horrible, then its going to be super stiff no matter what. and the ride will be harsh

But if you get a better coilover/strut (like koni) that is more performance oriented VS cheap oriented you will be very happy.

[quote=Universal Air;213781]From the way that it looks in the pic, it looks like you are going to want to have it bottomed out,  that will get you the lowest.

This is Zack :wavey:[/quote]
LOL I had a feeling it was you :smiley-rofl:ok I guess I just wait for the coils to come! I can't wait to be laid out! haha:biggthumpup:

Im looking to get a set for my 00' Diamante.  I have a lot of experience assembling/disassembling/reassembling suspension setups, so I'm comfortable with that.  My two questions are:
1 - No welding is required for a good install right?
2 - The most cutting I'm looking at (on the strut assemblies) would be trimming down the lower spring perch to allow for a lower drop, right?

Hey Zack, I sent you an email.

Thanks,
Grant.

[QUOTE=rollingwithdubz;216153]Im looking to get a set for my 00' Diamante.  I have a lot of experience assembling/disassembling/reassembling suspension setups, so I'm comfortable with that.  My two questions are:
1 - No welding is required for a good install right?
2 - The most cutting I'm looking at (on the strut assemblies) would be trimming down the lower spring perch to allow for a lower drop, right?[/QUOTE]

Personally i am not familar with the Diamante.  Can you send over some suspension pictures then i can tell you exactly what it would take.

[email]Zack@universalairsuspension.com[/email]

yea, def, I'll get those to you in a few days. Thanks man

seen this setup on the 350z forum... I like it

has anyone have or done a setup with Megan Lps'?

or does anyone know if the OD is less than 2.14?

i was also looking at JIC. if OD is small enough is it worth spending the extra g on them instead of the megans?

its for my 94 LS400

I have a 1996 Honda Odyssey.  I do not foresee any issues installing a bag setup in the front, but the rear suspension poses a couple problems.  I would like the car to maintain some camber, but the rear shock sits perilously close to the knuckle, and I'm fearing that installing a bag over the shock would make it impossible for me to fit a decent wheel on the car that would clear the shock/bag configuration.  Any advice on rear suspension configurations I could go with?  Or should I just fabricate new upper mounts for the rear shocks that are closer to the body of the vehicle, allowing for better clearance (I would need to order smaller shocks from another vehicle to make that work).

[QUOTE=toyomatt84;218111]I have a 1996 Honda Odyssey.  I do not foresee any issues installing a bag setup in the front, but the rear suspension poses a couple problems.  I would like the car to maintain some camber, but the rear shock sits perilously close to the knuckle, and I'm fearing that installing a bag over the shock would make it impossible for me to fit a decent wheel on the car that would clear the shock/bag configuration.  Any advice on rear suspension configurations I could go with?  Or should I just fabricate new upper mounts for the rear shocks that are closer to the body of the vehicle, allowing for better clearance (I would need to order smaller shocks from another vehicle to make that work).[/QUOTE]

any chance you can send over a picture of the rear suspension?

[email]Zack@universalairsuspension.com[/email]

[QUOTE=Universal Air;218181]any chance you can send over a picture of the rear suspension?

[email]Zack@universalairsuspension.com[/email][/QUOTE]

I sent you larger versions of these photos to your email:

[IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/2r4rf2q.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i43.tinypic.com/5cgg0g.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=toyomatt84;218471]I sent you larger versions of these photos to your email:
[/QUOTE]

I would go with an Air House 2 bag in the rear,  As far for your shock.  It almost looks like your wheel will start to get into the subframe/inner wheel wells before it it will come in contact with the shock.

[QUOTE=Universal Air;218474]I would go with an Air House 2 bag in the rear,  As far for your shock.  It almost looks like your wheel will start to get into the subframe/inner wheel wells before it it will come in contact with the shock.[/QUOTE]

Well, my pictures aren't the greatest, admittedly.  But, the wheel does come in contact with the shock before the inner panels.  Even at what I'll be considering "full camber", it wasn't in contact with the sub-frame.  I did some mock-testing before the snow started to fall.  The wheels I'll be going with are 18" in diameter, versus those in the picture which are 15"x6".

[QUOTE=toyomatt84;218477]Well, my pictures aren't the greatest, admittedly.  But, the wheel does come in contact with the shock before the inner panels.  Even at what I'll be considering "full camber", it wasn't in contact with the sub-frame.  I did some mock-testing before the snow started to fall.  The wheels I'll be going with are 18" in diameter, versus those in the picture which are 15"x6".[/QUOTE]

The only other real option would be to relocate the shocks.  You can possible move the inboard a little on the arm, but i think thats not going to give you the room that you would need at the top.

The only other options, that i know you won't like, would be to see about going backwards with the shock off the arm, and cut a hole through the floor board and run the shocks through,  Or, doing a cantilever with a pivot on the subframe and linkage down to the arm... Not an easy deal...

[QUOTE=toyomatt84;218477]Well, my pictures aren't the greatest, admittedly.  But, the wheel does come in contact with the shock before the inner panels.  Even at what I'll be considering "full camber", it wasn't in contact with the sub-frame.  I did some mock-testing before the snow started to fall.  The wheels I'll be going with are 18" in diameter, versus those in the picture which are 15"x6".[/QUOTE]

Hows is the offset on the wheels?  Do they push the wheel further in then the stocks?

[QUOTE=Universal Air;218479]Hows is the offset on the wheels?  Do they push the wheel further in then the stocks?[/QUOTE]

The backspacing is about 5.6" for the stock wheels, and about 6" for the wheels I'm going with.  So, only slightly closer to the shock itself.

As far as fabrication goes, I have no problem tearing the wheel wells up and welding in new ones, along with new lca's and upper shock mounts if necessary.  I was just wondering if you guys had some experience with the layout, and advice to follow.  I prefer to do my research, before diving into a project of this magnitude.

[QUOTE=toyomatt84;218485]The backspacing is about 5.6" for the stock wheels, and about 6" for the wheels I'm going with.  So, only slightly closer to the shock itself.

As far as fabrication goes, I have no problem tearing the wheel wells up and welding in new ones, along with new lca's and upper shock mounts if necessary.  I was just wondering if you guys had some experience with the layout, and advice to follow.  I prefer to do my research, before diving into a project of this magnitude.[/QUOTE]

It all is going to depend on how much camber you go with and how far in the wheel will get to the shock... I personally havn't done one, so i can't tell you what to do for sure....

[QUOTE=Universal Air;218506]It all is going to depend on how much camber you go with and how far in the wheel will get to the shock... I personally havn't done one, so i can't tell you what to do for sure....[/QUOTE]

That's fair.  I'm fairly certain you'll hear from me in the Spring, when I'm ordering suspension components. :)

Hey Zack, do you know what coils you can use for a GS300? I finally got the coils installed and now I tuck! :biggthumpup:

[QUOTE=iSuxeL;221491]Hey Zack, do you know what coils you can use for a GS300? I finally got the coils installed and now I tuck! :biggthumpup:[/QUOTE]

coils? or coilovers?  Which year GS? 1st gen or 2nd/3rd gen?

Coils = coilovers :biggthumpup: its the 2nd gen. I was referring to use it with the UAS bags.

[QUOTE=iSuxeL;221793]Coils = coilovers :biggthumpup: its the 2nd gen. I was referring to use it with the UAS bags.[/QUOTE]


The rear is where its going to be tricky.  Most coilover companies will move the coil spring from the bottom, where it is factory, upto the top.  Inorder to put our aero sport over them, we need to keep the bag down twards the bottom.

Personally, i would suggest looking for either a single tap (like the tein CS) or a coilover that does not move the coil from the bottom up to the top (like the Tanabe).

Now, you can do the double tap coilovers, but typically you will have to shorten the bottom bracket inorder to have the bags sit ontop of the bottom bracket.

Here is some pics of the Tein CS's that we have already built the brackets for.

[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/DSC_0266.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/DSC_0274.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/IMG_3774_med.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/IMG_3797_med.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/IMG_3800_med.jpg[/IMG]

Are these brackets available? So he would just need the CS's and these brackets correct? Thanks Zach, you're always helpful.

[QUOTE=iSuxeL;222029]Are these brackets available? So he would just need the CS's and these brackets correct? Thanks Zach, you're always helpful.[/QUOTE]

Yes we have the brackets available...  

Thanks!=)

BTW, they make like 6 differnt lengths of bags from tripple bellows to single 
 
from like 5 inches high to like 14 or something
 
so if you REALLLLLY wanted to, you can set your coilovers to get higher ride height to get over shit

[quote=iSuxeL;222029]Are these brackets available? So he would just need the CS's and these brackets correct? Thanks Zach, you're always helpful.[/quote]

Contact one of our AUTHORIZED VENDORS if you would like to purchase any UAS products. 

[url]http://vipstylecars.com/forums/announcement.php?f=17&a=6[/url]

[QUOTE=mdenoga;222398]Contact one of our AUTHORIZED VENDORS if you would like to purchase any UAS products. 

[url]http://vipstylecars.com/forums/announcement.php?f=17&a=6[/url][/QUOTE]

Yes, i am just on here to offer support and answer any questions that i can!

Hey Zack will Megan coils work for the 2d gen GS300??

[QUOTE=iSuxeL;222716]Hey Zack will Megan coils work for the 2d gen GS300??[/QUOTE]


Because its a double tapped coilover, inorder to put our system over that coilover you will have to shorten the bottom bracket to slide the bag down to the bottom of the coilover.

What coils can you run other than Teins?

[QUOTE=iSuxeL;222788]What coils can you run other than Teins?[/QUOTE]


Ideally you would want a coilover that will re-use the OEM upper mount.  That way they will keep the coil down at the bottom and it doesn't require alot of modifications.

The ones that i have seen like that are the Tein SS and Tanabe.

Now, the next step would be a single tapped coilover, like a Tein CS where we can build a sandwich style bracket to go onto the bottom, but i would need it sent into us to build them.

Lastly the one i would recommend staying away from is the double tapped.  Because we have to move the bag down to the bottom, typically you will have to shorten the lower bracket inorder for the bag to sit down low on the threaded body to allow for the cars to drop.

****Please note, this is for the 2nd/3rd Gen GS, All IS's, and 2nd Gen SC.  The 1st Gen GS/SC and all of the LS's have the bags sitting on the top of the coilovers so these hassle don't apply.

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normal size^
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and there is a tripple convoluted as well

i think my next setup will havet he double.

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^^you just posted a pic of your parts LOL

[QUOTE=Yokotas13;222864][img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3449/3182252582_3f711a0e52.jpg[/img]
[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3519/3182252872_d3f7ae38aa.jpg[/img]
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normal size^
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and there is a tripple convoluted as well

i think my next setup will havet he double.[/QUOTE]

Did you take those pics out at the autoshow?  

We can make a few different sizes.... But.....

The 7" is typically only used in the Lambo's  (same collapsed height, just less travel then aero sports)

The 8" is typically only used in the Hi Aces & camaro's (same collapsed height, just less travel then aero sports)

the regular aero sports are used in most vehicles.

Double bellow version we have discontinued, but we can still assemble them.  The do not preform well in a heavy weight vehicle.

Triple bellow's we will no longer make.  They have a collapsed height of 5" and not that much extended height.  Not to mention, they can't handle much weight.

Also we do have what we call our "power sport" in development.  Its the same travel as the aero sport bag, but 6.5" in diameter.  This is being designed for the very heavy vehicles like the new esclade, silverado and expedition's.

yeah, i took it at tokyo auto salon on that friday.

double bellow should yield a better ride at partial PSI than a single, but once aired up respond better for performance me believes.  

the setup im going ot be running is on high end KGM coils for my legacy.  wanting to put it on the track with bags.  prove that it can be done reliably.  if you want to help me out Pm me, maybe we can work something out for R&D.

[quote=iSuxeL;223019]^^you just posted a pic of your parts LOL[/quote]
Yes I did! :biggthumpup:

Oh I thought you had a question and forgot to type it in haha

[QUOTE=Universal Air;223522]
Also we do have what we call our "power sport" in development.  Its the same travel as the aero sport bag, but 6.5" in diameter.  This is being designed for the very heavy vehicles like the new esclade, silverado and expedition's.[/QUOTE]

Will this work for avoiding bag rubbing the spindle problems in some Lexus cars?

[QUOTE=chrispy;223887]Will this work for avoiding bag rubbing the spindle problems in some Lexus cars?[/QUOTE]

No, its larger then the regular bags that most people are running.  you shouldn't have the bags rubbing on the lexus.  The only time i have heard of that is on the Bilstien because they lower the spring mount over the factory height or on a coilover when they adjust the lower mount down too far or if the front end is cambered.

When your installing you always want to make sure that the bag isn't going to rub anything.

BUMP this up!
I too want to know if these bags will work with Megan Racing LP coilovers for my LS430.need to know asap!
[QUOTE=kalicki;217286]has anyone have or done a setup with Megan Lps'?

or does anyone know if the OD is less than 2.14?

i was also looking at JIC. if OD is small enough is it worth spending the extra g on them instead of the megans?

its for my 94 LS400[/QUOTE]

shaun, I believe its possible to use UAS bags on the megan coilovers.

My belief is that ksport, d2, and megans are pretty much the same identical stuff, just different colors. haha..

my d2's have 2.09" so it will fit the uas bags..

^^Thanks Malcolm!but i just called Megan Racing and the size fo the Street LP coilovers is 1.96".so it'll work!hoorayy!

So if I were to purchase the kit for an ls400 where would be the best place to bring it to get it installed in the midwest area?

i was wondering how hard would this to be install on a 3rd gen ls 400? like if i take it to a professional shop taht specailze in aftermaket parts / installation and its thier 1st time installing UAS bags, would they have a hard time insstalling it?
 
when these bags are isntalll how is the ride comfort compare to the coilovers u had on ? for exmaple if u had tien cs with the bags on would it ride the same as the cs with springs or more stiff? 

 if i drive this in winter where weather is like -13F to  -40F with the bags full flated, would it be a issue?

can i readjust my regular ride hieght with bags on if i have teh bags on coilovers? liek say in the summer time i drop it 2 inch on my coilover and  then in the winter time i want to rerasie it 2 inch?

are you serious?
are you even old enough to own a car with the maturity level it takes to have that username

and what happened to keeping newbs in the 101 section

I have a 1990 ls400 that I am looking to buy a uas kit for, but i was wondering what coilovers would work for this car. I have looked to see if the tein CS was available for the car but the do not make it for this gen. Also I was wondering if you guys sold the bags and the brackets seperately. Thanks

ucf 20 will fit 10 too

Yes the bags/brackets would be avail from one of the supporting vendors, just make sure that they know that its for the coilovers so we can build the brackets accordingly.

For the LS you have a wide range of choices for the coilovers.  The only requirement for us it go have the threaded body be 2.14 or smaller in diameter.

you got a pm

[QUOTE=Yokotas13;259212]ucf 20 will fit 10 too[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Universal Air;259468]Yes the bags/brackets would be avail from one of the supporting vendors, just make sure that they know that its for the coilovers so we can build the brackets accordingly.

For the LS you have a wide range of choices for the coilovers.  The only requirement for us it go have the threaded body be 2.14 or smaller in diameter.[/QUOTE]


thanks a lot for the info guys. hopefully i can complete this setup soon.

Hi UAS bloke :)

I am trying to make a choice between a UAS kit and an AirRunner kit.

I like the UAS kit for a few reasons:

- Price/feature ratio
- Ability to use coilovers

I am trying to decide whether to get coilovers first, then the air set up, or install the air, than get coilovers once the stock suspension blows.

Is there a pro/con for either way?

Who in Western Canada is a dealer?

I would be happy to buy from anyone for the right price ;)

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers fellas,

Ryan

EDIT: Sorry, this is going on a first gen JDM Aristo.

I'd go coilover first and then air....or if you are doing both at the same time Airrunner might be just easier and better to get.

Usually stock struts require extra work to make them work..cutting and welding.   

Remember UAS bags fit up to 3.14in diameter or something...double check the coilovers diameter yourself.   

Since this is going on an aristo there should be plenty of coilover options for you...

i was under the impression that the uas kit for the 1st gen aristo is basically a 'plug and play, with no mods to the stock struts necessary. 

Am i wrong?

It all depends on what strut your putting it onto.  If its a coilover, no mod's just make sure that you specify that its for a coilover.  If your going over KYB's then we have made a special plate that will just slot right onto it.  If your going with the OEM's then you will need to notch out the spring pearch for the air line to come out.

the shock body needs to be 2.14 or smaller in outside diameter.  Most coilovers for the LS is smaller then that size.

Ok, nice one mate. That helps.

Going by what you are saying, Im gathering the kit for stock suspension differs somehow from the kit that comes for coilovers. If so, how does it differ?

If that is the case, Im guessing it would be best to get the coilovers in first, then get the UAS kit after?

I am planning on running the Megan Racing coilovers.......LS series which i read earlier is small enough of a diameter to fit the bags.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=spud;259715]Ok, nice one mate. That helps.

Going by what you are saying, Im gathering the kit for stock suspension differs somehow from the kit that comes for coilovers. If so, how does it differ?

If that is the case, Im guessing it would be best to get the coilovers in first, then get the UAS kit after?

I am planning on running the Megan Racing coilovers.......LS series which i read earlier is small enough of a diameter to fit the bags.

Cheers,[/QUOTE]

The only thing we do different for the coilovers is that we will put a peice of tube under the plate to space the bag up enough off the coil adjusters to be able to get the fitting out of the bottom and not have to modify the coil adjusters.

Ok, nice one.

Is that collar of tube under to the base of the bag mounted permanantly by you guys in the factory before it is shipped, or is it just a loose collar that you have to slip on at the time you install the kit?

Sorry for all the questions, but it will be the determining factor in how I order my kit.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=spud;259718]Ok, nice one.

Is that collar of tube under to the base of the bag mounted permanantly by you guys in the factory before it is shipped, or is it just a loose collar that you have to slip on at the time you install the kit?

Sorry for all the questions, but it will be the determining factor in how I order my kit.

Cheers,[/QUOTE]

we would normally weld them onto the tube, but it could just be loose if you want...

sweet as mate.

Welding will be fine.

I will order my coilovers first then, and then order the air kit after that, along with the welded coilover collar.

Thanks again, for taking the time to reply to my questions mate.

Cheers,

Ryan

Your welcome!  Anything i can do to help please don't hesitate to ask!

If one of the bags blow, punchure, or lines leak while driving, what are the options? Tow the car or can you still drive it??

If you have UAS over coils, it still can run with the coils if this unfortunate event happens right??

as long as you set it up so you can drive when its totally dumped, then you can amek it home and put springs on the coil

i could imagine this happening on the freeway... yikes...:(

Do you guys know if the Megan LP coilover's strut will fit the UAS?

[QUOTE=radicalrev;272433]Do you guys know if the Megan LP coilover's strut will fit the UAS?[/QUOTE]

Yes it will fit over the megan, but if its an 2nd/3rd gen GS/IS/SC you will need to have to lower brackets shortened to allow for the bag to sit down on the bottom of the strut.

[QUOTE=Universal Air;272443]Yes it will fit over the megan, but if its an 2nd/3rd gen GS/IS/SC you will need to have to lower brackets shortened to allow for the bag to sit down on the bottom of the strut.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, So it is because of the vehicle rather than the Megan strut?

[QUOTE=radicalrev;272472]Thanks, So it is because of the vehicle rather than the Megan strut?[/QUOTE]

Yeah only the vehicles zack listed need the brackets shortened.

^ any picture or diy to do this? 

I talked to a couple Lexus IS members that has UAS and they told me no modification was needed except modifying the bottom perch so the air line will fit through.

ehm..confused here..

[QUOTE=radicalrev;272553]^ any picture or diy to do this? 

I talked to a couple Lexus IS members that has UAS and they told me no modification was needed except modifying the bottom perch so the air line will fit through.

ehm..confused here..[/QUOTE]

Bro call zack @ UAS or PM him here & ask him he'll tell you exactly what you need to do to make it work for you....he's very helpful,know his shit & he's patient because i had him on the phone for a while & he was cool as a fan.

[QUOTE=radicalrev;272553]^ any picture or diy to do this? 

I talked to a couple Lexus IS members that has UAS and they told me no modification was needed except modifying the bottom perch so the air line will fit through.

ehm..confused here..[/QUOTE]


Zack's ext is 114.


What they mean when they say modifying the perch is cutting a hole in it to be able to pass the fitting thru for the air line.

[QUOTE=tommiedred;272563]Bro call zack @ UAS or PM him here & ask him he'll tell you exactly what you need to do to make it work for you....he's very helpful,know his shit & he's patient because i had him on the phone for a while & he was cool as a fan.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the comments!!  I try to be as helpful as i can :giggity:

[QUOTE=radicalrev;272553]^ any picture or diy to do this? 

I talked to a couple Lexus IS members that has UAS and they told me no modification was needed except modifying the bottom perch so the air line will fit through.

ehm..confused here..[/QUOTE]

It all depends on the vehicle and the coilover.  Some coilovers for the rear end of the IS/GS/SC will take and move the spring from the bottom of strut where it is from the factory, up to the top (like the megan's). Also some will keep it down at the bottom of the strut (like the tanabe's). 

When the coil is moved up to the top of the strut, inorder to put the bag on there it will have to be moved back down to the bottom of the strut. Now some coilovers are easy to do like the tein CS's because they don't run a double tapped coilover so we have built a bracket that will sandwich the bottom of the coilover and allow for it to sit on the bottom. 

Now some coilovers, like the megan or CST's have a double tapped body so they have a bottom bracket that is threaded onto the shock body. Those are a PITA because we need to shorten the bottom bracket to allow for the bag to sit all the way down at the point that the coil spring use to sit at. The CST's are not that big of a deal, because the brackets are made out of steel, we have shortened them here before inhouse and was able to weld it back up. However the megan's use an aluminum bracket on the bottom and we are not able to shorten them here, so you would need to have a fab shop cut a section out of the bracket, and then weld it back together.  

So to make a long story short.  Basically if its a double tap coilover you will have to cut a section out of the middle of the bracket because they are usually only threaded at the top section of the bracket.  Weld the two pieces back together low enough for the bottom of the bag to sit where it would from the factory.  Here is a pic of the CS's with the sandwich brackets.

[IMG]https://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/IMG_3774_med.jpg[/IMG]

Thanks Zack for all the PMs, really appreciate your time.

Now I know what Tommiered said earlier...zack is the man!!

[QUOTE=radicalrev;272636]Thanks Zack for all the PMs, really appreciate your time.

Now I know what Tommiered said earlier...zack is the man!![/QUOTE]

:biggthumpup:  Thanks!  Anything I can do to help, please don't hesitate to ask!

I am looking into the aero sports for my 99 Acura RL (KA9 Honda Legend) and I have noticed that on the UAS Japan site they offer a system for the KA9 but on your U.S. site there is no application.  Is there a reason why?  And is it possible that you have any install information available or accessible from UAS Japan?

Zack, what happens if the bag isn't mounted as low as possible on the rear shock on a 2GS? I just got some Megan coilovers to replace my struts but it sounds like a big hassle to get them to fit.

[QUOTE=0psi;274241]I am looking into the aero sports for my 99 Acura RL (KA9 Honda Legend) and I have noticed that on the UAS Japan site they offer a system for the KA9 but on your U.S. site there is no application.  Is there a reason why?  And is it possible that you have any install information available or accessible from UAS Japan?[/QUOTE]


Did you happen to see any installation pictures?  My understanding inorder to install the bags in, you will need to cut the inside of the upper arm, plate the outside of the arm, modify the inner wall and possibly redrill the strut tower....

[QUOTE=chrispy;274435]Zack, what happens if the bag isn't mounted as low as possible on the rear shock on a 2GS? I just got some Megan coilovers to replace my struts but it sounds like a big hassle to get them to fit.[/QUOTE]

It is, if its not dropped down that far, when you lay your car out its either going to sit really high, or if you move it up on the strut, it will rub the inner wall.

[QUOTE=Universal Air;274440]Did you happen to see any installation pictures?  My understanding inorder to install the bags in, you will need to cut the inside of the upper arm, plate the outside of the arm, modify the inner wall and possibly redrill the strut tower....[/QUOTE]

I haven't seen any instructions but I am already being turned off if I would have to modify the actual inner fender.  This makes me sad  :(

what psi is everyone running their UAS systems at?

[QUOTE=67rs;276141]what psi is everyone running their UAS systems at?[/QUOTE]

There is ton's of factors.  Vehicle, Added accessories,  If on coilovers, how low/high do they have them adjusting to, wheel/tire size, How low or high they want to drive etc.  There is alot of different psi's.

zack, ive pmed you some questions about UAS. thanks.

pm'ed question about running KYB shocks/struts with UAS on a 2nd gen GS.

Question...there is this store that has 3 uas bags which has been in display for atleast 2-3 years.

They are pricing them cheaper because they dont want to stock them, my question is that since its older now, will the rubber dry since its been out on display for that long?  And the funny thing is that one of them uses the old universal air logo and its a different part number too.

Will they still be ok to use?

Here´s my question:
I´m going to use UAS bags with BC coils, and I already put them together, but I was thinking if the bag is in its tallest position. I mean, do I have to tighten the bag, or should I leave some space? According to UAS website, the bag´s height is 9.25" (Extended). Mine´s now is less then that. So I should leave as much space so I get this 9,25, right??
 
heres a foto of the uas+bc: [URL]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_eqKMfYfAOv4/S7ZDyopi87I/AAAAAAAAAas/4q2-nRh4cRw/s512/IMGP2374.jpg[/URL]

[QUOTE=silos5;315055]Here´s my question:
I´m going to use UAS bags with BC coils, and I already put them together, but I was thinking if the bag is in its tallest position. I mean, do I have to tighten the bag, or should I leave some space? According to UAS website, the bag´s height is 9.25" (Extended). Mine´s now is less then that. So I should leave as much space so I get this 9,25, right??
 
heres a foto of the uas+bc: [URL]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_eqKMfYfAOv4/S7ZDyopi87I/AAAAAAAAAas/4q2-nRh4cRw/s512/IMGP2374.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]

I have seen people leave it like that because once the bag expands, its the shock that will get longer, so therefore its just the shaft of the shock that will move, so you dont need to move your sleeve (or move the perch), to accommodate to the extended length of the bag.

I hope that made sense...haha.

lets try this way:
[URL="http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp234/silosfive/05.jpg"]here[/URL] and [URL="http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp234/silosfive/2077928148_5a6f111c42_o.jpg"]here[/URL] there is space left fo the bag to get taller.
[URL="http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp234/silosfive/l_2c922c0917dd6ecd6c0abba41dcdd5-1.jpg"]here[/URL] the bag seems to have no space for it.

which one is right? I think first two are? you?

The measurements that UAS provides don't account for the weight of the vehicle preloading the bag.  So if the bag is 9.25" fully aired with nothing pressing down on it and then you put a 1000 lbs on it than the bag will compress and it will no longer be 9.25" but shorter.  What you are doing now is just fabbing it up.   Ur suspension setup will work the same with bags as with springs, put it on the car and play with the perches until you find the "sweet spot", the spot where the height is right for you, at the pressure you feel is how u want it set up ie: jarring, stiff, medium, adjust dampening and than lock it in.

Hey zach, have you heard of the aero sport not working with any of the Megan coilovers?

Ok, i've got some Stance coilovers for my 2GS. from these 17 pages i read, i seems they wont work with the bag setup.
so i will have to use regular shocks instead of coilovers. If i buy the UAS kit and install it onto my stock shocks, will it be a permanent affair? Lets say the stock shocks blow out and i need to remove the bags to install on the new ones. will it be bolt off/bolt on? or is welding required. I was thinking about using my stock shocks and purchasing some KYB GR2 replacements later on.

^^^ the bag brackets get welded on your shocks so later when you get gr-2's you will need to weld new brackets

[QUOTE=5t341tH;316342]Ok, i've got some Stance coilovers for my 2GS. from these 17 pages i read, i seems they wont work with the bag setup.
so i will have to use regular shocks instead of coilovers. If i buy the UAS kit and install it onto my stock shocks, will it be a permanent affair? Lets say the stock shocks blow out and i need to remove the bags to install on the new ones. will it be bolt off/bolt on? or is welding required. I was thinking about using my stock shocks and purchasing some KYB GR2 replacements later on.[/QUOTE]

Brackets are attached via 2 bolt for top brackets and 2 bolt bottom bracket.  They just slide right on.  No welding.  Trust me.  I've done too many air installs not to know this.

[QUOTE=bbaction;316329]Hey zach, have you heard of the aero sport not working with any of the Megan coilovers?[/QUOTE]

Our aero sports work very well with megan coilovers.  It just depends on the car that your putting them onto and how much work it takes to actually do it.

If its a 2nd/3rd gen GS/SC, IS the rear end is a PITA.  Inorder to use the megan's because they move the spring from the bottom of the strut (oem location) to the top, we need to move it back down to the bottom so there is enough clearance for the bag.  When we put a set on an IS, this was a matter of taking 6" out of the lower bracket, and building a 3" spacer for the top to get it within the shock travel.

[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/l_d2d3eea72aa149dcbd25ffa2d31c1306.jpg[/IMG]

Now, if you have a 1st gen GS/SC, or an LS, the bags will go right in

[QUOTE=5t341tH;316342]Ok, i've got some Stance coilovers for my 2GS. from these 17 pages i read, i seems they wont work with the bag setup.
so i will have to use regular shocks instead of coilovers. If i buy the UAS kit and install it onto my stock shocks, will it be a permanent affair? Lets say the stock shocks blow out and i need to remove the bags to install on the new ones. will it be bolt off/bolt on? or is welding required. I was thinking about using my stock shocks and purchasing some KYB GR2 replacements later on.[/QUOTE]

It will work, but the rear is a nightmare.  I do not suggest ever welding to the struts for a lexus.  For the lower, it will be a plate that sits ontop of either the OEM lower spring plate, or on a strut directly (KYB's)

[QUOTE=ni5mo240;316356]^^^ the bag brackets get welded on your shocks so later when you get gr-2's you will need to weld new brackets[/QUOTE]

I don't suggest welding to the struts because it will usually damage them from the heat.

[QUOTE=silos5;315111]lets try this way:
[URL="http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp234/silosfive/05.jpg"]here[/URL] and [URL="http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp234/silosfive/2077928148_5a6f111c42_o.jpg"]here[/URL] there is space left fo the bag to get taller.
[URL="http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp234/silosfive/l_2c922c0917dd6ecd6c0abba41dcdd5-1.jpg"]here[/URL] the bag seems to have no space for it.

which one is right? I think first two are? you?[/QUOTE]

What your going to want to do with the double adjustable coilovers.  First, adjust the bag height on the strut with spring nuts so that from the top of the pressure tube (fat part of the strut) to the top of the lower bracket is 4.25".  Then install them on the car and jack up the suspenion until it sits where you want it to when its fully layed out.  then lengthen or shorten the coilover with the bottom adjustment until the bag is fully bottomed out.  This will give you the maximum travel out of the suspension.

Then from there, if you want to change the way the car rides/handles.  I would suggest to go out for a drive and see how the car feels at different heights.  Play with the adjustable dampening to tune in for what you like.  Then, if your height that you like for the ride is higher then what you want, you can either move the bag up/down on the coilover, or lenghten/shorten the coilover to lower the body.  Just make sure when you do that you don't come in contact with the spindle if its dropped too low.

[QUOTE=silos5;315055]Here´s my question:
I´m going to use UAS bags with BC coils, and I already put them together, but I was thinking if the bag is in its tallest position. I mean, do I have to tighten the bag, or should I leave some space? According to UAS website, the bag´s height is 9.25" (Extended). Mine´s now is less then that. So I should leave as much space so I get this 9,25, right??
 
heres a foto of the uas+bc: [URL]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_eqKMfYfAOv4/S7ZDyopi87I/AAAAAAAAAas/4q2-nRh4cRw/s512/IMGP2374.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]

the way the bag is sitting right now, its not fully extended.  It will extend up about another 3"

[IMG]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/_images/gallery/l_3b882d7fff7147859566e641483f311e.jpg[/IMG]

Thank you Zach for explainings !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just want to share my experience about the UAS.

I bought UAS kit in the beginning of the year, installed it only in June, drove 2 days and noticed one bag was leaking. The problem was not in the valves or connections, but in the bag himself. I contacted Zack from UAS.
I live in europe and its a pain the a$$ for me to get parts from USA (shipping cost, time and custom$). I took fotos and made video for Zack with my problem. The problem was that there was a hole in the inner wall of the bag. Zack responded very fast to my e-mails, despite the 10 hour time difference. I sent my bag to UAS (otherwise I need to pay customs for new bag). Zack sent me a new bag. Got it in week.

[B]VERDICT: I´m VERY happy with the UAS aftersales and support. Special THANKS to Zack and UAS !!! [/B]:biggthumpup::biggthumpup::biggthumpup:

Can anyone recommend good struts that won't go out from continuously driving the car slammed that will also allow work with my UAS kit?

I'd use coilovers. My teins have held up very well. Though i wouldn't consider my drive height dumpt, it's pretty low and they still ride like the first day i got them.  What were you using?

just went through the same problem on a customer car with the Bag leaking on the inside. It never leaked when i checked it before i put it in and after. It stayed up for 3 days.. 3 days later when the customer had the car back it had a slow leak. 
 
Lucky the dist here in hawaii replaced it. 
 
I have installed many of there kits and this is the first one that leaked. the bag that are in my car has beenin there for 3 years and not one problem. 
 
Keep up the good service!
 
[QUOTE=silos5;334207]just want to share my experience about the UAS.
 
I bought UAS kit in the beginning of the year, installed it only in June, drove 2 days and noticed one bag was leaking. The problem was not in the valves or connections, but in the bag himself. I contacted Zack from UAS.
I live in europe and its a pain the a$$ for me to get parts from USA (shipping cost, time and custom$). I took fotos and made video for Zack with my problem. The problem was that there was a hole in the inner wall of the bag. Zack responded very fast to my e-mails, despite the 10 hour time difference. I sent my bag to UAS (otherwise I need to pay customs for new bag). Zack sent me a new bag. Got it in week.
 
[B]VERDICT: I´m VERY happy with the UAS aftersales and support. Special THANKS to Zack and UAS !!! [/B]:biggthumpup::biggthumpup::biggthumpup:[/QUOTE]

i have a question. well i just bought a UAS off a guy who had it on a Q45 and i about to get them installed on my 2nd gen GS on stock struts for the time being. he included a 7 switch box with the kit. what i wanted to do is just install an illuminated dual needle gauge. that way when i push the button on the box for either front or back i can check it on the gauge to see what PSI i am at what height i calculate base on the psi level. But i still want to have control of all the other buttons on the box...

i dont know if that makes sense if it dont i will try to explain it better somehow. can that be done?

[QUOTE=xxjustimajinxx;337176]i have a question. well i just bought a UAS off a guy who had it on a Q45 and i about to get them installed on my 2nd gen GS on stock struts for the time being. he included a 7 switch box with the kit. what i wanted to do is just install an illuminated dual needle gauge. that way when i push the button on the box for either front or back i can check it on the gauge to see what PSI i am at what height i calculate base on the psi level. But i still want to have control of all the other buttons on the box...

i dont know if that makes sense if it dont i will try to explain it better somehow. can that be done?[/QUOTE]


Yes. When you start out, you will tap the buttons on the 7 switch to the height that you like, say 100 psi in the front, 50 in the rear.  then when ever you want to adjust it to that same height, just adjust the gauges to read the same psi and the car would be at the same height (assuming it wasn't done with a single person, then now you have 4 large people and a trunk of luggage)

[QUOTE=Universal Air;337177]Yes. When you start out, you will tap the buttons on the 7 switch to the height that you like, say 100 psi in the front, 50 in the rear.  then when ever you want to adjust it to that same height, just adjust the gauges to read the same psi and the car would be at the same height (assuming it wasn't done with a single person, then now you have 4 large people and a trunk of luggage)[/QUOTE]

Well I know that much lol. My question is if I have 2 buttons on the box, one for front and one for the rear. Can I hook the gauge to only read those 2 buttons and still have control of all the other buttons on my switch box

[QUOTE=xxjustimajinxx;337190]Well I know that much lol. My question is if I have 2 buttons on the box, one for front and one for the rear. Can I hook the gauge to only read those 2 buttons and still have control of all the other buttons on my switch box[/QUOTE]

Its possible, but it would be a plumbing nightmare.  If you tag off only 1 line going to the bag, and use that for your gauge, you will most likely sit a little crooked because the side with the analog gauge would have more "volume" between the valve and the bag.  The only way to really do that and have it go up even is to basically run a dummy line, the same length and have it plugged off so that way it will be filling up the same amount of volume every time you lift/drop it.

If you went with a digital gauge, with a sending unit, you could tap and put those into the T's in the middle of the valves and it would work good.

Cant wait till i go air

i have a question. what size is the pressure switch's threads?
its smaller than 1/4". is it 1/8"

EDIT: nvm, it is 1/8

A friend fo mine is wanting to use UAS on his 3gs. Are there any 3gs owners here on uas? Are there any issues with the bags rubbing like they do on the 2gs? Also, what kind of shocks were used with the air bags and if possible link me to some pics or post here. Thanks.

anyone here with W211 Benz??

sorry double post i actually want to see the application on the rear bags on w211? if anyone here want to share some pictures of w211 rear suspension and front suspension  I'd appreciate it.

[QUOTE=jeebus;338339]A friend fo mine is wanting to use UAS on his 3gs. Are there any 3gs owners here on uas? Are there any issues with the bags rubbing like they do on the 2gs? Also, what kind of shocks were used with the air bags and if possible link me to some pics or post here. Thanks.[/QUOTE]


[url]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/on-road/gallery.php?sid=99&cid=13[/url]

[url]http://www.universalairsuspension.com/on-road/gallery.php?sid=157&cid=13[/url]
^That guy is on here and on Clublexus.

Havent heard of any spindle rubbing issues.

Hey guys, I've just bought a UAS kit, the only problem is there isn't a bolt in coil over kit for my car. It's a 1989 Toyta Crown Royal Saloon G, running factory air.Just wondering if anybody in the Southern Hemisphere is running these? I've had a chat to a few local shops in regards to a custom coil set-up, but most don't want to touch this :( What coilovers are you guys running with the UAS kit?

Stupid question but Well if you use 5 150 psi senders with you dd psi gauge and you running a 5 gallon tank on your uas will it be ok?

hi, I have a question.
i have dual 480c compressors running thru my 80amp relay. is that big kind that u can buy from UAS.
[IMG]https://www.universalairsuspension.com/store/images/solenoid.jpg[/IMG]
mines different from that, but same principle. mine is this one
[IMG]http://images.sonicelectronix.com/images/17013/big/pac80.jpg[/IMG]

is it okay to run both compressors' ground wire to the relay? and from there to chassis ground? since the relay needs to be ground out anyway?
i just want to be sure its safe before i continue running it like this

sorry to bump up an old thread i didnt want to make a new thread for a UAS question. But here we go i hear even with the billet brackets that they rub if you are really dumpt but if you ride in there with the right amount of air it wont rub and you will still be low. But i have a you zealand RCA kit which drops the front end 1" and the brackets. So since i will have to air up a tad bit more bc of the RCA with the bracket would it prevent my bag from rubbing the knuckle a little more because of me using MORE air in the bag for the extra lift?

a little problem I had today with DOT fittings.
Went to pick up a car from a parking lot and noticed my rear left side is totally down. I pump it and saw psi dropping. Went to the garage. Sprayed all connections but nothing. I was hearing air comming out but couldnt find it. At last I found the problem: micro holes in the metal.

[IMG]http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp234/silosfive/IMG_6070.jpg[/IMG]

good that a local shop had similar fitting.

I´ve been having a leak in the tank and couldnt find it for a half a year. Next time I empty the tank from water I will change the fitting. I almost dont hear and feel my compressors, but I want my system to work perfectly.

I have a G35 Coupe with UAS bags and on Tokico's. To drive slammed, I have only 26 psi up front and 0 in the back... is there a way to get more air pressure in the bags while driving slammed?

What do you mean? That question answers itself with a no.

You can't drive lower and have bag pressure, are you asking how to go lower so you can air up to your ride height?

Yes, I've already removed one of the metal spacers. I'm wondering what else I can do so I can get the car lower so I can get more air pressure in the bags.

Question guys:

With UAS susp is 3gallon tank, 1 380 compressor with 1/2 fitting any good?? 

 Coz theres a local shop here selling uas kit(basic front and back) for cheaper. The only diff wit the kit this guy r selling from the ones on uas website  is the 3 things i mentioned above. Just wanna know if this will work still as fine if i get wat this local is selling me. Coz i know on uas site the kit comes wit 4 or 5gal tank wit 2 compressor.

Im open for any suggestion or advice guys? Im totally noob wit bags setup so iono wat to do lol

Thanks a lot!:biggthumpup:

[QUOTE=Why33;394355]Question guys:

With UAS susp is 3gallon tank, 1 380 compressor with 1/2 fitting any good?? 

 Coz theres a local shop here selling uas kit(basic front and back) for cheaper. The only diff wit the kit this guy r selling from the ones on uas website  is the 3 things i mentioned above. Just wanna know if this will work still as fine if i get wat this local is selling me. Coz i know on uas site the kit comes wit 4 or 5gal tank wit 2 compressor.

Im open for any suggestion or advice guys? Im totally noob wit bags setup so iono wat to do lol

Thanks a lot!:biggthumpup:[/QUOTE]

I would suggest to go with a 4-6 gallons of air and the dual pump (doesn't cost too much more and gives a fail-safe backup with the compressor eventually wears out).

For the Front/back, you will have alot more body roll because the air will transfer from one side to the other.  If you add the side/side each corner is isolated to keep the air from moving.

[QUOTE=andrewyfang;392189]Yes, I've already removed one of the metal spacers. I'm wondering what else I can do so I can get the car lower so I can get more air pressure in the bags.[/QUOTE]

go coils. you will sacrifice height for pressure though I.e. if you want more pressure at a lower height, your full up will be much lower, depending on how much pressure you want at ride height

[QUOTE=Universal Air;394493]I would suggest to go with a 4-6 gallons of air and the dual pump (doesn't cost too much more and gives a fail-safe backup with the compressor eventually wears out).

For the Front/back, you will have alot more body roll because the air will transfer from one side to the other.  If you add the side/side each corner is isolated to keep the air from moving.[/QUOTE]

Thanks man.. I will defnitely gonna look into ur suggestion! :biggthumpup:

Greetings all,

I am looking to purchase/piece together an air suspension kit and was referred here to learn more about the in's and out's.

My main objective in purchasing an air system is obstacle avoidance, as well as, pulling up into my insanely steep drive way. I am more interested in performance handling, hence my interest in getting feedback regarding corner balancing.

Basically, would it yield similar performance to a typical coilover/spring set-up? My assumption is, just as you'd adjust spring rates on a coilover by playing with the spring perch (spring compression), it'd be more easier to increase/decrease air pressure at each individual bag. Is my assumption correct?

Thanks in advance for the feedback..

BTW, this is for a '93 SC 400.

Look into coilover/air cup kits. Probably a better alternative to UAS if you are that concerned with performance.  Though the travel when going up wont be as much as a air set up.

[QUOTE=jeebus;394636]Look into coilover/air cup kits. Probably a better alternative to UAS if you are that concerned with performance.  Though the travel when going up wont be as much as a air set up.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the reply jeebus. I will look into the air cup set-ups.