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After a number of poeple telling me the front of the car is too high I dropped it another 1/2"...fixed the rear camber a little (one side was 5* and the other was only 2.7*...don't know how that happened). Anyway here we go:
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Looks nice Pavel....I will see you on Sunday.
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Looks nice Pavel....I will see you on Sunday.
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awesome Y33! :)
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awesome Y33! :)
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Very nice, good pics 8)
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Very nice, good pics 8)
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eeekkk no more night shots with black cars (they don't turn out unless you do some overexposure) all we see is rim (but for some reason it still looks really good :D.)
Jake
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eeekkk no more night shots with black cars (they don't turn out unless you do some overexposure) all we see is rim (but for some reason it still looks really good :D.)
Jake
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After a number of poeple telling me the front of the car is too high I dropped it another 1/2"...fixed the rear camber a little (one side was 5* and the other was only 2.7*...don't know how that happened). Anyway here we go:
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So How much lower can you go?
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Wow....Qwest Field looks nice with the car !!! Now tell Qwest they owe me a bid this weekend.. :2funny:
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Wow....Qwest Field looks nice with the car !!! Now tell Qwest they owe me a bid this weekend.. :2funny:
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zion_97 wrote:
So How much lower can you go?
Ummm...up front another 1.5" and in the rear another 2~2.5". So I can easily tuck my tires :D
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So How much lower can you go?
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Ummm...up front another 1.5" and in the rear another 2~2.5". So I can easily tuck my tires :D
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Dark Anghell wrote:
Ummm...up front another 1.5" and in the rear another 2~2.5". So I can easily tuck my tires :D
lower it more man, that thing will look soo sick
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Ummm...up front another 1.5" and in the rear another 2~2.5". So I can easily tuck my tires :D
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lower it more man, that thing will look soo sick
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nadreams wrote:
lower it more man, that thing will look soo sick
haha I know, but it is my daily driver and I allready scrape on most speed bumps. I have to see what I can do under the car to get more clearance...the probles lies in the catalytic converters and the mufflers...I guess when I'll be redoing my exhaust I will try to make more clearance. Then I will lower it another 1/2~3/4".
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lower it more man, that thing will look soo sick
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haha I know, but it is my daily driver and I allready scrape on most speed bumps. I have to see what I can do under the car to get more clearance...the probles lies in the catalytic converters and the mufflers...I guess when I'll be redoing my exhaust I will try to make more clearance. Then I will lower it another 1/2~3/4".
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I would be cool if i could see the car haha...
Your is nice looking though... I would also like to see it slammed. I mean come on, I drive my GS daily ;D
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I would be cool if i could see the car haha...
Your is nice looking though... I would also like to see it slammed. I mean come on, I drive my GS daily ;D
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Dark Anghell wrote:
haha I know, but it is my daily driver and I allready scrape on most speed bumps. I have to see what I can do under the car to get more clearance...the probles lies in the catalytic converters and the mufflers...I guess when I'll be redoing my exhaust I will try to make more clearance. Then I will lower it another 1/2~3/4".
that is why a lot of people go air, running wheels like those you gotta have the car slammed man :)
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haha I know, but it is my daily driver and I allready scrape on most speed bumps. I have to see what I can do under the car to get more clearance...the probles lies in the catalytic converters and the mufflers...I guess when I'll be redoing my exhaust I will try to make more clearance. Then I will lower it another 1/2~3/4".
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that is why a lot of people go air, running wheels like those you gotta have the car slammed man :)
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very nice pics of your car.
lower it a little more.......forget those speed bumps........ :buck2:
I dont know about you....but it's not like your always in unknown territory.......you should know your streets by now ;)
when I was slammed on the es, I knew what speed bump I could clear and wich ones I couldn't ::)
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very nice pics of your car.
lower it a little more.......forget those speed bumps........ :buck2:
I dont know about you....but it's not like your always in unknown territory.......you should know your streets by now ;)
when I was slammed on the es, I knew what speed bump I could clear and wich ones I couldn't ::)
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gato wrote:
very nice pics of your car.
lower it a little more.......forget those speed bumps........ :buck2:
I dont know about you....but it's not like your always in unknown territory.......you should know your streets by now ;)
when I was slammed on the es, I knew what speed bump I could clear and wich ones I couldn't ::)
That's the problem, there is a speed bump at my place that I have to go over in order to wash my car, and I was allready scraping badly on it. Then there's another one at a big shopping area (one stupid speed bump out of 30 they have there >:(). Once again, the car will go lower when the exhaust gets replaced.
As for going air...I am a college student...I can't afford that stuff ;D . In about a year (fingers crossed) this car will be completed within a month or two. Then I may go air.
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very nice pics of your car.
lower it a little more.......forget those speed bumps........ :buck2:
I dont know about you....but it's not like your always in unknown territory.......you should know your streets by now ;)
when I was slammed on the es, I knew what speed bump I could clear and wich ones I couldn't ::)
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That's the problem, there is a speed bump at my place that I have to go over in order to wash my car, and I was allready scraping badly on it. Then there's another one at a big shopping area (one stupid speed bump out of 30 they have there >:(). Once again, the car will go lower when the exhaust gets replaced.
As for going air...I am a college student...I can't afford that stuff ;D . In about a year (fingers crossed) this car will be completed within a month or two. Then I may go air.
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damn that is crazy hot!
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damn that is crazy hot!
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Dark Anghell wrote:
That's the problem, there is a speed bump at my place that I have to go over in order to wash my car, and I was allready scraping badly on it. Then there's another one at a big shopping area (one stupid speed bump out of 30 they have there >:(). Once again, the car will go lower when the exhaust gets replaced.
As for going air...I am a college student...I can't afford that stuff ;D . In about a year (fingers crossed) this car will be completed within a month or two. Then I may go air.
If that is the only delema then wash your car somewhere else and go to a different shopping area....but if you dont want to F%#@ up your ride I totally understand..........
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That's the problem, there is a speed bump at my place that I have to go over in order to wash my car, and I was allready scraping badly on it. Then there's another one at a big shopping area (one stupid speed bump out of 30 they have there >:(). Once again, the car will go lower when the exhaust gets replaced.
As for going air...I am a college student...I can't afford that stuff ;D . In about a year (fingers crossed) this car will be completed within a month or two. Then I may go air.
[/quote]If that is the only delema then wash your car somewhere else and go to a different shopping area....but if you dont want to F%#@ up your ride I totally understand..........
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zion_97 wrote:
If that is the only delema then wash your car somewhere else and go to a different shopping area....but if you dont want to F%#@ up your ride I totally understand..........
Yeah I am a bit anal about my car getting scratches even if you can't see them.
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If that is the only delema then wash your car somewhere else and go to a different shopping area....but if you dont want to F%#@ up your ride I totally understand..........
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Yeah I am a bit anal about my car getting scratches even if you can't see them.
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Dark Anghell wrote:
Yeah I am a bit anal about my car getting scratches even if you can't see them.
Gotcha...Looks good anyway you look at it...... I have been looking at it some more and
I think you should try to get your hands on a 97-98 trunk...I think that it will make that back end look a better... or maybe black out that
white lense heres a picture of your twin..I think you know him or seen his car Doriman I believe..he gots as sick a@@ Q 2. :smitten:
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Yeah I am a bit anal about my car getting scratches even if you can't see them.
[/quote]Gotcha...Looks good anyway you look at it...... I have been looking at it some more and
I think you should try to get your hands on a 97-98 trunk...I think that it will make that back end look a better... or maybe black out that
white lense heres a picture of your twin..I think you know him or seen his car Doriman I believe..he gots as sick a@@ Q 2. :smitten:
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Dark Anghell wrote:
That's the problem, there is a speed bump at my place that I have to go over in order to wash my car, and I was allready scraping badly on it. Then there's another one at a big shopping area (one stupid speed bump out of 30 they have there >:(). Once again, the car will go lower when the exhaust gets replaced.
As for going air...I am a college student...I can't afford that stuff ;D . In about a year (fingers crossed) this car will be completed within a month or two. Then I may go air.
Atleast you got your priorities straight!!! Car looks good as is.. 8)
Same here with my wagon. I can't drop it lower because it's a daily driver and with soccer season starting up for my daughter, I need to bring her and her friends around.. I'm one of those soccer dads.... :coolsmiley:
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That's the problem, there is a speed bump at my place that I have to go over in order to wash my car, and I was allready scraping badly on it. Then there's another one at a big shopping area (one stupid speed bump out of 30 they have there >:(). Once again, the car will go lower when the exhaust gets replaced.
As for going air...I am a college student...I can't afford that stuff ;D . In about a year (fingers crossed) this car will be completed within a month or two. Then I may go air.
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Atleast you got your priorities straight!!! Car looks good as is.. 8)
Same here with my wagon. I can't drop it lower because it's a daily driver and with soccer season starting up for my daughter, I need to bring her and her friends around.. I'm one of those soccer dads.... :coolsmiley:
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tech126 wrote:
Atleast you got your priorities straight!!! Car looks good as is.. 8)
Same here with my wagon. I can't drop it lower because it's a daily driver and with soccer season starting up for my daughter, I need to bring her and her friends around.. I'm one of those soccer dads.... :coolsmiley:
Hey Me too thatscool. keep up the soccer!
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Atleast you got your priorities straight!!! Car looks good as is.. 8)
Same here with my wagon. I can't drop it lower because it's a daily driver and with soccer season starting up for my daughter, I need to bring her and her friends around.. I'm one of those soccer dads.... :coolsmiley:
[/quote]Hey Me too thatscool. keep up the soccer!
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Yeah Dorimon seems to be 1 step ahead of me...it sux I was gonna get BIPPU plate as well, but we can't have 2 Q's with same wheels and same plate ;D . At last I will have a different kit...then we'll no longer be twins.
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Yeah Dorimon seems to be 1 step ahead of me...it sux I was gonna get BIPPU plate as well, but we can't have 2 Q's with same wheels and same plate ;D . At last I will have a different kit...then we'll no longer be twins.
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Looks good lowered some more. Just curious, what size and offset are your rims?
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Looks good lowered some more. Just curious, what size and offset are your rims?
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daltonnnn wrote:
Looks good lowered some more. Just curious, what size and offset are your rims?
They are 19x9 +25 and 19x10 +22. I am going to space out the front wheels by at least 10mm. Possibly 20mm. The rears might get spaced out as well by 5~10mm.
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Looks good lowered some more. Just curious, what size and offset are your rims?
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They are 19x9 +25 and 19x10 +22. I am going to space out the front wheels by at least 10mm. Possibly 20mm. The rears might get spaced out as well by 5~10mm.
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Dark Anghell wrote:
They are 19x9 +25 and 19x10 +22. I am going to space out the front wheels by at least 10mm. Possibly 20mm. The rears might get spaced out as well by 5~10mm.
why ?
u don't need to space em out no more. It looks good as it is.
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They are 19x9 +25 and 19x10 +22. I am going to space out the front wheels by at least 10mm. Possibly 20mm. The rears might get spaced out as well by 5~10mm.
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why ?
u don't need to space em out no more. It looks good as it is.
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Dark Anghell wrote:
They are 19x9 +25 and 19x10 +22. I am going to space out the front wheels by at least 10mm. Possibly 20mm. The rears might get spaced out as well by 5~10mm.
Speaking of spacers, tried your wheels on yesterday *sorry :-X* and the rear tires wobbled like crazy. So Shawn and I had to crawl back to my garage and find out what was wrong.
I found out that the lugs werent catching all the way and it didnt tighten the first time I did them. Dumped the car and the fronts rub the fenders real bad.... :2funny: cant get any love man, its time for air.
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They are 19x9 +25 and 19x10 +22. I am going to space out the front wheels by at least 10mm. Possibly 20mm. The rears might get spaced out as well by 5~10mm.
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Speaking of spacers, tried your wheels on yesterday *sorry :-X* and the rear tires wobbled like crazy. So Shawn and I had to crawl back to my garage and find out what was wrong.
I found out that the lugs werent catching all the way and it didnt tighten the first time I did them. Dumped the car and the fronts rub the fenders real bad.... :2funny: cant get any love man, its time for air.
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PagongLS wrote:
Speaking of spacers, tried your wheels on yesterday *sorry :-X* and the rear tires wobbled like crazy. So Shawn and I had to crawl back to my garage and find out what was wrong.
I found out that the lugs werent catching all the way and it didnt tighten the first time I did them. Dumped the car and the fronts rub the fenders real bad.... :2funny: cant get any love man, its time for air.
:knuppel2: >:( :knuppel2: :tickedoff: :knuppel2: hahaha Thats fine I don't care if you drive on them or not. Try the good old hammer method and persuade the wheels to fit. Are the tires rubbing on the fender itself or the inner liner? If its the fender, you can remove the spacers.
Oh and post some pics.
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Speaking of spacers, tried your wheels on yesterday *sorry :-X* and the rear tires wobbled like crazy. So Shawn and I had to crawl back to my garage and find out what was wrong.
I found out that the lugs werent catching all the way and it didnt tighten the first time I did them. Dumped the car and the fronts rub the fenders real bad.... :2funny: cant get any love man, its time for air.
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:knuppel2: >:( :knuppel2: :tickedoff: :knuppel2: hahaha Thats fine I don't care if you drive on them or not. Try the good old hammer method and persuade the wheels to fit. Are the tires rubbing on the fender itself or the inner liner? If its the fender, you can remove the spacers.
Oh and post some pics.
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NICE Y33. WHATS THE SPECS ON YOUR RIMS??
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NICE Y33. WHATS THE SPECS ON YOUR RIMS??
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i took some pics of my 240 there before when i had it.. hahaha nice choice on where to take the pics.. although instead of dark you shoulda taken it when it was just getting dusk.. especially when its partly cloudy because the sun catches the clouds and turns it that pink or orange or whatever color and it reflects off your car and gives it a nice color.. maybe ill get to meet you on sunday..
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i took some pics of my 240 there before when i had it.. hahaha nice choice on where to take the pics.. although instead of dark you shoulda taken it when it was just getting dusk.. especially when its partly cloudy because the sun catches the clouds and turns it that pink or orange or whatever color and it reflects off your car and gives it a nice color.. maybe ill get to meet you on sunday..
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HG50 wrote:
NICE Y33. WHATS THE SPECS ON YOUR RIMS??
19X9 +25 19X10 +22
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NICE Y33. WHATS THE SPECS ON YOUR RIMS??
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19X9 +25 19X10 +22
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Niceee...
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Niceee...
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Nice Pavel...I thought they were +22 all around? no? Anyways, I never get tired of seeing a Y33 with those style rims...just fits like a glove...
Pagong, those rims hit the front fender on your UCF10? How did the rears fit? Would it fit with stretch tires?
*sigh*, I should have never sold those rims...would have looked so perfect with on the UCF10
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Nice Pavel...I thought they were +22 all around? no? Anyways, I never get tired of seeing a Y33 with those style rims...just fits like a glove...
Pagong, those rims hit the front fender on your UCF10? How did the rears fit? Would it fit with stretch tires?
*sigh*, I should have never sold those rims...would have looked so perfect with on the UCF10
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PMP-LEX wrote:
Pagong, those rims hit the front fender on your UCF10? How did the rears fit? Would it fit with stretch tires?
*sigh*, I should have never sold those rims...would have looked so perfect with on the UCF10
No not those wheels :) I dont think Pavel will let me borrow those since he just got them..
I borrowed his old set of 17's with the 4x4 tires on them...and I think I lowered my car too low. Okay let me rephrase that
the LS was on the ground and the spacers he had on them pushed them out and made it rub when I turn, or should I say
I cant even turn the car ;D
Had to turn a bit, then back up then turn a bit then back up again....Then Shawn ran behind the car to find out what the noise was and found out the rear driver side wheel was wobbling really bad. :(
Imma try it again this weekend for the meet though.
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Pagong, those rims hit the front fender on your UCF10? How did the rears fit? Would it fit with stretch tires?
*sigh*, I should have never sold those rims...would have looked so perfect with on the UCF10
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No not those wheels :) I dont think Pavel will let me borrow those since he just got them..
I borrowed his old set of 17's with the 4x4 tires on them...and I think I lowered my car too low. Okay let me rephrase that
the LS was on the ground and the spacers he had on them pushed them out and made it rub when I turn, or should I say
I cant even turn the car ;D
Had to turn a bit, then back up then turn a bit then back up again....Then Shawn ran behind the car to find out what the noise was and found out the rear driver side wheel was wobbling really bad. :(
Imma try it again this weekend for the meet though.
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Dammit Pavel, stop being to greedy...sharing is caring...let Vince use your rims...just for one day... :D
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Dammit Pavel, stop being to greedy...sharing is caring...let Vince use your rims...just for one day... :D
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love those rims
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love those rims
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PMP-LEX wrote:
Dammit Pavel, stop being to greedy...sharing is caring...let Vince use your rims...just for one day... :D
How about I photoshop them on Vinces car? Almost the same as actually trying them on ;D
Vince, just make sure the spacers are super tight first, then put the wheels on. Unless...unless your hubs are larger size than whats on my Q. Then they would wobble for sure.
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Dammit Pavel, stop being to greedy...sharing is caring...let Vince use your rims...just for one day... :D
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How about I photoshop them on Vinces car? Almost the same as actually trying them on ;D
Vince, just make sure the spacers are super tight first, then put the wheels on. Unless...unless your hubs are larger size than whats on my Q. Then they would wobble for sure.
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Dark Anghell wrote:
19X9 +25 19X10 +22
this has got to be the magic numbers for the Y33.
the fit and lip is just oh so perfect.
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19X9 +25 19X10 +22
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this has got to be the magic numbers for the Y33.
the fit and lip is just oh so perfect.
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nah...the magic numbers would be 19x9 +15 19x10 +20. That's with camber being fixed, so that it's within spec. If you run some camber up front and in the rear, you can go with 19x9 +0 and 19x10 +10 easily.
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nah...the magic numbers would be 19x9 +15 19x10 +20. That's with camber being fixed, so that it's within spec. If you run some camber up front and in the rear, you can go with 19x9 +0 and 19x10 +10 easily.
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Dark Anghell wrote:
Yeah Dorimon seems to be 1 step ahead of me...it sux I was gonna get BIPPU plate as well, but we can't have 2 Q's with same wheels and same plate ;D . At last I will have a different kit...then we'll no longer be twins.
Not really, I look at it like your still 1 step ahead of me with coilovers vs my TEIN springs. I have no problems with being twins, your on the other side of the states anyway, but if you were in my town, I'd still ask you to go cruising to any of the local events and meets. It would be cool to have another vipcar in the area. I hear ya on the daily driving with the lower setup. I know my roads, but I do travel with my car sometimes, so theres always unknown territory for me, even when my usual daily roads have these random repaving and uneven pavements. I've been watching a few JIC auctions, just waiting for the right price and condition before I place that bid to get my coilovers. Anyway, your car is looking awesome as usual, I like the pics.
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Yeah Dorimon seems to be 1 step ahead of me...it sux I was gonna get BIPPU plate as well, but we can't have 2 Q's with same wheels and same plate ;D . At last I will have a different kit...then we'll no longer be twins.
[/quote]Not really, I look at it like your still 1 step ahead of me with coilovers vs my TEIN springs. I have no problems with being twins, your on the other side of the states anyway, but if you were in my town, I'd still ask you to go cruising to any of the local events and meets. It would be cool to have another vipcar in the area. I hear ya on the daily driving with the lower setup. I know my roads, but I do travel with my car sometimes, so theres always unknown territory for me, even when my usual daily roads have these random repaving and uneven pavements. I've been watching a few JIC auctions, just waiting for the right price and condition before I place that bid to get my coilovers. Anyway, your car is looking awesome as usual, I like the pics.
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DORIMON wrote:
Not really, I look at it like your still 1 step ahead of me with coilovers vs my TEIN springs. I have no problems with being twins, your on the other side of the states anyway, but if you were in my town, I'd still ask you to go cruising to any of the local events and meets. It would be cool to have another vipcar in the area. I hear ya on the daily driving with the lower setup. I know my roads, but I do travel with my car sometimes, so theres always unknown territory for me, even when my usual daily roads have these random repaving and uneven pavements. I've been watching a few JIC auctions, just waiting for the right price and condition before I place that bid to get my coilovers. Anyway, your car is looking awesome as usual, I like the pics.
Well at least you have yours lowered..anything is better than nothing..for sure! I still don't have my $#!& lowered..I"m with you on those JIC's just waiting for the right ones...lol...I saw your steering wheel by the way..nice bro. good job you beat me to it.lol..Any ways both of you got some sick ass rides. Keep up the Mods :smitten:
CarlssonRL wrote:
this has got to be the magic numbers for the Y33.
the fit and lip is just oh so perfect.
Heres my magic number......
19x8.5+5 with a 225/35/19 Dunlop SP Sport Maxx
19x10+15 with a 255/30/19 Dunlop SP Sport Maxx
ooooh sooo sweeet. :-*
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Not really, I look at it like your still 1 step ahead of me with coilovers vs my TEIN springs. I have no problems with being twins, your on the other side of the states anyway, but if you were in my town, I'd still ask you to go cruising to any of the local events and meets. It would be cool to have another vipcar in the area. I hear ya on the daily driving with the lower setup. I know my roads, but I do travel with my car sometimes, so theres always unknown territory for me, even when my usual daily roads have these random repaving and uneven pavements. I've been watching a few JIC auctions, just waiting for the right price and condition before I place that bid to get my coilovers. Anyway, your car is looking awesome as usual, I like the pics.
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Well at least you have yours lowered..anything is better than nothing..for sure! I still don't have my $#!& lowered..I"m with you on those JIC's just waiting for the right ones...lol...I saw your steering wheel by the way..nice bro. good job you beat me to it.lol..Any ways both of you got some sick ass rides. Keep up the Mods :smitten:
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this has got to be the magic numbers for the Y33.
the fit and lip is just oh so perfect.
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Heres my magic number......
19x8.5+5 with a 225/35/19 Dunlop SP Sport Maxx
19x10+15 with a 255/30/19 Dunlop SP Sport Maxx
ooooh sooo sweeet. :-*
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CarlssonRL wrote:
this has got to be the magic numbers for the Y33.
the fit and lip is just oh so perfect.
Magic numbers? Nah, not even close :D
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this has got to be the magic numbers for the Y33.
the fit and lip is just oh so perfect.
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Magic numbers? Nah, not even close :D