ls400 drift car

Do you guys know of anyone who is building an ls400 drift car?

[quote=ernpob ]
Do you guys know of anyone who is building an ls400 drift car?
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well im guessing u want to. :P just curious why drift the ls400? it would be sick but depending on how it is styled. 

NO. thats what 240's are for. if you want a lexus drift car, go get an SC300, or a GS300, or an IS300. the LS400 is a flagship car. its not meant to be beat on. its meant to look good in. hoes dont jock cars with fuxord primered rear quarter panels and doors that wont open. 

Why would it be sick? I dont get the fascination with drifting anything that has RWD... 

On that note how many buses are on the drifting circuit? I can imagine a massive double-decker bus which has been stripped and roll-caged going sideways around a circuit...

No buses in drifting yet, but there is a dragster school bus.
Anyways, I'm one of those people who like to see unlikely cars drift, but I wouldn't want to see a fuxxored LS either, it has to be nice and no all stickered up
If you wanna drift though, by all means go for it

[quote=Caoboy ]
NO. thats what 240's are for. if you want a lexus drift car, go get an SC300, or a GS300, or an IS300. the LS400 is a flagship car. its not meant to be beat on. its meant to look good in. hoes dont jock cars with fuxord primered rear quarter panels and doors that wont open. 
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Heres why:

First Gen LS400-
:Cheap
:RWD
:Japanese
:Huge following in Japan (as a VIPcar not a drift car, but still it has roots...)


So your going to have these kids that want to get into it seeing this car as a possible platform. Lets face it UCF10/11's are OLD now, most of them are CHEAP. Sure the tranny and engine wont take that kind of beating, but judging from the other cars they try and use... they either don't think that far out, or dont care

Summary, the first gen LS's are cheap, RWD, and most of them are now beaters (not a Flagship anymore :2funny:) so let them take them and drift them. The older cars aren't even in the VIP scene in Japan anymore.

it would be sick in the first place because it is something different. it something out of the ordinary. if he has plans to work on a drifting LS, then let his mind imagine. but keep in mind that it won't be VIP. with that said, this should probably be moved to "off topic" since this is a VIPStylecars.com forum.

[quote=yakuzaSoarer ]


Summary, the first gen LS's are cheap, RWD, and most of them are now beaters (not a Flagship anymore :2funny:) 
 The older cars aren't even in the VIP scene in Japan anymore.
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 :'(

I am sooo glad that I live in the US :2funny:

The LS400 is such a nice car, don't turn it into a drift car (the newer models anyways).

[quote=PagongLS ]
 :'(

I am sooo glad that I live in the US :2funny:



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me and you both brother. haha its still vip around here. people still jock it just because its a 'lexus'. and yes some are cheap, yet some are still quite up there in the price range, depending on how well it s been taken care of. 

me 3 us baby haha. ;D just its the rwd thing people go nuts because its not the ordinary platform and ofcourse you can't drift fwd duh.
unless you are a uncle of ben then you completely thrash your e-brake on your prelude lol. :2funny:

Keep. Lexus. VIP. Sure it would be different, but what would happen if drifting 400's would become the next big thing? Then what would happen to VIP? Next it would be drifting GS300s or Q45's and before you know it our culture just blends into the fabric of the modified automobile industry. Lexus is VIP, Corollas are drifting and IMO it should be kept that way.

Seems like Ive seen this somewhere before this time :-X

my oppinon vip/drift car would be a chaser/mark 2 :P or gs like the hks one

Thanks Guys for all your inputs some bad and some good. But as with most things it comes down to money and chicks.
The early ls400 UCF10/11 are cheap. I can buy one at an auction for $500.00 and I can get a 1UZFE long block from a local wreak yard for $200.00. And now JIC and TEIN are offering great suspension up grades. Not to metion BLITZ's supercharger for the 3UZFE. But most of all chicks dig luxury cars. ;)

^that's a good point. But chicks don't dig getting thrown around until they puke. Keep in mind your average date will be more interested in leather seats and mood lighting than a roll bar and tire smoke.
On the other hand, it's not like Lexus drifting is new. Taniguchi has his Aristo and an Altezza prepped for drift.
Also, big Japanese cars aren't that uncommon either. In 2004 somone was drifting a big ass thing (Toyota something, I forget what) and there are Mark2s, C33s, Chasers etc..
I'm in favour of the project if it makes you happy.

[quote=ernpob ]
  Not to metion BLITZ's supercharger for the 3UZFE. But most of all chicks dig luxury cars. ;)
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I would check this first before you plunk down the money on the BLITZ supercharger. 
The 3UZ and the 1UZ are two totally different engines. You should look into [url]www.lextreme.com[/url] .

[quote=PagongLS ]
I would check this first before you plunk down the money on the BLITZ supercharger. 
The 3UZ and the 1UZ are two totally different engines. You should look into [url]www.lextreme.com[/url] .
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yeah dont spend your money on the motor yet. if you get your LS400 for 500 dollars at the auction, put all that money you saved up for it towards suspension/rims/kit/paint. get it loooking nice. those coilovers' specs arent really drift specs also, they are a lot softer than what most 'drifters' are used to, well the ones that actually drift, and put in actual race suspension in their cars. 

and pagong, i was reading on lextreme, and i think the heads are interchangeable. you might want to look that up, i know they were working with using 2uz's and i think 3uz's and putting 1uz heads on there because it was so easy to work with I.E porting/polishing, and they were cheap. soo...if someone REALLY wanted to supercharge the first gen that way, i think they would just need to figure out the head swapping situation and then have to come up with the money for the supercharger haha. even with all that, you still have that problem with the automatic. most REAL drifters, they dont have automatics. thats a whole notha ball game. 

[quote=firelizard ]
 In 2004 somone was drifting a big ass thing (Toyota something, I forget what) 
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Are you thinking of the Verossa?
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[quote=Caoboy ]
 pagong, i was reading on lextreme, and i think the heads are interchangeable. you might want to look that up, i know they were working with using 2uz's and i think 3uz's and putting 1uz heads on there because it was so easy to work with I.E porting/polishing, and they were cheap. soo...if someone REALLY wanted to supercharge the first gen that way, i think they would just need to figure out the head swapping situation and then have to come up with the money for the supercharger haha. even with all that, you still have that problem with the automatic. most REAL drifters, they dont have automatics. thats a whole notha ball game. 
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Yes heads are interchangeable, but the intake manifold isnt. 

The newer intake manifolds sits a bit higher then the 1UZ's and fitting a supercharger on top of a 3UZ will make it taller, hence will not fit under the hood of a 1st gen. LS.

If I were this guy, I would just do a single turbo and boost the hell out of the motor....go dorifto :laugh:

[quote=JDMpimp ]
Are you thinking of the Verossa?
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Yep that's the one. I remember thinking it looked like a big ugly baby whale. It drifted like one too :uglystupid2:

[quote=firelizard ]
Yep that's the one. I remember thinking it looked like a big ugly baby whale. It drifted like one too :uglystupid2:
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go watch saisoku. you will see how 'crappy' they are. theyre pretty awesome. alot better than a protoge! 

video of (3) 4 door sedan's drifting.

[url]http://www.buckaloose.com/temp/street_drift.wmv[/url]

ill post the video of a verosa drifting later.

I wonder if there are members on a benz/bemer forum asking if there is anybody drifting a S-class and/or 7 series? 

Nahhh! nobody is that crazy to ask such a silly question. ???

[quote=TLontheDL ]
I wonder if there are members on a benz/bemer forum asking if there is anybody drifting a S-class and/or 7 series? 

Nahhh! nobody is that crazy to ask such a silly question. ???
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they're too scared to drift their luxury or just dont know how. 

[quote=username ]
they're too scared to drift their luxury or just dont know how. 
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not true....the europeans are crazy drivers. there was a video floating around zilvia i think, of a guy drifting an m3 hatch (looked like a z3 but was an M3 go figure) and was doing it in the middle of the city. the guy was crazy.those people drive their cars pretty crazy too...

[quote=Caoboy ]
not true....the europeans are crazy drivers. there was a video floating around zilvia i think, of a guy drifting an m3 hatch (looked like a z3 but was an M3 go figure) and was doing it in the middle of the city. the guy was crazy.those people drive their cars pretty crazy too...
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I think you're talking about the latest Ghostrider movie (or a trailer of that particular DVD). Someone in a BMW M Coupe (yeh that's what it's called)
was doing some proper drifting while being "chased" by Mr. Ghostrider? (dressed as a cop on a police bike). Obviously everything was set up,
with cameras all over the place etc. Kinda entertaining though :idiot2:

As for drifting huge sedans... I think I've seen a video of some Aristos doing a bit of drifting ???. Can't remember where or when :-\

[quote=Caoboy ]
go watch saisoku. you will see how 'crappy' they are. theyre pretty awesome. alot better than a protoge! 
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Do you have a link do it?
I saw the Verosa in a D1 comp, it didn't fare well, but that was the only time I saw one drifting.
Lots of things are better than a Protege. :idiot2:

good luck with that......

 :crazy2:

I hope he gets in a horrible accident but walks away alive to see his car burn to the ground. Idiots shouldn't be allowed to modify cars.

[quote=firelizard ]
Do you have a link do it?
I saw the Verosa in a D1 comp, it didn't fare well, but that was the only time I saw one drifting.
Lots of things are better than a Protege. :idiot2:
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you have to buy it kid. its pretty cool, they dont have any vip segments though. 

Oh okay, I'll look for it. 
btw, if I can find the clip of the Verosa I have, and post it. I'm pretty sure it's the same car JDMPimp posted

I dunno, I personally think that a "Drift" LS would be kinda neet. But I think I would get hard over the challenge more than I would over the out come.  ;)

[quote=Brandicus ]
good luck with that......

 :crazy2:
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that made me spit.. cuz it made me think of the commercials for the spongebob squarepants movie where the bad guy goes "I will rule the world!" and spongebob replies... "well, good luck with that." 

[quote=viplife ]
video of (3) 4 door sedan's drifting.

[url]http://www.buckaloose.com/temp/street_drift.wmv[/url]

ill post the video of a verosa drifting later.
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is it just me or is the lead car an auto?

[quote=One Ton VIP ]
that made me spit.. cuz it made me think of the commercials for the spongebob squarepants movie where the bad guy goes "I will rule the world!" and spongebob replies... "well, good luck with that." 
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Spongebob is awesome, but i would never admit that publicly..  ;D

I think its sweet that you wanna mod a ls to drift. I love big cars that drift like the SC and GS. :crazy2:   I have never seen an LS drift. 

Also look into the Lincoln LS. The V6 model comes in manual. 

O and there are REAL DRIFTERS that drift with AUto. In D1GP there are 2 guys that drift Auto S14. O and i drift at auto hehe. :o

[quote=drft240mayfield ]
I think its sweet that you wanna mod a ls to drift. I love big cars that drift like the SC and GS. :crazy2:   I have never seen an LS drift. 

Also look into the Lincoln LS. The V6 model comes in manual. 

O and there are REAL DRIFTERS that drift with AUto. In D1GP there are 2 guys that drift Auto S14. O and i drift at auto hehe. :o
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Really? Who? I never noticed

This thread is turning into a big ass joke. Can the mod of this section please delete this or lock it. :knuppel2:

Well let me try to get this thread back on topic.

First off...an LS is not an ideal candidate for a drift car, in all honesty, if it was it would have been done a long time ago.

Lightening the load of the LS would be needed..removal of seats, sound deadening materials all other excess components would have to be done as well. Power will be needed since the stock motor is 8 cylinders of pure eco conservative horsepower. Let's see ... dropping in a 1J or something turbo will be ideal. Adding a Ti exhaust would also be nice.

Let's see...to compare this idea to Ueno's D1 Soarer...you would have to get into all the details he went into. Titanium bolts to replace some of the stock bolts. Removal off entire interior. CF doors and hood...dry carbon at that. Built 450hp motor.

I guess what I am trying to say is...unless you have deep pockets...and DEDICATION...the LS is not the ideal drift VIP platform.

Chris

or dump in a 2jzge-t with 600hp and say screw titanium bolts for a fraction of the cost

[quote=young gun ]
or dump in a 2jzge-t with 600hp and say screw titanium bolts for a fraction of the cost
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Big power isn't everything. Controlling a long wheel base car with crap ass suspension and gobs of HP is easier said than done. Do you use the "power over" technique in all your drifts?

Chris

no saying its ideal, but it would be fun to watch, kind of like watching a stripper fall of stage

[quote=young gun ]
no saying its ideal, but it would be fun to watch, kind of like watching a stripper fall of stage
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or a "drift LS400" crash into something

its 2jz-gte. automatic cars suck for drifting. especially at highspeed to lowspeed transitions/viceversa. why do you think everyone that 'drifts' automatic cars are looking for 5speed swaps? haha

[quote=Caoboy ]
its 2jz-gte. automatic cars suck for drifting. especially at highspeed to lowspeed transitions/viceversa.  why do you think everyone that 'drifts' automatic cars are looking for 5speed swaps? haha
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who said auto?

I wouldn't want to see a half-assed drift LS, it would be embarassing...just like I don't think a stripper falling off stage is funny. 
SpeedAlliance is 100% right though, it would take a lot of stripping of the car, custom one-off carbon fiber parts, careful suspension/chassis tuning, and a lot of attention to detail, because the LS has nothing in common with your average drift car besides the RWD. To put things into perspective: it took less work to convert a Paseo to RWD drift, than it would to make a competitive drifter out of an LS, due to design and weight factors. Also the lack of aftermarket support in the drift department for LSs and other big cars would make even finding parts a challenge, and expensive.

ls weighs 300lbs more than a cressida and 200 less than a q45 and people drift both of those, wheres the beef?

[quote=drft240mayfield ]
I think its sweet that you wanna mod a ls to drift. I love big cars that drift like the SC and GS. :crazy2:  I have never seen an LS drift. 

Also look into the Lincoln LS. The V6 model comes in manual. 

O and there are [b] REAL DRIFTERS that drift with AUto.[/b] In D1GP there are 2 guys that drift Auto S14. O and i drift at auto hehe. :o
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this guy did.

[quote=young gun ]
ls weighs 300lbs more than a cressida and 200 less than a q45 and people drift both of those, wheres the beef?
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since when do people drift q45's? 

what exactly is wrong with keeping the stock motor and modding it? the 1-UZ has potential for gobs of power and its extremely reliable 8)

yea econo power you need ext mods to produce good numbers on the ls. 

[quote=Brandicus ]
what exactly is wrong with keeping the stock motor and modding it? the 1-UZ has potential for gobs of power and its extremely reliable  8)
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EXPENSIVE! remember the guy started the thread thought the LS would be a good idea for a drift car because its cheap and RWD. But aftermarket performance for the 1UZ is far from cheap. 

wow....take a look at this...wow..hhahahaha... :2funny:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/w/Lexus%20IS300%20Doing%20Donuts?v=kV7ZMgQvJX0&eurl=[/url]

just found it on the net...

breaking up the seriousness in the post..my bad

idiot. haha good ole understeer. 

[quote=Caoboy ]
since when do people drift q45's? 
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I will...

[quote=RASRX7 ]
wow....take a look at this...wow..hhahahaha... :2funny:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/w/Lexus%20IS300%20Doing%20Donuts?v=kV7ZMgQvJX0&eurl=[/url]

just found it on the net...

breaking up the seriousness in the post..my bad
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"YOUR A STUPID DUMB FAGGOT!!!! I SHOULD KICK YOR ASS FOR THAT!!!FUCKING PATEHTIC"  hahahah all the comments had me laughing :D 

that vid made my feel really good about my life hahahaha :2funny:

that has to be the crappiest donut ive ever seen....

on the LS drifter topic......the real question is, is it worth it? Just seems like a lot of work to be "different" or "unique" or even "rebelious".

hey you should by my LS! hahah, its got 'dorifto' damage now. (JK i got hit)

I think a ls drift machine would be sweet I have pics of one in a old drift tengoku mag.

I say let them do it, makes what were trying to do a bit more exclusive

theres no celsior drift car, but theres a Crown Majesta drift car is japan,  a few of them actually.  celsior isn't actually toyota's flagship car either for those who this it is.  its actually the toyota Crown. and if u think otherwise, maybe the toyota century.

BUT yes theres in fact a drift majesta.

[quote=CharismaY33;2698]yea econo power you need ext mods to produce good numbers on the ls.[/quote]

define "good" numbers?  This econo power talk is funny.  Sure, it's not sporting performance heads..  but, what NA motor doesn't require external modification to make more power?!  I'll presume  you are talking about forced induction as an External modification.

[quote=jun;27595]theres no celsior drift car, but theres a Crown Majesta drift car is japan,  a few of them actually.  celsior isn't actually toyota's flagship car either for those who this it is.  its actually the toyota Crown. and if u think otherwise, maybe the toyota century.

BUT yes theres in fact a drift majesta.[/quote]

Celsior is what started flagship (FQ or F1).

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its way too big to drift imo....but all the Saudis drift their 7 series BMWs. Its up to you dude, not my car

i do it let me find my old vid at an event.

oh god, when is this thread ever gonna die?

[QUOTE=nizzan4u2nv;102592]oh god, when is this thread ever gonna die?[/QUOTE]
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Had enough yet??

Sponsored by WANLi :pat:

Too bad that Q doesn't have some half-decent wheels, and is all stickered up.
It looks less classy than a lot of amateur S-chassis cars

At least all his body panels match up, and hey, if I were sponsored by wanli, i wouldn't care, that's free tires to burn up. roll something better on the street.

ugh
you guys are so closed minded

if he was gonna put an Insurace kit, Euroline DHs, and a snazzy exhaust, youd say its VIP

but the instance it goes sideways, its instantly NOT?
i say do it man.

[QUOTE=Yokotas13;102806]ugh
 the instance it goes sideways, its instantly NOT?
i say do it man.[/QUOTE]

More like the instance it was covered in stickers and rocking Sportmax wheels.

[QUOTE=firelizard;102826]More like the instance it was covered in stickers and rocking Sportmax wheels.[/QUOTE]
Which he pays nothing for.  The stickers you see are from sponsors.  Why is this even being discussed as such?  I just showed a "vip chassis" drifting...that is all.  I think it's badass that he's doing what others won't even think of, let alone try.  Who cares if it looks the way it currently does, he actually wants to get aero...and that's actually a zenki...he installed the kouki front and the car is powered by an RB25DET.  It's a competition car...not a show car.

Hey, I'm not dissecting the reasons for the way it looks, I'm just saying that  it's not vip styled, or even classy.
I've got nothing against it as a drift car. Though I do think it could look a lot better.

[QUOTE=firelizard;102840]Hey, I'm not dissecting the reasons for the way it looks, I'm just saying that  it's not vip styled, or even classy.
I've got nothing against it as a drift car. Though I do think it could look a lot better.[/QUOTE]
You're missing the boat...

This is a competition car..classy is nice, but in a competitive sport it equals boring where things need to be flashy to gain attention and heighten excitement.  Of course it could look better...he plans to make it better, but drifting still costs money...more than many of you think (those who haven't been involved in it).  I had thought this was about using a vip chassis as a drift car?  Not make my vip car a drift car...although that's totally possible.

[url]http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/biggslava/?action=view&current=GreeleyDriftEventOctober7th2006030.flv[/url]

LS has a better steering angle than an sc...yet people swear SC's are great drift cars....not. :( 
 
 
1uzfe Autos are good for weight transfer and 'power over' if youve got sum heat under the hood....which isnt cheap or easy. An LS with a 2jz would be pimp tho ;)

[QUOTE=elpresidente;102848]You're missing the boat...

This is a competition car..classy is nice, but in a competitive sport it equals boring where things need to be flashy to gain attention and heighten excitement.  Of course it could look better...he plans to make it better, but drifting still costs money...more than many of you think (those who haven't been involved in it).  I had thought this was about using a vip chassis as a drift car?  Not make my vip car a drift car...although that's totally possible.[/QUOTE]

lol I get it I get it:biggthumpup: 

one little comment and you'd think I was smashing the car with a hammer:pat:

[QUOTE=firelizard;102892]lol I get it I get it:biggthumpup:[/QUOTE]
thanks for not taking that the wrong way.  I was only making conversation..not meaning to ruffle feathers... :smiley:

[quote=DriftGirl;102891]LS has a better steering angle than an sc...yet people swear SC's are great drift cars....not. :( 
 
 
1uzfe Autos are good for weight transfer and 'power over' if youve got sum heat under the hood....which isnt cheap or easy. An LS with a 2jz would be pimp tho ;)[/quote]

people think sc's are great drift cars because ueno had one, and drifted with it. 

i'm sure if he had an ls400, people would think the same thing.

aint that the truth