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Hydroholics Lexus IS250

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OCKlasseJune 8, 2009
#251342

Hydroholics Lexus IS250

My bro finally juiced his new ride!

All Hydroholics.net 2 pump 6 dump setup, 4 Parker accumulators, 3 Kinetik batteries

20" Vossen VVS075 (20 * 9, 20 * 10.5)

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My bro finally juiced his new ride!

All Hydroholics.net 2 pump 6 dump setup, 4 Parker accumulators, 3 Kinetik batteries

20" Vossen VVS075 (20 * 9, 20 * 10.5)

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mrkiddJune 8, 2009
#251349
sick.....is how do you like the hydros over air....i understand maintainace on hydros is intense but what about the ride comfort...?
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sick.....is how do you like the hydros over air....i understand maintainace on hydros is intense but what about the ride comfort...?
elpresidenteJune 8, 2009
#251355
Maintenance isn't as bad as you think. A lot has changed...
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Maintenance isn't as bad as you think.  A lot has changed...
OCKlasseJune 8, 2009
#251359
elpresidente;251355 wrote:Maintenance isn't as bad as you think. A lot has changed...


+1.

The only "routine" maintenance is charging the batteries once every 2-3 weeks if the car is a daily driver. Other than that, I went two and a half years before I needed to change my seals.

Ride is great by the way. But most never believe me until they take a ride in the car...
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[QUOTE=elpresidente;251355]Maintenance isn't as bad as you think.  A lot has changed...[/QUOTE]

+1.

The only "routine" maintenance is charging the batteries once every 2-3 weeks if the car is a daily driver. Other than that, I went two and a half years before I needed to change my seals.

Ride is great by the way. But most never believe me until they take a ride in the car...
mrkenjiJune 8, 2009
#251369
PRETTY CLEAN SET UP..
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PRETTY CLEAN SET UP..
SKperformanceJune 9, 2009
#251533
Give props on the cleaness and simplicity of the install , great work .
Just, using an IS 250 for hydro ?
Its unibody is weak as hell and will bend faster than my ls400 on air as it has.
Definatly look at getting it spot welded at the seams to keep it tight.
Nice job.
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Give props on the cleaness and simplicity of the install , great work .
Just, using an IS 250 for hydro ?
Its unibody is weak as hell and will bend faster than my ls400 on air as it has.
Definatly look at getting it spot welded at the seams to keep it tight.
Nice job.
Green PouponJune 9, 2009
#251538
I love your brother and his magical suspension. Is he leaving the batterys and system in the trunk like that or is he going to build an enclosure around it?
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I love your brother and his magical suspension. Is he leaving the batterys and system in the trunk like that or is he going to build an enclosure around it?
OCKlasseJune 9, 2009
#251548
SKperformance;251533 wrote:Give props on the cleaness and simplicity of the install , great work .
Just, using an IS 250 for hydro ?
Its unibody is weak as hell and will bend faster than my ls400 on air as it has.
Definatly look at getting it spot welded at the seams to keep it tight.
Nice job.


Nah. The unibody is fine. Never been an issue on any of his cars. Mine is still tip-top as well after 30,000 miles and a few years.
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[QUOTE=SKperformance;251533]Give props on the cleaness and simplicity of the install , great work .
Just, using an IS 250 for hydro ?
Its unibody is weak as hell and will bend faster than my ls400 on air as it has.
Definatly look at getting it spot welded at the seams to keep it tight.
Nice job.[/QUOTE]

Nah. The unibody is fine. Never been an issue on any of his cars. Mine is still tip-top as well after 30,000 miles and a few years.
OCKlasseJune 9, 2009
#251550
Green Grundel;251538 wrote:I love your brother and his magical suspension. Is he leaving the batterys and system in the trunk like that or is he going to build an enclosure around it?


Just leave as is. My brother likes things clean and simple :biggthumpup:
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[QUOTE=Green Grundel;251538]I love your brother and his magical suspension. Is he leaving the batterys and system in the trunk like that or is he going to build an enclosure around it?[/QUOTE]

Just leave as is. My brother likes things clean and simple :biggthumpup:
VipDoutJune 9, 2009
#251551
damn your bros work is fawqing sick .. another nice ass ride ...

Props .. we gotta see the height this gets too post that aswell !
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damn your bros work is fawqing sick .. another nice ass ride ... 

Props .. we gotta see the height this gets too post that aswell !
OCKlasseJune 9, 2009
#251553
Bippu PxrLex;251551 wrote:damn your bros work is fawqing sick .. another nice ass ride ...

Props .. we gotta see the height this gets too post that aswell !


I'll put in a special request for you :biggthumpup:
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[QUOTE=Bippu PxrLex;251551]damn your bros work is fawqing sick .. another nice ass ride ... 

Props .. we gotta see the height this gets too post that aswell ![/QUOTE]

I'll put in a special request for you :biggthumpup:
nizzan4u2nvJune 9, 2009
#251554
That thing is sick. Wheels arent my cup of tea though.
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That thing is sick. Wheels arent my cup of tea though.
4play4drJune 10, 2009
#251758
so for hydros..is ride height jus all the way up? like higher than stock?or can u adjust it like air? id like to see some videos if u have any
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so for hydros..is ride height jus all the way up? like higher than stock?or can u adjust it like air? id like to see some videos if u have any
Green PouponJune 10, 2009
#251763
I forgot to ask, do you know if you can set the hydraulics to stop at a certain point or does it operate fully extended to fully compressed?
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I forgot to ask, do you know if you can set the hydraulics to stop at a certain point or does it operate fully extended to fully compressed?
OCKlasseJune 10, 2009
#251767
Green Grundel;251763 wrote:I forgot to ask, do you know if you can set the hydraulics to stop at a certain point or does it operate fully extended to fully compressed?


Are you asking in the sense of always having a specific drive height or just not wanting to tuck too much?
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[QUOTE=Green Grundel;251763]I forgot to ask, do you know if you can set the hydraulics to stop at a certain point or does it operate fully extended to fully compressed?[/QUOTE]

Are you asking in the sense of always having a specific drive height or just not wanting to tuck too much?
OCKlasseJune 10, 2009
#251768
4play4dr;251758 wrote:so for hydros..is ride height jus all the way up? like higher than stock?or can u adjust it like air? id like to see some videos if u have any


Ride height is 100% adjustable to where you want it to be. If I'm cruising PCH, I lift the car up half an inch and drive super carefully. If I'm in a rush and just need to go, then this is my height:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKv7PF0515Q
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[QUOTE=4play4dr;251758]so for hydros..is ride height jus all the way up? like higher than stock?or can u adjust it like air? id like to see some videos if u have any[/QUOTE]

Ride height is 100% adjustable to where you want it to be. If I'm cruising PCH, I lift the car up half an inch and drive super carefully. If I'm in a rush and just need to go, then this is my height:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKv7PF0515Q[/url]
VipDoutJune 10, 2009
#251772
haha love that sounds .... Miss my bros Hopper ;(


all in all good work and the hydros guys can Get WAYYYY higher then air guys IMO If needed
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haha love that sounds .... Miss my bros Hopper ;( 


all in all good work and the hydros guys can Get WAYYYY higher then air guys IMO If needed
jaynick808June 10, 2009
#251778
daaamn. thing is tuckin those 20's. i too would like to see a fully raised shot or better yet a video of it in action!
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daaamn. thing is tuckin those 20's. i too would like to see a fully raised shot or better yet a video of it in action!
iSuxeLJune 10, 2009
#251865
No wonder you're so defensive over on CL LOL it's your brothers car! I hope you didn't take my posts too bad cause my intentions were to just show you that I can tuck 20s with air that's all.
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No wonder you're so defensive over on CL LOL it's your brothers car! I hope you didn't take my posts too bad cause my intentions were to just show you that I can tuck 20s with air that's all.
OCKlasseJune 10, 2009
#251888
iSuxeL;251865 wrote:No wonder you're so defensive over on CL LOL it's your brothers car! I hope you didn't take my posts too bad cause my intentions were to just show you that I can tuck 20s with air that's all.


Eh, it's all good. That forum is too closed-minded though. :shrug:
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[QUOTE=iSuxeL;251865]No wonder you're so defensive over on CL LOL it's your brothers car! I hope you didn't take my posts too bad cause my intentions were to just show you that I can tuck 20s with air that's all.[/QUOTE]

Eh, it's all good. That forum is too closed-minded though. :shrug:
el maestroJune 11, 2009
#252013
All this speak about how smooth they actually ride and maintenance has got me thinking....air or hydros?!

Anyways looks on point....great job
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All this speak about how smooth they actually ride and maintenance has got me thinking....air or hydros?!

Anyways looks on point....great job
Green PouponJune 11, 2009
#252084
OCKlasse;251767 wrote:Are you asking in the sense of always having a specific drive height or just not wanting to tuck too much?


I am concerned the kit will be wrecked cause the car will drop lower then the kit makes it. Also I am curious if I can set a ride height. I've been playing around with some ideas that would make it difficult to get it to sit right.
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[QUOTE=OCKlasse;251767]Are you asking in the sense of always having a specific drive height or just not wanting to tuck too much?[/QUOTE]

I am concerned the kit will be wrecked cause the car will drop lower then the kit makes it. Also I am curious if I can set a ride height. I've been playing around with some ideas that would make it difficult to get it to sit right.
trefiveJune 13, 2009
#252379
Green Grundel;252084 wrote:I am concerned the kit will be wrecked cause the car will drop lower then the kit makes it. Also I am curious if I can set a ride height. I've been playing around with some ideas that would make it difficult to get it to sit right.


You can set it up via the adjustable threads and/or cylinder extensions to where it lays out exactly how you want it to and not destroy your kit.
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[QUOTE=Green Grundel;252084]I am concerned the kit will be wrecked cause the car will drop lower then the kit makes it. Also I am curious if I can set a ride height. I've been playing around with some ideas that would make it difficult to get it to sit right.[/QUOTE]

You can set it up via the adjustable threads and/or cylinder extensions to where it lays out exactly how you want it to and not destroy your kit.
OCKlasseJune 15, 2009
#252568
HYDROHOLICS.NET,Jun 14 2009, 04:07 PM~14188051 wrote:
Bored today, took a few more pics...

Locked up
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Just kidding
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[quote=HYDROHOLICS.NET,Jun 14 2009, 04:07 PM~14188051]
Bored today, took a few more pics...

Locked up
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v373/trefiveincognito/Lex/IS250001.jpg[/img]

Just kidding
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toyomatt84June 15, 2009
#252580
Dang, that's impressive! Such a large stroke on the hydraulics.
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Dang, that's impressive!  Such a large stroke on the hydraulics.
el maestroJune 15, 2009
#252609
holy shit thats high
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holy shit thats high
RaCinStylezJune 15, 2009
#252625
hol shit that bitch gets high!
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hol shit that bitch gets high!
Green PouponJune 15, 2009
#252657
RX350!!
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[SIZE="6"]RX350!![/SIZE]
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Lexus SoarerJune 16, 2009
#252712
Hydros on the IS are sick! Do you have a video of them in action?
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Hydros on the IS are sick! Do you have a video of them in action?
VipDoutJune 16, 2009
#252776
right on Thanks for posting them up bro , Nice work again
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right on Thanks for posting them up bro , Nice work again
ALEXTHESUS*PECTJune 16, 2009
#252783
no bump to high...............
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no bump to high...............
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---SCweet 1---June 16, 2009
#252784
Very nice. I love Hydraulics.
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Very nice. I love Hydraulics.
OCKlasseJune 16, 2009
#252843
haha...

Well, you never bottom out. That's for sure!
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haha...

Well, you never bottom out. That's for sure!
carlosJune 16, 2009
#252875
holy shit thats high. lol, i love it.
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holy shit thats high. lol, i love it.
jaynick808June 16, 2009
#252900
id kill for that much lift! if i could find a quality shop id so get hydraulics.
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id kill for that much lift! if i could find a quality shop id so get hydraulics.
tbrackJune 22, 2009
#253798
I wish I had a good shop here to do it, I never knew how awesome hydro really is now.

On a side note, I work in Montgomery, AL a lot which is home of the donks. If I had hydros I could ride VIP style till I get there and ride DONK around town :smiley-rofl:
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I wish I had a good shop here to do it, I never knew how awesome hydro really is now.

On a side note, I work in Montgomery, AL a lot which is home of the donks.  If I had hydros I could ride VIP style till I get there and ride DONK around town :smiley-rofl:
luciferiJuly 6, 2009
#256746
mrkidd;251349 wrote:sick.....is how do you like the hydros over air....i understand maintainace on hydros is intense but what about the ride comfort...?


The ride is great. I have ridden in Brandons car and it rides very well on the freeway. Actually a little soft in the rear. The accumuators can be charged to different pressures to give the ride feel you want.

Personally, I will never put air on a car again
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[QUOTE=mrkidd;251349]sick.....is how do you like the hydros over air....i understand maintainace on hydros is intense but what about the ride comfort...?[/QUOTE]

The ride is great. I have ridden in Brandons car and it rides very well on the freeway. Actually a little soft in the rear. The accumuators can be charged to different pressures to give the ride feel you want.

Personally, I will never put air on a car again
optioniiJuly 6, 2009
#256751
OCKlasse;252568 wrote:


How much does something like this go for?
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[QUOTE=OCKlasse;252568][/QUOTE]

How much does something like this go for?
OCKlasseJuly 7, 2009
#256782
optionii;256751 wrote:How much does something like this go for?


A clean install like this runs around $3500 installed.
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[QUOTE=optionii;256751]How much does something like this go for?[/QUOTE]

A clean install like this runs around $3500 installed.
sunny dJuly 8, 2009
#257008
hahah now thats truckin!
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hahah now thats truckin!
Platinum-VIPJuly 8, 2009
#257015
damn thats sickkk!!!!
i gotta check this out in person!
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damn thats sickkk!!!!
i gotta check this out in person!
KDotVJuly 8, 2009
#257028
looks very clean...

off topic, but if you dont mind what kind of tint/percentage is on that IS?
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looks very clean...
 
off topic, but if you dont mind what kind of tint/percentage is on that IS?
trefiveJuly 8, 2009
#257030
Good question about the tint %. My guess is 10% rears and 20% front?

The ride is great...the bigger the bump, the more the car absorbs it. I have my accumulators charged pretty high at 500psi, but I think it was a little more stiffer when it was in the 350-400 range.
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Good question about the tint %.  My guess is 10% rears and 20% front?  

The ride is great...the bigger the bump, the more the car absorbs it.  I have my accumulators charged pretty high at 500psi, but I think it was a little more stiffer when it was in the 350-400 range.
actolexJuly 8, 2009
#257035
How much weight did all that gear add? I'm wondering how the 250's engine performs wtih all the extra stuff.....
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How much weight did all that gear add?  I'm wondering how the 250's engine performs wtih all the extra stuff.....
carlosJuly 8, 2009
#257038
The batteries are about 50-60lbs each, the pumps i have no idea, the wheels are a bit heavier than the stocks. i would guess there is about an extra 300lbs.
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The batteries are about 50-60lbs each, the pumps i have no idea, the wheels are a bit heavier than the stocks. i would guess there is about an extra 300lbs.
VJ_400July 8, 2009
#257091
i bet it rides worse than my s14
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i bet it rides worse than my s14
trefiveJuly 8, 2009
#257111
Batteries are 50lbs each and the pumps are 30 each. About 230lbs plus the wheels I guess.

I am going to do a video soon demonstrating how nice this car rides. If there is anyone local in the Phoenix area that wants to take a ride as a testimonial on this thread, you're more than welcome to.
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Batteries are 50lbs each and the pumps are 30 each.  About 230lbs plus the wheels I guess.  

I am going to do a video soon demonstrating how nice this car rides.  If there is anyone local in the Phoenix area that wants to take a ride as a testimonial on this thread, you're more than welcome to.
carlosJuly 8, 2009
#257113
The weight of the wheels probably makes a bigger difference than the hydraulics.
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The weight of the wheels probably makes a bigger difference than the hydraulics.
OCKlasseJuly 9, 2009
#257328
Since when are VIP guys so into how much weight they're adding onto their cars? :pat:
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Since when are VIP guys so into how much weight they're adding onto their cars? :pat:
elpresidenteJuly 9, 2009
#257335
Hahaha, I know right? I mean my car weighs over 2 tons..what's 100lbs in batteries?
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Hahaha, I know right?  I mean my car weighs over 2 tons..what's 100lbs in batteries?
OCKlasseJuly 9, 2009
#257336
elpresidente;257335 wrote:Hahaha, I know right? I mean my car weighs over 2 tons..what's 100lbs in batteries?


I see a new hybrid of performance/VIP guys emerging...VIPP :smiley-rofl:
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[QUOTE=elpresidente;257335]Hahaha, I know right?  I mean my car weighs over 2 tons..what's 100lbs in batteries?[/QUOTE]

I see a new hybrid of performance/VIP guys emerging...VIPP :smiley-rofl:
widebody_QJuly 10, 2009
#257562
^LOL

I am seriously considering going this route. You can drive over dead Bears on the highway with that lift
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^LOL
 
I am seriously considering going this route.  You can drive over dead Bears on the highway with that lift
carlosJuly 10, 2009
#257613
elpresidente;257335 wrote:Hahaha, I know right? I mean my car weighs over 2 tons..what's 100lbs in batteries?


you have a V8... the IS250 has an anemic V6. 204hp and 185lb ft of torque. it was slow to begin with.
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[QUOTE=elpresidente;257335]Hahaha, I know right?  I mean my car weighs over 2 tons..what's 100lbs in batteries?[/QUOTE]

you have a V8... the IS250 has an anemic V6. 204hp and 185lb ft of torque. it was slow to begin with.
OCKlasseJuly 10, 2009
#257680
carlos;257613 wrote:you have a V8... the IS250 has an anemic V6. 204hp and 185lb ft of torque. it was slow to begin with.


Obviously he doesn't care about performance like you do.

I have a four cylinder that Dynos at 143whp. :smiley-rofl:
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[QUOTE=carlos;257613]you have a V8... the IS250 has an anemic V6. 204hp and 185lb ft of torque. it was slow to begin with.[/QUOTE]

Obviously he doesn't care about performance like you do.

I have a four cylinder that Dynos at 143whp. :smiley-rofl:
elpresidenteJuly 11, 2009
#257684
carlos;257613 wrote:you have a V8... the IS250 has an anemic V6. 204hp and 185lb ft of torque. it was slow to begin with.

I do have a 4.0L engine, but it's the inline 6, not the V8. Mine is pure Jaguar, not Ford. But yah..with this car, performance isn't my priority. I have another build for that fix.
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[QUOTE=carlos;257613]you have a V8... the IS250 has an anemic V6. 204hp and 185lb ft of torque. it was slow to begin with.[/QUOTE]
I do have a 4.0L engine, but it's the inline 6, not the V8.  Mine is pure Jaguar, not Ford.  But yah..with this car, performance isn't my priority.  I have another build for that fix.
carlosJuly 11, 2009
#257695
Oh I don't care... I'm just saying for the sake of conversation. No hate here at all.
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Oh I don't care... I'm just saying for the sake of conversation. No hate here at all.
OCKlasseJuly 11, 2009
#257701
elpresidente;257684 wrote:I do have a 4.0L engine, but it's the inline 6, not the V8. Mine is pure Jaguar, not Ford. But yah..with this car, performance isn't my priority. I have another build for that fix.


Damn. 4.0L I6? :runcoold:
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[QUOTE=elpresidente;257684]I do have a 4.0L engine, but it's the inline 6, not the V8.  Mine is pure Jaguar, not Ford.  But yah..with this car, performance isn't my priority.  I have another build for that fix.[/QUOTE]

Damn. 4.0L I6? :runcoold:
el maestroJuly 11, 2009
#257702
I am trying to learn more on Hydros. Is there a good website that is basically a hydros for dummies.

Pics of actual piston/strut? Are there any installation threads anywhere on other cars besides lowriders?
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I am trying to learn more on Hydros.  Is there a good website that is basically a hydros for dummies.

Pics of actual piston/strut?  Are there any installation  threads anywhere on other cars besides lowriders?
OCKlasseJuly 11, 2009
#257705
el maestro;257702 wrote:I am trying to learn more on Hydros. Is there a good website that is basically a hydros for dummies.

Pics of actual piston/strut? Are there any installation threads anywhere on other cars besides lowriders?


Well, you can a learn a little on these two links:

http://www.hydroholics.net/diagrams.html

http://www.hydroholics.net/faq.html

layitlow.com is an excellent hydraulic forum but be forewarned: It is geared towards the lowrider community.

As far as other non-lowriding hydraulic builds, check out some of these:

Lexus build more in depth:

http://www.streetsource.com/forum/topic.aspx?topic_id=111363&Page=1

Sick Armada build:

http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=478480

R129 Mercedes:

http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=472140&hl=

Altima:

http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=470683&hl=

2008 Impala:

http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=446436&st=20

Most recent:

http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=487142&hl=
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[QUOTE=el maestro;257702]I am trying to learn more on Hydros.  Is there a good website that is basically a hydros for dummies.

Pics of actual piston/strut?  Are there any installation  threads anywhere on other cars besides lowriders?[/QUOTE]

Well, you can a learn a little on these two links:

[url]http://www.hydroholics.net/diagrams.html[/url]

[url]http://www.hydroholics.net/faq.html[/url]

layitlow.com is an excellent hydraulic forum but be forewarned: It is geared towards the lowrider community.

As far as other non-lowriding hydraulic builds, check out some of these:

Lexus build more in depth:

[url]http://www.streetsource.com/forum/topic.aspx?topic_id=111363&Page=1[/url]

Sick Armada build:

[url]http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=478480[/url]

R129 Mercedes:

[url]http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=472140&hl=[/url]

Altima:

[url]http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=470683&hl=[/url]

2008 Impala:

[url]http://www.layitlow.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=446436&st=20[/url]

Most recent:

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el maestroJuly 14, 2009
#258219
^very helpful....thanks
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^very helpful....thanks
e30cabrioJuly 20, 2009
#259392
Hi Brandon!

I may be interested in a hydrualic setup installed if your brother can hook it up with a payment program.
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Hi Brandon!

I may be interested in a hydrualic setup installed if your brother can hook it up with a payment program.
trefiveJuly 21, 2009
#259601
Shoot me an email: [email]info@hydroholics.net[/email]
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Shoot me an email: [email]info@hydroholics.net[/email]
SchnitzAugust 11, 2009
#263498
This will definitely be an option later on. I've always liked hydraulics just never thought it was a possibility with a big body car.
Your bro's 'latest' install is niiice. Definitley how I would want it setup = invisible.
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This will definitely be an option later on. I've always liked hydraulics just never thought it was a possibility with a big body car.
Your bro's 'latest' install is niiice. Definitley how I would want it setup = invisible.
g35coutureAugust 11, 2009
#263523
that is a nice setup.. =)
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that is a nice setup.. =)