Thread #19049

Factory hydraulics on my President?

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DoriDexOctober 4, 2009
#274727

Factory hydraulics on my President?

I thought it was after market, but now i found this:

http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r57335169

last pic:

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on the top of the struts, excactly like my President. Looks very factory to me?


then i found this:
http://page19.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x89189074

it says air controller on the unit, but no idea what the advert says lol
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I thought it was after market, but now i found this:

[url]http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r57335169[/url]

last pic:

[IMG]http://img281.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/0/1/6/6/mitsuhiroe500-img600x450-1247309138r0i4ni71549.jpg[/IMG]

on the top of the struts, excactly like my President. Looks very factory to me?


then i found this:
[url]http://page19.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x89189074[/url]

it says air controller on the unit, but no idea what the advert says lol
OCKlasseOctober 4, 2009
#274751
So is it air or hydraulic?

Remember that hydraulic relates to using oil as a function of height adjustment as opposed to a pneumatic suspension which relies solely on "air." Even hydraulic cars use nitrogen-filled accumulators as a means of suspension; all the hydraulic part does is raise or lower the vehicle.

My guess is it's an air-type suspension. The only cars I know to use factory hydraulic suspension are Citroen and Mercedes (although I am sure there are more).
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So is it air or hydraulic? 

Remember that hydraulic relates to using oil as a function of height adjustment as opposed to a pneumatic suspension which relies solely on "air."  Even hydraulic cars use nitrogen-filled accumulators as a means of suspension; all the hydraulic part does is raise or lower the vehicle.

My guess is it's an air-type suspension. The only cars I know to use factory hydraulic suspension are Citroen and Mercedes (although I am sure there are more).
DoriDexOctober 5, 2009
#274924
deffo hydraulic
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deffo hydraulic
eyedeaOctober 5, 2009
#274976
I know a user with twin presidents who has that same controller on his car here in cali. Anyone care to chime in?
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I know a user with twin presidents who has that same  controller on his car here in cali. Anyone care to chime in?
Yokotas13October 5, 2009
#275007
pretty sure its air.
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pretty sure its air.
ni5mo240October 6, 2009
#275055
it's the same system as the g50 q45"a" or "active suspension" and it is hydraulic
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it's the same system as the g50 q45"a" or "active suspension" and it is hydraulic
DominikOctober 6, 2009
#275060
Yeah its hydro, and it makes it a PITA to replace with coilovers. The height controllers on yahoo only give you 4cm or so lowering, and the rest is positive (raised) adjustment...
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Yeah its hydro, and it makes it a PITA to replace with coilovers. The height controllers on yahoo only give you 4cm or so lowering, and the rest is positive (raised) adjustment...
OCKlasseOctober 6, 2009
#275118
Interesting...
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Interesting...
VipDoutOctober 6, 2009
#275128
never knew this , wow
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never knew this , wow
MR.JOctober 6, 2009
#275153
Bippu PxrLex;275128 wrote:never knew this , wow



same here ..
interesting
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[QUOTE=Bippu PxrLex;275128]never knew this , wow[/QUOTE]
 
 
same here .. 
interesting
DoriDexOctober 6, 2009
#275178
so those controllers arent really that usefull? i want to be able to drive it on the lowest it will go.

also, it raises quick, but lowers down terribly slow, as in: takes 5 mins. anyway to make that go quicker?
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so those controllers arent really that usefull? i want to be able to drive it on the lowest it will go.

also, it raises quick, but lowers down terribly slow, as in: takes 5 mins. anyway to make that go quicker?
OCKlasseOctober 6, 2009
#275250
DoriDex;275178 wrote:so those controllers arent really that usefull? i want to be able to drive it on the lowest it will go.

also, it raises quick, but lowers down terribly slow, as in: takes 5 mins. anyway to make that go quicker?


Well, this being a hydraulic setup, it might be possible to manipulate it to your fancy.

If I can get some tech diagrams of the setup, maybe I can see if things can be tweaked with it...
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[QUOTE=DoriDex;275178]so those controllers arent really that usefull? i want to be able to drive it on the lowest it will go.

also, it raises quick, but lowers down terribly slow, as in: takes 5 mins. anyway to make that go quicker?[/QUOTE]

Well, this being a hydraulic setup, it might be possible to manipulate it to your fancy. 

If I can get some tech diagrams of the setup, maybe I can see if things can be tweaked with it...
eyedeaOctober 7, 2009
#275258
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnC-R3U5vO4

Active suspension: I learn something everyday
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[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnC-R3U5vO4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnC-R3U5vO4[/URL]

Active suspension: I learn something everyday
DoriDexOctober 7, 2009
#275371
OCKlasse;275250 wrote:Well, this being a hydraulic setup, it might be possible to manipulate it to your fancy.

If I can get some tech diagrams of the setup, maybe I can see if things can be tweaked with it...


excactly what i thought, there has to be some wires telling the pump to go on or something, im having a look next week. pulling front bumper off again and tracing the pipes etc
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[QUOTE=OCKlasse;275250]Well, this being a hydraulic setup, it might be possible to manipulate it to your fancy. 

If I can get some tech diagrams of the setup, maybe I can see if things can be tweaked with it...[/QUOTE]

excactly what i thought, there has to be some wires telling the pump to go on or something, im having a look next week. pulling front bumper off again and tracing the pipes etc