Thread #19449

Official Cheap Y33 airsuspension (bag on OE shock) with no compressor/tank

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robunicuNovember 10, 2009
#281253

Official Cheap Y33 airsuspension (bag on OE shock) with no compressor/tank

Hey guys, so i have a few 97-01 q45s and like 2 parts cars, and what ive been meaning to do for quite a while is to try to put a bag on stock strut and just run a braided steel line fromt the bag to somewhere in the trunk. Do so to all four corners and have some type of valve at the end of each line, then drop/raise the car from each separate valve from a compressor i have at the shop, the way i would make sure they are all same drop is by checkin the compression in the shock.
what i need now is some more info from all you guys that been working with bags for many years. how would this setup work, how would i fit the bag on the shock? how will the bag sit on the shock?

Any imput would be more then apreciated
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Hey guys, so i have a few 97-01 q45s and like 2 parts cars, and what ive been meaning to do for quite a while is to try to put a bag on stock strut and just run a braided steel line fromt the bag to somewhere in the trunk. Do so to all four corners and have some type of valve at the end of each line, then drop/raise the car from each separate valve from a compressor i have at the shop, the way i would make sure they are all same drop is by checkin the compression in the shock.
what i need now is some more info from all you guys that been working with bags for many years. how would this setup work, how would i fit the bag on the shock? how will the bag sit on the shock?

Any imput would be more then apreciated
MR.JNovember 10, 2009
#281280
get UAS or ksport
done ..
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get UAS or ksport 
done ..
TrboANTsiNovember 10, 2009
#281303
All corners should have their own valve so if its a 2 way valve you need 4 if its a one way valve you need 8 . if you choose to share valves like have 2 fronts share and rears share air would transfer or shift during turns you do not want that. Typically for multiple moves all up,down, left, right the valves are all wired to a box. Damn man this is like basic stuff. Search? I used to measure the height by my ass lots of these guys use digital guages for the corner.
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All corners should have their own valve so if its a 2 way valve you need 4 if its a one way valve you need 8 . if you choose to share valves like have 2 fronts share and rears share air would transfer or shift during turns you do not want that. Typically for multiple moves all up,down, left, right the valves are all wired to a box. Damn man this is like basic stuff. Search? I used to measure the height by my ass lots of these guys use digital guages for the corner.
33flavorsNovember 10, 2009
#281313
its going to ride like shit
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its going to ride like shit
robunicuNovember 10, 2009
#281319
will it really? i was thinking that it would ride rather well. yea i was gonna have the valves all separate for each corner ofcourse i thought of that that,

but not sure how the bag seats on the shock, thats my main concern, what bags would i buy? i really dont care how it would ride as it would be mnore of a test rather then anything, so please yall help me do it and ill post info and ride data hehe;p
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will it really? i was thinking that it would ride rather well. yea i was gonna have the valves all separate for each corner ofcourse i thought of that that, 

but not sure how the bag seats on the shock, thats my main concern, what bags would i buy? i really dont care how it would ride as it would be mnore of a test rather then anything,  so please yall help me do it and ill post info and ride data hehe;p
F.L.S.November 10, 2009
#281340
dude's got like 4+ Q45's sitting around to play with, so why not support him trying to make something his self instead of just saying "get XYZ, done...."?

I'm all for someone trying to MAKE something, but I got no clue about air sus at all, so good luck bro!!
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dude's got like 4+ Q45's sitting around to play with, so why not support him trying to make something his self instead of just saying "get XYZ, done...."?  

I'm all for someone trying to MAKE something, but I got no clue about air sus at all, so good luck bro!!
TrboANTsiNovember 10, 2009
#281341
where in tampa are you im in tampa also i know a good amount at wiring but not welding. i can show you what to buy if i can see things.

Also if your on TR im under the same name there you can pm me as i check that constantly.

http://www.vipstylecars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13647
check this thread for an idea
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where in tampa are you im in tampa also i know a good amount at wiring but not welding. i can show you what to buy if i can see things.

Also if your on TR im under the same name there you can pm me as i check that constantly.

[url]http://www.vipstylecars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13647[/url]
check this thread for an idea
robunicuNovember 10, 2009
#281384
thx F.L.S

as i said i have lots of spare parts and dont give a shit how it comes out if its somewhat decent, if it works and comes out cheap as fuk, wouldnt you guys like to know? now help me out here

from all the forums that ive been browsing around on i have yet to c someone do it to their q, so let make this happen

Also yes im on TR under same user name ... mostly on nissan forum:)
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thx F.L.S
 
as i said i have lots of spare parts and dont give a shit how it comes out if its somewhat decent, if it works and comes out cheap as fuk, wouldnt you guys like to know? now help me out here
 
from all the forums that ive been browsing around on i have yet to c someone do it to their q, so let make this happen
 
Also yes im on TR under same user name ... mostly on nissan forum:)
robunicuNovember 12, 2009
#281791
hmmm so i guess i posted on the wrong forums, figured you guys wouldve known the most about bags and such...
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hmmm so i guess i posted on the wrong forums, figured you guys wouldve known the most about bags and such...
MR.JNovember 12, 2009
#281803
^ really?
ask yokota on here he will tell you the same thing.
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^ really?
ask yokota on here he will tell you the same thing.
33flavorsNovember 12, 2009
#281886
over stocks it will ride like ass, you need to get at least a decent set of coils - id like to get some q45 parts off your hands lol
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over stocks it will ride like ass, you need to get at least a decent set of coils - id like to get some q45 parts off your hands lol
burgyNovember 12, 2009
#281897
robunicu---I will take a look at what you have going on when we get together. J is right though, the stock strut is not really set up to handle air, w/o the spring the forces of the car will be severe for the stock struts....it can work but it will ride harsh.

While there are some issues with what you are attempting, I do appreciate the DIY enthusiasm.

I need to come get some parts from you ASAP though! :runcoold:
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robunicu---I will take a look at what you have going on when we get together. J is right though, the stock strut is not really set up to handle air, w/o the spring the forces of the car will be severe for the stock struts....it can work but it will ride harsh.
 
While there are some issues with what you are attempting, I do appreciate the DIY enthusiasm. 
 
I need to come get some parts from you ASAP though! :runcoold:
Yokotas13November 12, 2009
#281921
not gonna work
need all hte air lines nad tank for modulation of hte air bags
without it its gonna be a bounce fest
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not gonna work
need all hte air lines nad tank for modulation of hte air bags
without it its gonna be a bounce fest
robunicuNovember 12, 2009
#281945
ooo i got you guys, i guess that wount work ;( bummer,

for right now then ill have to just get some springs ;( really was hoping this would work as im not baller enough to get bags and only reason im dd the q is because im tyred of riding on coilovers, curent s14.5 has absolutely no rubber under the car, its all metal and stiff as a mofo, i need the q to ride as comfy as the int is;)

thx anyways guys

and yes burgy come by whenever bro
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ooo i got you guys, i guess that wount work ;( bummer, 
 
for right now then ill have to just get some springs ;( really was hoping this would work as im not baller enough to get bags and only reason im dd the q is because im tyred of riding on coilovers, curent s14.5 has absolutely no rubber under the car, its all metal and stiff as a mofo, i need the q to ride as comfy as the int is;)
 
thx anyways guys
 
and yes burgy come by whenever bro
MR.JNovember 12, 2009
#281946
It would cool if that workd thou.

better then spending 5k on bags and coils lol
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It would cool if that workd thou. 
 
better then spending 5k on bags and coils lol
burgyNovember 13, 2009
#281973
You can run S14 lowering springs for awhile....it WILL blow the stock struts but they fit???
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You can run S14 lowering springs for awhile....it WILL blow the stock struts but they fit???
EASTSiDE 2 WESTSiDENovember 13, 2009
#282080
S13 Coils + Bags or Get some y33 Used Coils and add bags. But either way dont really expect to go low and have a great ride remember the car is heavy as hell and being that low you wont have much travel on the strut either way you give up the comfy ride for the great look.
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S13 Coils + Bags or Get some y33 Used Coils and add bags. But either way dont really expect to go low and have a great ride remember the car is heavy as hell and being that low you wont have much travel on the strut either way you give up the comfy ride for the great look.
robunicuNovember 13, 2009
#282087
coils are cool and all ive had them on almost every car and trust me i have had well over 30 cars from lil civics to lexuses and im just tired of bouncing around, specialy w my last 3 cars i think ive developed some back problems... so no coilovers for the q,

if bags on stockers were decent i wouldve went and done it on a xtra set of shocks i got and whenever i get tired of it just swap out back to stock shocks,

buttt its good i asked here first and didnt waste time and money, will just go with springs and call it a day as a stock drop car just doesnt do it for me after dragin my ass on slamed cars for the past 5 years
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coils are cool and all ive had them on almost every car and trust me i have had well over 30 cars from lil civics to lexuses and im just tired of bouncing around, specialy w my last 3 cars i think ive developed some back problems... so no coilovers for the q, 

if bags on stockers were decent i wouldve went and done it on a xtra set of shocks i got and whenever i get tired of it just swap out back to stock shocks, 

buttt its good i asked here first and didnt waste time and money, will just go with springs and call it a day as a stock drop car just doesnt do it for me after dragin my ass on slamed cars for the past 5 years
burgyNovember 13, 2009
#282091
you gonna be around Sunday afternoon??
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you gonna be around Sunday afternoon??
robunicuNovember 13, 2009
#282170
prolly not man, sat during the day would work lots better for me... let me know
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prolly not man, sat during the day would work lots better for me... let me know
burgyNovember 14, 2009
#282222
Dam, I have appointments tomorrow??? I'll be in touch.
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Dam, I have appointments tomorrow???  I'll be in touch.
AcUrALiTyNovember 15, 2009
#282528
if you bag it on stocks it aint gonna slam. i made the mistake of doing that the first time
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if you bag it on stocks it aint gonna slam. i made the mistake of doing that the first time
berlinas2k2November 21, 2009
#283644
AcUrALiTy;282528 wrote:if you bag it on stocks it aint gonna slam. i made the mistake of doing that the first time


+1
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[QUOTE=AcUrALiTy;282528]if you bag it on stocks it aint gonna slam. i made the mistake of doing that the first time[/QUOTE]

+1
beachbum-1December 30, 2009
#291334
so even if i get a uas kit and throw them over my jic vip tar coilovers that are brand new less then 2500 miles on them..my ride with still be like shit and bouncy as hell??? will it ride better "less bouncy"then the coilovers that i have now without bags do?
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so even if i get a uas kit and throw them over my jic vip tar coilovers that are brand new less then 2500 miles on them..my ride with still be like shit and bouncy as hell??? will it ride better "less bouncy"then the coilovers that i have now without bags do?
EASTSiDE 2 WESTSiDEJanuary 23, 2010
#296024
I rode in Air and Coils and both Ride like shit when low lol Well Bouncy and Stiff on Coils is Bouncy and Floating on Air. I think the Coil+bag combo actually lets you adjust the stiffness but either way your gonna be bouncy
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I rode in Air and Coils and both Ride like shit when low lol Well Bouncy and Stiff on Coils is Bouncy and Floating on Air. I think the Coil+bag combo actually lets you adjust the stiffness but either way your gonna be bouncy