UCF10 Engine/Bay Project Build

what started as a dead starter is going to end up being a full project. for those that don't know replacing the starter requires removing the entire intake manifold on the 1uz. only makes sense to change all gaskets, ignition components, and various misc. parts while you're in there. another problem i ran into was a deteriorating wiring harness. i could have plugged it all up and rigged it to work but that's not my style. that brings us to here:
 
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as of this picture (slightly outdated) the engine has been broken down as far as it needed to be, cleaned, had the caps and rotors replaced, and had the cruise control removed. it's been sitting like that for lack of motivation more than anything, but i finally found something to get excited about. here's the plan:
 
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front (red): all intake components will remain out (short ram intake of some sort will be used). i am going to convert to a radiator mounted electic fan (mechanical fan removed in pic). i'm 90% on removing the abs unit from the front passenger side of the bay, but the final decision will depend on what solution i come up with for the ac lines that run through the same area as the brakes lines do anyway.
 
passenger side (yellow): the cruise control has already been deleted. the misc. relays and whatnot to the front of the wheel well will be relocated to the outside of the rail. holes will be welded, sheetmetal smoothed.
 
driver side (green): battery will be relocated. the oevrflow tank will most likely be replaced with something easier to hide. not 100% sure about moving the fuse block but i'm gonna check it out and see how much confidence i can conjure up. some rust to clean up where the battery tray was.
 
engine (blue): i have decided to go for the 4.7l tundra block. 1uz rotating assembly w/ custom forged pistons in the 2uz block original 4.0 top end. why not? of course some fancy finishing is a must. egr system will be deleted to clean it up.
 
i expect this to take a while but check back for updates every now and then.

Interesting! :biggthumpup:

glad to see you keeping it! very excited for this build, tuned in fosho.

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Doing a "wire tuck" but more of a "component tuck"? Getting stuff out of the way and cleaned up? Good luck!

wire tuck & turbo.
:shrug:

[QUOTE=MR.J;342159]wire tuck & turbo.
:shrug:[/QUOTE]

+1

cant wait to see the results gl with the build

just put in a GM LS series motor and be done way cheaper

screw turbo, richmond adapter and a kenne bell charger.

[QUOTE=gh0st;342072]Doing a "wire tuck" but more of a "component tuck"? Getting stuff out of the way and cleaned up? Good luck![/QUOTE]
 
that's pretty much what a wire tuck is but i guess. :shrug:
 
[QUOTE=MR.J;342159]... & turbo.[/QUOTE]
 
[QUOTE=BigMone;342208]just put in a GM LS series motor and be done way cheaper[/QUOTE]
 
[QUOTE=LiCelsior;342212]screw turbo, richmond adapter and a kenne bell charger.[/QUOTE]
 
i think y'all have the wrong idea. the tundra block is just a "might as well while i'm in here" kind of thing and the forged pistons are to make it work. really couldn't care much less about the power.
 
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day one.

Sick plans
Hopefully they all come through, you go through ideas like I go through tires

I was also thinking in the future about doing a Tundra block but I have read somewhere on the Lextreme website that it cannot be done using the 1UZ heads.

This will be a very interesting and looking forward for the completion.

[QUOTE=Garage7RP;342542]I was also thinking in the future about doing a Tundra block but I have read somewhere on the Lextreme website that it cannot be done using the 1UZ heads.[/QUOTE]
 
the tundra block works with the 1uz heads, all that it requires is custom pistons. i think there may be more issues on the vvti top ends but i'm not 100% since it doesn't apply to me.
 
today:
 
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off to a good start.  make sure you cover that glass good when you start to weld or you'll have some nasty splatter pits on the glass...

word

already pitted it when i was grinding the uca clearance hole welds. i had it covered at first but got lazy on the second side. need new glass.
 
haven't got a chance to work on this anymore. hopefully later this week/next week.

[QUOTE=BLKonBLK98;344082]need new glass.
[/QUOTE]

The ole' heatgun and glass of ice water worked for me :biggthumpup::biggthumpup:

This is gonna tie into your plans perfectly, can't wait for the BLING.  I still think you should convert to 5 speed... "Might as well while your in there"

been a while, but i finally got back onto this today. as of right now this will remain a 4 liter build, but the engine is still coming out and the bay shaved/painted. all accesories are being removed.
 
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all the research i have done has been on hondas. apparently they just have harnesses runing up each rail. the ls harness actually makes a complete loop around the bay. i'm hoping it will be simplified once the unnecessary stuff is removed.

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i'd be lying if i said it wasn't getting a little imntimidating, but for now i'm just focusing on getting everything out. if i thought too much about putting it back in i'd probably quit.

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[QUOTE=BLKonBLK98;350869] all the research i have done has been on hondas. apparently they just have harnesses runing up each rail. the ls harness actually makes a complete loop around the bay. i'm hoping it will be simplified once the unnecessary stuff is removed. [/QUOTE]
 
Check out the VW guys those dudes are kings at wiretucks.

VW guys... Does not compare to the amount of accessories and electrical/electronics the LS have.

[QUOTE=Garage7RP;350922]VW guys... Does not compare to the amount of accessories and electrical/electronics the LS have.[/QUOTE]
 
that is true also lol.
Wiretuck can still be done on the LS you jsut have to relocate alot of stuff but the question is were? With out gettin water or other harmful stuff to ruin sensors...

the motor itself is pretty well covered so there's not much to worry about there after the egr and cruise control delete.
 
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most of the action is the stuff on the wheel wells.

some good progress

lookin' goooood

4.7 build  is on. just paid for forged pistons and 2uzfe block (tanked, decked, bored, and honed).

ballllllllin!

Nice! It always starts out sensible and never stays there.

[QUOTE=Schnitz;353203]Nice! It always starts out sensible and never stays there.[/QUOTE]
QFT

Lookin good so far. That's a lot of stuff to move.

Do you have any info on a 5.7 block if same modifications applies?

[QUOTE=BLKonBLK98;353175]4.7 build  is on. just paid for forged pistons and 2uzfe block (tanked, decked, bored, and honed).[/QUOTE]

nice cant wait to see more

[QUOTE=Garage7RP;355833]Do you have any info on a 5.7 block if same modifications applies?[/QUOTE]
 going big huh? i've only seen it mentioned a couple times but no, it would be a much more involved swap. there is something like a 5.2 stroker though.

daaaamn a nice job you got going here!

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got a couple more days work in since the last update. it's getting to the point where i can visualize the oucome. lot of stuff left to buy/do though.

where are you putting the battery? in the trunk or outside the car?

trunk.

You planning on tubbing the front wheel wells like the 240SX guys do? I think welding and bodyworking all the holes would take much longer than cutting and adding some trailer fenders. Plus, you could add more clearance if need be. 

Looks good! I'm stoked to see the outcome!

i considered it but i don't need the clearance. i don't think tubs look as nice.

Depends on the tub :) everyone on drift cars do it ghetto stylin.

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my maxima was tubbed. looked pretty good but when i was researching wire tucks i prefer the smotthed out original bays to the super geometrical flat plated bays.

this is what i was talking about :)
[img]http://www.justracing.com/galleries/albums/userpics/10042/P1200014.JPG[/img]

^thats engine bay is pretty sick right there.

[QUOTE=Kouki Monster;359146]this is what i was talking about :)
[IMG]*pic*[/IMG][/QUOTE]

i'm not understanding your post. please elaborate.

I think he is saying that he is not gonna smooth it out. Just hide the components/wires.

the wheel tub, looks stock cause of regulation. but it is far from stock, its a custom tub design. Not all wheel tubs look ghetto as shit, perfect for a vip car cause of the attention to detail. Those cars are so insane on custom work cause of regulation. They were so strict about it that the fabricators and the team made everything look as stock as possible but still move weight around for a balanced car. The Stratus Super Touring Car, had its exhaust tunnel moved just a little bit to the passenger side for better balance of weight. and did it making it look stock so it passes inspection.

Cliff notes
to sum it up, tub it, do it right, looks bad ass, cause no one can tell

gotcha. i wasn't sure if that tub was stock or not. it does look very good... but if a good looking tub looks stock, and i don't need the clearance; what's the point?

to get rid of the bumps and humps that use to hold things. I like a shaved engine bay, but I guess I am picky about it. I like the covering of holes and such, but making it rounded like there wasnt a indentation that gives away that something was there

i'm going to smooth it all out.

How come you haven't pulled the motor yet? Messing with the wire tuck or just lazy?

he doesnt know how to pull it out physically..the 1uz is pretty tricky to remove with the trans on. def need 2 people helping though to maneuver around the firewall and subframe.

[QUOTE=Caoboy;359461]How come you haven't pulled the motor yet? Messing with the wire tuck or just lazy?[/QUOTE]
 
couple reasons; my engine hoist is in my storage unit at the very back, the engine stand is back there also with a motor on it, i'm going to need help to pull the motor, and i really don't need the clutter just sitting around until the new block shows up.

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on fire lol

[QUOTE=OG;359511]i really don't need the clutter just sitting around until [B]the new block shows up[/B].[/QUOTE]

now that we dun got that shiet out the way...:biggthumpup:

looking good BoB. cant wait to see the ball rolling and picking up snow.

waiting on the pistons and mounts (this week), rods (next month) and bolts/bearings (???). i want to have a complete short block built before i pull the motor and swap the heads. also have to make a decision on transmission. w58 is looking like a winner since i won't need to hold a ton of power and it's relatively cheap.

hurry up!

sure thing! my paypal is [EMAIL="ineed@money.com"]ineed@money.com[/EMAIL].

Over heating

gonna go ahead and ride this out in my other build thread. seemed like a good idea at the time...
 
[URL]http://www.vipstylecars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19394[/URL]

lol

Nice work so far I was contemplating doing the same to my ls but with the 430 block instead. Ill be looking forward to this as it progresses.

That's super sick.  Can't wait for the finished product.

Any updates on this? Want to do a wire tuck on my next ls..... Shit looks good

nah. i ended up scrapping the project and parting out the car a while back. i still have most of it and may do something with it down the line though.

[QUOTE=OG;472626]nah. i ended up scrapping the project and parting out the car a while back. i still have most of it and may do something with it down the line though.[/QUOTE]

Damn that sucks.....wanna do it,just don't know how much u can get away with

well  my plan was to go very  extreme, in which case i think it would have been nearly complete, but for a mormal tuck i wouldn't expect you could do much.